WWI Digest 3759 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Brent's Nie.24/27 by "Graham Hunter" 2) Pyro Avro Tripe by "David Vosburgh" 3) Fotocut by "Lance Krieg" 4) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "Michael Kendix" 5) RE: Fotocut by "dfernet0" 6) RE: Pyro Avro Tripe by "dfernet0" 7) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "dfernet0" 8) Re: Nie.24/27 making the conversion by "dfernet0" 9) Re: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "dfernet0" 10) Re:Vac-Form fever by Paul Thompson 11) Re: Fotocut by "tsollers" 12) RE: Lozengia ad absurdum by Rory Goodwin 13) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by Rory Goodwin 14) RE:Mister Kit Paints by "Nigel Rayner" 15) About my new toys by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 16) Re: Pyro Avro Tripe by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 17) Re: Fotocut by "Lance Krieg" 18) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by Dennis Ugulano 19) Re: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "James Fahey" 20) RE:Mister Kit Paints by David Fleming 21) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by David Fleming 22) Re: About my new toys by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 23) Mother of Eagles by "Gaston Graf" 24) Lozenge "Deckels" by "Brian Nicklas" 25) Re: Lozenge "Deckels" by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 26) Re: Lozenge "Deckels" by Shane Weier 27) Re: Pyro Avro Tripe by "David C. Fletcher" 28) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "David C. Fletcher" 29) Re: Lozenge "Deckels" by ERIC HIGHT 30) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:56:34 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: Re: Brent's Nie.24/27 Message-ID: <001601c14836$26ad25c0$fa0101c0@grahamh> Tomasz, I have The Tom's Model Works 24, 24bis, 27 conversion kit for the Eduard N.17 and it looks like a great kit. It comes with the fuselage halves, the different tailplane and fin/rudder. It also includes the Nieuport PE set, which is very nice, especially when you just have the regular Eduard kit. Decals for three different "birds" are included. You have to reshape the Eduard ailerons if you do the N.27, a drawing is provided. I was told that Tom's was a better kit as it includes the PE and the High Tech does not. So for the same price I went with Tom's. HTH, Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 12:46:03 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: "WWI Mailing List" Subject: Pyro Avro Tripe Message-ID: <001a01c14906$3abd4b00$e5ed19ce@default> Does anyone know the going price for these kits? I seem to remember one selling on E-Bay (www.moremoneythanbrains.com) a couple of years back for something like $40USD. DV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:54:09 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Fotocut Message-ID: Does anyone have an e-mail address for Fred Hultberg at Fotocut? The old one oletcher@fredsmail.com gets no response when it doesn't bounce. I'm preparing a couple of PE sheets for engine parts and assorted hardware, and hoped that Fred would do the etching. TIA Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:56:05 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: >From: "Graham Hunter" >>Michael wrote; >< >Get Scratching Michael. > Graham: Most helpful - not:)! The only thing I'm scratching is the side of my head. I may do one of the two-blade prop machines:). Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:04:12 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Fotocut Message-ID: <019301c1483f$98e3f3e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Lance! Ask Barry from Rosemont. I'm sure he'll help you D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: [WWI] Fotocut > Does anyone have an e-mail address for Fred Hultberg at Fotocut? > > The old one oletcher@fredsmail.com gets no response when it doesn't bounce. > > I'm preparing a couple of PE sheets for engine parts and assorted hardware, and hoped that Fred would do the etching. > > TIA > > Lance > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:05:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Pyro Avro Tripe Message-ID: <019b01c1483f$caa78400$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Yikes I'm so dumb that I clicked on the URL you wrote... doh! D. Curse you, red baron! ----- Original Message ----- From: David Vosburgh To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: [WWI] Pyro Avro Tripe > Does anyone know the going price for these kits? I seem to remember one selling on E-Bay > (www.moremoneythanbrains.com) a couple of years back for something like $40USD. > > DV > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:06:30 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: <01a301c1483f$eadee420$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> You can modify the Airfix DH4 (or it was the RE8?) plastic propeller. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Kendix To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale > >From: "Graham Hunter" > >>Michael wrote; > >< > > >Get Scratching Michael. > > > Graham: > > Most helpful - not:)! The only thing I'm scratching is the side of my head. > I may do one of the two-blade prop machines:). > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:09:13 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Re: Nie.24/27 making the conversion Message-ID: <01c401c14840$4c009d20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> David! > My dream is that Mr Tamyia or Mr Hasegawa remembers that the Japanese licence > built Nie 24s as the Ko3......... We can send a Ninja to leave a Nieuport datafile on their desk and leave quietly... D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:14:50 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Re: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: <01e901c14841$14f291c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Peter! > are there 1/72 > rockets available out there, or should I just make some? Michael answered this one, but I may add that making them from two sizes of plastic rod ain't difficult at all. The conical point of them can be fashioned chucking the rod in the motor tool and sanding it against a flat file. Remember to make it in several "touches" if not the plastic rod will melt by friction. > And does anyone make > RFC air/ground crew figures in small scale? A while ago someone told us about a white metal range that is being reissued, New Hope Design, I guess it was the name... D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:23:12 +0200 From: Paul Thompson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re:Vac-Form fever Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010928191820.009f3980@pop.xs4all.nl> Dave, I've done the Be2a - results are on the WWI site. Someone else from the list has pics of a much better attempt, unfortunately I can't remember who. FWIW, I've got another one, and both had the (rather nice) metal content, but both strangely enough had a missing exhaust stack. It was a fun build - one of the first models I did after re-entering the hobby 2 years ago. Good luck with it. Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:15:38 -0400 From: "tsollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fotocut Message-ID: <200109281715.f8SHFd502732@mail.bcpl.net> Lance: If you're interested, I've got Fred's phone number at home. I can e-mail it to you this evening. What kind of engine bits are you doing? I've got a huge sheet of items I'm getting ready to send off to him. I created mine on my Mac in Illustrator. How are you doing yours? I always thought it would be neat to try making cylinders with cooling fins out of successive layers of relief etched disks. Kind of like stacking washers. The benefit would be no mold seams to clean up and there would be very deep recesses between the thin fins. Of course the cylinder tops would have to be capped with a detailed resin part. And each disk would have to be the correct thickness so that when stacked up the cylinder is the correct length. Any possibilities? Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:53:27 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Lozengia ad absurdum Message-ID: <3BB4B917.1C4ADA99@earthlink.net> It seems to be consistent with my vage recollections of period descriptions of 5-color lozenge, and more importantly, it looks "right" to me. I may be mistaken, but its among the only reconstructions that *looks* authentic (to me). Maybe five-color was very greenish, but did it not also contain ochre and deep blue? AFAICT, these are not well represented on decal sheets I have seen; the blue is virtually black and the ochre and other colors seem off (on AG & Aeromaster). It's difficult to put one's finger on. To my eye, the Shuttleworth LVG just seems to have hues right. Have you had a look at Koster 4-color? Shane Weier wrote: > Rio > > > FWIW, I'm using the postcard of Shuttleworth's > > (?) LVG as a benchmark for 5-color. > > I'm curious to know why you chose a postcard of the reproduction fabric on > the Shuttleworth LVG as a colour standard. Any particular reason? > > Shane > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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Graham Hunter wrote: > Michael wrote; > < > Get Scratching Michael. > > Graham ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:00:17 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE:Mister Kit Paints Message-ID: <000001c1484f$d0146ba0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Dave Fleming wrote: >With regard to the recent discussions, one point for those of us that use good old >fashioned paint brushed, I have found that the Mr Kit paints are very sensitive to the SHAPE of >brush used. >For many years, I've used flat, chisel shaped brushes for painting larger areas on models. With >Mr Kit, I was finding I needed 6 or 7 coats to get good solid colour. Do you undercoat first Dave? I really like MisterKit paints and (like you) am a real man so use brushes :-) However, I undercoat with a spray white auto primer that gives a very smooth finish. I find one coat of MK is fine for lighter colours like CDL. Two coats is usually plenty for the darker colours. >I then tried a round brush, and found I got the same level of coverage with just a couple > of coats. I used a chisel headed brush for large areas and didn't have any difficulties (but I had undercoated first). But I'll try a round brush as well. >In spite of the coverage problems, I still like the finish this paint gives Me too, I love 'em, altho' I personally don't like the PC10 colour (I mix my own out of Fokker Olive and Albatros Red Brown). I'm about to order a complete set of all WWI colours. >- any tips to varnishing ? I use Humbrol semi-gloss spray varnish out of the can, no problems there. My BE2e in the gallery was painted entirely in MisterKit (except the wooden bits) and finished in Humbrol varnish. Don't look too close however otherwise you'll see where the top wing PC10 is slightly different from the rest of it. Moral of that story is mix your custom PC10 in one batch!! Cheers, Nigel R ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:07:45 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: About my new toys Message-ID: <001601c14850$dce54100$581ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> Hello, folks! Remember that Brazilian customs kept my package from Hannants some days ago. They didn't accept my reasons for not paying import taxes, so this morning I went to the post office, paid BRL 30 and they released the hostages. One Eduard Albatros D.Va - will become Veltjens's aircraft, Jasta 15. Two Eduard Albatros D.V - and I didn't like the painting schemes of the kit. So I'll build one as Ernst von Althaus's plane, Jasta 10, and the another one as (don't remember first name) Kilian, (don't remember Jasta). they are not-profipack, of course. One Revell Fokker D.VII - I'll monopolize them one day. Fokker D.VII Anthology vol. I. Haven't looked carefully at it yet, I'm at work. All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos (happy after winning a 30-minute duel with a Nieuport 17 – I was flying an E.III – last night at RBII) Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:14:04 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pyro Avro Tripe Message-ID: <16f.19d27a6.28e625fc@aol.com> Ebay seems to be a buyers market right now. I just got the 4 Impact/Pyro 'tweenwars biplanes for a total of $20. I would have expected to maybe pay that for just the Firefly not so very long ago. Last time I looked there were several MagMen kits ,listed variously as Impact, Pyro, Lifelike and Life-Like, going for less than $10 each. No Bleriot though. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:14:12 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Fotocut Message-ID: Tom volunteers: "I can e-mail it to you this evening." Please do, Thanks! "What kind of engine bits are you doing?" I'm using pen and ink,and besides a variety of fishplates, plan: valve covers rocker arms gaskets cylinder heads distributer faces and whatever else comes to me, for a variety of engines. I will make a sheet of two-dimensional shapes, and a second of profiled parts. "I always thought it would be neat to try making cylinders with cooling fins out of successive layers of relief etched disks." Paul Howard has done this and has the art for a LeRhone - 300 or so pieces. He expects to have these etched with a friend who helped in the design. Tom Morgan and myself are both interested in supporting the effort and getting these parts. Paul? Any progress? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:16:51 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: <200109281517_MC3-E192-CDA@compuserve.com> Michael, Aeroclub makes a four blade prop. You can also rob one off a Airfix DH-4 kit. My second DH-2 has the DH-4 prop. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 9/08/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 07:33:50 +1200 From: "James Fahey" To: Subject: Re: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: <002701c14854$807fdac0$d690a7cb@computer> Peter wrote: > rockets available out there, or should I just make some? And does anyone make > RFC air/ground crew figures in small scale? > For crew figures you might try: IT FIGURES, 193 St.Margaret's Road, Lowestoft, Suffolk, NR32 4HN, England,. Tel:- 01502 518340. The figures are white metal and they do both British and German. I have just written to them but have not had a response yet so I can't say how good they are. At The Aerodrome people have said nice things about them though. I am building the Pegasus DH2 at the moment as well. The kit appears to be mostly quite accurate. The rear part of the engine nacelle is a bit of an enigma because the kit appears to leave areas 'uncovered' and the sloping panel under the engine has no locating pins so the correct angle is unclear. The Datafile has a picture which clarifies this - Bob Baumgartner sent me a scan of this, which I can forward to you off-list. You will also need to add a section of wing spar in the centre section of the lower wing (the rear spar), between the rear undercarriage struts - check the photos in the Squadron book. I found the wheels were not sufficiently 'dished' compared to photos, so I will be replacing those. I think you will find the axle should not be just one piece but three pieces of rod, and the kit axle is too short. Cheers James > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:40:02 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE:Mister Kit Paints Message-ID: <3BB4D212.483D9FCA@dial.pipex.com> Nigel Rayner wrote: > Dave Fleming wrote: > > >For many years, I've used flat, chisel shaped brushes for painting larger > areas on models. With >Mr Kit, I was finding I needed 6 or 7 coats to get > good solid colour. > > Do you undercoat first Dave? I really like MisterKit paints and (like you) > am a real man so use brushes :-) However, I undercoat with a spray white > auto primer that gives a very smooth finish. I find one coat of MK is fine > for lighter colours like CDL. Two coats is usually plenty for the darker > colours. > White might be the answer - I've tried light grey (Aeromaster) and 'straight' on plastic. I'll try the old Halfords on the next one. > > > >In spite of the coverage problems, I still like the finish this paint gives > Me too, I love 'em, altho' I personally don't like the PC10 colour (I mix my > own out of Fokker Olive and Albatros Red Brown). I'm about to order a > complete set of all WWI colours. > I think the PC10 is too grey & light - I like the Olive/red mix idea. > > >- any tips to varnishing ? > I use Humbrol semi-gloss spray varnish out of the can, no problems there. My > BE2e in the gallery was painted entirely in MisterKit (except the wooden > bits) and finished in Humbrol varnish. Don't look too close however > otherwise you'll see where the top wing PC10 is slightly different from the > rest of it. Moral of that story is mix your custom PC10 in one batch!! > Or claim artistic interpretaion of a repaint/fading !!! Thanks Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:42:50 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: <3BB4D2BA.81EABEF8@dial.pipex.com> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > Michael, > > Aeroclub makes a four blade prop. You can also rob one off a > Airfix DH-4 kit. My second DH-2 has the DH-4 prop. > Aeroclub do a 4 bld 8' 6" R/H prop for DH4 etc (P053) and another one for a BE2 series (P040). Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:03:53 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: About my new toys Message-ID: Marcio., seems like you're one listee who should have no problem sticking to dicta Ira for the next few weeks ;) Have fun. Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 22:04:17 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Mother of Eagles Message-ID: Friends, Foes, and all the rest, I was contacted by Schiffer books today. They asked me to write a review about the book that my friend Sue Fischer wrote. She translated the diary of Manfred von Richthofens mother. You can have a first look at the book here: http://www.schifferbooks.com/military/aviationwwi/076431307X.html More about it as soon as I will receive my copy of it. I also own the original German version so it is easy to compare. Gaston Graf http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:16:14 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Lozenge "Deckels" Message-ID: I only have lozenge decals in 1/72, so my comments only apply to that scale... I have Microscale, Pegasus and Eagles Strike, plus an unknown sheet. The Microscale were usable way back when, but have been surpassed by the newer sheets. My Microscale examples must come from at least three different print runs, because they are of three distinct tonal values. The Pegasus decals were matched to the Silberstrief printed 1/1 scale bolts of lozenge fabric done for restorations by the Deutsches Museum, USAF Museum and NASM. These, in turn were reproduced under the keen eyes of several knowledgable curators and historians, incl Peter Grosz. I think the Pegasus sheets are quite nice, both the 4 color and 5 color upper and lower. Pegasus also does a sheet of Naval lozenge which looks great. The Eagles Strike sheets also come in 4 color or 5 color, with an additional sheet covering the rib tapes. Although a little different in tone from Pegasus, I think these look quite good as well, and are most certainly usable. Beware matching lozenge to the NASM Albatros. The lozenge on this aircraft was painted on the fabric, and although a good guess at the time, the information has been far surpassed during the Silberstreif replication for the Halberstadt Cl.IV trio restoration. Not having seen the Shuttleworth LVG, I cannot comment, but I would be wary of comparing anything representing a "new" aircraft, vis a 2001 example of a 1917 aircraft. (And when the NASM Halb. Cl.IV comes home from Germany, I'll be quite happy...) I do not have any of the Americal-Gryphon lozenge. Aeromaster's are/were 1/48 and I believe all of Koster's product's are 1/48, so I cannot comment on these either. As far as 1/72, I think anyone on this list would be happy with Pegasus or Eagle's Strike. Cheers! Brian Nicklas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 16:45:53 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Lozenge "Deckels" Message-ID: <147.2439176.28e63b81@aol.com> I know that the accepted view of Eduard lozenge is that it is "too green", but it stood up well in comparison to a sample of the real thing on the C&C stand at a UK Nats. When varnished the 1:1 fabric looks quite different and I wonder how many of the published colour values on which decal manufacturers rely are based on unvarnished fabric samples. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 06:52:26 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Lozenge "Deckels" Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD59A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Peter says: >When varnished the 1:1 fabric looks quite > different and I > wonder how many of the published colour values on which decal > manufacturers > rely are based on unvarnished fabric samples. Ding! Peter gets a prize. I've wondered that myself - in comparison of loz decals with unvarnished fabric you should find that the decals are darker and more vivid than the fabric. I've had this demonstrated to me quite vividly too - it only takes a piece of the silberstreif stuff and a glass of water ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:23:45 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pyro Avro Tripe Message-ID: <3BB4EA61.2080506@mars.ark.com> LEONARDPeterL@aol.com wrote: I would have expected to maybe pay that for just the Firefly not so very long ago... Didn't you mean 'Flycatcher'? It's nearly "OT" whereas a Firefly lacks a few things, like rigging wires... ;-) Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: We now have a Yahoo address as well: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:23:41 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: <3BB4EA5D.2090104@mars.ark.com> David Fleming wrote: > Aeroclub do a 4 bld 8' 6" R/H prop for DH4 etc (P053) and another one > for a BE2 series (P040). Just remember that the D.H.2 was a pusher - I've seen a model built that would have had the propeller dragging the aircraft across the airfield (not into the air...) backwards. If you use a tractor prop, then you may have to play around with the bolt pattern or reshape the blades. Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: We now have a Yahoo address as well: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:31:13 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Lozenge "Deckels" Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010928142726.01cd9920@pop.amug.org> peter, shane et all, our 4 and 5 color lozenge is based off sample fabric from the smith. project. and you are absolutely correct about the color change when it is "doped". just thought i would add my 2 cents worth. regards, eric CSM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:00:42 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: David: Right! That's why I cannot use other kit's blades (unless they're pushers). I had the same problem finding a 4-blade prop for the RE5 - I was going to ask Barry for one of the pusher props from the SSW DDr.1 kit but he pointed out the same problem, in reverse (literally, ha ha). Also, getting the right shape etc, one might as well either scratch build or puchase from Aeroclub. One thought though. What if the same blade were used and the engine was made to turn the other direction? Could that happen? As you can tell, I know zipperdeedoodah about engines. Michael >From: "David C. Fletcher" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale >Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:25:25 -0400 (EDT) > >David Fleming wrote: > > > > Aeroclub do a 4 bld 8' 6" R/H prop for DH4 etc (P053) and another one > > for a BE2 series (P040). > >Just remember that the D.H.2 was a pusher - I've seen a model built that >would have had the propeller dragging the aircraft across the airfield >(not into the air...) backwards. If you use a tractor prop, then you >may have to play around with the bolt pattern or reshape the blades. > >Dave Fletcher >-- >Visit us at our Home Page: > >We now have a Yahoo address as well: > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3759 **********************