WWI Digest 3726 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: DH-10 by "David Vosburgh" 2) Re: warped plastic by Sanjeev Hirve 3) Re: Qn about photo in Fighters by "David Vosburgh" 4) Re: Qn about photo in Fighters by "Michael Kendix" 5) Re: "Legs" headed home wasRe: Looking Up by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Re: German Unifrom Help by Sixmilfigs@cs.com 7) RE: In Australia who knows where to get "Windsock" publicat by "Ross Moorhouse" 8) The "D" word by "Steven Perry" 9) by =?iso-8859-1?q?jim=20Prendergast?= 10) Re: The "D" word by "Lyle Lamboley" 11) Re: Nieuport Cowl Question by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: DH-10 by "Matt Bittner" 13) RE: Back by "Matt Bittner" 14) Virus Alert by "Brad & Merville" 15) Re: Qn about photo in Fighters by "David Vosburgh" 16) RE: Weiss' Triplane by Dennis Ugulano 17) DH1a, was Lucky me too by Karen Rychlewski 18) Blinked by Karen Rychlewski 19) Re: Blinked by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 20) Re: Qn about photo in Fighters by "Gaston Graf" 21) Re: The "D" word by "Gaston Graf" 22) Re: warped plastic by Nigel Cheffers-Heard 23) Re: Nieuport Cowl Question by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 24) Re: Qn about photo in Fighters - bats in the belfry by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:23:02 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: DH-10 Message-ID: <001901c14090$7bb348e0$ceed19ce@default> I've got one, but it's a Merlin kit in Bittner scale, the pieces of which look like they were carved by Tolkein-esque cave-trolls out of stone and then thrown into Mt. Doom for safekeeping. I toy with the idea of making it someday but I don't suppose I ever will, given the fact that I haven't finished even an OTB kit in three years, let alone a semi-scratchbuild. I suppose you mean the old Aurora kit in 1:48th? DV ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: [WWI] DH-10 > SUBJECT: DH-10 > Just wondering if anyone has a kit of one of these tucked away in the attic > that they may wish to part with? I missed the last couple on ebay to snipers > so I will ask here before going back and trying again. > > Best regards, > Jon > Jon V. Theisen > 7532 Lawndale Ave. > Phila., PA 19111-2706 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:37:36 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: warped plastic Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C5BB@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Peter, Here is a technique that worked for me on a warped wing: This is text of orginal posting: ------------ Subject:Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker Folks, Thanks for all your advice on this subject. It worked like a charm, and I now have an almost perfectly straight wing. Basically I followed Michael Alvarado's suggestion combined with Steve Perry's. Before and after photos and signed testimonial available if you all ever want to market this technique! I pressed the wing down on a curved surface, and sure enough the plastic became white. My trusty helper then gently blew hot air over it with a heat gun, waving it around for uniform heat. As the plastic heated up, the white disappeared indicating that the stress had reduced. I immediately turned off the heat, and held the piece down on a flat surface until it had cooled down. I had to repeat the process a few times to get the wing exactly straight. Also, thoough the wing is straight, the trailing edge shows very slight bows, but overall, an easy low-risk process. Regards SSH --------------------- For further discussions see archive digest 3649 forward. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:53:33 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Qn about photo in Fighters Message-ID: <002701c14094$d0606400$ceed19ce@default> Hi Gaston I hate the idea of killing for fun too. But have you ever had squirrels living in the walls of your house? I have, it isn't a wonderful experience, and I have to admit that my reverence for all life (which is very real and runs quite deep) ends when I'm awakened night after night after night by the little #>?$%^$ dragging things which sound like they're the size of oak bureaus through the walls by my bed at 3AM. They look cute but the bottom line is that they're rodents, and have all the nasty habits of their species. Ditto for chipmunks, field mice, et al.. All of which reminds me of Shane's comments during the infamous Possum Thread a couple of years back, something about the Aussie variety 'shagging loudly on the tin roof in the middle of the night' which I still get a laugh out of, not that I suppose it'd be too funny when it's your roof. Anyway, not trying to make light of your feelings but I guess everybody has to draw the line somewhere. Veering back on topic for a moment, I seem to recall the .22 pump as using the short cartridge, not LR, which would explain the short ejection port. I might be befoogled, though, God knows *that's* never happened before... DV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaston Graf" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:48 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Qn about photo in Fighters > > > > It was a Remington; I inherited one as a kid. Good for squirrels! > > > > "Cool"... didn't anybody tell you that animals love their life too??? We > just SHARE the same plant! > > No kidding here - I just HATE it when people kill animals just for fun! > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:10:02 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Qn about photo in Fighters Message-ID: >From: "David Vosburgh" > >I hate the idea of killing for fun too. But have you ever had >squirrels >living in the walls of your house? I have, it isn't a >wonderful >experience, and I have to admit that my reverence for all >life So, Dave when you'd finished blasting the walls of your house with a .22 calibre shotgun and killed all the squirrels, is that when you took up interior decorating?:) I mean it's is one way to practice making those "faux wood" surfaces. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:04:41 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: "Legs" headed home wasRe: Looking Up Message-ID: <6f.1ad5b2cb.28d7e999@aol.com> In a message dated 9/16/01 8:46:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, REATON@austin.rr.com writes: << Thanks for the report RK. I know many of us were concerned about the status of our brother Bob. If Chris could update us on his progress north it would be appreciated. Regards, Richard >> A status report on Bob? Ok- he's nuts! He brought along a few examples of his 3D handiwork- forget the finger chopper- just drag out the guillotine and an end to this madness all at once. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:31:04 EDT From: Sixmilfigs@cs.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: German Unifrom Help Message-ID: <145.1bb6b3f.28d7efc8@cs.com> I am not sure if this will help or not, but you might want to take a look at the following sites to see if they answer your questions. http://gallery.uunet.be/ww1/ especially http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/utah/894/ahuzar.htm and http://gallery.uunet.be/ww1/huzar/huzarlayer.htm some stuff here as well http://mageos.ifrance.com/uhlan/anglais/kerstenhuss2a.html You might also try a search for re-enactment suppliers who might have color pics online. Shawn Kennedy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:34:22 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: RE: In Australia who knows where to get "Windsock" publicat Message-ID: <008d01c13fd9$aab18ba0$8de0223f@umber> Thanks David. Seems that the center of Australia , NSW, is letting me down. No one here in this state stocks them. Shane, good to know that he also stocks Aeroclub. I have been to their site and drooled over what they have. Oh a DH2... be still my wallet. ;) Cheers Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol & David Solosy" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:26 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: In Australia who knows where to get "Windsock" publicat | Ross | | You might also like to try Aeroworks in South Australia. They definitely | carry Albatros Publications. Certainly the Datafiles and Specials, but not | sure about subscriptions to Windsock. | Their details: | AeroWorks | 14 Lewis Court | Montague Farm, | S.A. 5095 | AUSTRALIA | Phone/Fax - 61 8 8359 7475 | Mobile - 0419 813 916 | Email - aeroworks@primus.com.au | | I believe they plan to have a website at some stage. | | Regards | | David S | | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:41:26 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: The "D" word Message-ID: <002501c13fe3$0ef8d880$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> A week ago I would have been ranting to y'all about the DISASTER that happened to my HB. That was a week ago. So now, let me tell you about the minor inconvienience I encountered. I had set the top wing, fuselage and tailfeathers on a piece of paper on the modeling bench. That was last Monday night. A few days ago I noticed the rudder was not balanced on the fuslage where I'd left it. I looked around and couldn't find it. Somewhat indignant that somebody had bumped the bench, I picked up the wing to look under it. The paper came up with the wing. It was stuck hard to the paper. The rudder was stuck to the underside of the wing and a huge spanwise run of some hard clear substance. turned out to be CA, ran most of the span of the wing. Hard questions were asked of the womenfolk. Indignant denials and hurt feelings followed. Proof was presented and further denials proffered. Stalemate. This icy condition prevailed for a day and a half until I was dozing in my chair and Michael, the elder tom cat suddenly appears from a hidy hole behind the bench and proceeds to mount the chair in front of the bench and step up onto The Forbiden Zone. Michael has for some time enjoyed diplomatic immunity, air conditioning and more than his share of choice handouts. Michael now has the great outdoors in which to contemplate is new status as Pussy Catus Non Gratis. With the mystery of whom solved I was left to repair the damage. The wing was complete with radiator, gun coffin and decals. This posed a considerable challenge as the top surface was perfect and the lower needed to go back down to the bare styrene. Any liquid stripper would be impossible to keep from getting at least some of on the top surface. I ended up discovering a new benefit of Future based acrylics. It was possible to gently scrape and flake the paint off with a #11 blade. It came off so readily that only a few minor nicks remain to be polished out before re-finishing can proceed. The CA spooge came right up with the paint Don't worry Gaston, I didn't abuse the cat, well not physically anyway. He may have learned a few new four letter words if he was paying attention, then again being a cat, he probably wasn't paying attention. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:48:55 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?jim=20Prendergast?= To: Multiple recipients of list Message-ID: <20010918014855.35825.qmail@web14405.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Ross, Used to be able to get "Windsock" at the Technical Book and Magazine Co., Swanston St., Melbourne. Probably still can. They got beyond my budget with the effect of our Sth. Pacific Peso plus GST. Jim P. http://travel.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Travel - Got Itchy feet? Get inspired! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:53:15 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Re: The "D" word Message-ID: <00ae01c13fe4$b0a548c0$07f1aec7@lylelamb> > > Don't worry Gaston, I didn't abuse the cat, well not physically anyway. He > may have learned a few new four letter words if he was paying attention, > then again being a cat, he probably wasn't paying attention. > sp My cats had a whole slew of epithets in their memory, including stuff in French, German and Spanish. All they really heard was: RRRAHAAAAAHHH!!, though. But, I'm sure the effect was the same.... Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:10:08 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Nieuport Cowl Question Message-ID: <200109180154.f8I1sM322397@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> "What color was the INSIDE of the Ni.17 cowl? Was it left natural aluminum = or was it painted?" We may never know for sure :-) but I always paint mine "natural" aluminum. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:08:04 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: DH-10 Message-ID: <200109180154.f8I1sI322085@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:21:59 -0400 (EDT), David Vosburgh wrote: > I've got one, but it's a Merlin kit in Bittner scale, the pieces of which look like they > were carved by Tolkein-esque cave-trolls out of stone and then thrown into Mt. Doom for > safekeeping. I toy with the idea of making it someday but I don't suppose I ever will, > given the fact that I haven't finished even an OTB kit in three years, let alone a > semi-scratchbuild. ROTFL!!! This one is too good. The visuals are more than enough... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:10:38 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Back Message-ID: <200109180154.f8I1sO322648@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:31:48 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > Yes, but it was withdrawn from the stores a few days ago since it was > discovered that the model was in fact 1/71st scale and it was unnaceptable > for certain modelers. Am I THAT anal? Heavens... ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:53:32 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: "Alan Rocker" Cc: "Tony Cassanova" , "Tom Wise" , Subject: Virus Alert Message-ID: <00b001c13fe4$c0da2620$4e895ad1@default> Be advised that my machine was inadvertently infected by the SirCam virus which was sent to me by an unwitting friend. It has been randomly selecting and sending e-mails from my hard-drive files to recipients from my address book. If you have received an attachment from this address and opened it your machine may be infected. You can go to www.symantec.com to find a fix. I will be off line until I can get my anti-virus updated. I'm very, Very, sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you. My sincerest apologies Brad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:18:11 -0400 From: "David Vosburgh" To: Subject: Re: Qn about photo in Fighters Message-ID: <000c01c140b9$b75c6e20$efed19ce@default> Nope. I waited until the little suckers sneaked out to get water and ambushed them from the barbecue in my gilly suit. There I go being facetious again. Did you have squirrels in England when you were growing up? A silly question for an Anglophile like me, but I can't recall ever having read about them in Evelyn Waugh or Lord Dunsany... I know they have them in Japan because I ran over a black one on a bike (it lived AFAIK; I almost didn't but that's another story). It's nice being back, Michael. I've missed you guys, the only listees I've been in regular contact with have been Lord Fernetti and Eric (who's probably hunting for me as we speak with his Spandau because I haven't been able to put up the Lohner photos on the CSM Web site, and the figure photos, and the beautiful pics of SP's big S.XIII, and...). Has anyone heard from Peter Crow lately? And how's the Heretic? I e-mailed him while he was in the hospital a while ago but haven't heard how he made out. DV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kendix" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:11 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Qn about photo in Fighters > >From: "David Vosburgh" > > > >I hate the idea of killing for fun too. But have you ever had >squirrels > >living in the walls of your house? I have, it isn't a >wonderful > >experience, and I have to admit that my reverence for all >life > > So, Dave when you'd finished blasting the walls of your house with a .22 > calibre shotgun and killed all the squirrels, is that when you took up > interior decorating?:) I mean it's is one way to practice making those "faux > wood" surfaces. > > Michael > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:42:24 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Weiss' Triplane Message-ID: <200109172342_MC3-E024-43B4@compuserve.com> Marc, N, >> but Franks and Wyngarden have provided us with a contemporary account that I think would allow the painting of such an aircraft. Go for it Dennis! << Consider it done. I was ponder what to do with my next to next DR1. The first one will be Raben's red and white and Weiss' WHITE one. Oh joy oh joy. Thank you so very much Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 9/08/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:16:29 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: DH1a, was Lucky me too Message-ID: <3BA6D8AD.C4504AC5@earthlink.net> Crawford Neil wrote: > Especially welcome because my little Phoenix vac of > > the DH1a has been waiting for this "definitive" information. > > Yes I have that one too, and also waiting for the definite info,` > seems like we've now got as much as we will get? I'd agree with that. There have been very few resources for this plane. I had been using the Wylam plans in "Scale Aircraft Drawings" until I was flamed by someone a while back for saying so (don't recall who it was). So I humbly set the kit parts on the back of the table until the "definitive" book was published. Well, folks, comparing the measurements from the FMP book with Wylam's was a revelation: using a 1/48 scale ruler, Wylam's airplane length is 6 (scale) inches shorter than the FMP length; Wylam's wingspan is 3 inches shorter than the FMP wingspan; and Wylam's nacelle length is 3 inches shorter than the FMP length. Interestingly, the stated measurements on Wylam's drawings are exactly the same as the measurements given in the FMP book--it seems that Wylam's *drawings* are slightly undersized. So it appears that we had the "definitive" measurements all the time! In this case, at least, Wylam's drawings are accurate and they provide a wealth of detail information I've not seen anywhere else. BTW, the drawings accompanying Carl Park's scratchbuild of a DH1a in the July, 1997, FineScale Modeler are also 'spot on' to the ones in the FMP book. Let me add that I don't usually go through all this rigamarole, hauling out the rulers and such. I guess I was still miffed at the putdown for using Wylam and decided to check things out. > > I was very > > surprised to see No. 4609 > > Aha, so that's the number, thankyou. > > of the 14 Squadron in the Middle > > East with its > > white skull & crossbones on a RED background. > > Sensational! Now how did they work out that it should be red? > Unless it's PC10 (I mean the red-brown one, I can never remember which is which), > which I have always thought. If it's not PC10 or PC12 then I would have guessed > at black, the jolly roger is usually black and white. But red, why not blue > (or before Dave F suggests it,yellow on ortho film!) > Does anyone remember what colour Carl Park painted the nose of his 1/32 > scale model, that is the one in FSM, I had a look at that photo-copy, it's a > very good article, and a lovely model. Correction: the caption says it "might" be 4609 that had the skull & crossbones marking, but the color profile does have that number. Six of these aircraft served with the 14th Squadron in Egypt, and which one or ones had this marking seems to be unknown--No. 4609 is as good as any other number, I guess. The red background is definitely RED--same color as the rudder red. If these DeHavilland books are the "definitive" ones, then I suppose red it shall be. Looks cool! Carl Park used black. > Thank you very much, you just made my day:-) I just do what I can... Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:29:55 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: to post Subject: Blinked Message-ID: <3BA6DBD2.DC22A836@earthlink.net> Hey, did I miss something? I just browsed through the Wise Owl website http://www.wiseowlmagazines.com/ and it says that 4 new Mini-Datafies: DFW FLOH; Ansaldo Baby; German Observers' Guns; and Italian WWI Markings will be available in August 2001. Anyone know anything about this?? Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:42:12 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Blinked Message-ID: That's funny, Karen, I haven't seen them listed anywhere - here or overseas - mind you we have a bit of a time lag anyway waiting for the banana boat to get in. Neil E. : ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:03:56 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: Qn about photo in Fighters Message-ID: Hi Dave, it is always a pleasure to see the reactions from the list when once again something had upset me. Also to you my warmest thanks for enlightening the dark corners of my imperfect knowledge. NO - until this day I did not know that squirrels live in walls. I believed they live in the wilderness, or at least in the green, like the hedgehogs do in Europe. I saw quite a lot of them on the trees in the US (squirrels, not hedgehogs). Albeit knowing the American way of constructing houses (which I like very much) here in Europe the squirrels would have a hard time digging a hole for living because our houses are mostly build with stones, bricks or heavy concrete blocks. Also I think that our red squirrels are much more shy than their American buddies are. But even if it is very annoying to have animals making noise behind walls or under floors etc it still is no reason for me to kill them just to have peace again. I would rather kick them out and convince them to find a better place for living. We had some hedgehogs living in our garage a few years ago. Hegdhogs are funny fellows who may become as affactionate as a dog if one cares to much about them, but they usually are full of parasites and it is no pleasure to have all that vermin in the house. They had build a nest under an old dresser and my wife discovered them by chance as one of them was home late in the night - or early in the morining for us humans - as she brought down the laundry for washing. The hedghogs had entered the garage via the cat doors. So I grabbed me a flashlight to see how many they are - it was a mother with 4 babies. I wanted to get rid of them, but did never intend to kill them, so I just took their nest apart a bit and made noise. The mother hissed at my flashlight and in the evening I watched them all leaving the nest for the night but they never came back again. The next year however, there was a new nest again build in a plastic bag with dried grass and whatever they had found to make it a warm place. Fortunately hedeghogs are easy to expell because they want a peaceful corner and if there is to much noise they won't stay. Also years ago we fed two hedgehogs during the winter. We found them as they was way too small to survive the hiberantion so we took them im, build them a nest with straw in a box and fed them with catfood, eggs and scraped beef. They had tripled their weight as we released them again in spring. Huh - ot again, I'm sorry. But we are a list family, after all ;o). btw: Actually we have BATS living in our house! Because it is build with concrect blocks that have hollow chambers inside and because our facade was not done yet the bats found an gap between blocks and now live in our ceiling. But I don't want to get rid of them. They are under protection anyway. Also it is quite fun to see them flying around the house at midnight ;o). Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of David > Vosburgh > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:53 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Qn about photo in Fighters > > > Hi Gaston > > I hate the idea of killing for fun too. But have you ever had > squirrels living in the > walls of your house? I have, it isn't a wonderful experience, and > I have to admit that my > reverence for all life (which is very real and runs quite deep) > ends when I'm awakened > night after night after night by the little #>?$%^$ dragging > things which sound like > they're the size of oak bureaus through the walls by my bed at > 3AM. They look cute but the > bottom line is that they're rodents, and have all the nasty > habits of their species. Ditto > for chipmunks, field mice, et al.. > > All of which reminds me of Shane's comments during the infamous > Possum Thread a couple of > years back, something about the Aussie variety 'shagging loudly > on the tin roof in the > middle of the night' which I still get a laugh out of, not that I > suppose it'd be too > funny when it's your roof. > > Anyway, not trying to make light of your feelings but I guess > everybody has to draw the > line somewhere. > > Veering back on topic for a moment, I seem to recall the .22 pump > as using the short > cartridge, not LR, which would explain the short ejection port. I > might be befoogled, > though, God knows *that's* never happened before... > > DV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gaston Graf" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:48 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Qn about photo in Fighters > > > > > > > > It was a Remington; I inherited one as a kid. Good for squirrels! > > > > > > > "Cool"... didn't anybody tell you that animals love their life too??? We > > just SHARE the same plant! > > > > No kidding here - I just HATE it when people kill animals just for fun! > > > > Gaston Graf > > (ggraf@vo.lu) > > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:21:21 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: The "D" word Message-ID: ROTFLMAO - maybe Micheal should meet Paulie, who is my dear Garfield size tomcat. He does not eat ham nor fish and is way to lazy to hunt for mice, but he's a real Ack-Ack-Tiger and loves to catch birds in flight. One of Paulies favorite games is when he sees something laying on a tabletio. He then pushes it to the edge with his paw, making funny noises such as "grooh-grooh". Then with a final move he pushes the thing over the edge - na matter WHAT it was - and makes more funny "grooh-grooh" sounds, as if he is laughing. Beside of Paulie there is his smart brother Peter, who's hunting anything from frogs to bats, then we have the little Devil, Ronny & Betty, Lisa and Mousie plus Max the black Lab, Maja the bunny, Willy the Guinea pig and not to forget the colony of nameless bats. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Lyle > Lamboley > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:55 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: The "D" word > > > > > > > Don't worry Gaston, I didn't abuse the cat, well not physically > anyway. He > > may have learned a few new four letter words if he was paying attention, > > then again being a cat, he probably wasn't paying attention. > > sp > > My cats had a whole slew of epithets in their memory, including stuff in > French, German and Spanish. All they really heard was: RRRAHAAAAAHHH!!, > though. But, I'm sure the effect was the same.... > Lyle > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:22:07 +0000 From: Nigel Cheffers-Heard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: warped plastic Message-ID: I use hair dryer heat.......... It changes sheen and you can see it >relax slightly. Brave or wot? N -- Nigel Cheffers-Heard photography + design tel: +44 (0)1392 87 58 57 fax: +44 (0)1392 87 74 97 mobile: 0771 261 4514 nigelch@cheffers.co.uk www.cheffers.co.uk Laburnums, Bridge Hill Topsham, Exeter EX3 0QQ, UK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:34:02 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport Cowl Question Message-ID: <85.101b36d9.28d844da@aol.com> My guess is that it depends on how new it is or how diligent the ground crew. Experience with the older type pf two stroke m/c (BSA Bantams etc) is that metal parts quickly become coated in thin a sticky brown film which is difficult to remove if left for more than a few days. With the kind of total loss lubrication common in the WWI rotary the effect must have been similar. Anyhow, for these reasons I paint both engines and the inside of cowlings a dull metalic grey and then add a brown wash. my threepennyworth Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:37:35 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Qn about photo in Fighters - bats in the belfry Message-ID: Gaston; Having native animals around can be make us feel good I think at times - others not. We usually have a couple of possums that live in a nearby tree - they cannot get in the roof - but we see them in the trees and all over at night. Every year they have a couple of babies which they carry around. The possums drive our cats mad cos they cant get at them! Also we get quite large fruitbats roosting nearby who feed on our fruit trees (particularly my apricots : ( ) and lots and lots of magpies. However we had a full grown tiger snake (very venomous) take up residence in the garden last year which was somewhat unwelcome. We had to get the Healesville Animal Sanctuary Rangers to come and pick it up and as far as I know its living happily in the sanctuary. Overall I am happy to share my environment with the local wildlife and if I'm in a good mood the possums get an apple or two! OT Content: Eduard Albatros DV progress - decals on and sealed, top wing attached and all struts in place, rigging completed and cleaned up, bottom wing given a coat of Extracolour German Underside Blue - all disasters seem to be behind me and I'm steaming along! Also does anyone know what the best brass/copper paint to use on radiator pipes etc? All the best Neil E. (deliberately ignoring the obvious joke of Gaston having "Bats in his Belfry!" : ))) ----- Forwarded by Neil Eddy/Northern/DHS on 18/09/2001 04:22 PM ----- "Gaston Graf" To: Multiple recipients of list Sent by: wwi@wwi-model cc: s.org Subject: [WWI] Re: Qn about photo in Fighters 18/09/2001 04:05 PM Please respond to wwi Hi Dave, it is always a pleasure to see the reactions from the list when once again something had upset me. Also to you my warmest thanks for enlightening the dark corners of my imperfect knowledge. NO - until this day I did not know that squirrels live in walls. I believed they live in the wilderness, or at least in the green, like the hedgehogs do in Europe. I saw quite a lot of them on the trees in the US (squirrels, not hedgehogs). Albeit knowing the American way of constructing houses (which I like very much) here in Europe the squirrels would have a hard time digging a hole for living because our houses are mostly build with stones, bricks or heavy concrete blocks. Also I think that our red squirrels are much more shy than their American buddies are. But even if it is very annoying to have animals making noise behind walls or under floors etc it still is no reason for me to kill them just to have peace again. I would rather kick them out and convince them to find a better place for living. We had some hedgehogs living in our garage a few years ago. Hegdhogs are funny fellows who may become as affactionate as a dog if one cares to much about them, but they usually are full of parasites and it is no pleasure to have all that vermin in the house. They had build a nest under an old dresser and my wife discovered them by chance as one of them was home late in the night - or early in the morining for us humans - as she brought down the laundry for washing. The hedghogs had entered the garage via the cat doors. So I grabbed me a flashlight to see how many they are - it was a mother with 4 babies. I wanted to get rid of them, but did never intend to kill them, so I just took their nest apart a bit and made noise. The mother hissed at my flashlight and in the evening I watched them all leaving the nest for the night but they never came back again. The next year however, there was a new nest again build in a plastic bag with dried grass and whatever they had found to make it a warm place. Fortunately hedeghogs are easy to expell because they want a peaceful corner and if there is to much noise they won't stay. Also years ago we fed two hedgehogs during the winter. We found them as they was way too small to survive the hiberantion so we took them im, build them a nest with straw in a box and fed them with catfood, eggs and scraped beef. They had tripled their weight as we released them again in spring. Huh - ot again, I'm sorry. But we are a list family, after all ;o). btw: Actually we have BATS living in our house! Because it is build with concrect blocks that have hollow chambers inside and because our facade was not done yet the bats found an gap between blocks and now live in our ceiling. But I don't want to get rid of them. They are under protection anyway. Also it is quite fun to see them flying around the house at midnight ;o). Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of David > Vosburgh > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:53 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Qn about photo in Fighters > > > Hi Gaston > > I hate the idea of killing for fun too. But have you ever had > squirrels living in the > walls of your house? I have, it isn't a wonderful experience, and > I have to admit that my > reverence for all life (which is very real and runs quite deep) > ends when I'm awakened > night after night after night by the little #>?$%^$ dragging > things which sound like > they're the size of oak bureaus through the walls by my bed at > 3AM. They look cute but the > bottom line is that they're rodents, and have all the nasty > habits of their species. Ditto > for chipmunks, field mice, et al.. > > All of which reminds me of Shane's comments during the infamous > Possum Thread a couple of > years back, something about the Aussie variety 'shagging loudly > on the tin roof in the > middle of the night' which I still get a laugh out of, not that I > suppose it'd be too > funny when it's your roof. > > Anyway, not trying to make light of your feelings but I guess > everybody has to draw the > line somewhere. > > Veering back on topic for a moment, I seem to recall the .22 pump > as using the short > cartridge, not LR, which would explain the short ejection port. I > might be befoogled, > though, God knows *that's* never happened before... > > DV > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gaston Graf" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:48 PM > Subject: [WWI] Re: Qn about photo in Fighters > > > > > > > > It was a Remington; I inherited one as a kid. Good for squirrels! > > > > > > > "Cool"... didn't anybody tell you that animals love their life too??? We > > just SHARE the same plant! > > > > No kidding here - I just HATE it when people kill animals just for fun! > > > > Gaston Graf > > (ggraf@vo.lu) > > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3726 **********************