WWI Digest 3718 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Back to OT by "Steven Perry" 2) Re: Thanks by "Richard Eaton" 3) I took the plunge today ... by "Ross Moorhouse" 4) Tape residue, was Bristol Scout Question by Karen Rychlewski 5) Today in history - The Italian front by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 6) Re: Bristol Scout Question by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 7) Re: I took the plunge today ... by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 8) Re: Shine Magic by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 9) automatic ot message deleter by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 10) Lucky, lucky me... by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 11) RE: Back to OT by "dfernet0" 12) Night-camouflage by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 13) Re: Lucky, lucky me... by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 14) RE: Back to OT by Crawford Neil 15) RE: Night-camouflage by "dfernet0" 16) RE: Bristol Scout Question by Crawford Neil 17) RE: Back to OT by "Steven Perry" 18) RE: Back to OT by "dfernet0" 19) Re: I took the plunge today ... by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 20) RE: Back to OT by "Steven Perry" 21) DH2 datafile for DH1? by Crawford Neil 22) RE: Back to OT by Crawford Neil 23) RE: Night-camouflage by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 24) RE: Back to OT by Crawford Neil 25) RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? by "dfernet0" 26) Re: Lucky, lucky me... by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 27) 1/32 Caudron G4 by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 28) RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? by Crawford Neil 29) Re: Back to OT by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 30) RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? by "dfernet0" 31) RE: 1/32 Caudron G4 by "dfernet0" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:39:35 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Back to OT Message-ID: <00f101c13cce$dfdcbec0$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> In an attempt to drag my self back to much more pleasant OT subjects, let me say the mail seems to be cranking up again. I recieved some decals from Karen today which I believe were mailed Monday. Thanks again Karen :-) These are for the HB D.I and are the Yin/Yang circles. I have some problems with how I will use them to fix the messed up decal on the stbd side. It's for a contest so it has to be right and I have only one chance to get it right. Here's what I'm up against: The model's finish is like this. Plastic fuselage, hand painted ply decals sprayed with clear decal film and applied with Future. 2 light coats of Future, about a dozen or more mistings with watercolor/india ink tinted Future, (as for india ink, way, way less than a little dab'll do ya). Thats the surface to which the first set of circular markings were applied. These are fragile decals, thin and a tad brittle. They also have this nasty propensity to stick and sucker down almost exactly where they are first laid. Very little adjustment can be dene. It was here that one decal cracked. Usually a cracked decal can be adjusted just so and dry invisible, but this one flakes off a tiny piece of white, quarter of a pin head in size. White paint is too white and even tinted white still shows for exactly what it is, a touch up. Now do I just slap the new decal over the old? Removing the old decal is not an option on this finish. The decals are so thin that some of the darker underlying finish makes it slightly off white. Do I chance it that the slight difference in the white and the touchup will not show through the second decal? Apply a white disc and then the second marking decal? Mask and spray the white part of the second decal before applying it? For that matter, maybe mask and spray the original decal in situ. But before I can do any of that color business there is the issue of texture, The tiny flake missing and the touchup paint are in sharp contrast to the perfectly smooth surface of the rest of the decal, especially when seen from some angles. So now I have to decide how to smooth the area without removing too much of the color of the paint and decal in the immediate area of the blemish. The decals are thin enough to show very small irregularities in the surface. Scraping, sanding, scrubbing polishing are all fraught with opportunities to make a really big mess out of a tiny one. So if your'e incredibly patient and have borne with me this far, how would you tackle the problem? Besides body-slaming me to shut me up;-) sp Who heard the first jet in days flying the approach to PIE as he was typing ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:47:10 -0500 From: "Richard Eaton" To: Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <00da01c13ccf$f09555a0$09191b18@austin.rr.com> My appologies for the ot message to Steve. Wrong button syndrome again. You guys are the greatest! As time heals I know that the OT traffic will pick up! Looking forward to it. Regards, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:55 PM Subject: [WWI] Thanks > I was wondering when the anger would turn to tears. > > They came when I saw the video of the changing of the guard in London where > they played the Star Spangled Banner. And they continued as they played > clips of people across Europe expressing sympathy. > > I know we are supposed to let this business lie on the List, but I do need > to say to all my friends around the world who have expressed condolance and > support that it has been most deeply appreciated. Friends in an un-friendly > world are a precious thing. > > Now it's time to show the terrorists and their enablers the business end of > American Tax Dollars...hard at work. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:28:03 +1000 From: "Ross Moorhouse" To: Subject: I took the plunge today ... Message-ID: <00c401c13cd5$a5e16fc0$2d180c3f@umber> I ordered the Eduard 1/48 Roland C.11 today. What can I expect from this kit? Is it an easy build? Cheers Ross ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:10:36 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Tape residue, was Bristol Scout Question Message-ID: <3BA1914B.78204616@earthlink.net> Charlie and Linda Duckworth wrote: > The S.1 was coming along nicely until I pulled off the drafting tape around > the fuselage (I'd masked over the CDL to do the woodgrain on the sides) and > ended up with a lot of tape residue so now trying to figure out how to > remove the tape glue from Mr. Kits paint this has never happened before so I > assume the tape must be old. >snipped comments on Bristol Scout and a morning's sadness< I've been using some great stuff to remove sticky tape goo, tree sap goo, and price sticker goo--it's called "Goo Gone". Got it at a Lowe's (building supplies, appliances, etc.) but maybe available at K/Wal-marts. 8 ounce plastic squeeze bottle, yellow transparent thin liquid with very orange fruity smell (nice with Alfredo-sauce pastas, too...). I've used it on all sorts of surfaces to remove said goos and have never had the paint or varnish underneath react to it--sure beats lighter fluid :-) Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:32:23 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: Today in history - The Italian front Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F151@SERVER1> 14th Spetember 1916: the seventh Isonzo Battle begins in the Carso sector of the Italian front. 16th September 1916: the seventh Isonzo Battle ends. 15th September 1917: the eleventh Isonzo Battle ends with the Italian conquest of the Monte Santo and of a part of the Bainsizza plateau . Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 03:25:02 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bristol Scout Question Message-ID: <3d.1153da72.28d30ace@aol.com> I hope I'm not too late with this but..... note that both decal options in the kit depict aircraft with the smaller tail, not the larger as provided by Gavia. Not difficult to overcome but it should be noted. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:22:52 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I took the plunge today ... Message-ID: Ross; I've got this one at home in the cupboard...I did a dry run of major parts recently and all fits seemed clean...I don't know if other list members have anything to say about dimensions etc. To me if it looks like a Roland, then it is a Roland (Glaring errors excepted of course).... All the best Neil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:41:47 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Shine Magic Message-ID: Bob; That's exactly what started me on this thread. A friend brought me back the large bottle about a month ago and has only just given it to me. So I had to consult my wise colleagues about how to use it! Thanks everyone for responding to my initial query, I think I know what I'm doing with it now. That's what I like about this list - everyone pulling together....hats off! Neil E. Warning to our overseas modeling friends. The international equivalents of Future from the USA are not exactly the same. Shine Magic for example does not possess all the same outstanding qualities as Future! And yes, SM is a bit cloudy in the bottle unlike Future which is clear. They can all be used with success, but Future (from the USA) is by far superior. If you have friends that travel to the US just have them bring back a bottle, it will last you forever! HTH --------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:49:36 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: automatic ot message deleter Message-ID: <20010914094936.69139.qmail@web20009.mail.yahoo.com> Hi People! I am trying to surface. If my more emotional bouts of peevishness contributed to anybody’s distress I am sorry. I have installed a “finger-activated automatic ot message deleter” I am completely available off-list to anybody who feels like discussing any ot matter. Up, up and away! Fernando ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:59:04 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Lucky, lucky me... Message-ID: <20010914095904.10609.qmail@web20005.mail.yahoo.com> Marvel everybody! After a long, long absence from the hobby I got back big indeed! Thanks to many of you (thanks Hans, thanks Volker, thanks others) I got the references for most of the Austro-Hungarian bibles published…and I GOT THEM! I now have the FMP A-H book, the A-H Aces book, the Schiemer book, the Schupita book on the Seeflieger, the ÖFH book on fighter colours, the complete Windsock and, thanks to the kind help of Peter Wright, the C&C Martin O’Connor articles, all twelve of them. I got lucky because the list was so helpful and I am really happy with all of it! Feel free to ask for what you need (copyright considered and bla, bla, bla, of course). This is to threaten that the Austro-Hungarian grey finishes will be back. Oh yes they will! Fernando ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:08:37 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Back to OT Message-ID: <009b01c13d05$3965fac0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Steve wrote: > It was here that one decal cracked. Usually a cracked decal can be adjusted > just so and dry invisible, but this one flakes off a tiny piece of white, > quarter of a pin head in size. > Now do I just slap the new decal over the old? Removing the old decal is not > an option on this finish. What about a series of bullet entry holes along the fuselage? Ah. Not an option... D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:10:32 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Night-camouflage Message-ID: <20010914101032.53752.qmail@web20007.mail.yahoo.com> Hi to all, you obscenely knowledgeable WWI aircraft "freaks"! (I'm still only half-freak but working on it) As I go slooowly through Martin O'Connors articles on A-H colours in the C&C I come across some informarion on night-camouflage. The origin of the information is a real Flik16D pilot (Siegl). He states that they had Hansa-Brandenburg C.I aircraft specially painted for night operations. They were sprayed light blue, then dark blue, then black. He flew 369-series C.Is in this scheme. Does somebody know more about this? (Flik16D C.Is usually had the unit marking, a white bordered black coloured "16" occupying the full fuselage height just behind the rear cockpit.) This would be a stunnig model! TIA for any info Fernando ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:18:16 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: Lucky, lucky me... Message-ID: <005d01c13d06$92cb9c40$0200a8c0@x.pl> > Feel free to ask for what you need (copyright > considered and bla, bla, bla, of course). Hi Fernando! I feel free, so I'm asking: Do you have any paiting schemes for Berg D.I 338. series? Could you share your luck? Cheers! Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:11:46 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Back to OT Message-ID: Slap on a new decal is about all you can do, mending is pretty hopeless. I have good experience of adding more decals on top. When I made my biggest (yet) modelling boob, by putting the US decals on upside down, I repaired by adding two more decals on top, one was not enough, the upside down star still showed through. But adding new decals on top worked well. /Neil C. > > Steve wrote: > > It was here that one decal cracked. Usually a cracked decal can be > adjusted > > just so and dry invisible, but this one flakes off a tiny > piece of white, > > quarter of a pin head in size. > > Now do I just slap the new decal over the old? Removing the > old decal is > not > > an option on this finish. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:21:28 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Night-camouflage Message-ID: <01d101c13d07$04178440$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Fernando! > They were sprayed light blue, then dark blue, then > black. He flew 369-series C.Is in this scheme. > Does somebody know more about this? I must confess my absolute ignorance about AH camouflages, but this looks intriguing, so allow me to ask more: have you seen a picture of these crafts? It was a sort of "stipple" finish as the Halberstadt 2 seaters or the early Albatros D.V? D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:17:26 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Bristol Scout Question Message-ID: Dame Karen has already answered this, if you can't get that cleaner here is an alternative. I use polish, my sort is Blue Magic custom car polish, and I just polish the offending area till the glue-gunge disappears. I use polish a lot for this kind of thing, paint-overspray, blobs of things etc, it doesn't harm the paint (usually) and often works. /Neil C. Charlie wrote: > > Well the Martynside S.1 has taken a backseat to the Gavia > Bristol Scout. > The S.1 was coming along nicely until I pulled off the > drafting tape around > the fuselage (I'd masked over the CDL to do the woodgrain on > the sides) and > ended up with a lot of tape residue so now trying to figure out how to > remove the tape glue from Mr. Kits paint this has never > happened before so I > assume the tape must be old. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:20:45 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: Back to OT Message-ID: <000701c13d06$eb073220$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > What about a series of bullet entry holes along the fuselage? Ah. Not an > option... > D. Nope, I'd have to paint blood splatters in the cockpit and its too nice to do that to. sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:24:29 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Back to OT Message-ID: <01d901c13d07$6fd54dc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! Is there a method to prevent building up too much thickness over the decals? A coat of decal solvent ? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil > Slap on a new decal is about all you can do, mending is pretty > hopeless. I have good experience of adding more decals on top. > When I made my biggest (yet) modelling boob, by putting the US > decals on upside down, I repaired by adding two more decals on > top, one was not enough, the upside down star still showed through. > But adding new decals on top worked well. > /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:19:41 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: I took the plunge today ... Message-ID: <20010914101941.73054.qmail@web20009.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ross Moorhouse wrote: > I ordered the Eduard 1/48 Roland C.11 today. What > can I expect from this > kit? Is it an easy build? > > Cheers > > Ross > Hi Ross! You can expect a reasonable number of small plastic parts stuck to a sprue skeleton. We are supposed to cut them out... Sorry, some neuro-transmiters just went astray.... You got a wonderfull kit: I have the Profi version and its gorgeous. I haven't started building it yet but the dry run doesn't show any problems and it does look just like a Roland. There''s a photo in the Datafile of a funny-guy type of crew posing on the ground and watering the flowerpots hung in the windows. Boy, what a vignette! Congratulations on you purchase! I only hope you're not like me and actually build the models you buy... Fernando ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:26:46 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: Back to OT Message-ID: <000d01c13d07$c1763720$61e82341@tampabay.rr.com> > When I made my biggest (yet) modelling boob, by putting the US > decals on upside down, Oh you poor amateur, is that the best screw up you can muster ;-). You need to practice harder like me. Seriously, what you said gave me an idea. I can cut a small piece of white out of one of the other kit decals and slap it over the blemish and see real quick if it will show through. I can then yank the piece off and proceed based on what I found out. sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:24:30 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: DH2 datafile for DH1? Message-ID: I'm gathering references for the DH1A that I might build after the Spad&Tabloid. I was thinking of getting the DH2 datafile, is any of it applicable to the DH1? Things like cockpit interior, rigging and similar details might be useful. What does the list think? I've already done a DH2 so I don't need it for DH2 references, I won't be building another one of them. I have the Squadron/Signal book, unfortunately the DH1 part of that wasn't very useful. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:27:01 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Back to OT Message-ID: In this case, they were micro-scale, thus very thin. You hardly notice it, that model did well in competition despite the multiple decal layers. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 14 september 2001 12:22 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Back to OT > > > Neil! > Is there a method to prevent building up too much thickness > over the decals? > A coat of decal solvent ? > D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:30:00 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Night-camouflage Message-ID: <20010914103000.74130.qmail@web20009.mail.yahoo.com> --- dfernet0 wrote: > Fernando! > > They were sprayed light blue, then dark blue, then > > black. He flew 369-series C.Is in this scheme. > > Does somebody know more about this? > > I must confess my absolute ignorance about AH > camouflages, but this looks > intriguing, so allow me to ask more: have you seen a > picture of these > crafts? It was a sort of "stipple" finish as the > Halberstadt 2 seaters or > the early Albatros D.V? > D. Hi Diego! Nope! That's why I'm asking if people know of photos of aircraft of this unit. The photos of H-B C.Is from Flik16D I have all show very dark finishes. I would hazard that they would be "summation patterns": one or two colours densely applied with sponge/rags and blended into each other on the airframe. Siegl says the night finish was sprayed-on, and O'Connor postulates it was applied at unit level. I think this makes sense: so little night flying wouldn't probably justify factory applied dedicated schemes in a country that was still supplying un-camouflaged aircraft when the war ended. However...just suppose somebody in the list finds a photo of flare or landing-light equiped C.I. Wouldn't it be a good starting poit? Since we already know the general colours, we would find the pattern and use of Dicta Ira would produce the model... Funny ain't it? Each day, something new... Fernando ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:29:58 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Back to OT Message-ID: And this makes me think of a better idea, which I usually advocate, use decal to patch decal. You could probably cut a tiny patch , that could be fixed in place with micro decal-saver. /Neil C. (practicing hard;-)) > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Perry [mailto:sperry03@tampabay.rr.com] > Sent: den 14 september 2001 12:27 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: Back to OT > > > > When I made my biggest (yet) modelling boob, by putting the US > > decals on upside down, > > Oh you poor amateur, is that the best screw up you can muster > ;-). You need > to practice harder like me. > > Seriously, what you said gave me an idea. I can cut a small > piece of white > out of one of the other kit decals and slap it over the > blemish and see real > quick if it will show through. I can then yank the piece off > and proceed > based on what I found out. > sp > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:35:46 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? Message-ID: <022e01c13d09$03e31be0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! IIRC there's nothing about the DH1 in the datafile. However there's a build article in an old FSM about a scratchbuilt DH1 that might be useful. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:26 AM Subject: [WWI] DH2 datafile for DH1? > I'm gathering references for the DH1A that I might > build after the Spad&Tabloid. I was thinking of getting > the DH2 datafile, is any of it applicable to the DH1? > Things like cockpit interior, rigging and similar details > might be useful. What does the list think? I've already > done a DH2 so I don't need it for DH2 references, I won't > be building another one of them. > > I have the Squadron/Signal book, unfortunately the DH1 part > of that wasn't very useful. > /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:32:21 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Lucky, lucky me... Message-ID: <20010914103221.15074.qmail@web20005.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Grzes! I'll collect information during the week-end, scan it on monday, try to shoot it over next Tuesday. Cheerio! Fernando --- Grzegorz Mazurowski wrote: > > > Feel free to ask for what you need (copyright > > considered and bla, bla, bla, of course). > > Hi Fernando! > I feel free, so I'm asking: > Do you have any paiting schemes for Berg D.I 338. > series? > Could you share your luck? > Cheers! > Grzegorz > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:35:24 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: 1/32 Caudron G4 Message-ID: <6e.ff1b22e.28d3376c@aol.com> Anyone for a card Caudron G4 in semaphore scale? http://www.digitalcardmodels.com/ Looks good cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:38:05 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? Message-ID: Yes I remember that, I think I didn't even bother to copy it. there was little new, I might be wrong. I have the Wylam drawings, so really have enough externally. It's cockpit interiors and confirmation of the number on the one with skull&cross-bones on the nose that I need. Also of course confirmation of the PC10 or PC12 question, but I will probably go for a red-brown one, it's flashier! /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 14 september 2001 12:32 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? > > > Neil! > IIRC there's nothing about the DH1 in the datafile. However > there's a build > article in an old FSM about a scratchbuilt DH1 that might be useful. > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:39:51 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Back to OT Message-ID: <20010914103951.66683.qmail@web20001.mail.yahoo.com> --- Steven Perry wrote: > Hi Steve! Wonderfull to follow your account. Murphy indeed... Depending on where the damn thing happened, I might try to model a piece of clothing (blanket, pilot's coat) and drape it over the offended area. Just look at the real photos of aircraft on the ground: a lot of them show that an aircraft is a very convenient place to hang something you were carrying. Fernando So if your'e incredibly patient and have borne with > me this far, how would > you tackle the problem? Besides body-slaming me to > shut me up;-) > > sp > Who heard the first jet in days flying the approach > to PIE as he was typing > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:53:59 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? Message-ID: <024f01c13d0b$8f0ccd40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! As I sent my last message I think that I recalled a "cockpit" article on the early DH designs on an index of Ww1 Aero. Perhaps some of the listees have one of these handy so you can locate the exact quote. I haven't seen the mag, just the index, and probably the article may be a generic description of the pusher series equipment, comprising DH1, DH1A and DH2. Anyway, I would model the rear cockpit much in the fashion of the DH2 control arrangement and borrowing some details of the furniture of the FE2 series to add realism. Speaking of that... was there a DH3 ever? Never seen a picture of it.And DH7s and DH8s? Just prototypes? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:39 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? > Yes I remember that, I think I didn't even bother to copy > it. there was little new, I might be wrong. > I have the Wylam drawings, so really have enough externally. > It's cockpit interiors and confirmation of the number on the > one with skull&cross-bones on the nose that I need. > Also of course confirmation of the PC10 or PC12 question, > but I will probably go for a red-brown one, it's flashier! > /Neil C. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > > Sent: den 14 september 2001 12:32 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] RE: DH2 datafile for DH1? > > > > > > Neil! > > IIRC there's nothing about the DH1 in the datafile. However > > there's a build > > article in an old FSM about a scratchbuilt DH1 that might be useful. > > D. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 07:55:14 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: 1/32 Caudron G4 Message-ID: <025501c13d0b$bbe70a60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ces't bien jolie! Looks like a good starting point for a styrene scratchbuilt project. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: [WWI] 1/32 Caudron G4 > Anyone for a card Caudron G4 in semaphore scale? > > http://www.digitalcardmodels.com/ > > > Looks good > > cheers > > Peter L > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3718 **********************