WWI Digest 3760 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker D.VII Accessories by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 2) Re: Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker D.VII Accessories by Todd Hayes 3) Re: Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker D.VII Accessories by ERIC HIGHT 4) Re: L.M.G.08 question by ERIC HIGHT 5) RE: About my new toys by "Martin Afflitto" 6) Re: Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker D.VII Accessories by Russell W Niles 7) Re: Pyro Avro Tripe by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 8) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "Michael Kendix" 9) eBay alert, rare book by Charles Hart 10) Re: Cooo-eee...again by Shane Weier 11) RE: MisterKit paints by "Nigel Rayner" 12) RE: Figures by "Nigel Rayner" 13) Re: Cooo-eee...again by "Ross Moorhouse" 14) Re: Cooo-eee...again by "Karen & Keith Fainges" 15) RE: Figures by "Karen & Keith Fainges" 16) New Windsocks by "Sandy Adam" 17) Change of address by "Pedro Soares" 18) nice photos by "Pedro Soares" 19) Nie11 by "Liefferinckx Frederic" 20) sadness by "Liefferinckx Frederic" 21) Re: L.M.G.08 question by "Gaston Graf" 22) That turquoise return on Dr.I's: Call for speculations by "stefenk" 23) Re: Cooo-eee...again by Shane Weier 24) Re: New Windsocks by "Michael Kendix" 25) Re: Nie11 by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 26) RE: That turquoise return on Dr.I's: Call for speculations by "Martin Afflitto" 27) Re: Pegasus DH2 by Peter Mullin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:08:27 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker D.VII Accessories Message-ID: <169.199a7dd.28e66afc@aol.com> Todd Hayes wrote: Don't forget the Copper State PE. Btw, how is the Tom's engine? My apologies for the late reply. I'm no engine expert, but the Tom's engine kit seems to me to be done fairly well with a one piece resin block/crankcase/cylinders and several white metal bits and pieces that should finish it out nicely. At least you won't have to drill and clean out between the cylinders. IMHO it's a big improvement over the two pieces of plastic to be glued together that came with the kit. Btw, other than the Spandaus, prop bosses and nuts and bolts in 1/32, what CSM PE, if any, are you referring to? VBR, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:18:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker D.VII Accessories Message-ID: <20010929001808.44371.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> For CSM, there's also the guage sets, and to really do up a kit, try ordering a 1:32 Digmayer prop. The 1:48 props are fantastic and the 1:32 ones probably better still. Todd --- CoolSpadLuke@aol.com wrote: > Todd Hayes wrote: Don't forget the Copper State PE. > Btw, how is the Tom's engine? > > My apologies for the late reply. I'm no engine > expert, but the Tom's engine kit seems to me to be > done fairly well with a one piece resin > block/crankcase/cylinders and several white metal > bits and pieces that should finish it out nicely. > At least you won't have to drill and clean out > between the cylinders. IMHO it's a big improvement > over the two pieces of plastic to be glued together > that came with the kit. > > Btw, other than the Spandaus, prop bosses and nuts > and bolts in 1/32, what CSM PE, if any, are you > referring to? > > VBR, > Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:06:28 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker D.VII Accessories Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010928180423.01cd6210@pop.amug.org> sorry no german gauges in 32 at this point, just french and brit. regards, eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:12:16 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: L.M.G.08 question Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010928180745.01cd9ec0@pop.amug.org> gaston, sorry about the time lag on this. the part described is not part of a lmg 08/15(at least not on mine which is complete and working minus the trigger set up). it sounds like it is a tool or an accessary. dave watts would probably be the best person to ask. HTH eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:45:06 -0300 From: "Martin Afflitto" To: Subject: RE: About my new toys Message-ID: Dear Marcio congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!! I´ve gone through similar situations in Argentina, but I don´t know why lately the customs ignore me. I prefer it. My trick in Buenos Aires, custon is to call it"educational material" and it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My ancestors were contrabandists untill 1810. After Patriots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A lot of congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcio Antonio Campos To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: [WWI] About my new toys > Hello, folks! > > Remember that Brazilian customs kept my package from Hannants some days ago. > They didn't accept my reasons for not paying import taxes, so this morning I > went to the post office, paid BRL 30 and they released the hostages. > > One Eduard Albatros D.Va - will become Veltjens's aircraft, Jasta 15. > > Two Eduard Albatros D.V - and I didn't like the painting schemes of the kit. > So I'll build one as Ernst von Althaus's plane, Jasta 10, and the another > one as (don't remember first name) Kilian, (don't remember Jasta). > > they are not-profipack, of course. > > One Revell Fokker D.VII - I'll monopolize them one day. > > Fokker D.VII Anthology vol. I. Haven't looked carefully at it yet, I'm at > work. > > All the best from Brazil > > Marcio Antonio Campos > (happy after winning a 30-minute duel with a Nieuport 17 - I was flying an > E.III - last night at RBII) > Redator do GuiaSP > StarMedia do Brasil > +55 11 30436421 > marcio.campos@starmedia.net > http://www.guiasp.com.br > http://www.guiarj.com.br > http://www.nacidade.com.br > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:03:20 -0700 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker D.VII Accessories Message-ID: <20010928.194711.-425529.6.r_niles1@juno.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_444c.324c.5861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had an opportunity to look at this kit yesterday, and if it was only $25.00, I might have considered buying it. It is not worth the $59.98 price tag that was on it at San Antonio. It may be in my chosen scale, and it may be a very desired subject in that scale, but it aint worth that much money. Just had to put my two cents worth in. Russ Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ----__JNP_000_444c.324c.5861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had an opportunity to look at this kit yesterday, and if it was only= =20 $25.00,  I might have considered buying it.  It is not = worth=20 the $59.98 price tag that was on it at San Antonio.
It may be in my chosen scale, and it may be a very desired subject in = that=20 scale, but it aint worth that much money.
 
Just had to put my two cents worth in.
 
Russ
 
Russ Niles IPMS 4450
Too close for missiles....switching to=20 guns.
----__JNP_000_444c.324c.5861-- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:26:02 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pyro Avro Tripe Message-ID: In a message dated 9/28/2001 12:47:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dave@vga-graphics.com writes: << Does anyone know the going price for these kits? I seem to remember one selling on E-Bay (www.moremoneythanbrains.com) a couple of years back for something like $40USD. DV >> One went today for $3.25 Dave Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 03:53:20 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: >From: "David C. Fletcher" > >Just remember that the D.H.2 was a pusher - I've seen a model built >that >would have had the propeller dragging the aircraft across the airfield >(not into the air...) backwards. If you use a tractor prop, then you >may have to play around with the bolt pattern or reshape the blades. David: OK. I've looked at the DH2 Pegasus kit and the 2-blade prop is backwards, according to the pictures I've seen and compared to it. Can anyone confirm my observation? So that's out - in the spares' tin. Upon close examination, the Airco DH4 4 blade prop is of course, backward, but switch it around, sand it up a bit, sand off the prop bolts on the front and put a Tom's Modelworks' prop emboss thing on the other side, and I think it'll look decent. It'll need a bit of re-shaping and sanding but it'll look better than anything I could scratchbuild. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:26:17 -0600 From: Charles Hart To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: eBay alert, rare book Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010928232617.00a23d50@spot.colorado.edu> Greetings all, I'll de-lurk from the archives to pass on a choice eBay alert: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1009981231 Happy bidding ! Charles Hart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 17:06:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD59D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil, > Its hard making new jokes about Queensland, they've all been > done before! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <<== Last Laugh ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 08:14:25 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: MisterKit paints Message-ID: <000001c148b6$5ea98420$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Dave Fleming wrote: >White might be the answer - I've tried light grey (Aeromaster) and 'straight' on >plastic. I'll try the old Halfords on the next one. Dave, that's the one I use. It gives a nice smooth finish (better than the Humbrol white spray, which seems very grainy) although it stinks to high heaven when you use it. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 08:14:26 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Figures Message-ID: <000101c148b6$5f6b4d80$983bedc1@w1o0t3> James wrote: >For crew figures you might try: >IT FIGURES, They sound interesting - which scales? 1/72 and 1/48? I haven't heard of these, so please keep us posted on what you think. I am just using some of the New Hope Design figures which are quite nice. But I think the best bet at present is to use some of the Preiser sets. The WWII Luftwaffe set is great and it won't take too much effort to convert these to WWI German pilots and ground crew. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 17:18:11 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: <001c01c148b6$e71d7640$14020c3f@umber> I knew a Queenslander that was so stupid that....... this person called me to get my phone number. they spent 20 minutes looking at the orange juice box because it said "concentrate." Oh hi Shane, BTW do you know of any AFC 1/72 decals around ???? cheers Ross ducking for cover as the bent yellow fruit is throw down at me.. ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 5:08 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Cooo-eee...again | Neil, | | > Its hard making new jokes about Queensland, they've all been | > done before! | | | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <<== Last Laugh ! | | Shane | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ********************************************************************** | The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is | intended only for the use of the addressee(s). | If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or | copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to | forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the | MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. | | e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au | phone: Australia 1800500646 | International ++61 7 38338042 | ********************************************************************** | | ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:29:30 +1000 From: "Karen & Keith Fainges" To: Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: Now sing it all together We are the mighty Lions of Brisbane Town............ Also having the last laugh Mwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Keith (still in search of a life ) Fainges | Neil, | | > Its hard making new jokes about Queensland, they've all been | > done before! | | | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH <<== Last Laugh ! | | Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 18:31:50 +1000 From: "Karen & Keith Fainges" To: Subject: RE: Figures Message-ID: CMK does 1/48th scale WW1 aviation figure IT Figures are a range of wargaming miniatures in exaggerated 28mm scale - work out to be between 1/64th and 1/55th depending on manufacturer Keith -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Nigel Rayner Sent: Saturday, 29 September 2001 5:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Figures James wrote: >For crew figures you might try: >IT FIGURES, They sound interesting - which scales? 1/72 and 1/48? I haven't heard of these, so please keep us posted on what you think. I am just using some of the New Hope Design figures which are quite nice. But I think the best bet at present is to use some of the Preiser sets. The WWII Luftwaffe set is great and it won't take too much effort to convert these to WWI German pilots and ground crew. Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:47:32 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: New Windsocks Message-ID: <019601c148cb$de5ecbc0$2de8b094@sandyada> just arrived today latest mag and datafile - I do think theSSW RI is an interesting machine but it seems an unlikely subject for a whole DF (89) - mind you the 1/48 plans take up a fair percentage I suppose. Since there was only one built (even though long lived and seemingly indestructible!) it gets a bit samey - I would have thought a miniDF more appropriate. The usual 3 back cover colour profiles have to give way to a single multi-view! Surely there must be stacks more source material available on much more important bombers like the HP Bloody paralysers or Blackburn Kangaroo or Sopwith Cuckoo - which I'm sure the indefatigable Jack Bruce could be persuaded to collate. Glad to have the SSW but I'd rather have many others first. The mag is devoted mostly to the inescapable, ever-present Fokker DVII - I suppose I'll have to build one sometime - so a bit of a yawn there! Nice article on Italian 2 seaters from Alberto though to give me something to read - thank you Signor Casirati! Good reviews of CSM Lohner and Jager Rumpler - hmmmmm, can I justify this sort of money on a 2-seater? News though of next years DFs 91 Fokker EI/EII 91 Hanriot HD1 92 Albatros BII 93 Caudron GIII 94 Staaken RVI 95 Caudron GIV and MiniDfs mentioned elsewhere 15 Ansaldo Baby 16 German Observers Guns 17 Italian National markings 18 DFW T28 Flea Don't a number of these seem awfully familiar? Eindecker, Hanriot, Flea? Thank goodness for the Caudrons. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:57:05 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Change of address Message-ID: <011101c148cd$185c9220$497016d5@netcabo.pt> Gang, My e-mail address has changed. Please notice that i can now be reached at pnsoares@netcabo.pt. The old address will work for 20 more days and then it'll go dead. Um abraço Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 11:56:59 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: nice photos Message-ID: <000901c148d5$76af04e0$497016d5@netcabo.pt> Gang, Nice photos of Belgian Aircrat. Take a look at the HD1. Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:55:51 +0200 From: "Liefferinckx Frederic" To: Subject: Nie11 Message-ID: <002b01c148dd$b0fb0e20$8d9d043e@d6o1v9> I'm back from a military training somewhere in europa Sorry for the delay,i present my condolence to you all and Good bless America. anybody have a instruction sheet for the Eduard Nie11( and a scanner) because i receive from my wife a kit boxe without the sheet. For the people who work on a Nie27,the High tech kit isn't perfect and i use a Eduard etched sheet n°48249 for the nie17 for some part and a pack of the slatters fine rod, working on the wing with sand paper and squadron flex file to make the wing on Nie27 profile. Sorry for my bad english but when i come bag from a training i 'm very tired . regard, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:30:57 +0200 From: "Liefferinckx Frederic" To: Subject: sadness Message-ID: <002101c148e2$99800fc0$73ad043e@d6o1v9> Sad news sorry Matt,my condolence to you and your family. Fred leif@swing.be PS: sorry for the delay. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:43:29 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: L.M.G.08 question Message-ID: Thanks a lot, Eric. Will forward the info! Gaston -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of ERIC HIGHT Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 3:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: L.M.G.08 question gaston, sorry about the time lag on this. the part described is not part of a lmg 08/15(at least not on mine which is complete and working minus the trigger set up). it sounds like it is a tool or an accessary. dave watts would probably be the best person to ask. HTH eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 09:05:06 -0400 From: "stefenk" To: "WWI Model List" Subject: That turquoise return on Dr.I's: Call for speculations Message-ID: <003501c148e7$5e24cd80$a76af6d1@stefenk> G'day, List-- Well, we all know about that diagnostic inch (?)-wide return of underside sky blue at the lower longeron of the triplane. Here's my question: If you were Mr. Fokker's shop foreman, how would you tell your painters/dopers to achieve it in the most economical, efficient, and consistent manner possible? Speculation is most welcome! TIA to all, Stefen --------------------------------------------------------------- NetZero Platinum Only $9.95 per month! Sign up in September to win one of 30 Hawaiian Vacations for 2! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 23:20:00 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD59E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross, > Ross ducking for cover as the bent yellow fruit is throw > down at me.. ;) Not working son. With a minds eye view of the long faces on 4 million Victorians you can't say a thing to stop me laughing! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:39:46 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Windsocks Message-ID: >From: "Sandy Adam" > >Surely there must be stacks more source material available on much more >important bombers like the HP Bloody paralysers or Blackburn Kangaroo >or >Sopwith Cuckoo - Sandy: Isn't the Sopwith Cuckoo going to be Datafile Number 90? Eagerly awaited by the entire model building community, not just WWI fanatics! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 09:58:51 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Nie11 Message-ID: <2b.1bf2aee6.28e72d9b@aol.com> Hi Fred, I'll be glad to send some scans to you. I'm assuming you want the Eduard 8069 and not the Profipack. Best regards, Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sat, 29 Sep 2001 7:50:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Liefferinckx Frederic" writes: > anybody have a instruction sheet for the Eduard Nie11( and a scanner) > because i receive from my wife a kit boxe without the sheet. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:21:02 -0300 From: "Martin Afflitto" To: Subject: RE: That turquoise return on Dr.I's: Call for speculations Message-ID: Dear Stefen Can You be a bit more clear.We really don´t understand the idea. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Martín ----- Original Message ----- From: stefenk To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 10:09 AM Subject: [WWI] That turquoise return on Dr.I's: Call for speculations > G'day, List-- > Well, we all know about that diagnostic inch (?)-wide return of underside > sky blue at the lower longeron of the triplane. Here's my question: If you > were Mr. Fokker's shop foreman, how would you tell your painters/dopers to > achieve it in the most economical, efficient, and consistent manner > possible? Speculation is most welcome! > TIA to all, > Stefen > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > NetZero Platinum > Only $9.95 per month! > Sign up in September to win one of 30 Hawaiian Vacations for 2! > http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:23:28 -0500 From: Peter Mullin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pegasus DH2 Message-ID: <3BB5E770.4E32E8DF@biocomp.unl.edu> Michael Kendix wrote: > I was considering the Le Prieur rocket version Then you're OK on the prop: from the pics in the Squadron book, 7862 had a 2-blade propeller > and I was going to use those left over from my Toko Nieuport 16c. Of course! I was just trying to avoid getting my hands on yet another kit to build...;-) (well, not really...but SWMBO does occasionally look askance at my [rather modest] kit pile...) More DH2 questions: The UC struts (metal) included in the Pegasus kit are vastly different in length, at least in the set I've got. Anybody have any suggestions as to how to deal with this, or any "solutions" to avoid? When it comes to the windscreen, it appears to have been either fitted to the Lewis mount (?) or to the nacelle...is this another highly variable feature, like the gravity tanks? Also, can anyone point me to a reasonable rendition of the "business end" of the control stick? Finally, many thanks to all who have provided helpful leads on figures...as always, this list is a fantastic fount of information! -- Peter Mullin Department of Plant Pathology University of Nebraska-Lincoln 406 Plant Sciences Hall Lincoln, NE 68583-0722 (402) 472-5770 FAX: (402) 472-2853 ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3760 **********************