WWI Digest 3731 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Wanted: Fok DVII exhaust by "Michael Kendix" 2) Re: Osprey Dr.I Aces book by "Michael Kendix" 3) RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book by "Graham Hunter" 4) DH-10A / RC aircraft by JVT7532@aol.com 5) Re: Wanted: Fok DVII exhaust by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 6) Re: OT in South Africa / UK IPMS Nationals by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 7) RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 8) Fw: DH2 rear fuselage by "James Fahey" 9) "Regular Air Force" ? by "bruce simard" 10) Re: Osprey Dr.I Aces book by Mark Miller 11) RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book by "David Watts" 12) new images by "Graham Hunter" 13) RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book by "Graham Hunter" 14) Re: DH-10A / RC aircraft by "Lyle Lamboley" 15) Re: DH-10A / RC aircraft by KarrArt@aol.com 16) Re: WWI digest 3728 by KarrArt@aol.com 17) Re: Brass/copper paints? by KarrArt@aol.com 18) RE: Goering was Re: WW:re Gaston's views by "Gaston Graf" 19) hi by go@go.com 20) Re: Wanted: Fok DVII exhaust by David Fleming 21) Once again by "Matt Bittner" 22) Omega Models by Todd Hayes 23) RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book by "David Watts" 24) RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book by Shane Weier 25) Re: Once again by "Pedro Soares" 26) RE: Simulation, not duplication. by Shane Weier 27) Greetings yet again ! by "Brian Nicklas" 28) The BBQ site has moved ... by "Ross Moorhouse" 29) Re: Turkish planes and markings ... by Rory Goodwin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:19:00 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Wanted: Fok DVII exhaust Message-ID: >From: "David C. Fletcher" >Harris, Mack wrote: > > > Peter, maybe you can answer my question about fuse wire. Where do >you >get > > it? > >We covered this topic extensively a couple of years ago - so it's >somewhere in the archives! It isn't available in North America but >there is a craft wire available which does the same job. Mack: David is correct about the fusewire being available in the US. I recall my parents' house in Edgware, Middlesex still had its 1938 wiring job when we sold the house in 1989. It was a typical semi-detached (duplex) with the fuse box located in a cupboard (closet) under the stairs. If a fue blew, my Dad would get out a torch (flashlight) and reattach the length of fusewire between the two screws. I heard the house was re-wired, as it should have been years ago, so no more need for fusewire. I use the soldering material that David mentioned, which I obtained from Radio Shack on a roll the size of a small roll of sticky tape - enough exhaust model manufacturing material to make several of my own personal flying corps. Also, in the hardware store, there are various gauges of copper wire, which is also nice and bendable. So, no need to send out to the UK, rather, try taking a trip to Hardware City and Radio Shack. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:24:53 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Message-ID: >From: "David Watts" > >I was wondering has anyone taken a look at the "new" Osprey Fokker >Dr.I >Aces book? It sells for $18.95. Dave: Great Models has it for $14.70. Please see: http://www.greatmodels.com Squadron flyer has it on sale for $15.97 Rosemont has them for $16.99 A number of folks on the list have purchased it so they should be able to tell you about content. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:29:47 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Message-ID: <000d01c14139$1060b880$fa0101c0@grahamh> I picked it up two weeks ago and I find it to be pretty good. It has the standard Osprey editing mistakes. I am not totally fluent in my knowledge of the Dr.I so I can't say if some of the picture captions are accurate or not. There are 40 colour profiles plus two pages of wings, tails, and cowls in colour. I have read about one-quarter of the book so far and it is much the same as their past volumes. Definately worth the price. Graham H. Good to hear from you again Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:42:11 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: DH-10A / RC aircraft Message-ID: <8f.101b51da.28da4103@aol.com> In a message dated 9/19/2001 2:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wwi@wwi-models.org writes: << > SUBJECT: DH-10 Hi John, there is one on ebay-around 25.00 Best regards, Dale >> Thanks Dale, Candice has agreed to sell me one of her spares, now If I can just do as good a job as Ken Z has done with his I will be very pleased indeed. Very nice job BTW Ken, I will be picking your brain for info when I get ready to tackle this kit. It sure looks like it's a big mother to display, where did you wind up putting it? For that matter where do people display their larger models, hang'em from the ceiling, big glass cases? Where do you people that build the larger scale models put them, inquiring minds want to know? I of course have a 10' x 14' shed where I keep all my 1/7 to 1/4 scale RC airplanes so they are not on display except when their at the flying field. I did have a bit of fun today flying my Fokker D.Vll against a Sopwith Camel built from a VK kit. It's a pretty nice flyer and I just may build mine someday soon. The Fokker is pretty hairy on takeoffs and is all over the field bouncing on the grass like crazy but once in the air she flies beautifully. Now landings are another matter altogether and I still do three bounce landings with her. Anyone else on the list flying RC aircraft? Have fun and keep on modeling. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:51:17 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Wanted: Fok DVII exhaust Message-ID: <62.1423d0b8.28da4325@aol.com> Actually it's two three into one systems which join at the eflux. For the 1/28 version I used plastic coated florists wire as it had the bulk I needed, was relatively easy to cut as compared with thicker wire and culd be bent with just a pair of plyers. Each part was made seperately starting with the two longest pipes ( those for the middle two cylinders) too which the shorter pipes were super glued hopefuly giving the impression of a weld. I could have made a jig for all of this but couldn' t be, as we say up't'north, @r$ed. the difficult bit was getting the angles right at the join for which a motor tool was invaluable. Last ime I looked there was a picture of the assembly on the Copper State site which should make clear what the thing looks like. Florists wire would also do the trick in 1/48 I should think, but you may have suitable copper wire hanging around the house. I too removed the panels on my 1/48 DVII but only the top ones. From your remarks I presume you will also be removing the side panels. Masochist! ;) cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:52:38 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT in South Africa / UK IPMS Nationals Message-ID: In a message dated 19/09/01 17:02:31 GMT Daylight Time, dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com writes: << What about the Bleriot XI in the foyer? >> Well done David. I wondered who would be first to spot that ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:50:44 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Message-ID: Dave: I'm about half-way through it, having read about the F.1s and the Jasta 11 aces. Now I'm about to read about the rest. Franks and VanWyngarden do a good job in the writing. There are some good selections of first hand combat reports that give the prose some immediacy. I felt it was worth my money. BTW, they stay on the fence when it comes to the Voss Cowl question. There are some very nice color profiles in the same manner as the Albatros and Nieuport books. While other DR1 tomes (Rimmel, Nowarra and Imrie) focus on the aircraft, the Osprey book focuses on the pilots who flew them. The authors even try to indicate how many victories were achieved by each ace while using the triplane. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:57:36 +1200 From: "James Fahey" To: Subject: Fw: DH2 rear fuselage Message-ID: <000601c1413c$f458fb80$d790a7cb@computer> I sent this post to the List four days ago but got no response. In the hope it was lost in the events of the last week I am resending it. There are two kits stalled on the workbench waiting on this! TIA James ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Fahey" To: Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: DH2 rear fuselage > Greetings All > Back a couple of weeks when there was some discussion on the list about > building/correcting some of the old OOP Airfix and Revell kits, it was > suggested that somebody should write some articles. Seeing as how I have a > few of these to build I thought I would have a go at the Revell Airco DH2 as > a 'compare & contrast' with the Pegasus Airco DH2, and build them together. > > I only have the Squadron booklet on the DH2 to refer to - is this a reliable > source? There are a few areas which are not well covered - a) the fuselage > at the back of the engine, b) the shape of the hole in the centre section of > the lower wing, including the angle of the slanting 'roof' over the hole. I > would appreciate it if someone with better knowledge could explain how it > should look. The Revell kit got all this completely wrong from what I can > tell. > > The Pegasus kit is better but appears to have a gap behind the engine, above > the crankshaft mounting. Is this correct or should the whole of the back > end be closed off from the oil tank etc. > > Judging from various photos the hole in the centre section of the lower wing > is the whole area between the two wing spars. Is this correct? > > Whereabouts does the slanting roof over this hole meet the back edge of the > fuselage? Should there be a back plate between the edge of the slanting roof > and the engine mounting? > > It is all kind of hard to describe but I hope this makes sense. All helpful > suggestions will be gratefully received. > Cheers > James F > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:10:48 -0400 From: "bruce simard" To: Subject: "Regular Air Force" ? Message-ID: <002801c1413e$cbebf1a0$853aaf3f@22by501> > > His most memorable statement was that "Any fighter > > pilot who says dat he never landed mit shit in der > > britchen is a BLOODY liar! .. Hmmmmmm, was this the origin of the term "Regular Air Force"??? Or perhaps Fokker's inspiration for "streaked" camouflage ???? Sorry, just couldn't resist ! .. > I was wondering has anyone taken a look at the "new" Osprey Fokker Dr.I Aces > book? It sells for $18.95. .. Dave, I have gotten my copy. I haven't had a chance to digest it all as of yet. But a "quick" review: the book is 96 pages with approximately 12 pages of color profiles. As usual, there is always some opinions on the colors shown. But for my money, I will say I'm extremely happy with both this and the Spad VII book, well worth the price. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Sep 2001 12:09:49 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Message-ID: <20010919190949.7959.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Wed, 19 September 2001, "David Watts" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering has anyone taken a look at the "new" Osprey Fokker Dr.I Aces > book? It sells for $18.95. > > Thanks for any input. > > Best, > Dave Dave There is a similar thread at the Aerodrome forum, and I just posted this reply this morning - I guess it kinda stupid but I feel like I'm cheating when I post the same thing twice - hence this annoucment :-) I think these books are great. And I would definitely reccommend them to anyone. I'm no expert as to historical accuracy but the color profiles are very nicely done. However - I'm not to fond of the plan view drawings. The entire drawing is done with one extremly thin line weight. Like the artist forgot all his pens except a 000 The data itself could be dead on, I can't say because I haven't checked it. But the presentation could be FAR better. I'm also disapointed that they don't provide cross sections -and a little structural data would have been nice. well... perhaps nobody else cares, I do this sort of thing for a living and a thin line DOES give you more accuracy. Don't let this stop you from buying these books - they are a great resource. Mark Miller Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:08:32 -0500 From: "David Watts" To: Subject: RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Message-ID: Thanks Mike for the heads up on where to buy it for the best price, and thanks Graham for the quick review. I'm going to order it, as the price is so good and it has the profiles. Its' got to be worth the price! I've been lying low, working away with real life day-to-day. I'm working on a Fokker book myself. I'm trying to get the contracts finalized at this time. I hope to have it in the works by springtime. I think the material will be of great interest for the "hard-core" Fokker folks. Best, Dave W. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Graham Hunter Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book I picked it up two weeks ago and I find it to be pretty good. It has the standard Osprey editing mistakes. I am not totally fluent in my knowledge of the Dr.I so I can't say if some of the picture captions are accurate or not. There are 40 colour profiles plus two pages of wings, tails, and cowls in colour. I have read about one-quarter of the book so far and it is much the same as their past volumes. Definately worth the price. Graham H. Good to hear from you again Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:14:31 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: new images Message-ID: <000501c1412e$8c8c71c0$fa0101c0@grahamh> Well some more excellent model work. Ken that is a fantastic DH10 :-) Sandy your Central Powers additions are beautiful :-) Allen that's a great D.VIII nice work indeed :-) I didn't have time to read about it. Is that colour scheme an extrapolation of what MvR would have flown. Graham H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:42:37 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Message-ID: <001d01c14143$3d05f760$fa0101c0@grahamh> Dave, What about the Fokker D.VII. Graham ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:29:29 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Re: DH-10A / RC aircraft Message-ID: <005701c14141$71805500$35faaec7@lylelamb> Hi Jon, >For that matter where do people display > their larger models, hang'em from the ceiling, big glass cases? Where do you > people that build the larger scale models put them, inquiring minds want to > know? I of course have a 10' x 14' shed where I keep all my 1/7 to 1/4 scale > RC airplanes so they are not on display except when their at the flying > field. Lucky! Mine reside standing on their noses under my drafting table, collecting dust until flying time. I also hang them from my bedroom ceiling. That 1/4 scale Fokker D.VII is going to need a room of its own when it's finished. It's nice when the parts are bare with no fabric on them, then you can hang them from any convenient nail in a wall. The wings are propped up against a bookshelf, moved when necessary. > I did have a bit of fun today flying my Fokker D.Vll against a Sopwith > Camel built from a VK kit. It's a pretty nice flyer and I just may build mine > someday soon. The Fokker is pretty hairy on takeoffs and is all over the > field bouncing on the grass like crazy but once in the air she flies > beautifully. Now landings are another matter altogether and I still do three > bounce landings with her. I have to give full right rudder and then it's still a crazy bird on takeoff. Indeed a great flyer but landings are just as you describe. My D.VIII is much better behaved but still a bit wild on landings. I wonder if that Camel is better...glad to hear you had a ball at the field. You should build that Camel! Take care, Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:28:34 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: DH-10A / RC aircraft Message-ID: <9f.1b6f40c0.28da4be2@aol.com> In a message dated 9/19/01 11:45:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, JVT7532@aol.com writes: << For that matter where do people display their larger models, hang'em from the ceiling, big glass cases? Where do you people that build the larger scale models put them, inquiring minds want to know? >> Mostly I plop them down somewhere that's guaranteed to be the dustiest place in the house -the 0/400 is decaying on top of an old dresser. Or the garage- my 1/32 Blenheim is squatting on a tool bench. I've been lucky dumping my stuff into various museums, which means I can still visit this junk, yet I don't have to worry about it. RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:28:36 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 3728 Message-ID: <147.1ce6840.28da4be4@aol.com> In a message dated 9/18/01 8:10:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dave@vga-graphics.com writes: << Well, this holds true for most of us. RK and Shane of course simply use their transmogrifiers to shrink actual a/c, so in point of fact the mags do work on their "models". DV >> I think mine broke. The other day it spit out a half slice of pizza covered in feathers. Something must've gotten into it. Concerning the whole idea of what to include in a model, and what degree of accuracy to shoot for.....well- it's another case of Dicta Ira. Personally, I've not had enough fun until I've had at least one episode of madness induced by lack of information! My secret little psychotic standard is to imagine some archaeolist in the far future finding a model of mine, and it will be the only remaining evidence of what some object actually looked like. It may sound very egotistical to think this way, but it's really only a mental tool used to make the work better! RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:28:37 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brass/copper paints? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/18/01 6:49:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, petrov26@home.com writes: << I find that the old testor's enamel brass and copper paints in the little bottles have always worked the best for me. They tend to take a long time to dry though. Patrick Gilmore >> The old Testors copper is hard to beat. The drying time can be a drawback, but I've got a drying box cobbled up from 1/8" wall paneling, a little over a cubic foot in volume, warmed with a 75 watt bulb inside- and this helps a lot. RK ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:51:01 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Goering was Re: WW:re Gaston's views Message-ID: Goering was interned in Luxembourg for a while... yeah yeah I know - it is ot again....pfffffffffff............ Gasterix > I met a man several years ago who was an American GI during WW2. > His division captured Goering. 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Fletcher" > >Harris, Mack wrote: > > > > > Peter, maybe you can answer my question about fuse wire. Where do >you > >get > > > it? > > > >We covered this topic extensively a couple of years ago - so it's > >somewhere in the archives! It isn't available in North America but > >there is a craft wire available which does the same job. > > Mack: > > David is correct about the fusewire being available in the US. I recall my > parents' house in Edgware, Middlesex still had its 1938 wiring job when we > sold the house in 1989. It was a typical semi-detached (duplex) with the > fuse box located in a cupboard (closet) under the stairs. If a fue blew, my > Dad would get out a torch (flashlight) and reattach the length of fusewire > between the two screws. > I heard the house was re-wired, as it should have been years ago, so no more > need for fusewire. Still in use until quite recently - my house was built in 78 and has a fuse box rather than circuit breakers. D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:45:45 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Once again Message-ID: <200109192144.f8JLi0304981@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> This is probably the last time. :`-( Off to Ohio again... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Omega Models Message-ID: <20010919212212.89367.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi y'all, I received some Omega kits today from Lubos. These are some really beautiful kits. Gives me great hope for the 1:48 Moska. Todd __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:02:40 -0500 From: "David Watts" To: Subject: RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Message-ID: Ahhhhh, what do you mean, "What about the Fokker D.VII."? Dave -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Graham Hunter Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Dave, What about the Fokker D.VII. Graham ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:35:19 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Osprey Dr.I Aces book Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD52E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Graham says: >Definately worth the price. Definitely. Mine has now been read through quickly, and without reference to my other books. However... >It has the standard Osprey editing mistakes. Yes. For example (and I don't have mine here at work - my first day back in 4 weeks) there are two Jasta 19 machines which are quoted as having the same serial number, but different work numbers. A quick look at the profiles show personal markings which couldn't be overpainted so they aren't the same aircraft with different pilots (any anyway - different werke number) I dare say that it'll be possible to pick through and find a few other similar errors. But hell, unlike the Squadron Signal books it isn't possible to read it through and get writers cramp noting the stuffups. IMHO this (and the other three released to date) are the best thing ever released in WW1 reference *Because they are part of a series widely available and known to NON WW1 modellers* and present a great temptation to them. >There are 40 colour profiles plus two pages of wings, tails, and cowls in >colour. I have read about one-quarter of the book so far and it is much the >same as their past volumes. Quite nicely done - though inferior to Bob's work ;-) If I had a *very minor* gripe it'd be that the streaky dope is rendered quite similarly (but not identical) on almost every aircraft, and doesn't show the range from heavilly streaked to very lightly streaked that the real things evince. NOT that I've compared all of them to photos yet though! All in all, worth the A$32 I paid Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:59:49 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Once again Message-ID: <000d01c1415e$c8eb9c60$cb7016d5@netcabo.pt> Be strong, friend. My thoughts are with you. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: [WWI] Once again > This is probably the last time. :`-( Off to Ohio again... > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:57:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Simulation, not duplication. Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD52F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Nigel suggests: >Yessss! Does the wood in the cockpit LOOK like ply? Then it's ply, >and spending a week researching which KIND of ply is wasting time >that could be more profitably spent. So if *I* want to know what KIND of ply I'm wasting time? I must try to figure out how to profitably spend my leisure time. I'd hate to be thought to be wasting it doing what *I* want to do. >(I reserve the right to be wrong...I just have limited time in my life.) Ditto. And I promise not to make anyone else give a damn about my ply either. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:16:42 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Greetings yet again ! Message-ID: Hi guys, Back on list after a bit of time off. I really should have stayed away and kept cleaning up my email and other things on the computer, but in light of recent events I need to be able to retreat into 1914-1918 in 1/72. No news from my workbench to speak of, the workshop gained some Roden Fokker D.VIIs, but as yet the issuance of funds for a Gotha remains a future goal. No progress by the workers on any of the Dr.Is or Alb. D.Vs either. Work-wise, I have seen a jump in Albatros D.Va "Stropp" info requests, but alas, the book remains out of print. Most of the requests seem to be from the R/C crowd, vis the usual bunch of styrene junkies that I hang out with ;-) Cheers! Brian Nicklas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:51:07 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: The BBQ site has moved ... Message-ID: <00f201c1416e$56fe5100$25ef3c3f@umber> I have had to move the site ... http://www.geocities.com/y_future/ please adjust your bookmarks. Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:32:10 -0700 From: Rory Goodwin To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Turkish planes and markings ... Message-ID: <3BA9633A.4A3AA6C8@earthlink.net> However, black or red squares with & w/o white borders are pretty easy to fake with either decal film or masking... Todd Hayes wrote: > Ross, > > Americal Gryphon does Turkinsh national markings > including star and crescent insignia. I'm not sure > what the sheet number is. > > Todd > > --- Ross Moorhouse wrote: > > rmoorhouse@ozemail.com.au which is the address you > > meant ??? > > > > Ross > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rory Goodwin" > > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:13 PM > > Subject: [WWI] Re: Turkish planes and markings ... > > > > > > | Post your address. I have accumulated some > > reference materials that > > you'll be > > | interested in. > > | > > | Ross Moorhouse wrote: > > | > > | > Rory, > > | > > > | > I haven't seen either. Only came back into the > > hobby this year. :) So > > have > > | > so much to catch up on. ;) > > | > > > | > Ross > > | > > > | > ----- Original Message ----- > > | > From: "Rory Goodwin" > > | > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > > > | > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:56 PM > > | > Subject: [WWI] Re: Turkish planes and markings > > ... > > | > > > | > | Ross, if you haven't seen them already, there > > was a series of OT > > articles > > | > in > > | > | Air Enthusiast a few years back entitled > > "Young Turks", and way back > > in > > | > C&C > > | > | on the history of the Ottoman Air Force. List > > member by the name of > > Mark > > | > | (last name escapes me) used to be regular > > fiend for German Pasha units > > and > > | > | WWI Turkish Aviation. > > | > | > > | > | Ross Moorhouse wrote: > > | > | > > | > | > I dont know if these links have been shown > > here before but I found > > these > > | > | > while surfing for info on the Turkish > > Airforce during WWI. > > | > | > > > | > | > > > http://turkhavakuvvetleri.tripod.com/aircrafts.htm > > some good photos > > | > here > > | > | > too. > > | > | > > > | > | > > > http://turkhavakuvvetleri.tripod.com/markings.htm > > | > | > > > | > | > Both links came from this site > > http://turkhavakuvvetleri.tripod.com/ > > | > | > > > | > | > Cheers > > | > | > > > | > | > Ross > > | > | > > | > | > > | > > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3731 **********************