WWI Digest 3758 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) 1909 Avro Triplane Drawing by "martin" 2) Caproni Ca3 WAS: RE: Mr Kit Paint Source by Shane Weier 3) Re: 1909 Avro Triplane Drawing by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 4) RE: Mr Kit Paint Source by Rory Goodwin 5) Re: Shutting off HTML on AOL v. 6.0 for Windows - Anybody know by "Lee M." 6) Lozengia ad absurdum by Rory Goodwin 7) RE: Mr Kit Paint Source by Shane Weier 8) RE: Lozengia ad absurdum by Shane Weier 9) Vac Form fever by David Fleming 10) Re: Pigeons by "James Fahey" 11) RE: Vac Form fever by "dfernet0" 12) RE: Vac Form fever by David Fleming 13) Re: Brent's Nie.24/27 by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 14) Re: Brent's Nie.24/27 by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 15) Nie.24/27 making the conversion by "dfernet0" 16) Re: Mr Kit Paint Source/again by "Muth and Zulick" 17) Re: Mr Kit Paint Source/again by "Muth and Zulick" 18) Re: Brent's Nie.24/27 by "Muth and Zulick" 19) DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: Mr Kit Paint Source/again by "Michael Kendix" 21) Re: Shutting off HTML on AOL v. 6.0 for Windows - Anybody know by "Lee M." 22) RE: Mr Kit Paint Source by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 23) Re: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by Peter Mullin 24) Mr Kit Paints by David Fleming 25) Re: Nie.24/27 making the conversion by David Fleming 26) RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "Graham Hunter" 27) Re: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:32:04 -0300 From: "martin" To: "WWI Lista" Subject: 1909 Avro Triplane Drawing Message-ID: <04a801c14758$cc4bd320$b70de818@fibertel.com.ar> To all of you !!!! Folks To whom it may interest : the AVRO Triplane photograph is in the web. http://www.ivyandmartin.demon.co.uk/martinphotos/avro_tri_masm.htm Martín ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:37:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Caproni Ca3 WAS: RE: Mr Kit Paint Source Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD591@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Mike notes: > I was going to try to scratch build the Caproni Ca.3 > using wood, styrene and whatever else. It's doable. I have wings, engines, guns, tail surfaces and a few bits for the central gondala ready. Once I get a surge of enthusiasm it'll take about a year to finish. I kit would be easier ;-) > The kit is my present for Christmas 2006. I have used up all > the earlier gift-receiving occasions. I hope I will have > finished it by then. ;-) We may just about dead-heat, given the aabsence of a surge of enthusiasm here ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 22:48:03 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: 1909 Avro Triplane Drawing Message-ID: <6f.1b4c9f62.28e53ee3@aol.com> In a message dated Thu, 27 Sep 2001 9:35:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "martin" writes: > To all of you !!!! Folks > > To whom it may interest : the AVRO Triplane photograph is in the web. http://www.ivyandmartin.demon.co.uk/martinphotos/avro_tri_masm.htm I didn't realize there were several different versions of the Avro Triplane. This is the one at the Manchester Museum of Science and Technology that Peter Leonard referred to in a recent message. This site sells 24 close-up photos of this aircraft by both email download and CD. I believe I was mistaken in looking for a 1909 version when what I'm after is the one in the August 2001 WWI AERO centerfold photo which is listed as a Roe IV triplane. I have a Life-Like 1911 Avro Triplane kit in 1/48 that is similar to the one in the centerfold except more of the fuselage is covered. Also, it's kind of small for me. I'm leaning towards 1/24 scale. Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:07:00 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Mr Kit Paint Source Message-ID: <3BB3F764.5D25BB20@earthlink.net> When was this Caproni kit released & how much? How does it compare to the Meikraft kit? Do you have the drawings from the Italian Windsock issue? CoolSpadLuke@aol.com wrote: > D. said, "In fact, the Misterkit hobby shop Emails are answered by ex-listee Franco Poloni whose wonderful Caproni can be seen at the model galleries on the site (man someday I must get one of those kits!) > > D., I ordered the AJP Maquette Caproni kit through Aeroclub about a month ago and should be getting it in another two to three weeks and I'm afraid I have bitten off more than I can chew! I was going to try to scratch build the Caproni Ca.3 using wood, styrene and whatever else. I got the aircraft plans and engine manual from WWI AERO, Ray Rimell's review of the kit and several photos. The plans did not include any cross-section drawings so that I could accurately determine the shape of the curved surfaces so, after much agonizing, I ordered the kit. I've got my micro-soldering gear ready but don't believe I will use all the brass parts, substituting wood and styrene where it might serve better. > > The kit is my present for Christmas 2006. I have used up all the earlier gift-receiving occasions. I hope I will have finished it by then. ;-) > > VBR, > Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 23:18:39 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Shutting off HTML on AOL v. 6.0 for Windows - Anybody know Message-ID: <3BB3FA1E.1597228C@x25.net> On my machine I click the EDIT and open it. Go to the bottom and click PROPERTIES When that opens click MAIL SERVERS This should open a section that gives you the chance to select HTML or TEXT. Mine allows me to request a panel which asks if I want to send the message as HTML or TEXT. I selected the option to display the panel before I send every message and it does it remarkably well. In the panel I click TEXT and that takes care of the whole thing This function is inside your computer and has little if anything to do with AOL or anything else. The choice is on your own computer and not some server located elsewhere. I use Netscape and always have but the panel for making changes to E-Mail Format is in the computer not elsewhere. The method of changing is listed in the FAQ for the wwi Web site and it was put in there by Matt Bittner several months ago. I am sure he can help if you ask. Lee M. Stephendigiacomo@aol.com wrote: > --part1_a0.1afb7656.28e4d7cb_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I've checked and I can't find where this can be done. > > Stephen di Giacomo > Enfield, Connecticut > stephendigiacomo@aol.com > > --part1_a0.1afb7656.28e4d7cb_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I've checked and I can't find where this can be done. >
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> > --part1_a0.1afb7656.28e4d7cb_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:26:01 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Lozengia ad absurdum Message-ID: <3BB3FBD9.C123E8B1@earthlink.net> stefenk wrote: *snip* > Contrariwise, I am not entirely convinced of the hues that have > | been chosen, being much too muted (grayed down), which particularly > affects > | the color identity of the darker tones. At least with respect to 5-color > | uppers, I find the Pegasus offering to match most closely with NASM's > | Albatros fabric (apologies to those List members who served as > consultants). > I haven't been satisfied with any uppersurface lozenge decals besides Koster's 4-color (are these still available?). Haven't seen AG's 4-color, but his 5-color have way too much green and not enough blue and ochre; the Aeromaster 5-color colors are virtually the same. The old Superscale 4-color sheets are too bluish. FWIW, I'm using the postcard of Shuttleworth's (?) LVG as a benchmark for 5-color. How does Pegasus compare? I'm dying for some decent lozzy in 1/72 so I can finish my Hannoveraner... Riordan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:49:52 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Mr Kit Paint Source Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD596@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rory of a thousand names says: > When was this Caproni kit released & how much? How does it > compare to the Meikraft kit? > Couple of years ago. Shortly after I started my scratchbuild of course. Compared to the Meikraft kit it's 50% larger, and therefore correctly to scale ;-) It's also mostly etched brass - skeletal with tissue covering Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:04:20 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Lozengia ad absurdum Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD597@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Rio > FWIW, I'm using the postcard of Shuttleworth's > (?) LVG as a benchmark for 5-color. I'm curious to know why you chose a postcard of the reproduction fabric on the Shuttleworth LVG as a colour standard. Any particular reason? Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:02:11 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Vac Form fever Message-ID: <3BB458B2.A4A8904C@dial.pipex.com> (I feel a Ted Nugent riff here) I blame this on Diego and his list, which reminded me how many OT vacs I actually own. Anyway, as my Albatros nears completion (Finally !!), I dug out my next project, the Joystick Nieuport 24/27. Can anyone remind me of the diffs between the 17bis and the 24bis ? Is it just that the 24/bis had the plywood leading edge ? Also arriving today was a Phoenix BE2a - anyone built this one ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 23:03:04 +1200 From: "James Fahey" To: Subject: Re: Pigeons Message-ID: <009f01c1480d$267a2b80$7298a7cb@computer> > > << anyone know where I can get a flock of 1/32 > > pigeons?? >> > > Who was asking about the 1/32 pigeons? I have deleted the post but if you are still looking try: Langley Models in the UK who specialise in model railway scenic items in various scales, including various sets of birds in 'O' gauge, made in white metal. O gauge must be getting close to 1/32 http://www.langley-models.co.uk/frames/shop_frame1.htm James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 08:21:51 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Vac Form fever Message-ID: <00c001c1480f$c5a4b660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hey Dave! > (I feel a Ted Nugent riff here) Send my regards to Ted from me, please ;-) > I blame this on Diego and his list, which reminded me how many OT vacs I > actually own. I'd love to read what comments you'll have about the kits you'll build to update my list, and I'm looking forward to add a link to the pictures of the finished model, whenever it'll be! Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:58:16 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Vac Form fever Message-ID: <3BB465D8.6DE27018@dial.pipex.com> dfernet0 wrote: > Hey Dave! > > > I blame this on Diego and his list, which reminded me how many OT vacs I > > actually own. > > I'd love to read what comments you'll have about the kits you'll build to > update my list, and I'm looking forward to add a link to the pictures of the > finished model, whenever it'll be! I've set myself a target of next April, but will be delighted if I get them done sooner. Incidentally, my BE2a kit is the early non white metal one, so I'm going to have fun !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:03:14 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Re: Brent's Nie.24/27 Message-ID: > The best I could tell is that HR > glued some strips of .005" plastic card on the wings. "Viola! (or whatever > they say in Czech-land) Nieuport 24-27!" It is correct. Brent's photo witnesses that: - the cut out above pilot's head is too shallow, just like in Nie.11-17. - ailerons have been simply rounded, while their depth as well as an angle of trailing edges have remained unchanged. Tomasz ------------------------------------------------------------ Ocenzurowana przez TV. Ignorowana przez media... Salon Recreativo. Nowa plyta KULTu. >http://kult.interia.pl/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:55:51 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: Re: Brent's Nie.24/27 Message-ID: OK. Now let me switch to quarter scale. Has anybody bought both Eduard Nieuport and Hitech Nieuport to compare them? I am curious if the latter has all-new wing or if it is modified Nie.17 part. As far as late Nieuport had longer airfoil, it affected ailerons shape and alignment. Also have both kits the same cabane struts? TIA Tomasz --------------------------------------------------------- Czy potrafisz odroznic prawdziwe od wypchanych silikonem? Kobiece piersi >> http://focuspiersi.interia.pl/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:09:03 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Nie.24/27 making the conversion Message-ID: <011f01c1481e$bf37abc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> This thread about the 27 makes me wonder on how to make the conversion of the faired fuselage... I have a cunning plan (consider this as a musing): Taking a type 17 fuselage (after correcting the usual depth issue on 1/72), fill roughly the sides with milliput from the front "bulges" to the aft end and then sand to shape. Determine where the plywood section ends and file/sand from that line to the tail section. Finally, skin this part with very thin styrene sheet embossed from inside and voila! However, there's a feeble point in my plot... for the true ams sufferers the faired fuselage sides will end too thick, as it can be seen from the inside thru the cockpit opening. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:12:39 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Mr Kit Paint Source/again Message-ID: <001301c1481f$41434c00$0100005a@ptd.net> Tom Thanks for the tip on amount of thinning...I think I'll try it tonight as I embark on the Eduard Nieuport 11 in Bellgian Colors. Decided the underneath color on top wing outline will be CDL after a brief flirtation with aluminum. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Plesha" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday,September 27,2001 11:19 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Mr Kit Paint Source/again > Mike says: > snip > The CDL doesn't go on > > too well with a brush, but airbrushed ok...a little bit longer than usual > to > > dry, however. > snip > Hi Mike- > I was able to locate a few bottles of CDL and PC-10 at Nostalgia Plastic. > I usually thin the Mr Kit paint about 35%-40% and airbrush it, but you are > right, it takes a lot of coats to cover well and is a bit slower drying then > you might expect. I like the textured type finish it leaves. > I needed more then normal, 'cause I had to redo some screw-ups. > > Thanks > Tom > S.E.MI. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:15:45 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Mr Kit Paint Source/again Message-ID: <002101c1481f$aecde640$0100005a@ptd.net> Another good idea from Mike. I have used a lightbulb that I can lower to get close to the part being painted....although not to close. I never thought about a hairdryer, as those who know mne can attest to, I don't have much need for one. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kendix" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday,September 27,2001 11:42 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Mr Kit Paint Source/again > Tom et al.: > > I have used the Mister Kit paints with the airbrush and found them to be > excellent. True, they need an extra coat or two but I spray on thin layers > then drying off each thin quickly with a hair dryer. The texture is also > smoother for a better finish than the grainier stuff from Testors and > Polyscale As for brushing, I have difficulties with most acrylics. If I > was only doing brushing, I would stick to enamels. While enamels take > longer to dry and smell more, they do go on really well with a brush. I > still use enamels for small detail brushing. > > For Nostalgic Plastic see: > > http://www.nostalgicplastic.com > > They have a fairly full line of the available Mister Kit colours. They are > also my local store - only 2 miles away, so obviously I haven't done mail > order with them. > > Michael > > > > >From: "Tom Plesha" > >>Mike says: > >snip > > The CDL doesn't go on > > > too well with a brush, but airbrushed ok...a little bit longer than > >usual > >to > > > dry, however. > >snip > >Hi Mike- > >I was able to locate a few bottles of CDL and PC-10 at Nostalgia Plastic. > >I usually thin the Mr Kit paint about 35%-40% and airbrush it, but you are > >right, it takes a lot of coats to cover well and is a bit slower drying > >then > >you might expect. I like the textured type finish it leaves. > >I needed more then normal, 'cause I had to redo some screw-ups. > > > >Thanks > >Tom > >S.E.MI. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:33:09 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Brent's Nie.24/27 Message-ID: <009401c14822$1d6300c0$0100005a@ptd.net> > Has anybody bought both Eduard Nieuport and Hitech Nieuport to compare them? > I am curious if the latter has all-new wing or if it is modified Nie.17 > part. The Hitech kit simply includes the Eduard Top wing and provides the ailerons seperately to give the wing edges the rounded look. As far as late Nieuport had longer airfoil, it affected ailerons shape > and alignment. Also have both kits the same cabane struts? New ones, iirc, on the Hitech kit, although I think I will try and use the Eduard ones....much cleaner. As an aside, I tried building the other resin based conversion (Tom's? can't remember the name....some nice decals I think Bob did, however) and really liked the fuselage. Unfortunately, I screwed it up and destroyed any traces of it. I'll try again after I finish the current stuff on the work table. I like the faired fuselage, however, and wonder why Eduard or someone else doesn't do it. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:35:31 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: Just as Geoffrey Chaucer's "The Knight's Tale" was a confusing mix of classical greek and mediaevel metaphors and references, so is Pegasus/Blue Max's DH2. The mixture of early and late components combined in the same Blue Max kit are described in an excellent review by Mark Nelson - please see http://www.wwi-models.org/reviews/aircraft/BM.dh-2.html Being of the 1/72nd scale persuasion, the Pegasus version appears to compound this confusion. We are given the decal for 7907 - the same as one of the options in the 1/48th scale Blue Max version, but for some reason, a 2-blade, rather than a 4 blade prop is provided. 7907 appears in a painting on the back of the Squadron DH2 In Action book but since that rendition is only a painting, not a picture, and it is in flight, it's hard to know how many blades on the propeller. It seems odd, that having gone to some trouble to provide a really nice kit - the metal bits look really good and the plastic components feature good detail - that Pegasus/Blue Max cannot make up their minds as to which version they want to produce. Has anyone attempted the Pegasus version of this kit? Is the Datafile helpful in explaining the early and late versions or can I make do with the Squadron publication? Where do I obtain a 4-blade propeller for the DH2 in 1/72nd scale? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:39:30 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Mr Kit Paint Source/again Message-ID: >From: "Muth and Zulick" >Another good idea from Mike. I have used a lightbulb that I can lower >to >get close to the part being painted....although not to close. I >never >thought about a hairdryer, as those who know mne can attest to, >I don't >have much need for one. Mike: Fair enough but whoever thought of using it for drying hair? I never use it for its intended purpose either but SWMBO does occasionally, though she allows me to keep it in the basement where I airbrush. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:16:21 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com, wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Shutting off HTML on AOL v. 6.0 for Windows - Anybody know Message-ID: <3BB48635.6CDF11AE@x25.net> No reflection on you or anyone else. I did not say you did not read the FAQ, I suggested it, you did not mention asking Matt about the method to eliminate the HTML nor for that matter did you mention asking AOL as to the means to accomplish the end desired. Rules for using the WW I site include a statement about sending "plain text" only and not HTML. You send it anyway and then complained about those that, out of friendship, tried to help.. Until now I kept it off the list. You did not. So this time it is here for all to see and you may do what ever you wish... If you wish to resist advise it is up to you. I believe this will be the last I have to say about the problem. Those that use AOL do so because they like it. Personally I don't... But that is your business and none of mine. Three pages of e-mail content on my computer is my business, and, if you persist in sending the HTML trash, on the WW I site, I will simply delete without reading. You may be stubborn, obtuse or what ever you wish, but, those that resist help don't, perhaps, deserve any. If you feel picked on that has to be your problem too. END Lee M. Stephendigiacomo@aol.com wrote: > On my machine I click the EDIT and open it. > Great. You click on EDIT whrere? > > You must think me remarkably obtuse to have resisted your suggestion > to read the FAQ. Ou contrar, my good man; I have indeed. The > information is for Outlook Express and might prove of some use . . . > were I using Outlook Express. Ah, but we have already visited this > no? > Thanks, > Steve > > In a message dated 9-28-01 12:16:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > lemen@x25.net writes: > > > >> The method of changing is listed in the FAQ for the wwi Web site >> and it was put in there by Matt Bittner several months ago. I am >> sure he can help if you ask. >> >> Lee M. > > > > > Stephen di Giacomo > Enfield, Connecticut > stephendigiacomo@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:22:39 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: RE: Mr Kit Paint Source Message-ID: <126.4c9ee67.28e5e1b0@aol.com> In a message dated Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:08:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Rory Goodwin writes: > When was this Caproni kit released & how much? How does it compare to the Meikraft kit? > > Do you have the drawings from the Italian Windsock issue? > Shane mentioned that the kit has been available for a while. Even thought the kit is mostly brass, the cost is probably it's most significant factor. . . 122 British pounds from Aeroclub! Just to avoid the rush of queries from list members wanting to know how to get one, you can order the Aeroclub catalog as an email attachment from: aeromail@compuserve.com. I don't have the Windsock "Italian" issue. . . wish I did. Ray Rimell's review of the kit is contained in Vol. 15, No.6, Nov/Dec 1999. I obtained plans from WWI AERO and recopied them to 1/48 scale. They are by Zeitschrift fur Flugtechnik und Motorluft-Schiffahrt, and of course, in German. The engine manual, Motore Di Aviazione "Isotta Fraschini" Tipo V4B 150/160 HP, of course, is in Italian, so I have had to invest in a couple of dictionaries. The url I have for the WWI AERO documents listing is over a year old so it may or may not work: http://www.wwlaeroplanesinc.org/docs/materials%20list.htm. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:31:21 -0500 From: Peter Mullin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: <3BB489BA.D41AF82A@biocomp.unl.edu> Michael > Has anyone attempted the Pegasus version of this kit? Is the Datafile > helpful in explaining the early and late versions or can I make do with the > Squadron publication? Well, I'm (sort of...) working on this kit right now, but about all I've managed to do so far is carve a couple of struts out of bamboo (mind you, they're _really_ nice struts!)...I just didn't fancy messing arond with the plastic strut material. I've got the Squadron DH2 in Action pub and the most useful thing for me about it is that it really drives home the point that each of these aircraft was essentially unique: the gravity tank was placed just about anywhere, there was great variation in style of ammo bins, and so on and on. I was intrigued by the machine with the Prieur rockets mounted, as shown in the Squadron book (actually more intrigued by the other DH2 that is rumored to have had 'em) and thought I would build that up...the thing is, I don't feel the Squadron pub has enough information to do an accurate build, so I ordered the datafile and am waiting on that. But that's all right, as I have 11 more struts to carve...also, the nacelle molding is kind of...er...lumpy, so I've got a bit of carving to do there, as well! > Where do I obtain a 4-blade propeller for the DH2 in 1/72nd scale? While you're asking, I'll add a couple of other questions: are there 1/72 rockets available out there, or should I just make some? And does anyone make RFC air/ground crew figures in small scale? -- Peter Mullin Department of Plant Pathology University of Nebraska-Lincoln 406 Plant Sciences Hall Lincoln, NE 68583-0722 (402) 472-5770 FAX: (402) 472-2853 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:31:47 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Mr Kit Paints Message-ID: <3BB489D3.73312243@dial.pipex.com> With regard to the recent discussions, one point for those of us that use good old fashioned paint brushed, I have found that the Mr Kit paints are very sensitive to the SHAPE of brush used. For many years, I've used flat, chisel shaped brushes for painting larger areas on models. With Mr Kit, I was finding I needed 6 or 7 coats to get good solid colour. I then tried a round brush, and found I got the same level of coverage with just a couple of coats. In spite of the coverage problems, I still like the finish this paint gives - any tips to varnishing ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 15:56:23 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nie.24/27 making the conversion Message-ID: <3BB48F97.A39C9CAA@dial.pipex.com> dfernet0 wrote: > This thread about the 27 makes me wonder on how to make the conversion of > the faired fuselage... > Sounds OK to me. My dream is that Mr Tamyia or Mr Hasegawa remembers that the Japanese licence built Nie 24s as the Ko3......... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:44:31 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: <001001c14834$77852bc0$fa0101c0@grahamh> Michael wrote; < To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: DH2 - Pegasus and The Knight's Tale Message-ID: >From: Peter Mullin >While you're asking, I'll add a couple of other questions: are there >1/72 >rockets available out there, or should I just make some? And >does anyone >make RFC air/ground crew figures in small scale? > Peter: Thanks for your response. I was considering the Le Prieur rocket version and I was going to use those left over from my Toko Nieuport 16c. That kit was on sale from Squadron for about $5 and can be had for even less from NKR Models - reissued under the Eastern Express label. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3758 **********************