WWI Digest 3683 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Projects in the Works by "dfernet0" 2) Re: What are peoples favorite scales ??? by "dfernet0" 3) Re: Farman Question by "Matt Bittner" 4) RE: Neil's Tabloid by Crawford Neil 5) RE: Hannover CL.II by "dfernet0" 6) RE: Neil's Tabloid by David Fleming 7) RE: Neil's Tabloid by "dfernet0" 8) Re: Signing off for Rhinebeck by Sharon Henderson 9) Re: Museum Aircraft (was RE: RE: Last German on fully retreat t by "Graham Hunter" 10) RE: Hannover CL.II by Dennis Ugulano 11) RE: Neil's Tabloid by Crawford Neil 12) RE: Hi, Honey, I'm Home! by "Graham Hunter" 13) RE: Neil's Tabloid by David Fleming 14) RE: Flugzeug - another magazine "gone west" by "Lance Krieg" 15) RE: Neil's Tabloid by Crawford Neil 16) Kit reviews by Andreikor@aol.com 17) Into the oven.... by Andreikor@aol.com 18) DH5 Roundels by Andreikor@aol.com 19) RE: Kit reviews by Crawford Neil 20) RE: DH5 Roundels by "dfernet0" 21) RE: Kit reviews - you say tomah-toes, I say... by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 22) Jager Rumpler by Didier Mario 23) Re: Jager Rumpler by David Fleming 24) Re: Flugzeug - another magazine "gone west" by "Hans Trauner" 25) Re: Munich Rumpler - correct Lozenge or not? RE: Re: Jager Rumpler - what scale? by "Hans Trauner" 26) RE: Kit reviews by "Hans Trauner" 27) Re: Projects in the Works by KarrArt@aol.com 28) Pfalz D.IIIa (was RE: RE: Kit reviews) by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 29) Re: Maurice Farman was Re:[Museum Aircraft] by KarrArt@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 07:41:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Projects in the Works Message-ID: <00f701c1352e$22d77d80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Shaun is working on: > 1/1 Black Kitten- a friend gave me a rescued 4 week old black kitten named > SILKIE Is it an Eastchurch or a Grain kitten? ;-) Take good care of him and you'll be rewarded! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 07:53:24 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Re: What are peoples favorite scales ??? Message-ID: <018101c1352f$d24bc2c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Shane wrote: > Riiiiight. We believe him, don't we Diego ;-) LOL! I can picture him jumping like a madman and throwing the monitor out the window as he read that... ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 05:53:54 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Farman Question Message-ID: <200109041052.DAA16225@pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Mon, 3 Sep 2001 01:24:29 -0400 (EDT), Todd Hayes wrote: > Of the Farman's used by the French, which models were > most common? All of 'em? Define common... If you're looking for the most produced, then maybe the MF.11, since a *lot* of other air forces used them (French, British, IRAS (I think), etc.). Difficult question, as you need to stipulate better parameters... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:18:23 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Neil's Tabloid Message-ID: Hi Greg, Thank you for noticing that. You may well be correct, I have sketches of the Tabloid prototype with 2-seats and the control wheel in the middle. I thought of doing it like that, but my reasoning is that this is a racer being prepared for the Schneider cup, they changed the engine from a 80hp to a 100hp Gnôme, engine power and weight means everything, so why lug an extra seat around the course, every unnecessary pound should be thrown out, so they put in a single seat. I may well be wrong. It would be easy to change, I've already moved the seat (thank you List for advice, I dissolved the white glue with water easily) But for the moment I think I will leave it as is. I'm on even dodgier ground with the instrument panel, this is for a Sopwith Baby, did they even have instrument panels in 1914? Problem is that there are no photos of the cockpit as it was during the Schneider trophy race, so it's all guesswork. While we are on the subject it's time again for one of the most important questions in life, what colour was the Sopwith text and race numbers!? In fact I have decided on dark red for the following reasons: 1. It can't be black, on photos that are not over-exposed it's obviously lighter in tone than (for instance) the dark suits being worn. 2. Which leaves red or blue as likely candidates. 3. The Sopwith text was for advertisment so red is flashier. 4. Tom Sopwith had good taste (like me!) so decided on dark red because it looks nicer against the cream fabric. Please let me know if I'm wrong before Anders Bruun does the decals, he is doing one in 1/48 and has promised me decals for mine too. If anyone else needs the decals I would recommend becoming a member of the IPMS Racing&Record breaking SIG, in fact I recommend that anyway! /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Grzegorz Mazurowski [mailto:grzem@yahoo.com] > Sent: den 4 september 2001 00:49 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Neil's Tabloid > > > Hi Neil! > Prepare for troubles! > In detailed references I've found in Polish 'Aeroplan > magazine, there is > clearly written and drawn, that Tabloid was two seater (!!!) > side by side, > with control column on left (both prototype and Schneider). > Maybe list can comment that? > It was hard decision for me to write you about it, as you > made a lot of work > on it. > My references looks serious, article is written by Wieslaw > Schier, who very > precisely reconstructed documentations of many Polish > airplanes from '20s > and '30s. So I trust him. > > If you want, I can xerox it for you and send across Baltic sea. > > Greetings > Grzegorz > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:14:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Hannover CL.II Message-ID: <02ed01c13543$8ba1c400$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Superb! 10 hours? How do you do to see the blur caused by your fingers moving around the model? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Ugulano To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:59 AM Subject: [WWI] Hannover CL.II > Everyone, > > As promised the Hannover CL.II is on line. It's under Other Stuff > in the first pull down menu. > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm > Page Revised 8/22/01 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:15:13 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Neil's Tabloid Message-ID: <3B94D3E0.19F7CB49@dial.pipex.com> Crawford Neil wrote: > > > While we are on the subject it's time again for one of the > most important questions in life, what colour was the Sopwith > text and race numbers!? In fact I have decided on dark red for > the following reasons: > > 1. It can't be black, on photos that are not over-exposed it's obviously > lighter in tone than (for instance) the dark suits being worn. > > 2. Which leaves red or blue as likely candidates. > > 3. The Sopwith text was for advertisment so red is flashier. > > 4. Tom Sopwith had good taste (like me!) so decided on dark red because > it looks nicer against the cream fabric. > > Please let me know if I'm wrong before Anders Bruun does the decals, > he is doing one in 1/48 and has promised me decals for mine too. > If anyone else needs the decals I would recommend becoming a member of > the IPMS Racing&Record breaking SIG, in fact I recommend that anyway! > /Neil C. Neil, I think they were red outlined in black - somewhere I have a photo in a magazine that shows faintly the outline. I also think it carried it's race number on the upper wing - I'll try and find that article(s). Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:30:49 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Neil's Tabloid Message-ID: <031f01c13545$cfafb920$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Divid wrote: > I think they were red outlined in black - somewhere I have a photo in > a magazine that shows faintly the outline. I also think it carried it's race > number on the upper wing - I'll try and find that article(s). Wow, I think that the outlined letters would look even better. Go for it, Neil! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 06:23:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Signing off for Rhinebeck Message-ID: <20010904132341.94003.qmail@web9801.mail.yahoo.com> Well, as Lyle and others head FOR Rhinebeck, I am just back from a sidetrip there on the way home from helping my sister move this past weekend. Got there about halfway through the WW1 airshow, well in time to see the Jenny fly, and see the DVII go up -- God what a religious experience it is, to see that sweet plane hanging on its prop in that uniquely DVII maneuver!! Woo! :-) The Black Baron is still flying the Alb in von Schleich's colours; I saw the remains of the Tripe in the "Fokker Hangar" -- wings off, fuselage stripped, and the seriously busted prop on the floor near the entrance tells the tale of what a ground loop can do. Ouch.... Not exactly on topic, but Rhinebeck is fulfilling Palen's dream of re-creating Lindbergh's "Spirit" as close to correct as humanly possible -- and it was really exciting to see the progress they've made so far. They're trying to get it done in time to fly for the 75th anniv. of Lindy's flight -- the wing is under construction, and you can see the fuselage, most of the controls done, and the gorgeous repro of the wicker seat -- they've even gone so far as to make sure the wicker is of the same diameter as the original, so that there are the same number of rows to the weave!! amazing... The detail on the wing work was stunning. Absolutely stunning. Made me want to instantly quit my day job... :-) Anyway, I never have a bad time at Rhinebeck. Wish I could be there next weekend, but I hope you folks have a grand time! Cheers, Rev. Sharon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:31:20 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: Re: Museum Aircraft (was RE: RE: Last German on fully retreat t Message-ID: <001401c13545$e2cbb0e0$fa0101c0@grahamh> The museum in Ottawa Canada has Barker's Snipe albeit in pieces. Graham ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:30:16 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Hannover CL.II Message-ID: <200109040930_MC3-DEA7-48D1@compuserve.com> D, Thank you. You have to look at the model and see why it took so little time to build. It is basic. Almost no interior, no rib tapes, no modifications or corrections. Just your straight out of the box model. And the kit is a good kit. No major work need to be done to make the model look good. A little putty, add decals, taaa daaa! One completed kit. Another reason why building for someone else can be relaxing. They are not expecting nor paying for a contest quality model. They just want something on their shelf that looks good. Most quick builds fulfill that need for both parties. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 9/04/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:32:16 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Neil's Tabloid Message-ID: Dave, You fascinate me, are you sure, we've been looking at those letters for months, and ne'er have we seen a black outline. I'm talking about the 1914 Schneider trophy winner, just to be sure we're talking the same plane. Please do try and find that article, I'd love to see it. /Neil (have to go home and have another look!) > Neil, I think they were red outlined in black - somewhere I > have a photo in > a magazine that shows faintly the outline. I also think it > carried it's race > number on the upper wing - I'll try and find that article(s). > > Dave > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:54:51 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Hi, Honey, I'm Home! Message-ID: <002001c13549$2bce2720$fa0101c0@grahamh> Welcome back Jack :-) << Eric can add my bucket of drool to the rest LOL Graham ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:05:19 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Neil's Tabloid Message-ID: <3B94DF9F.5553C886@dial.pipex.com> Crawford Neil wrote: > Dave, You fascinate me, are you sure, we've been looking at > those letters for months, and ne'er have we seen a black outline. > I'm talking about the 1914 Schneider trophy winner, just to be > sure we're talking the same plane. Please do try and find that article, > I'd love to see it. > /Neil (have to go home and have another look!) I'll try and find it - it was a letter in an old issue of Wingspan. But, if you have the Mini Datafile on the Tabloid, have a look at the upper photo on page 2, and the lower on page 3. there is definitely a darker outline round the 'Sopwith' , and possibly the '3' as well - now these may just be signwriter's outlines, but one you notice them, you start seeing them in other aircraft with the 'Sopwith' on the fuselage > > > Neil, I think they were red outlined in black - somewhere I > > have a photo in > > a magazine that shows faintly the outline. I also think it > > carried it's race > > number on the upper wing - I'm now thinking that may have been 'underwing', but my mind is going ! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 09:31:01 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: Flugzeug - another magazine "gone west" Message-ID: Matt observes: "Icare is only available direct, and ...is much more expensive." This is true, and the OT content is surprisingly limited. Matt, I believe you have the particulars in the magazines I sent you. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:38:18 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Neil's Tabloid Message-ID: Yes, I have the mini-datafile, I can hardly wait to get home! The race-numbers were underwing and on the tail, so your mind is still all there, thanks. /Neil Ps. I was talking to Anders, and he says that the racer was definitely a single-seater, BUT there was an extra fuel tank beside the seat, so maybe the seat was offset, I might have to re-arrange the cockpit after all! I'll try and find it - it was a letter in an old issue of > Wingspan. But, if > you have the Mini Datafile on the Tabloid, have a look at the > upper photo > on page 2, and the lower on page 3. there is definitely a > darker outline > round the 'Sopwith' , and possibly the '3' as well - now > these may just be > signwriter's outlines, but one you notice them, you start > seeing them in > other aircraft with the 'Sopwith' on the fuselage > > > > > > Neil, I think they were red outlined in black - somewhere I > > > have a photo in > > > a magazine that shows faintly the outline. I also think it > > > carried it's race > > > number on the upper wing - > > I'm now thinking that may have been 'underwing', but my mind > is going ! > > Dave > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:50:29 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Kit reviews Message-ID: <21.108de7a0.28c64435@aol.com> Matt asked: Absolutely... what good is a kit review if you don't? Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:50:44 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Into the oven.... Message-ID: <35.1a5ee8af.28c64444@aol.com> Grzes wrote: LOL... touche' :) Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:51:03 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: DH5 Roundels Message-ID: <59.f6e4621.28c64457@aol.com> Cam asked: Cam... see if you can get your hands on the Ragwings Bristol Scout. Those roundels are perfect for a DH5, or try Super Scale's #72-6 (WWI British Roundels). Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:56:17 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Kit reviews Message-ID: Absolutely agree, I hate diplomatic reviews, but I do understand the reasons for them. Someone like Ray Rimell is forced to be polite, luckily you can usually read between lines. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreikor@aol.com [mailto:Andreikor@aol.com] > Sent: den 4 september 2001 16:54 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Kit reviews > > > Matt asked: > these types of (what I call) major flaws be pointed out?> > > Absolutely... what good is a kit review if you don't? > Cheers, > Andrei > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 12:05:36 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: DH5 Roundels Message-ID: <045101c13553$0d859320$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> There's one of those currently on auction in Ebay. Neat kit. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:56 AM Subject: [WWI] DH5 Roundels > Cam asked: > bought the Blue Rider RFC/RNAS roundals but none > of them fit the DH5. Who sells a sheet of DH5 decals?> > > Cam... see if you can get your hands on the Ragwings Bristol Scout. Those > roundels are perfect for a DH5, or try Super Scale's #72-6 (WWI British > Roundels). > Cheers, > Andrei > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:43:27 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Kit reviews - you say tomah-toes, I say... Message-ID: <20010904154327.63237.qmail@web20003.mail.yahoo.com> Hi People! FWIW I completely agree with Matt: IMHO, in a "perfect" review the kit's characteristics, accuracy and detail must be referred to and, if there's a production fault the reviewer must state it. 1 - For characteristics I mean if it's a short run type, etc, if there's flash, if detail is raised or sunk, soft or hard. 2 - Accuracy should be evaluated against a specific stated source: compared to plan x in issue y of publication z. Within accuracy we should consider historical accuracy, a spandau armed Camel, SPAD A4 decals for an A2 model, etc. 3 - Detail quality evaluation should clear if there is incorrect or missing panels, type of rib representation, extension of engine/interior detailing, etc 4 - A production fault, in my opinion, is a systematically warped or badly moulded part. To be usefull and fair all reviews should be comparative (besides this model there's another from manufacturer A, produced x years ago that...) If the reviewer doesn't know if there are other models of the same subject he should say so. I, personally, wouldn't accept to review a model of a subject I was not really familiar with for fear of making a fool of myself. I can usually do that quite well in private circles and I just don't feel the need for that kind of exposure. Besides this, I think the reviewer should always refrain from statements like "I just didn't like so and so". After all, I hear there are people in the world that don't like to eat snails... Fernando > > Matt asked: > > > these types of (what I call) major flaws be > pointed out?> > > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:59:26 +0200 From: Didier Mario To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Jager Rumpler Message-ID: <3B94FA5E.9D439F6@iol.it> Hi, I have just received the Rumpler C IV from Jager. It comes in a box with a colour picture on its front, the resin and metal parts are carefully packed and well cast. The wings come from a CSM castings and they are beautifully detailed with thin rib tapes and very fine edges, no warp at all, the fuselage is cast in one piece and the castings are from Cromwell models with only a few bubbles (but most are underskin), it has an opening in its underside from which the floor will be inserted, the engine is a nice Mercedes D IV with only its upper side reproduced being the lower one not visible, very nice metal parts have been produced by aeroclub, in this material are produced all the struts,(perfectly straight and with pins at their end to be inserted in wing holes) undercarriage legs, exhaust, tail skid and bombs, a well printed set of decals and a photoetched parabellum with resin body from CSM is provided. This is a kit which will make happy many of us and I higly recomend it to all modellers with a little experience; please, hurry up I am the seventh and only 223 kits are still at disposition. Thanks a lot Justin for your work and seriousness. Mario Didier ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 17:08:31 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jager Rumpler Message-ID: <3B94FC7E.2D07A380@dial.pipex.com> Didier Mario wrote: > > The wings come from a CSM castings and they are beautifully detailed with thin > rib tapes and very fine edges, no warp at all, the fuselage is cast in one > piece and the castings are from Cromwell models with only a few bubbles (but > most are underskin), Interesting. My first experience with PU resin was a Cromwell 1/76th AFV (OT SAS Landrover) all of 14 years ago !! They and Milicast were amongst the pioneers of that type of resin for kits - I recall them advising that you could use tube cement to join parts. It actually acted as a cement rather than a solvent, but was remarkably effective for tracks to chassis etc. Must try it on an a/c some time. dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:36:51 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Flugzeug - another magazine "gone west" Message-ID: <005b01c1355f$ccb58d20$a9a172d4@FRITZweb> Flugzeug did make his last issue last week. As Volker stated, the title will be merged with 'Fligzeug Classic' which is some sort of a german Aeroplane Monthly. The did not go bankrupt, the publisher is for both magazines the same ( GeraNova, Munich). I, this is my very personal view, will not miss Flugzeug very much. It's really outdated now ( and nearly less any OT articles!). Layout was mediocre, and articles sometimes very, very offside. Modelling articles where boring.... Reminds me a little on the fate of Scale Models... Heint Birkholz, the first editor, knew what he did when he left this title and founded 'Jet & Prob' in 1991. He retired with the beginning of this year. Heinz was the very first editor of any modelling magazines in Germany. Flugzeug Classic now is a modern magazine, not 'Luftwaffe-minded', with a lot of colour pics and a few modelling articles. Hans ( Can't give the usual disclaimer. Being guilty. Have done a Pfalz for them) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Volker Häusler" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 6:30 AM Subject: [WWI] Flugzeug - another magazine "gone west" > .Just received a mail from a friend in Germany telling me he got a letter > from Herr Lang, the publisher of the German magazine "Flugzeug", stating > they have ceased operation (went bankrupt, it seems). The magazine will be > merged with the newer publication "Flugzeug Classic", which is something > like a spin off of "The Aeroplane". > > Important for us with OT interest: "Flugzeug" also published the "Flugzeug > Profile" series, which included the excelolent volume on the Albatros D II > (with close to *100* photos of the D II!) and the volume on early German > cockpits, with roughly 50 % of the content dealing with OT cockpits. > > These might be gone now as well, but I'm not sure about this. > > BTW, someone (Steven Wood?) mailed me offlist to enquire on a no German > source for "Flugzeug" during my trip in the last weeks. Not sure about a non > German source, but Christian Schmitt of Munich (website under > http://www.christian-schmidt.com/ ) might be a potential alternative. > > Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:40:24 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Munich Rumpler - correct Lozenge or not? RE: Re: Jager Rumpler - what scale? Message-ID: <007101c13560$4baac5a0$a9a172d4@FRITZweb> Gaston wants to know: > btw: does anybody know if the Lozenge camouflage of the Rumpler on my > website is correct? It looks a bit pale to me. Yes, Gaston, it's quite good. The problem is, they used 'underside' loz all over. That's why it's so looking pale. I tried to ask them why they did it and asked them for a restauration report. They did not made one. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:56:27 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Kit reviews Message-ID: <00af01c13562$89d3a2a0$a9a172d4@FRITZweb> Ladies and Gentlemen, as a reviewer you have to write between the lines. You have to be polite. Producers read the reviews and the magazines get review samples and the mags sell adverts to the producers. No problem if you write ' 5mm to short', but you have to be some sort of 'PC'. I had strong agruments with my editor years ago, as I had the opinion if the kit is lousy you have to write that. He agreed (sometimes), but it was common to express that only for kits below the 'C' grade ( Hustad's scale). For 'B' and 'C' it was, and is, usual to give hints, but no harsh words. Maybe more intepended internet based reviews will change that. On the other hand: Facts ( measurements, f.e.) are facts. But sometimes the reviews are very personal. I like Ray Rimell's style very much, as he gives you room for your own opinion. And sometimes some problem is easy solved by the one modeller and the same problem drive the other one nuts. Do you remember Roden's Pfalz? I strongly dislike the horizontal division line in the fuselage caused by the wish to have both ( DIII and DIIIa) versions in the same mould. Most listees did not have a problem with that. So, tell the facts and express your opinion, but give others a chance to have their own. Hans ( Sorry for the lenght, but this problem bothered my for years..) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 5:00 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Kit reviews > Absolutely agree, I hate diplomatic reviews, but I do > understand the reasons for them. Someone like Ray Rimell > is forced to be polite, luckily you can usually read between > lines. > /Neil C. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andreikor@aol.com [mailto:Andreikor@aol.com] > > Sent: den 4 september 2001 16:54 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] Kit reviews > > > > > > Matt asked: > > > these types of (what I call) major flaws be pointed out?> > > > > Absolutely... what good is a kit review if you don't? > > Cheers, > > Andrei > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:08:28 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Projects in the Works Message-ID: <79.1a8d08bf.28c6648c@aol.com> In a message dated 9/4/01 12:39:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, shonmania@earthlink.net writes: << 1/48 scratchbuilb HP 0/400- I've always wanted to do a BIG project, and all things considered, the 0/400 isn't all that complex. Right now I'm just working up my drawing and ref photos. >> Hah Hah Hah Hah HAH! If you get around to this project, I'd offer my advice and help, but I'm still too sick of the damned airplane....but if you're interested in one guy's struggle, head to: http://members.aol.com/karrart/index.htm scroll just a tad and click on the Handley Page article! RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:51:05 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Pfalz D.IIIa (was RE: RE: Kit reviews) Message-ID: <000201c1356a$510f5790$581ba8c0@officesp.starmedia> > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Hans > Trauner > > Do you remember Roden's > Pfalz? I strongly > dislike the horizontal division line in the fuselage caused > by the wish to > have both ( DIII and DIIIa) versions in the same mould. Most > listees did not > have a problem with that. Hans and list folks, I'm building the Pfalz D.IIIa and you are right. Although I really loved the kit, I couldn't hide the horizontal line. Well, of course for me it's nothing to worry about, the Pfalz is better than my Fokker. I hope that I'll finish it in two or three weekends and, then, you know, pictures! All the best from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil +55 11 30436421 marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:37:37 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Maurice Farman was Re:[Museum Aircraft] Message-ID: <10c.5092804.28c67971@aol.com> In a message dated 9/1/01 6:40:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cameron@prontomail.com writes: << That plane has a bizarre history, it was bought by the AFC for training in Australia and served through 1916 - 1919. It was then was bought by a Californian I think, not quite sure why they would buy a used and imported Farman when the world had excess stocks of better WWI aircraft that could be used civilly. It finally worked it's way up to Canada. >> The old Frank Tallman Farman. Bought and imported by him in the mid-50s and flown around Southern California- several photos show Tallman tootling around the Orange County skies. I saw the ol' gal in the 60's when she used to live at the TallMantz museum at Orange County airport. You walked through the door and she greeted you from the left, and the Spad VII grinned form the right! RK ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3683 **********************