WWI Digest 3707 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: The last Belgian "Poilu" by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 2) Re: Palistinans have claimed that they did this .. by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 3) Re: God Bless America by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 4) Re: Marine Squadrons, Sad day in the USA by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 5) Re: Thoughts for USA by Sharon Henderson 6) Re: Terroist Attacks by "Mark Shannon" 7) Re: Thoughts for USA by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 8) Unhappy Picture.... :-( by Sharon Henderson 9) Re: twin towers by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 10) Re: Unhappy Picture.... :-( by "ibs4421" 11) Life goes on by Andreikor@aol.com 12) Re: twin towers by CAUhlir@aol.com 13) Re: Palistinans have claimed that they did this .. by "Gaston Graf" 14) Re: twin towers by "Steven Perry" 15) Re: God Bless America by PolTexCW@aol.com 16) Re: twin towers by "Gaston Graf" 17) Re: God Bless America by Karen Rychlewski 18) Random Thoughts by Karen Rychlewski 19) Re: God Bless America by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: twin towers by "Gaston Graf" 21) Re: twin towers by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 22) Re: God Bless America by "Gaston Graf" 23) Terroristic attack to the US by "Alberto Casirati" 24) Re: twin towers by "Gaston Graf" 25) Re: Random Thoughts by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 26) Air war and honor by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:18:05 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The last Belgian "Poilu" Message-ID: <18.121ed66e.28cfbd6d@aol.com> --part1_18.121ed66e.28cfbd6d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Present Arms!! Farewell to arms. In a message dated 9-11-01 1:46:30 PM GTB Daylight Time, ggraf@vo.lu writes: > The last Belgian survivor of World War One - Paul Ooghe - passed away last > Saturday at the age of 102 in the region of Bussels. He died three months > after the 106 year old Michiel Coghe who was the dean of the Belgian Poilus. > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > --part1_18.121ed66e.28cfbd6d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Present Arms!!  Farewell to arms.


In a message dated 9-11-01 1:46:30 PM GTB Daylight Time, ggraf@vo.lu writes:


The last Belgian survivor of World War One - Paul Ooghe - passed away last
Saturday at the age of 102 in the region of Bussels. He died three months
after the 106 year old Michiel Coghe who was the dean of the Belgian Poilus.

Gaston Graf
(ggraf@vo.lu)
Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at:
http://www.jastaboelcke.de


--part1_18.121ed66e.28cfbd6d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:19:35 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Palistinans have claimed that they did this .. Message-ID: <122.477e5ce.28cfbdc7@aol.com> --part1_122.477e5ce.28cfbdc7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can bet that it won't be a little Marine contingent in a building in Beiruit, nor some half-cocked Clintonite missile attack. In a message dated 9-11-01 5:08:45 PM GTB Daylight Time, rmoorhouse@ozemail.com.au writes: > Sorry for the bad spelling.. But I can see the USA getting involved in the > Mid east again :( > > Ross > --part1_122.477e5ce.28cfbdc7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can bet that it won't be a little Marine contingent in a building in
Beiruit, nor some half-cocked Clintonite missile attack.

In a message dated 9-11-01 5:08:45 PM GTB Daylight Time,
rmoorhouse@ozemail.com.au writes:


Sorry for the bad spelling.. But I can see the USA getting involved in the
Mid east again :(

Ross


--part1_122.477e5ce.28cfbdc7_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:21:43 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: God Bless America Message-ID: <13d.14314ef.28cfbe47@aol.com> --part1_13d.14314ef.28cfbe47_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a valid sentiment, and I will pray for them, and in the same breath condone their just reward. ~Steve di Giacomo In a message dated 9-11-01 5:17:06 PM GTB Daylight Time, Andreikor@aol.com writes: > > > > > > Please pray for the families whose lives have been destoyed by the > terrorist > attacks on the US this morning, that those responsible for these attacks > will > be found and that God will change the hearts of those contemplating further > such acts of barbarism. God Bless America. > > Andrei > --part1_13d.14314ef.28cfbe47_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a valid sentiment, and I will pray for them, and in the same breath
condone their just reward.
~Steve di Giacomo

In a message dated 9-11-01 5:17:06 PM GTB Daylight Time, Andreikor@aol.com
writes:







Please pray for the families whose lives have been destoyed by the
terrorist
attacks on the US this morning, that those responsible for these attacks
will
be found and that God will change the hearts of those contemplating further
such acts of barbarism. God Bless America.

Andrei


--part1_13d.14314ef.28cfbe47_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:26:58 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Marine Squadrons, Sad day in the USA Message-ID: <138.16c168c.28cfbf82@aol.com> --part1_138.16c168c.28cfbf82_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This makes Tojo and his gang look good by comparison. The attack on Pearl Harbor at least was an attack on a military target with Japanese forces in harm's way. The only similarity is that it means the start of a war. Maybe a number of wars. In a message dated 9-11-01 5:42:37 PM GTB Daylight Time, JVT7532@aol.com writes: > I have to go now, a terrible day for the USA, so many lives lost > and I think what these poor people must be suffering as I watch. I fear > that > this is the start of a real war, there is no way we can take this without > paying back whoever is responcible. This is much worse than Pearl Harbor. > > Best regards, > Jon > Jon V. Theisen > 7532 Lawndale Ave. > Phila., PA 19111-2706 > > > --part1_138.16c168c.28cfbf82_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This makes Tojo and his gang look good by comparison. The attack on Pearl
Harbor at least was an attack on a military target with Japanese forces in
harm's way.  The only similarity is that it means the start of a war.  Maybe
a number of wars.



In a message dated 9-11-01 5:42:37 PM GTB Daylight Time, JVT7532@aol.com
writes:


I have to go now, a terrible day for the USA, so many lives lost
and I think what these poor people must be suffering as I watch. I fear
that
this is the start of a real war, there is no way we can take this without
paying back whoever is responcible. This is much worse than Pearl Harbor.

                       Best regards,
                               Jon
Jon V. Theisen
7532 Lawndale Ave.
Phila., PA 19111-2706




--part1_138.16c168c.28cfbf82_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:34:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thoughts for USA Message-ID: <20010911193432.6180.qmail@web9802.mail.yahoo.com> Fernando, that was eloquently and beautifully put. Thank you and all our friends in other places, for all the love and support and caring! Blessings, Sharon --- Fernando Cecilio wrote: > (OT has no meaning right now) > I am deeply moved by what happened today in the > United States of America. > I hope the list survived without personal tragedy. > This was an act of absolute inhumanity. > Only justice will set at rest the victims souls.Only > Justice: revenge will > not be enough. > Each and everyone of us serves his God, and Reason > is not less exigent or > stern. > I will pray to God for help in understanding if > people are born equal how is > it possible to sink so deep as to be able to > aprticipate in an action like > this, and what may be done to prevent it. > In sorrow and solidarity > Fernando > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:36:54 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Terroist Attacks Message-ID: Let's be careful. The Palestinian groups have denied involvement, though they have been blaming the victim and saying that America deserved it. An anonymous caller in Yemen(?) said that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility, but apparently there was no use of codewords for authentication and the DFLP has denied involvement. They have actually given the most 'humanitarian' response of all the militant groups, saying they did not war against civilians and were not spreading their war outside of the 'Occupied Territories' and without the blame the victim. At this point, there are going to be a lot of accusations thrown around in rumors. Let's not spread the baseless rumors, and label personal speculation as just that. I just hope that all the proofs are found and shown quickly, before there is a lot of second guessing and chances to have 'America deserved it for their unwarranted actions against the ....' type propaganda takes over. This was a criminal act, whether directly state-sponsored or not, and those who planned, carried out, AND supported it should be dealt with in a manner akin to the removal of vermin. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:38:32 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thoughts for USA Message-ID: --part1_b9.13859ad0.28cfc238_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would be immoral and unconscionable NOT to react with extreme prejudice - accurate, researched, planned extreme prejudice. In a message dated 9-11-01 6:59:05 PM GTB Daylight Time, mbpw0220@mts.net writes: > In an interview with a woman grounded at the Montreal Airport she said that > her father (a WWII Vet) said that this is worse than the attack on Pearl > Harbour and that the US will have to react. > > Thoughts of strength and courage for all, Graham > --part1_b9.13859ad0.28cfc238_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would be immoral and unconscionable NOT to react with extreme prejudice
- accurate, researched, planned extreme prejudice.

In a message dated 9-11-01 6:59:05 PM GTB Daylight Time, mbpw0220@mts.net
writes:


In an interview with a woman grounded at the Montreal Airport she said that
her father (a WWII Vet) said that this is worse than the attack on Pearl
Harbour and that the US will have to react.

Thoughts of strength and courage for all, Graham


--part1_b9.13859ad0.28cfc238_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Unhappy Picture.... :-( Message-ID: <20010911195114.53421.qmail@web9804.mail.yahoo.com> satellite photo of nyc: http://origin.ssec.wisc.edu/~gumley/NY_ch01_scale.jpg My great fear is a backlash of violence against innocent people whose only "crime" is to be of Middle Eastern extraction... may God protect the innocent!! Blessings, Sharon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:56:34 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: twin towers Message-ID: <95.102951f5.28cfc672@aol.com> --part1_95.102951f5.28cfc672_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My personal experience refutes your view on prayer, Gaston. And, before his day of battle the knight holds his prayer vigil. Oh what action does follow that prayer. The attacks are those of completely craven cowards. It is easy to die for one's passion. It is heinous to take others with you. Living is the hard thing. The suicide hijackers could not have been more cowardly nor more inhuman. -Steve di Giacomo In a message dated 9-11-01 6:06:43 PM GTB Daylight Time, ggraf@vo.lu writes: > I never pray because praying comes to nothing - only acting does. But I feel > very sad and shocked and you all can be assured that my thoughts and all of > my feelings are with you all more than ever before. To me the USA are > synonymus for FREEDOM - the freedom they gave us back not so long ago... > > I really hope that F16 is able to shoot down the other jet that was reported > to head via Washington D.C.. > > When will the world finally get rid of these fantatic barbarians??? > > Gaston > --part1_95.102951f5.28cfc672_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My personal experience refutes your view on prayer, Gaston. And, before his
day of battle the knight holds his prayer vigil.  Oh what action does follow
that prayer.
    The attacks are those of completely craven cowards.  It is easy to die
for one's passion.  It is heinous to take others with you.  Living is the
hard thing.  The suicide hijackers could not have been more cowardly nor more
inhuman.
-Steve di Giacomo

In a message dated 9-11-01 6:06:43 PM GTB Daylight Time, ggraf@vo.lu writes:


I never pray because praying comes to nothing - only acting does. But I feel
very sad and shocked and you all can be assured that my thoughts and all of
my feelings are with you all more than ever before. To me the USA are
synonymus for FREEDOM - the freedom they gave us back not so long ago...

I really hope that F16 is able to shoot down the other jet that was reported
to head via Washington D.C..

When will the world finally get rid of these fantatic barbarians???

Gaston


--part1_95.102951f5.28cfc672_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:21:46 -0500 From: "ibs4421" To: Subject: Re: Unhappy Picture.... :-( Message-ID: <001901c13aff$61d4ebe0$883dfad1@ibs4421> My thoughts exactly Sharon. I have a dear friend and fraternity brother from college who is a member of the US Navy JAG who is Palestinean. He remembers Yassar Arafat staying at their house as a child. He and his cousin were my friends, and their view point and take on things growing up over there would make one think. Nevertheless, they were/are both good Christian boys who detest the thoght of terrorism,and are as "American" in their outlook, manners, and patriotism and the next guy. I fear a backlash as well. let's hope it doesn't happen. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:24:17 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Life goes on Message-ID: The country is still in shock, naturally, over the terrorist attacks on the USA today. No one seems to be able to focus on anything besides this terrible tragedy. I have noticed a distinct feeling among the list members that everything pales by comparison and suddenly nothing else seems important. It'll take a few days for this to sink in, I'm sure, but a thought occured to me... the aim of terrorism goes beyond taking lives. The aim is to disrupt the lives of those still living. I'd like to encourage fellow listees not to feel it is the least bit disrespectful to 'carry on' with life... and that includes our passions. Thank you to all the non-American list members for supporting us Americans and condemming these acts. I am leaving now to donate blood and I encourage anyone who can to do the same. I pray God will keep us all in good health. Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:35:54 EDT From: CAUhlir@aol.com To: Subject: Re: twin towers Message-ID: <161.bc7632.28cfcfae@aol.com> Before I left for work this morning, I made a point of putting the flag out on my house. I did it in memory of my countrymen who died today, in sadness for the world for what the terrorist may of unleashed upon all of us, to show the resolve of the United States to rise above this tragedy, to illustrate the deeply held American principles of justice for all. We may not always practice our principles to the fullest, but the spirit of my nation will never lets those principles perish. Perhaps this is the moment where the civilized nations of the world will finally act and say "ENOUGH"! We may be bloody, but we have not nor ever will be broken. Candice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:41:24 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: Palistinans have claimed that they did this .. Message-ID: > You can bet that it won't be a little Marine contingent in a building in > Beiruit, nor some half-cocked Clintonite missile attack. Do we really need this stupid Clinton-Bush thing now? To me it does not matter who is actually president of the US or what political party he is of, if he is a popular president or not, I only can say that I feel with him and the nation. For no means I would like to be in the presidents place now. My thoughts are with him as well as with all of you. in sadness and grief Gaston ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:50:23 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: twin towers Message-ID: <007f01c13b03$644b9460$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> A coworker's daughter in-law works in the WTC. It was a rough morning at the plant, but about 1pm he got a call and she had been there when the first plane hit and was able to get safely away. Much relief amidst the anger and anguish. Kind words, thoughts and prayers directed our way from around the world have ment a lot on this terrible day. I am afraid the necessity of demonstrating the utter un-profitability of such behavior is upon us. Should we fail to exercise our full power to all the terrorists and the governments who in any way support or shelter them, we and others will experience more and worse of what we had in NY & DC today. These barbarians took no half measures, I sincerely hope the United States doesn't either. My belicose thoughts in no way eclipse my concern and care for all whose lives were ended or forever altered by this tragedy. I am convinced they will not long remain the only ones so horribly touched if an overwhelming demonstration of force is not immediately forthcoming. I think I saw the phrase, "with extreme prejudice" used. That about sums it up. I have always thought the choice faced by WWI aircrews between fire and falling was horrible, but those brave men who got up and climbed into their aircraft were keenly aware of the possibility of having to make that choice. Those who jumped to their deaths from the towers today got up this morning with no inkling they would have to face that choice. They didn't know they were at war. We all know differently now. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:48:17 EDT From: PolTexCW@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: God Bless America Message-ID: <128.468b05a.28cfd291@aol.com> In a message dated 9/11/1 2:29:16 PM, ggraf@vo.lu writes: << I only can hope that the US governement will not make use of the nuke button to solve this problem... >> That is what it is there for - if not now, when? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:49:16 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: twin towers Message-ID: Stephen and all, we all have our different ways to deal with critical situations in our life. If your prayers help you to get over this horror I would be the last one to say you're doing something wrong. I only have my view on prayers and I am sorry if it does not match the majority but it's my opinion, nothing else. If only prayers would change the world... in solidarity and respect Gaston > > My personal experience refutes your view on prayer, Gaston. And, > before his > day of battle the knight holds his prayer vigil. Oh what action > does follow > that prayer. > The attacks are those of completely craven cowards. It is > easy to die > for one's passion. It is heinous to take others with you. Living is the > hard thing. The suicide hijackers could not have been more > cowardly nor more > inhuman. > -Steve di Giacomo > > > > > I never pray because praying comes to nothing - only acting > does.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:51:28 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: God Bless America Message-ID: <3B9E794F.2E031F37@earthlink.net> PolTexCW@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/11/1 2:29:16 PM, ggraf@vo.lu writes: > > << I only can hope that > the US governement will not make use of the nuke button to solve this > problem... >> > > That is what it is there for - if not now, when? NEVER ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:44:47 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: to post Subject: Random Thoughts Message-ID: <3B9E77BE.1813C673@earthlink.net> There is nothing more that I can say on the subject of the day's events than what has been said by the good people on this list. I profoundly thank all of our "off mainland" members for their expressions of support and condolence. Whether any of us were personally affected (which I fervently hope against), all Americans have been affected by this as it shocks us out of our complacency. This day has had a sense of unreality; watching the WTC 'implode' was like watching a Speilberg extravaganza...without the cheers. My thought was "O, the humanity" to plagiarize a famous exclamation. The sky here is clear blue--without an airplane or jet plume in sight--wherever you live, look up and think about that. I'm about 75 miles from the Somerset County crash site in PA On only one earlier post will I comment specifically: Gaston, please don't cancel your visits to the US. That's what the terrorists want; when we ALL (like people in many places on this earth) cower in our basements, afraid to be alive and live, the terrorists win. Everyone, stay healthy, stay calm, stay with your family if you're near, with your faith if you're so inclined. And thank you for being 'family' Karen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:57:41 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: God Bless America Message-ID: >From: PolTexCW@aol.com > >In a message dated 9/11/1 2:29:16 PM, ggraf@vo.lu writes: > ><< I only can hope that >the US governement will not make use of the nuke button to solve this >problem... >> > >That is what it is there for - if not now, when? Hopefully never. Where would you drop it right now? In all probability, this was a terrorist attack by a group that has no single base or country. They may be living in New Jersey, New York or Afghanistan. I work in downtown Washington, DC and hopefully, none of my friends died this morning. It's been a bad day but... I am going on with my life. No terrorist is going to stop me from carrying on. I am building my models tonight. I work for the U.S. Federal Government and I am going to work tomorrow. And that's it! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:57:40 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: twin towers Message-ID: I only can aggree with you, Candice! The European nations expressed already their solidarity with the US. Together they - WE - stand together against this terrorist barbarism. On German TV I just saw the pictures of Palestenians CELEBRATING the destruction of the WTC in the streets... I had to turn and walk away, to deep grew my hatred... I cannot believe these people are humans. Gaston > > > Before I left for work this morning, I made a point of putting > the flag out on my house. I did it in memory of my countrymen > who died today, in sadness for the world for what the terrorist > may of unleashed upon all of us, to show the resolve of the > United States to rise above this tragedy, to illustrate the > deeply held American principles of justice for all. We may not > always practice our principles to the fullest, but the spirit of > my nation will never lets those principles perish. Perhaps this > is the moment where the civilized nations of the world will > finally act and say "ENOUGH"! > > We may be bloody, but we have not nor ever will be broken. > > Candice > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:06:21 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Re: twin towers Message-ID: <00f301c13b05$9f365d60$0200a8c0@x.pl> I've just came back from work, and simultaneously turned on comp. and TV. It's real SHOCK. I feel with you, Americans. We all should be together now, praing to our God (if we belive him), or just thinking good about all of us (if we don't belive). This is not American thing, this is Whole Free World thing. In my small Poland I am with you very much, friends. I think, that America suffers now also for things, that she made not only for herself, but also for another nations. Thank you, America! G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:01:40 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: God Bless America Message-ID: > > > > PolTexCW@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/11/1 2:29:16 PM, ggraf@vo.lu writes: > > > > << I only can hope that > > the US governement will not make use of the nuke button to solve this > > problem... >> > > > > That is what it is there for - if not now, when? > > NEVER > TRUE! Do you want the planet crumble to nuklear dust, PolTex??? Gaston ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:40:16 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: Terroristic attack to the US Message-ID: <008401c13b04$d39d64a0$18e422d4@s> I know this cannot be of any real help, but I would like to express my deepest simpathy to any American listee. I really feel horrified and would like to do something to help. I sincerely hope the instigators of all this will be treated as they truly deserve. God Bless America ! Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:04:58 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: twin towers Message-ID: > I have always thought the choice faced by WWI aircrews between fire and > falling was horrible, but those brave men who got up and climbed > into their > aircraft were keenly aware of the possibility of having to make > that choice. > Those who jumped to their deaths from the towers today got up this morning > with no inkling they would have to face that choice. They didn't know they > were at war. We all know differently now. WW1 and maybe the aerial war of WW2 was the last wars that got fought with a certain sense of honor - today it are the wars of cowardice that are fought. sadly Gaston ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:08:16 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Random Thoughts Message-ID: --part1_e5.c041e55.28cfd740_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is not whether we change our lives because of this; it is merely our task to put an end to those who pose this threat. That our travel plans are changed is irrelavent except in so far as all changes contribute to the administration of the appropriate response. -Steve di Giacomo In a message dated 9-11-01 11:59:56 PM GTB Daylight Time, krychski@earthlink.net writes: > On only one earlier post will I comment specifically: > Gaston, please don't cancel your visits to the US. That's what the > terrorists want; when we ALL (like people in many places on this earth) > cower in our basements, afraid to be alive and live, the terrorists win. > > Everyone, stay healthy, stay calm, stay with your family if you're near, > with your faith if you're so inclined. > And thank you for being 'family' > > Karen --part1_e5.c041e55.28cfd740_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is not whether we change our lives because of this; it is merely our task
to put an end to those who pose this threat.  That our travel plans are
changed is irrelavent except in so far as all changes contribute to the
administration of the appropriate response.
-Steve di Giacomo

In a message dated 9-11-01 11:59:56 PM GTB Daylight Time,
krychski@earthlink.net writes:


On only one earlier post will I comment specifically:
Gaston, please don't cancel your visits to the US. That's what the
terrorists want; when we ALL (like people in many places on this earth)
cower in our basements, afraid to be alive and live, the terrorists win.

Everyone, stay healthy, stay calm, stay with your family if you're near,
with your faith if you're so inclined.
And thank you for being 'family'

Karen
--part1_e5.c041e55.28cfd740_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:25:43 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Air war and honor Message-ID: <011501c13b08$511b3800$0200a8c0@x.pl> > WW1 and maybe the aerial war of WW2 was the last wars that got > fought with a > certain sense of honor - today it are the wars of cowardice that are fought. > sadly > Gaston In WW2 there was little honour, I'm afraid. In September 1939 there was often and 'normal' thing on Polish roads, that German planes (glorious figters too) strafed civilians, even small kids. Also shooting pilots, who jumped with parachute was 'normal' for Germans. And all that begun presumably in 1937 in small Basque town of Guernica. Also Japs aviators in China were simply murderers. But it was all XX century. XXI just begun... G. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3707 **********************