WWI Digest 3793 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Spad Afficionados-Wings by "Michael Kendix" 2) Re: Belgian Nieuport by "Muth and Zulick" 3) RE: Karen's Oeffag by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 4) RE: Spad Afficionados-Wings by "Tom Sollers" 5) Re: Airbrush by "Muth and Zulick" 6) Re: Belgian Nieuport by "Michael Kendix" 7) Subject: Merlin kit by "Robert Norgren" 8) Re: Subject: Merlin kit by "Steven Perry" 9) RE: You Know You're a Modeler When... by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 10) Re: Subject: Merlin kit by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 11) BLUE MAX WEB SITE by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 12) Re: Karen's Oeffag by Mark Miller 13) RE: Rigging by Ray Boorman 14) Re: Karen's Oeffag by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 15) Dame Karen's Polish Alb by "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" 16) Roland D.II by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 17) RE: Roland D.II by "dfernet0" 18) Re: Belgian Nieuport by "stefenk" 19) email woes by "Bob Pearson" 20) Re: Belgian Nieuport by "Muth and Zulick" 21) RE:UK Nats by "Nigel Rayner" 22) off list Re: UK Nats by "Michael Kendix" 23) RE:UK Nats by "Michael Kendix" 24) RE: New Stuff by "Nigel Rayner" 25) RE: The Unpublished advantages of brushes.. by "Nigel Rayner" 26) RE: The Unpublished advantages of brushes.. by "Michael Kendix" 27) Belgian Nieuport 11's by Todd Hayes 28) Name of thingy by Sanjeev Hirve 29) wanted suggestions for reading by Sanjeev Hirve 30) Re: MPM by "Matt Bittner" 31) Re: Another update by "Matt Bittner" 32) Re: MPM by Todd Hayes 33) Tela y Madera by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 34) RE: Tela y Madera y coraje by =?iso-8859-2?B?TWFydO1uIEjpY3RvciBBRkZMSVRUTyBFQ0hBR/xF?= 35) Triplane by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:25:29 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Spad Afficionados-Wings Message-ID: >From: Crawford Neil > >Yes, you're right about the Guynemer Spad, I even thought of >that one, when I wrote before, and it got me worried. I think >the best photos are when you get them with a low sun shining >across the wings, that's the way I like to see a model. That'll be hard to do inside the Paris Museum:). >The Paris Spad doesn't look like this for some reason, I wish I >could see it for real. True. >And I think your method probably would work well, after all >Alberto does it this way. I shouldn't have been so dogmatic. Not at all. Actually, I think Alberto uses stretched sprue - don't get me started:). Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:32:36 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Belgian Nieuport Message-ID: <000601c15259$30e27900$0100005a@ptd.net> Thnals to Tood & Matt. I tried applying CDL from MisterKit last night and suffered major disaster. The EZ masks didn't work too well and there was a ton of bleed under. So, to try and remove everything and start from scratch, I used some left over lacquer remover. AARRRGH! Paint came right off, but the plastic sort of melted. Am now awaitng a new N.11, so I'll have even more time to wonder about this. I'm strating to lean toward blue, since I remember from somewhere the Chocteau Johnson's Nieuport was reputed to have blue underneath and blue outline. Thanks again. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday,October 10,2001 6:19 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Belgian Nieuport > Concerning educated opinions/guesses, the Americals > "other rib tapes" sheets (#'s 57, 58) give the tape > color as black. > > Todd > > > > --- Matt Bittner wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:45:25 -0400 (EDT), Muth and > > Zulick wrote: > > > > > I have finished doing the 2 color camo on this > > bird and am getting ready > > > to apply the Eduard mask to get (hopefully) that > > nice outline affect. I was > > > going to go with CDL, same as the underneath > > color. However, when I look at > > > the picture in the "In Action" book, the > > tapes/outline look so much like > > > silver. I know, b&w photo and I'm not a member of > > the color police, but I'm > > > wondering if the underneath could have been CDL > > with the outline silver? A > > > lot of extra work in the field, I suspect. Any > > ideas? > > > > To be truthful, I really don't know. Alberto says > > that Italian early > > Nieuports were finished with brown edges. French > > could have black, > > blue, brown, or ? It's not really known what color > > was used, but > > educated guesses have been made. Heck, maybe even > > CDL is appropriate. > > :-) > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:31:46 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Karen's Oeffag Message-ID: I have just got more time to enjoy the list, and what can I see? Good Lord, Karen. Why do you do it? How should I apporach my Albatros kits having seen that beauty... Tomasz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 miliardy stron pod jednym adresem. A to dopiero poczatek... Nowe Centrum Wyszukiwania >> http://szukaj.interia.pl/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:39:11 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Spad Afficionados-Wings Message-ID: <200110111340.f9BDeNT08317@mail.bcpl.net> >What if I really lay that acrylic paint on thick to the decal paper? Or, maybe build >it up using Mr. Surfacer 500? I've been experimenting with this and a few other techniques. To me the idea of thickly painted decal film has a lot of merit. But may not be the whole answer. I've also been experimenting with masking ribs and painting directly on the wing surface. This allows a good bond to the wing surface without fear of separation. The rib detail can then be subtly sanded at the leading and trailing edges to blend into the edge. I've also been experimenting with a ruling pen and thickened paint to lay down a bead of paint in a line using a flexible straight edge with a recessed lip. I haven't tried it yet, but it also seems that additional blending could be achieved by successive coats of paint or the application of decal film over the entire surface. Just some ideas. Anyone know how the rib effect on Blue Max models is done? Or is it a trade secret! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:43:56 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Airbrush Message-ID: <007701c1525a$c6692b80$0100005a@ptd.net> Thanks to Lee & Bob for the airbrush answers. I think I'll try using the #1 tip a little while and see how it works. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:50:16 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Belgian Nieuport Message-ID: >From: "Muth and Zulick" >Thnals to Tood & Matt. I tried applying CDL from MisterKit last night >and >suffered major disaster. The EZ masks didn't work too well and >there was a >ton of bleed under. So, to try and remove everything and >start from >scratch, I used some left over lacquer remover. AARRRGH! >Paint came right >off, but the plastic sort of melted. Mike: Prior to masking, I cover everything in a coat of Future, which provides a barrier. If the second colour bleeds a little under the mask, you can lift it off with Windex or alcohol, provided you're using acrylics (Mister Kit only makes acrylics right?). If you really want to get to the bottom of things, don't mess around with lacquer remover but go straight to Pro-Weld and the kit reverts to its most fundamental form. Pro-Weld also removes decals like you wouldn't believe, and then proceeds to melt the plastic underneath that and then the table under that! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:53:30 -0400 From: "Robert Norgren" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: plesha3@home.com Subject: Subject: Merlin kit Message-ID: Tom, you are much, much better off getting the Eduard Walfisch (or even my own vacform). The Merlin kit is crappy. Karaya has the Eduard kit for only $13. Karaya Eduard page is at: http://www.karaya.ceti.pl/program/shopdata.php3?q=EDU&c=c5&x=showlist Bob Norgren Sierra Scale Models >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:25:07 -0400 >From: "Tom Plesha" >To: >Subject: Merlin kit >Message-ID: <000901c151eb$2ed722a0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> >Hi All- >Anyone have any comments on on the 1/48 Merlin Roland C2 Kit, >quality, >accuracy, etc. I'm watching it on e-bay. >Later >Tom S.E.MI. Bob Norgren Sierra Scale Models _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:13:21 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Subject: Merlin kit Message-ID: <001901c1525e$e2e8de00$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > Tom, you are much, much better off getting the Eduard Walfisch (or even my > own vacform). The Merlin kit is crappy. Karaya has the Eduard kit for only > $13. Karaya Eduard page is at: > > http://www.karaya.ceti.pl/program/shopdata.php3?q=EDU&c=c5&x=showlist > > Bob Norgren > Sierra Scale Models Nothin shabby about your Walfisch Bob. I got one in a trade recently and I'm looking forward to filling that interior. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:45:20 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: You Know You're a Modeler When... Message-ID: <3BC5A270.4BB22111@tac.com.au> You don't plan a holiday without working out how many listees (of the many lists you are on) you can feasibly visit while there. A big cheerio to Len, Andy and Vanessa, Steve and Janet who helped make our trip so much fun. Mistress Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:25:01 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject: Merlin kit Message-ID: >Tom, you are much, much better off getting the Eduard Walfisch (or even my >own vacform). The Merlin kit is crappy. Karaya has the Eduard kit for only >$13. Karaya Eduard page is at: > >http://www.karaya.ceti.pl/program/shopdata.php3?q=EDU&c=c5&x=showlist > >Bob Norgren >Sierra Scale Models Bob, you have such a way with words, but could you tell us how you really feel about the Merlin kit. I agree, I have only seen one Merlin kit that would be easier to build than starting with a large tree and a chain saw to get to the basic shape, then scaling back to power tools, then hand tools and finally carving knives. At that point you would have a Merlin. From that point on, it is basic scratch building. The only reason I can think of to buy a Merlin kit would be to have a kit that can't be built without a tremendous amount of work or to have something to put on E-Bay and hope a collector and not a builder to go for it (when in need of a large amount of cash) JP ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:35:24 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: BLUE MAX WEB SITE Message-ID: Has anyone noticed that the BM site has moved to http://www.e-pocketwatches.com/ ? It's much better too. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: 11 Oct 2001 07:43:14 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Karen's Oeffag Message-ID: <20011011144314.16851.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Thu, 11 October 2001, "Grzegorz Mazurowski" wrote: > > Karen! > You painted it by hand? You are insane! > Excellent model! Karen No way they REALY painted wings like that. Looks like a shirt my mother-in-law bought me which I promptly threw out :-) very cool model mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:57:20 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: RE: Rigging Message-ID: <20011011150259.HRDT26571.priv-edtnes04-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Gasterix, They used RAF wire. This is a streamlined wire so in model form it might look flat. They used these wires from 1915 or so onwards. Ray On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:39:28 -0400 (EDT), Gaston Graf wrote: >A dumb Q from a badly informed: Did the Brits use flat size wires on >their >kites? I wonder, now that I read this. > >Gasterix ;o) > >> >> Orvis have another goodie that is perfect for rigging: a fishing >> line called >> tinsel wich is flat "tape" and can be used as RAF wires for the >>british >> subjects. It comes in shiny silver, gold or transparent. >> D. >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:12:43 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Karen's Oeffag Message-ID: <001501c15267$2e996b00$0200a8c0@x.pl> > No way they REALY painted wings like that. They don't! It was printed fabric, like German lozenge. G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:27:17 -0500 From: "ZELNICK, KENNETH T" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Dame Karen's Polish Alb Message-ID: <15888960D28CD211AD1900105A24907803EC947B@ano-exs02.ano.entergy.com> Karen, I've been working on a Glencoe A-H Alb myself, but after seeing yours, I think I'll just take up knitting. Great work! Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:17:41 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: Roland D.II Message-ID: <018001c15196$659e4520$0200a8c0@x.pl> Who knows any Roland D.II model in 1/72? I've seen Pegasus on their web-page, is it good? And vacus? Rosemont made it, but is it still in production? Maybe someone has it for sale? Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:08:06 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Roland D.II Message-ID: <000501c1526e$e9df72e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Grzes The Pegasus is nice, altough it needs some reworking to be a contest winner. Check Matt's model at the WW1 website. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: [WWI] Roland D.II > Who knows any Roland D.II model in 1/72? > I've seen Pegasus on their web-page, is it good? > And vacus? Rosemont made it, but is it still in production? > Maybe someone has it for sale? > Grzegorz > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:36:34 -0400 From: "stefenk" To: "WWI Model List" Subject: Re: Belgian Nieuport Message-ID: <002d01c15272$e63b9b60$ed41f6d1@stefenk> On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:45:25 -0400 (EDT), Muth and Zulick wrote: > I have finished doing the 2 color camo on this bird and am getting ready > to apply the Eduard mask to get (hopefully) that nice outline affect. I was > going to go with CDL, same as the underneath color. However, when I look at > the picture in the "In Action" book, the tapes/outline look so much like > silver. I know, b&w photo and I'm not a member of the color police, but I'm > wondering if the underneath could have been CDL with the outline silver? A > lot of extra work in the field, I suspect. Any ideas? Assuming the reference is to the Bebe, here's my 2 cents worth using Windsock 5/3 1989 and SM (81?) as sources. 1. (a) French CDL (yellow?)-finished machines, black tapes, in analogy with antebellum ornamentation practice of both Nieuport itself and Morane. The MAE machine is so displayed. Practice common to machines supplied to Belgium. (b) British CDL (yellow?)-finished machines, (roundel?) blue tapes, at least on some machines. 2. Camouflaged machines. (a) At least some with CDL (?) undersurfaces, camouflage returned to undersurface or black tapes. (b) If light upper outline, aluminum or blue (azure/sky or roundel). Aluminum may generally be lighter than blue, but lighting may obscure this difference. It may be possible to compare the appearance of the national blue with the outline value to arrive at an educated guess about which is correct. Regards, Stefen PS. While on the subject of Bebe's, is there an aluminum side panel (in analogy with the Ni 17) from the cowl ring to the a panel line variously seen in front or at the read of the cockpit, the surface of whicih would be visible in the cockpit interior? ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:19:24 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list , CCI Subject: email woes Message-ID: <3BC49E6800018955@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Hi all, My ISP would appear to have had some prolems overnight and it looks like they dumped any email received in the last 8 hours, so if anyone has sent me email direct in that time, please resend it Regards, Bob Pearson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:11:07 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Belgian Nieuport Message-ID: <002e01c15280$19ba0f00$0100005a@ptd.net> Stefan & Mike Thanks for the info. The more I think about it, the more the Bebe will be in light blue underneath and wing outlines. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:32:25 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE:UK Nats Message-ID: <000001c15283$131940a0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Michael Kendix wrote: >Regardless of what folks whose opinions I respect have said (Len Smith for >one), I would still like to go to the Nationals. I hear Delta is doing $234 >return to London!! My wife would kill me. Michael, come over, you'll love it. And if you're wife kills you, at least you'd die happy..... Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:45:05 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: off list Re: UK Nats Message-ID: Nigel: Ah yes, if only:). I'm too young to die... yet! I was allowed to go off on my own to the U.S. Nationals in Chicago and leave my wife to look after our 4 and 7 year old. It's possible I will make the journey during May or June of next year when my sister gets married. We'll stay with her - she lives in the Ilford area. I have returned to London many times since I left there forever at the age of 24 in 1982. Michael >From: "Nigel Rayner" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] RE:UK Nats >Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:28:51 -0400 (EDT) > >Michael Kendix wrote: > >Regardless of what folks whose opinions I respect have said (Len Smith >for > >one), I would still like to go to the Nationals. I hear Delta is doing >$234 > >return to London!! My wife would kill me. > >Michael, come over, you'll love it. And if you're wife kills you, at least >you'd die happy..... > >Cheers, > >Nigel R > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:46:11 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE:UK Nats Message-ID: Sorry, that was really off topic and meant for Nigel. Apologies for the interuption. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:13:10 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: New Stuff Message-ID: <000201c15288$c46ea520$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Karen, your Polish planes are superb. And as for that hand-painted sworl fabric, it's almost unbelievable. Fantastic work. How long did it take? Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:13:09 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: The Unpublished advantages of brushes.. Message-ID: <000101c15288$c3ae6260$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Len wrote: >Unpublished advantage of real >brushes--- ever tried chewing the end of an airbrush? And how about getting those stubborn bits of wax out of your ears? Ever tried that with a Badger Crescendo (which sounds like some form of unnatural act to me....)? Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:14:59 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: The Unpublished advantages of brushes.. Message-ID: >From: "Nigel Rayner" >And how about getting those stubborn bits of wax out of your ears? Ever >tried that with a Badger Crescendo (which sounds like some form of > >unnatural act to me....)? There's an idea! Just turn the pressure to about 10 lbs/sq" and squirt that crud right out of there! I mean, the quack uses a water syringe, right? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:34:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Belgian Nieuport 11's Message-ID: <20011011203420.38475.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> FYI, Blue Rider does decals for 3 Belgian Nieuports in 1:48. Two are 11's and one is a 16. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:13:02 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: Name of thingy Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C74F@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Hi list, When aircraft rigging wires cross in an X, they are sometimes connected together by some sort of fastener. Example is a tear-drop shaped object that connects the undercarriage cross bracing wires of the Sopwith Baby. What is this object called? thanks SSH PS: sorry, the only cookies I know are the browser kind ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:18:39 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: wanted suggestions for reading Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C750@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Hi list, I have been reading a book by Martin Caidin about the (ot) "P-** L********, F**ked-tail devil". Are there books of similar nature on WW-I aircraft, books that include history, technical description and narratives of its pilots. My reading on WWI aircraft has been limited to 2-3 books so far. The local library does not carry a big selection. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks SSH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:52:41 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: MPM Message-ID: <200110112151.OAA04965@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:10:30 -0400 (EDT), Witold Kozakiewicz wrote: > So most probably Salmson, Bre.14 would be designed by Azur and first > released under their label. Maybe Azur would produce Bre.14A2 and MPM > Bre.14B2, wouldn't it be nice? We can only dream... :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:55:31 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Another update Message-ID: <200110112153.OAA19333@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:51:57 -0400 (EDT), Allan Wright wrote: > Thanks Matt, It seems you're working harder than I am lately at the > web site. My pleasure! Anything to help the cause of WW1 modeling...(there, I was convincing, wasn't I? ;-). > People, you may also send images to me if you like. There may come a time in the very near future everyone will have to do that for the time being. More on that later... Matt Bittner WW1 Site Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: MPM Message-ID: <20011011222105.72241.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> I think Czech Master's Kits do a lot of the masters for MPM. Look at www.modelimex.cz under CMK, Czech Master's Kits. There's about a billion kits listed, many of which are recognizable as MPM, Azur, and other MPM affiliates in scales from 1:16 to 1/72. Modelimex is the parent company of Alliance Models and a major distributor. MPM is also the distributor for CMK. Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:10:30 -0400 (EDT), Witold > Kozakiewicz wrote: > > > So most probably Salmson, Bre.14 would be designed > by Azur and first > > released under their label. Maybe Azur would > produce Bre.14A2 and MPM > > Bre.14B2, wouldn't it be nice? > > We can only dream... :-) > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:22:16 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" , Subject: Tela y Madera Message-ID: <014e01c152a3$30304060$0200a8c0@x.pl> Martin! It is one of the best monographies I've ever seen! I have almost all now, and I'm very happy! Many thanks! It inspired me to convert old good Airfix Pup into Tripe! May I advertise it on List? Greetings! Gregorio _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:58:26 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-2?B?TWFydO1uIEjpY3RvciBBRkZMSVRUTyBFQ0hBR/xF?= To: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" , "wwi lista" Subject: RE: Tela y Madera y coraje Message-ID: <00f001c15243$b1b992e0$b70de818@fibertel.com.ar> Of Course!!!!!!!!!!! Me honor Por supuesto me honras con ello.!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Grzegorz Mazurowski To: wwi lista ; Martin Afflitto Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:22 PM Subject: Tela y Madera > Martin! > It is one of the best monographies I've ever seen! > I have almost all now, and I'm very happy! > Many thanks! > It inspired me to convert old good Airfix Pup into Tripe! > May I advertise it on List? > Greetings! > Gregorio > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 01:18:52 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: Triplane Message-ID: <015c01c152ab$1839a200$0200a8c0@x.pl> Martin, that Diego's friend from Argentina, send me his virtual monography of Sopwith Triplane - EXCELLENT work, great pictures, perfect drawings - ask him for it immediately! Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3793 **********************