WWI Digest 3754 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: brent's nieuport by "Brent Theobald" 2) Re: Language on the List/Stay OT by "Neil Eddy" 3) Re: Language on the List/Stay OT by "Neil Eddy" 4) Re: WWI digest 3753 by BoneHeadMG@aol.com 5) Re: about some careless remarks by "Gaston Graf" 6) Re: How many? by Volker Haeusler 7) =?big5?Q?=A4=E9=BC@VCD...=C3=F6=AF=B8=ABe=B2M=AD=DC=AFS=BD=E6......,=AD=CB=BC=C6=ADp=AE=C9=A4=A4?= by ¤p«Ç@ms51.hinet.net 8) Re: How many? by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 9) RE: Italian Nieuport Help by "Nigel Rayner" 10) Re: Hobbycraft SPADs Quick In-Box Review by Todd Hayes 11) Re: I've just noticed.... by "John C Glaser" 12) Re: I've just noticed.... by Allan Wright 13) Anyone Want to Build a Model? by "Brent Theobald" 14) HB Tailfeathers by "Steven Perry" 15) RE: Nie. 28 cowl slots by "Muth and Zulick" 16) RE: Eye on Collishaw by "Muth and Zulick" 17) Woohoo by "Bob Pearson" 18) RE: Anyone Want to Build a Model? by "Mark Kirkbride" 19) RE: Eye on Collishaw by "Bob Pearson" 20) RE: Eye on Collishaw by "Graham Hunter" 21) RE: Anyone Want to Build a Model? by "Brent Theobald" 22) Re: Resin Heaven today by "Pedro Soares" 23) Re: I've just noticed.... by "Gaston Graf" 24) Re: Another Coo-eee... by "cameron rile" 25) Re: publication by "Pedro Soares" 26) RE: publication by Shane Weier 27) Re: Language on the List by Shane Weier 28) Re: Shuttleworth Visit by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:54:43 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: brent's nieuport Message-ID: Howdy! D'oh! Yup, the Toko Nieuport 11/16 is the one I'm talking about. I get in trouble every time I shoot from the hip. Sheesh! Thanks for catching that. I'm not going to correct anything untill Bittner reads it though. Most likely he'll find the rest of the errors. :-) Later! Brent >From: "dfernet0" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] brent's nieuport >Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:09:29 -0400 (EDT) > >Brent! you wrote on your review: >"The fuselage is a direct copy of the Toko kit. Even the alignment pins are >still there. Some clean up will be required on the fuselage before painting >and assembly can begin. There were a few small pin holes too. The detail >parts are direct copies of the Toko kit too" > >Toko has no type 17 on their "dêpot" but a 11 and a 16. Are you referring >to >these? >D. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 03:01:29 +1000 From: "Neil Eddy" To: Subject: Re: Language on the List/Stay OT Message-ID: <005901c146ac$e33f9a00$e82432d2@mannock> > Personally people, I think we would not have a fraction of the problems we > have if people would just stay OT and quit sending all the other silly stuff > that they could do off list. Jon; I think you're quite right to say this. I agree that personal views should be mostly left off the list. I'm not sure if the comments re language used on list has anything to do with the comments I made to Stephen earlier, but if it has and I have caused offence to other list members then I apologise sincerely to any I offended. All I'll say about what I said is that I want to see the list discuss modelling and not be used as a vehicle for political platforms (recent posts around Sept 11 excepted) and that if people have things to say to each other they take it off list and don't keep on sniping. I guess I lost my patience and wrote what I wrote. However, I do think humours Ok as it helps people to get to know one another. Sorry again Neil E. (I missed some of the posts on this topic as I have only recently resubbed from Lurk to direct at home). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 03:03:44 +1000 From: "Neil Eddy" To: Subject: Re: Language on the List/Stay OT Message-ID: <000e01c146ad$3424d480$e82432d2@mannock> ps. I'm off to bed now as its 3.00am here ....work in the morning! Neil E. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:46:35 EDT From: BoneHeadMG@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 3753 Message-ID: <90.1a75b46d.28e36e7b@aol.com> Hello All, << Is the Hobbycraft Spad kit a scaled down version of the Revell 1/28 kit (like their Sopwith Camel) or an all new tooling? >> Yeah!! Inquiring minds want to know! Hopefully, it is based on the Revell kit. I don't have a lot of trust in Hobbycraft's pattern makers...... For those who are interested in figures, I have just started a 54mm (1/32) scale figure of Frank Luke, wounded and firing his pistol at the unseen huns. This will be the second figure in a series that will be available from a major European figure manufacturer. I could say more, but then I would have to kill you all! I have always wanted to do a diorama of Luke making his last stand next to his shot up Spad. He died like a true Western desperado, with his boots on and gun blazing! Now Hobbycraft went and made a kit to go with my figure! The question is, should I thank them, or just grunt and walk away? Speaking of 1/32 scale aircraft, I just got the Battleaxe 1/32 Fokker DVII in the mail. Well, it appears to deserve half a grunt, at least. The main components appear usable, but things like the prop, engine and interior details are just abysmal. Then there is that very loud lozenge decal that looks like it would be more appropriate hanging on the wall of my pungent smoke filled bedroom, with the blacklights, lava lamps and Black Sabbath blasting at full volume.......... Aaaahh, yes, for the memories of my misspent youth!!! Dang, am I THAT old!!!???? *oP Anyway, my question about the DVII is: is anybody going to come up with some aftermarket stuff to help this sad puppy along? Decent Lozenge decals are needed at the very least. I wouldn't mind a decent Mercedes and prop either......... Any clues out there???? Cheers!! Mike Good ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:15:41 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: about some careless remarks Message-ID: > > The international comradrie represented by this list would have been > impossible in 1914 even if the technology had been available. The > attitudes > of people then would not have allowed it. Horrible wars have been > fought in > the interim and attitudes have changed. We are the beneficiaries of that > sacrifice. Let's respect that and more importantly, lets respect > one another > and keep national and racial references positive. We have far to much to > loose if we don't. > sp > You speak right out of my heart, Steven. Thank you! Gaston ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:57:45 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many? Message-ID: Dennis, "I thought I was well along but then got my bubble burst. I would have to live to only about 175 years to get to 500. But 1000. I don't think I can last that long." I´m afraid the truth is even worse: If I´m not completely wrong, the minimum number of different aircraft types (only those flown, but including prototypes/one offs and the frequently neglected seaplanes and trainers) adds up to an even higher number: France 350 Germany 480 Great Britain 280+ Austria 150+ (including seaplanes, not shown in the FMP AH book) US 60+ (actually *many* more, I guess - counting 1914 to 1918, not 17/18) Russia 50+ (incl. those based on foreign designs, like Lebed) Italy 50+ plus the odd Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Swiss, Belgian and Mexican design. Grand total most probably in the region of 1.500 designs build and flown. Source for my guess (it´s not more than that): FMP French Aircraft, Putnam German Aircraft of WW I, Putnam British Aeroplanes 1914-1918, FMP AH Aircraft and Schupita "Die Oesterr.-Ung. Seeflieger", Putnam US Military aircraft since 1908, Osprey Encyclopedia of Russian Aircraft, guess on Italian aircraft only. Well, I guess that should keep you busy for a few years... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 02:28:12 +0800 (CST) From: ¤p«Ç@ms51.hinet.net Subject: =?big5?Q?=A4=E9=BC@VCD...=C3=F6=AF=B8=ABe=B2M=AD=DC=AFS=BD=E6......,=AD=CB=BC=C6=ADp=AE=C9=A4=A4?= Message-ID: ¤é¼@VCD...Ãö¯¸«e²M­Ü¯S½æ......,­Ë¼Æ­p®É¤¤ http://www.150.com.tw ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:43:18 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: How many? Message-ID: <3BB221C6.C1F6B7BE@mars.ark.com> Depends if you are limiting it to fighters, and how you define 'types'. Uggie said "different aircraft" - not just fighters so I would gestimate at somewhere nearer 3000 types (not including pre-war ones used after the war started). There were 137 different known Taubes (according to Dove of War), and that was before even getting into the multitudes of 2 seat biplanes the Germans produced. My web site has 219 distinct types of WW1 era aircraft, but only 8 Tauben (or 5.8% of known types). Assuming for a moment were have a representative sample, that should calculate out to 3750 aircraft, however some categories are very sparse, with only 7 of 226 (3.1%) AH aircraft listed, and many countries are poorly documented. The easiest to get numbers for is probably the UK, because its records survive intact. 7 Major countries are involved to greater or lesser degrees (AH, Great Britain, Germany, Italy, US, Russia and France) plus Sweden, Denmark, Japan, Mexico and others also produced a number of different military or training types during the war. Mike F. (Sorry Uggie - looks like you'll have to enlist someone to continue it for the next generation or two to get them all) LEONARDPeterL@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 26/09/01 02:58:48 GMT Daylight Time, Uggies@compuserve.com > writes: > > << How many different aircraft were made in WW1? >> > > I was going to say ask Uggie, he's built most of them. But you ARE Uggie ! > > >>speculation alert<< On first sight 400-500 is an awfully high figure. True > fighter production doesn't really kick off in a big way until 1916. But then > there are five or six countries involved to a greater or lesser degree. That > makes 20-30 per country per year, a number which rises if you allow that > Italy and Russia concentrated on licence production. It does seem rather a > lot. >>speculation off<< > > cheers > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:55:38 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Italian Nieuport Help Message-ID: <000001c146bc$d4c71f60$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Alberto wrote: >As far as I can see, judging from the contemporary pictures of Italian >Ni.17s at my disposal, the latter did not carry those inscriptions anywhere. >Even several machines directly imported from France did not carry the >stencils usually painted under the horizonthal tailplanes leading edges. On >the other hand, machines produced under license by Societ Anonima >Nieuport-Macchi did not have any inscriptions on the white rudder band. Thank you so much Alberto. That's made my life a lot easier, as I would have to have made the serial number (3647) by cutting up the teeny serials Eduard provides. Now you've raised another question - how do I know if 3647 was a Macchi produced machine? The DF is silent on this. Were certain ranges of serials known to be Macchi? Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 12:40:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hobbycraft SPADs Quick In-Box Review Message-ID: <20010926194047.75037.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> At your service when needed, Eric. Todd --- ERIC HIGHT wrote: > brad wrote: > > I just had another quick look and I have to > take back what I said about > >the guns. They're actually not too bad. Besides I > don't think I've ever > >seen PE Vickers, especially in 1/32! > > > >brad, > we offer not only vickers but spandaus, lewis, brit > & french gauge sets, > prop bosses, n&b and of course i can order props > from marty. > regards, > eric > > thanks for the plug todd!! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:11:09 -0500 From: "John C Glaser" To: Subject: Re: I've just noticed.... Message-ID: <002401c146c7$62430480$a3fea8c0@accipitergroup.com> Debris is the residue left in the pan after a roast is cooked. It basically is all the stuff that oozes out during the roasting process, loaded with saturated fats, cholesterol and flavor. Mother's is a cholesterol palace on Poydras Street. Of interesting note is the attention given in the local press to interviewing Cardiologists ding there when their convention is in town. - John -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of dfernet0 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:12 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: I've just noticed.... John wrote: > I can't believe that this list, so hung up on vegemite and now grits, doesn't > wonder on the origin of "debris." EtH and DB know! I know what the dictionary say about the definition of "debris" but what's it's culinary meaning? D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:24:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I've just noticed.... Message-ID: <200109262024.QAA96658@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Gentlemen - FOCUS! Politics, Religion, Currnet Events, Debris and Vegimite really do not belong on the list. Please, modeling content pertaining to WWI subjects only. Thank you, Allan (Is this mic on?) > > Debris is the residue left in the pan after a roast is cooked. It basically > is all the stuff that oozes out during the roasting process, loaded with > saturated fats, cholesterol and flavor. Mother's is a cholesterol palace on > Poydras Street. Of interesting note is the attention given in the local > press to interviewing Cardiologists ding there when their convention is in > town. > > - John > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > dfernet0 > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:12 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: I've just noticed.... > > > John wrote: > > I can't believe that this list, so hung up on vegemite and now grits, > doesn't > > wonder on the origin of "debris." EtH and DB know! > > I know what the dictionary say about the definition of "debris" but what's > it's culinary meaning? > D. > > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:34:49 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Anyone Want to Build a Model? Message-ID: Howdy Gang, I have a Gavia Bristol Scout with some photo-etch from Part. I would like it to be built and reviewed. Wt So, if you would like to try this write me a quick note at brent@rollmodels.com. THanks! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:40:19 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: HB Tailfeathers Message-ID: <003f01c146cb$7596b140$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> I have some modeling success to report. Mishandling led to the tailfeathers of my Eduard HB D.I becoming unusable ,so I had to scratch new ones. I started with 15 thou cores cut to exact size. I transferred the outlines to 5 thou card and lightly drew in the structure, then used a #2 pencil to emboss the structure . These were cut out and used to skin both sides of the core. The skinning was accomplished with double sided tape. I left an eighth inch border without tape. After skinning, the edges were sanded and CA carefuly run along the edge. This was sanded smooth and rounded after the CA set up. The heavy pencil embossing shows through the white card and when sprayed with CDL sufficient to cover the white, yields a piece which is translucent and shows the internal structure. Basically ST. Harry's method and very worth the small amount of extra effort. sp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:45:39 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: RE: Nie. 28 cowl slots Message-ID: <00f801c146cc$342fb8e0$0100005a@ptd.net> I join with Diego on this one....pale yellow. I believe I used a Humbrol "oaK" on my N. 28 that looked good to me. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday,September 25,2001 6:20 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Nie. 28 cowl slots > Riordan! > > Why do museum examples seem to have very pale gray-green wing > undersurfaces? > > In fact I tought that Nie28 had "yellow" linen undersurfaces.... > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:47:17 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: RE: Eye on Collishaw Message-ID: <00fd01c146cc$6e2b78e0$0100005a@ptd.net> Any good books out there is about or by Collishaw? He has alsways been one of my favorites, but other than the standard stuff about the Black flight, I've never read very much about him. I always wondered why he didn't get a VC based on his exploits during the Bloody April time period. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:38:50 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Woohoo Message-ID: <3BB130FA0001C92B@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Just had a parcel delivered from Albatros ... all of their products I was lacking ... 12 Datafiles, 12 mini datafiles, 4 specials and 14 issues of Windsock Life is good again :-) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:58:24 -0700 From: "Mark Kirkbride" To: Subject: RE: Anyone Want to Build a Model? Message-ID: I would love to be a review victim Brent. Just let me know a time frame. Thanx Mark Kirkbride -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Brent Theobald Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Anyone Want to Build a Model? Howdy Gang, I have a Gavia Bristol Scout with some photo-etch from Part. I would like it to be built and reviewed. Wt So, if you would like to try this write me a quick note at brent@rollmodels.com. THanks! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:07:30 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Eye on Collishaw Message-ID: <3BB130FA0001D032@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) There are a couple of books on him .... his autobiography "Air Command" ... good luck finding a copy though, there is also a bound copy of his combat reports with a biography included by the infamous TBA Graves (of PRO theft fame). HE also features in my No.3 Wing article in the 13/4 issue of OTF Like Bishop a lot of what has been written on Collishaw is fiction, and the true story remains to be set in print Bob ---------- >From: "Muth and Zulick" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] RE: Eye on Collishaw >Date: Wed, Sep 26, 2001, 1:45 pm > > Any good books out there is about or by Collishaw? He has alsways been one > of my favorites, but other than the standard stuff about the Black flight, > I've never read very much about him. I always wondered why he didn't get a > VC based on his exploits during the Bloody April time period. > Mike Muth > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:14:33 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Eye on Collishaw Message-ID: <001401c146d0$3dad6440$fa0101c0@grahamh> Collishaw "wrote" a book called Air Command (also titled A Fighter Pilots Story"). It is out of print and the publisher is obscure. I would love to get my hands on a copy of this book! There is a book about Canadian Aces by Charles Boyer that takes you from WWI thru WWII on Collishaw. The main reason he did not receive a VC was due to being a RNAS pilot as opposed to a RFC pilot. He was "nominated" for his attack on a German airfield (similar to Bishop's but verified) when he was flying Camels. But due to the unfavourable view of the RNAS amongst the bureaucrats the VC was down graded to a DSO (or DFC). I said this before about a year ago and that is a book in the calibre of Barker VC should be done on Collishaw. Collishaw survived until 1986. Regards, Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 21:18:09 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Anyone Want to Build a Model? Message-ID: Howdy! Mark says: >I would love to be a review victim Brent. Just let me know a time frame. But I said: >write me a quick note at brent@rollmodels.com. Since you obviously cannot follow instructions I'm afraid you cannot be trusted to write a review. Hah! Just teasing. :-) Please contact me off list. I have some other stuff too. Figures, armor and even a few ships. Anyone else who is interested should feel free to contact me at brent@rollmodels.com Later! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:34:35 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Resin Heaven today Message-ID: <013e01c146d3$09ca9640$497016d5@netcabo.pt> Jon, any chance of you scanning the catalogue? Is it very big? I've tried his site but could not find the catalogue of the vacs. TIA Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 5:44 AM Subject: [WWI] Resin Heaven today > AHHHHHH!!!! I'm in Resin Heaven, Today a small box arrived from > Modellbaustudio Rhein - Ruhr. Detlef sure does carry some beautiful kits, his > Ludemann resins seem to be very well done, I got 4 of them , 1) A.E.G. C.lV, > 2) Lloyd 40.05, 3) Friedrichshafen FF.33h and #4) Otto Doppelddecker so far > the favorite is the Otto, everything is cast nice and thin with crisp detail, > I cannot wait to start her. I also received a Classic planes Blackburn > Triplane vac for only about $7.00 US. His catalog states that he has most > Classic Plane Vac's still available and the prices are right. > For Matt I see he has listed but not yet available a 1/72 Sea-Scout > airship L= 60cm! & includes Metal parts. One kit that I really wanted that he > had was a Breguet M.5. I think this is a Classic planes resin kit, it's a bit > thick and some parts are not to detailed but for 32.90 DM it's a good deal > for a hard to get aircraft. I'll be looking to see how they scale out in the > next few days when I get some breathing time and let anyone who's interested > know how they do. OH yes they are all in 1/72!!!!!!!! One other thing just > to let you know, I did order these in mid JUNE!!!!!!!! > > Best regards, > Jon > Jon V. Theisen > 7532 Lawndale Ave. > Phila., PA 19111-2706 > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:37:06 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: I've just noticed.... Message-ID: > > (Is this mic on?) > Huh - what? Did you say something, pal? Metal rocks! Especially when it's of a vegemite-yellow color and wraps a beautiful LeRhône rotary.... Gasterix - who'll now go hunting for Camels on the cyberfront ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:31:56 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another Coo-eee... Message-ID: <93D00794B0077CE44B2F0E9A14B48A97@cameron.prontomail.com> Hi Dave, >it's made me realize that Cam seems to be among >the missing since I came back online. Noticed your return, I am in digest mode, place work is making demands blah blah blah ...., havent touched platic this month ... but I am still around and kicking :) >I tried to access the AFC site on Xoom but >the URL I have turned up an Error 404. It will return soon with it's own unique URL. Once I get some time and a bit more organized lol. GOod to see you back online Dave. cam ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:53:46 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: publication Message-ID: <003b01c146d5$b7b8bb40$497016d5@netcabo.pt> Olá Martin Teria muito gosto em receber a tua publicação. I replied directly to your e-mail address but the message bounced back. Obrigado Um abraço Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin Afflitto To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:41 AM Subject: [WWI] publication > Hola gente > > Para hispano-lusitano parlantes o cualquiera que entienda el idioma quien > quiera recibir la publicacion " Tela , Madera y Coraje" por internet que me > lo solicite y le sera enviado en parte el texto tiene 206 k las imagenes 7 > Mb por ende va por partes. > espesifique por si se nesesita al guna diferenciacion o tiene coneccion > especial . > > solo se requiere opinion sincera sobre la misma para crecer. > > Hello folks > For Spanish - portuguese o any other person who understands the language and > would like to receive the publication > " Tela , Madera y Coraje" by internet just ask me and i will send it by > bits. > The text has 206 k the images have 7 Mb , that´s why they go by bits. > If you need sth. special just specify it. > > Please give your sincere opinion in order to grow. > > > Martín > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:21:16 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: publication Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD583@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Diego > Coraje means courage, simple as that. See? Spanish isn't a difficult > language at all. We even have here small children speaking it > fairly well > ;-) Amazing what you can teach kids isn't it? Mine speak English, some Italian, some Spanish and are in their second year of studying Korean. It's a pity we adults get less skilled as we get older and start talking rubbish ;-) > Exercise #1: translate "Las riostras del ala superior serán tensadas > uniformemente para evitar el alabeo de los planos de > sustentación" to latin, > using past tense instead of future. Ruddy 'ell. I have enough trouble deciding that it means (approximately) "Tighten the upper stays evenly to prevent warping the wing" (some things are obvious from the words with common roots - "tensados uniformente" looks like "tension uniformly" ,others like "planos de sustentación" in the context should be wings. I may not literally be correct but I expect I'm close - only Latin is a complete blank for me and I'm happy to wait for your imminent translation!) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:28:33 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Language on the List Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD584@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Dave says: >(Who probably knows most of the sweary words in the English > language, and probably could use them all in one sentence whilst rigging > his Albatros model LOL IMHO they're essential, or the glue won't stick. Better than accelerator... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:33:42 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Shuttleworth Visit Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD585@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hans asks: > I know, I am late, Steve! But would it be possible to see > some close-ups > from the Bristol Fighter's strut mess between the fuselage > and the lower > wing?? Despite DF and other pics I never understand that completely. Uh-oh. About 7 years ago I asked that question here, and started something it took 3 1/2 years to finish. 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