WWI Digest 3746 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Gabriele Zenoni's Vehicle Models by philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be (Philippe Spriesterbach) 2) RE: My by "Pedro Soares" 3) RE: RC Fokker by "Tom Solinski" 4) Re: Anatra Anasal by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 5) RE: Art Trivia WAS Re: egg weathering by Shane Weier 6) RE: Video comments by Shane Weier 7) Re: Art Trivia by Shane Weier 8) RE: Video comments by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 9) RE: Video comments by "Brian Nicklas" 10) Cooo-eee...again by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 11) Re: Cooo-eee...again by "Tom Plesha" 12) Re: Cooo-eee...again by "Ross Moorhouse" 13) Re: Cooo-eee...again by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 14) Re: Cooo-eee...again by Shane Weier 15) Re: Cooo-eee...again by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 16) My new site by "Lyle Lamboley" 17) Re: My new site by "Lyle Lamboley" 18) Re: I've just noticed.... by "Steven Perry" 19) Mr Kit Paint by "Tom Plesha" 20) Re: My new site by "Tom Solinski" 21) Re: My new site by "Lyle Lamboley" 22) Re: Anatra Anasal by "Martin Afflitto" 23) Re: My new site by "Tom Plesha" 24) Re: It happened in the night between September 22/23 in the year of 203... by "Martin Afflitto" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:27:29 GMT From: philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be (Philippe Spriesterbach) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gabriele Zenoni's Vehicle Models Message-ID: <3bb0a465.19775742@mail.pi.be> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 12:58:32 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > >> I just added a new gallery to Gabriele Zenoni's page on the >website. Let >> me tell you these are some of the most outstanding scratch-builds I >have >> ever seen. Amazing. > >Really amazing! >Bravo Gabriele! >G. Astonishing, incredible, marvellous !!!!!!! It's The Best models I've ever seen. This men are not human Philippe Spriesterbach philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be http://home.pi.be/~p4u09886 IPMS Belgium Member #F015 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:38:52 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: My Message-ID: <00cc01c14541$4deaaa60$3e7016d5@netcabo.pt> Todd, So Diego and his finger chopper have striked Burlington too? . WW1 aircraft enthusiasts in Burlington > can be counted on one hand with some fingers left over > (the other is my father). > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:11:10 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: RE: RC Fokker Message-ID: <01aa01c14545$f00e1800$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> Allan you have my empathy too. The frustration of seeing your pride and joy no longer flying under your control, waiting for the more than likely enevitable crunch. But as you said now you have the equipment for a newer better kit!. By the way I have most of Peter Rakes 1/9th electric plans if you'd like a copy of any of them. And as for some of the other comments from the listees. Crashing an R/C is a part of the hobby, but it's not a mandatory part of it. I had an Eindecker like plane called an Elder that flew for 12 seasons, before a student pilot did her in. The FANTASTIC improvement in radio and engine (or motor) reliabilty in the last five years alone has made this an almost crashless hobby. You can get into R/C for less than $600.00 USD, and 60% of that amount can be reuseable on your first three models. If you 've always wanted to try it, now's the time to go for it, it's only getting better! Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:47:10 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Anatra Anasal Message-ID: <007901c14531$b4049dc0$0200a8c0@x.pl> > But just for the sake of knowledge, what was the russian version like? > > Pedro I've got 2 schemes: - silver overall, except wooden struts, with IRAS roundels on wings and fuselage (on fuselage exactly in the same place, than in 'red centaur' visible under Polish checkerboard), on rudder vertical strips white/blue/red, looking from bow (fore), wheels covered, also silver, engine without lower cowling and with horseshoe exhaust. (from Russian cardboard model) - warm light green, metal engine cowling also green, but looks little darker, IRAS roundels like above, but also on the rudder, instead of stripes, wheels not covered, engine and exhaust like above (from Polish 'Encyclopedia of Warplanes' book) G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:15:50 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Art Trivia WAS Re: egg weathering Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD56B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hans asks: > ever heard of 'Caput morduum' ? Still in use and available > over here. But > nowadays they do not use the real thing, I hope (?). I cheated on this one - I looked in one of my art books to refresh my memory of the exact composition. Caput Mortum (in English and Italian, old name Colcothar) is another brown made from Iron Sulphate Fe2(SO4)3 according to my book. I can't say I've ever seen it, but the book says it first came into use in Medieval times and out again about the 17th century when oils became common - apparently it's not suitable for use with oil mediums but was widely used in tempera. Not to be confused with Mummy Brown - DV's asphaltum - by the way, despite the apparent Latin connection Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:22:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Video comments Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD56C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Diego says: > Yes, I have experienced some trouble with NTSC encoded > videos, as we use > here the PAL-N system like the european countries. As I have > two PAL-N TV > sets, all that I have experienced is a different colour balance on the > images TV repairmans definition of NTSC "Never The Same Colour" Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:26:24 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Art Trivia Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD56D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> DV, > OK, partially... but it was also produced from ground-up > Egyptian mummies; the resins used > in the wrappings and preservation process gave the resulting > paint a color which was > unobtainable by any other pigment at the time. My memory (and my old book) calls this Mummy brown. Not that I disagree that it's the same stuff since pitch (ie tar) is used in mummification, just that my lecturers and textbooks used the modern name. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:42:58 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: RE: Video comments Message-ID: <001901c1454a$42eb5520$0200a8c0@x.pl> > Diego says: > > we use > > here the PAL-N system like the european countries. Interesting, that my new Finnish Nokia TV set tuned itself automatically as 'Argentinian PAL-N' (I'm using Polish cable TV). (what terribly ot we are...) Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:13:00 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Video comments Message-ID: TV repairmans definition of NTSC "Never The Same Colour" Shane SECAM - System Exactly Contrary to the American Method ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:32:49 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: Hi All; Is the list up at the moment? I logged on this morning and received no messages rather than my usual 444. If the list is up and running, can someone please reply to this post? All the best Neil E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:43:42 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: <000501c14552$bfd92b40$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Neil- Its up. Later Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: [WWI] Cooo-eee...again > Hi All; > > Is the list up at the moment? I logged on this morning and received no > messages rather than my usual 444. If the list is up and running, can > someone please reply to this post? > > All the best > Neil E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:47:53 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: <005301c14553$555f5e00$36000c3f@umber> Yep its up mate. There was a few messages in the last 15 mins ... I had 20 odd waiting for me this morning a 6:45 am here Sydney time. Which is 30 yrs in front of the rest of Australia. ;^)~ Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: [WWI] Cooo-eee...again | Hi All; | | Is the list up at the moment? I logged on this morning and received no | messages rather than my usual 444. If the list is up and running, can | someone please reply to this post? | | All the best | Neil E. | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:10:38 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: Message received Ross except the bit about Sydney, surely you know Melbourne is the capital of the known universe. I used rest mail ack and the world is coming in loud and clear! : )) Neil E. "Ross Moorhouse" Sent by: cc: wwi@wwi-models.or Subject: [WWI] Re: Cooo-eee...again g 25/09/2001 09:47 AM Please respond to wwi Yep its up mate. There was a few messages in the last 15 mins ... I had 20 odd waiting for me this morning a 6:45 am here Sydney time. Which is 30 yrs in front of the rest of Australia. ;^)~ Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: [WWI] Cooo-eee...again | Hi All; | | Is the list up at the moment? I logged on this morning and received no | messages rather than my usual 444. If the list is up and running, can | someone please reply to this post? | | All the best | Neil E. | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:23:51 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD56E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ross, Neil, > Yep its up mate. There was a few messages in the last 15 mins > ... I had 20 > odd waiting for me this morning a 6:45 am here Sydney time. > Which is 30 yrs > in front of the rest of Australia. ;^)~ > >Message received Ross except the bit about Sydney, surely you know >Melbourne is the capital of the known universe. I used rest mail ack and >the world is coming in loud and clear! : )) That's what I like about you Mexicans - unbounded optimism in the face of unlimited contrary evidence. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:12:04 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Cooo-eee...again Message-ID: Shane; Its hard making new jokes about Queensland, they've all been done before! However, I stand by my venerable old father's observation that the reason Queenslanders on his Squadron drank so much was that the beer (that is what you call XXXX isn't it?) up there was so bad, they were enjoying the good stuff when they had the chance, given they had to look forward to a lifetime of XXXX after being demobbed. Also have you jumped on the Brisbane Lions bandwagon yet? If you have, my advice is not to bother as the judgement day is fast approaching.....I have been pressed into service by my partner as a member of the Essendon "Smarmy Army" for the Grand Final.... - afterall anything's better than a Banana bender prancing round with our trophy : ) On a more OT note, I'm putting the finishing touches on my Albatros tonight (undercarriage and exhausts etc) and am having a good read of your Squadron article on the Blue Max SE5a which is my next project.... : ) All the best Neil E. Shane Weier Sent by: cc: wwi@wwi-model Subject: [WWI] Re: Cooo-eee...again s.org 25/09/2001 10:25 AM Please respond to wwi Ross, Neil, > Yep its up mate. There was a few messages in the last 15 mins > ... I had 20 > odd waiting for me this morning a 6:45 am here Sydney time. > Which is 30 yrs > in front of the rest of Australia. ;^)~ > >Message received Ross except the bit about Sydney, surely you know >Melbourne is the capital of the known universe. I used rest mail ack and >the world is coming in loud and clear! : )) That's what I like about you Mexicans - unbounded optimism in the face of unlimited contrary evidence. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:39:27 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: My new site Message-ID: <009101c14562$eef48b80$47f2aec7@lylelamb> Hi Guys, Well, I'm taking the plunge into web stuff and have started my own page....I welcome all comments and suggestions (and yes, there will be pics shortly!). The big D.VII will be a long time in coming, though, as it is still bare bones. The werewolf does give me inspiration to finish it...or else. But how can a painting excude such diabolical power? Of course it could double as some kind of Halloween site as it stands. :-) Cheers, Lyle http://home.earthlink.net/~lamboley1/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:49:53 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Re: My new site Message-ID: <009901c14564$62cc8020$47f2aec7@lylelamb> I cannot claim the artwork as being mine....those talents belong to my father, who was glad to help me out. I'm just a country R/C modeler... Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:20:07 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: I've just noticed.... Message-ID: <008301c14568$a6adae00$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > SP said: > > >> But one more question, what did you have for breakfast?? ;^) > > > >Grits boy, grits! > > ...puts our practice of eating decaying yeast at breakfast into perspective > > Shane Nope, takes black pepper, country ham and redeye gravy to put grits in perspective. Don't hurt none to whistle Dixie neither. sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:22:51 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Mr Kit Paint Message-ID: <001301c14568$fac033a0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi All- Pacific Coast Models is out of a couple of Mr Kit Paints I need: PC-10 and British CDL , I know I would not be able to mix a good match right now. Does anyone know who else may carry this line in the USA? Thanks Tom S.E.MI. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:27:22 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: My new site Message-ID: <001401c14569$9c1096a0$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> Lyle, the link to the page works but the links on the page to your pictures do a "404" file not found. Tom S one of the other flying builders. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lyle Lamboley To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: [WWI] My new site > Hi Guys, > Well, I'm taking the plunge into web stuff and have started my own page....I > welcome all comments and suggestions (and yes, there will be pics shortly!). > The big D.VII will be a long time in coming, though, as it is still bare > bones. The werewolf does give me inspiration to finish it...or else. But > how can a painting excude such diabolical power? > Of course it could double as some kind of Halloween site as it stands. :-) > Cheers, Lyle > http://home.earthlink.net/~lamboley1/index.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:34:06 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Re: My new site Message-ID: <00b501c1456a$ab070b20$47f2aec7@lylelamb> Yep! No pictures yet, but give me a couple of days and something should be up. I'm being lazy tonight and checking out the "other" site...the Aerodrome! Thanks, Tom Lyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Solinski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: My new site > Lyle, the link to the page works but the links on the page to your pictures > do a "404" file not found. > > Tom S one of the other flying builders. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:46:04 -0300 From: "Martin Afflitto" To: Subject: Re: Anatra Anasal Message-ID: Karen Itīs probably because the engine was more powerful and the exhausting smoke would give extra impulse Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Rychlewski To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 1:17 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Anatra Anasal > Grzes > > What a great story! And a cool website too! > > What a pity that Sierra's kit is an Anade instead of an Anasal: I would > love to build that Polish plane. Small correction in the interests of > Western cultural literacy: "pegasus" was a flying horse--the critter on > the Anasal is a "centaur" half-man, half-horse. As he's shown there > shooting a bow and arrow, it might represent the zodiac sign > Sagittarius--do you have any idea of its significance? > > Interesting that the Anasals on the website don't appear to have the > semicircular exhaust collector that I've always seen wrapped around > Russian Anasals--anyone know why? > > Karen > > > > Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote: > > > Pedro! > > > > Make your Anatra Polish! > > > > look this: > > > > http://www.boris.elknet.pl/av_hist/samoloty/i_ws/an_ds/an_ds.htm > > > > Decals for 'red pegasus' are available in Poland - I can send you. > > > > One of that airplanes ('red pegasus') was captured in Wilno > > 19.04.1919. > > Juliusz Gilewicz - Polish pilot who was forced to command Soviet > > unit, was secretely cooperating with Polish High Command. During > > Polish offensive he left in Wilno whole train full of planes in order > > to suply advancing Polish forces in Polish-Bolshevik war. Later > > Gilewicz escaped to Polish forces himself, flying Nieuport 24bis, > > with another plane, Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, with crew of Frenchman > > and white-Russian. After 8 days all remaining members of Soviet > > escadrille followed their commander's example, and escaped to Poles, > > having destroyed remaining airplanes (which were not airworthy at > > that time. so they couldn't escape with them). They were 14 Poles, 1 > > Frenchman, 1 Russian and 1 Georgian, all forced to serve in Soviet > > forces. > > > > Silver Anatra is plane captured firstly by AH forces, and after the > > armistice taken by Poles. > > > > I also have unbuilt cardboard model of IRAS silver Anatra (1/33, > > Russian one), I can write you details of painting, but very > > reluctantly, as I want you to make it Polish :-) > > > > Write me about that EMHAR model more! Has it really transparent > > wheels? > > > > Grzegorz > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:48:01 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: My new site Message-ID: <001901c1456c$7e864dc0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Lyle- Site is neat! I like the wolf. Looking foreward to seeing yours up completely. I'm still playing with getting my site up. Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: [WWI] My new site > Hi Guys, > Well, I'm taking the plunge into web stuff and have started my own page....I > welcome all comments and suggestions (and yes, there will be pics shortly!). > The big D.VII will be a long time in coming, though, as it is still bare > bones. The werewolf does give me inspiration to finish it...or else. But > how can a painting excude such diabolical power? > Of course it could double as some kind of Halloween site as it stands. :-) > Cheers, Lyle > http://home.earthlink.net/~lamboley1/index.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:58:16 -0300 From: "Martin Afflitto" To: Subject: Re: It happened in the night between September 22/23 in the year of 203... Message-ID: O mais grande do mundo!!! as garotas di Ipanema Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Marcio Antonio Campos To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: It happened in the night between September 22/23 in the year of 203... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > > LEONARDPeterL@aol.com > > > > Hey Diego! I thought all the nuts came from > Brazil. > > What??????? > > All the best from Brazil > > Marcio Antonio Campos > Redator do GuiaSP > StarMedia do Brasil > +55 11 30436421 > marcio.campos@starmedia.net > http://www.guiasp.com.br > http://www.guiarj.com.br > http://www.nacidade.com.br > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3746 **********************