WWI Digest 3670

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Odp: Re: Dennis's Triplane
	by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
  2) RE: Spad BBQ... 
	by "Marcio Antonio Campos" <marcio.campos@starmedia.net>
  3) Re: Wight
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
  4) RE: Odp: RE: New Polish contest
	by Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
  5) Re: Wight
	by "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
  6) RE: New Polish Diego
	by Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
  7) Re: Polish Alb and Mike Grant
	by Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
  8) RE: New Polish Diego
	by "Marcio Antonio Campos" <marcio.campos@starmedia.net>
  9) Jasta 11 "Blue Tail" (was RE: Odp: Re: Dennis's Triplane)
	by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
 10) RE: One more for the Spad
	by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
 11) RE: French 1/72 Vacs Coming!
	by "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
 12) New update
	by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
 13) RE: New Polish Diego
	by "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
 14) Re: New update
	by Allan Wright <aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu>
 15) RE: New Polish Diego
	by "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 16) RE: New Polish Diego
	by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
 17) Re: New update
	by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
 18) Re: Meikraft
	by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
 19) RE: New Polish Diego
	by "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
 20) RE: New Polish Diego
	by Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
 21) Re: Odp: Re: Odp: Re: Dennis's Triplane
	by Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
 22) RE: New Polish Diego
	by "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
 23) New Model Gallery
	by Allan Wright <aew>
 24) Odp: RE: New Polish Diego
	by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
 25) Polish Wanda
	by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
 26) Re: Jager Miniatures'Rumpler C.IV
	by ERIC HIGHT <copperst@sd.fastq.com>
 27) OOP kits and Books was: Re:Meikraft Kits
	by John_Impenna@hyperion.com
 28) Re: Am I wight 
	by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
 29) OT Book
	by David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
 30) Loon-Ebay -ot
	by David Fleming <david_fleming@btconnect.com>
 31) Re: Dennis's Triplane
	by "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:41:01 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Odp: Re: Dennis's Triplane
Message-ID: <019301c1321a$31b57a80$0200a8c0@x.pl>

Dennis!
The red one!
(looking for cover)
G.
And to be serious, there is red-blue Jasta 11 scheme with black swastika
(Hakenkreuz) on fuselage between cockpit and iron cross on both sides and on
turtledeck.
Front of fuselage and cowling red to the back of cockpit, tail all light
blue (even rudder), gear struts blue, inner wing struts red, main struts
olive, wings undersurf. blue, uppersurf. streaked on CDL. Iron crosses with
white outline. Maybe this would be good compromise beween streaked and solid
one?
G.

> How many solid colored triplanes were out there.  I only know of a
> few: Jacobs black one, Weiss' white one.  Any others?  I can do the
> streaked green but it is not a favorite of mine



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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:40:04 -0300
From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" <marcio.campos@starmedia.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: Spad BBQ... 
Message-ID: <002801c1321a$0f7c56f0$581ba8c0@br.starmedia.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of
> Crawford Neil
>
> Well cook-ups seem to have no rules, and I'm not even 
> sure Marcio knows about this one. So seeing as Brazilian
> Spads were post WWI,

Hi, folks!

We used Spads between 1920 and 1928. Source: www.aviacao.militar.nom.br

All the best from Brazil

Marcio Antonio Campos
Redator do GuiaSP
StarMedia do Brasil
+55 11 30436421
marcio.campos@starmedia.net <mailto:marcio.campos@starmedia.net> 
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http://www.guiarj.com.br <http://www.guiarj.com.br> 
http://www.nacidade.com.br <http://www.nacidade.com.br> 

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:40:31 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Wight
Message-ID: <F180YLowspDKicUbvBD00000e4d@hotmail.com>

>From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
>Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org
>To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
>Subject: [WWI] RE: Odp: RE: Odp: RE: New Polish contest
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:14:07 -0400 (EDT)
>
>I'm beginning to have my doubts about the whole thing,
>if you're right D, which you probably are, then it should
>be spelt White (I think). I must look this up.
>/Neil C.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar]
> > Sent: den 31 augusti 2001 13:01
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: [WWI] RE: Odp: RE: Odp: RE: New Polish contest
> >
> >
> > Grzegorz asked:
> > > OK, but WIGHT ?
> >
> > That is, just like the british island.
> > D.
> >


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:42:00 +0200
From: Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: Odp: RE: New Polish contest
Message-ID: <3B8F8618.99CF77A2@bg.am.lodz.pl>

Tomasz Gronczewski napisał(a):
> 
> > Grzegorz - he got you :-))).
> > I have kit of Port-Victoria PV-7 so it must be manufacturer
> 
> No, no, I wouldn't count PV-7 as a full size true aircraft. :o)

I has wings and propeller, it can fly so it IS a plane 

-- 
           Witold Kozakiewicz

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:44:44 
From: "Michael Kendix" <mkendix@hotmail.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Wight
Message-ID: <F101n1KVHYS8YV2btIX0000216d@hotmail.com>

>From: Crawford Neil <Neil.Crawford@volvo.com>
>
>I'm beginning to have my doubts about the whole thing,
>if you're right D, which you probably are, then it should
>be spelt White (I think). I must look this up.
>/Neil C.


Sorry about that blank message prior.

Wight is correct as Dennis Ugulano says.  If the assembly plant was near 
Southampton, England, it might have been named for the Isle of Wight, which 
is directly across from Southampton on the south coast.  Southampton and the 
Isle of Wight are separated by a strip of water called "The Solent".  Isle 
of Wight is also famous for the 1970 concert that took place there (the 
English "Woodstock") featuring Jimi Hendrix et al.

Michael

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:51:47 +0200
From: Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <3B8F8863.3D1E7A0C@bg.am.lodz.pl>

dfernet0 napisał(a):

> Well, now where's my price? Should I travel to Poland to cash it? ;-)

Diego, It would be pleasure to meet you. I think that free tour on Polish
Aviation Museum in Krakow with Grzegorz, Tomasz and me will be nice.

And esspecially for you next question - Few days ago Ardpol released new DFW
C.V. What name has Polish version of this plane painted below pilots cockpit ??
;o))))

-- 
           Witold Kozakiewicz

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:57:56 +0200
From: Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Polish Alb and Mike Grant
Message-ID: <3B8F89D4.FB1C9A63@bg.am.lodz.pl>

Tomasz Gronczewski napisał(a):

> "Lepszy wrobel w garsci niz kanarek na dachu" means "a sparrow kept in a
> hand is better than a canary seen on a roof"

More popular version:
Lepszy wrobel w garsci niz golab na dachu - 
 pigeon instead canary

-- 
           Witold Kozakiewicz

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:03:07 -0300
From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" <marcio.campos@starmedia.net>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <003101c1321d$4835f2a0$581ba8c0@br.starmedia.com>

Witold says
> Diego, It would be pleasure to meet you. I think that free
> tour on Polish
> Aviation Museum in Krakow with Grzegorz, Tomasz and me will be nice.

D.

I'd follow the advice. Krakow is really a very beautiful city. Just in front
of my keyboard there's a little wooden Madonna (the saint, not the singer) I
bought there.

With best regards

Marcio Antonio Campos
Redator do GuiaSP
StarMedia do Brasil
+55 11 30436421
marcio.campos@starmedia.net <mailto:marcio.campos@starmedia.net>
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:04:41 -0000
From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Jasta 11 "Blue Tail" (was RE: Odp: Re: Dennis's Triplane)
Message-ID: <ABF4AD37EF64D511927E000102CCAD9666F375@fssgde04.stratcom.mil>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grzegorz Mazurowski [mailto:grzem@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 7:37 AM

> And to be serious, there is red-blue Jasta 11 scheme with 
> black swastika
> (Hakenkreuz) on fuselage between cockpit and iron cross on 
> both sides and on
> turtledeck.
> Front of fuselage and cowling red to the back of cockpit, 
> tail all light
> blue (even rudder), gear struts blue, inner wing struts red, 
> main struts
> olive, wings undersurf. blue, uppersurf. streaked on CDL. 
> Iron crosses with
> white outline. Maybe this would be good compromise beween 
> streaked and solid
> one?

Sorry, but that's old information.  The latest take on this Jasta 11 bird (I
know, because I built it) is the rest of the airframe was streaked.  The
thinking is a very heavy streaking, hence everyone thinking solid red up
front.

Chris Cato has a page with images from the US IPMS 2001 Nats.  You can see
my Tripe there.  Unfortunately I can't post it anywhere else until I finish
the other two Tripes and write the article for IM.  One of these years...
:-)


Matt Bittner

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:05:56 -0000
From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: One more for the Spad
Message-ID: <ABF4AD37EF64D511927E000102CCAD9666F383@fssgde04.stratcom.mil>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 7:11 AM

> I'm scribbling the pilot's office of this bird. How do you 
> think that the
> controls looked like? A wheel? A simple stick with a blip 
> button comme des
> nieuports?

Stick, like the rest of the SPADs (i.e. 7 and 13).  I just stuck my stick on
my console for the Amodel I'm building...and cut it too short...Arggghh!


Matt Bittner

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:07:54 +0200
From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: French 1/72 Vacs Coming!
Message-ID: <NDBBIELFOLLOBGEOAOAAKEDPDJAA.gronczewski@interia.pl>

> Be a hero - draw your own drawings, bang a copyright notice on it and then
> build a model from it. Just as you finish, one mainstream, two vacform,
> three resin and assorted shortrun kit producers will release perfectly goo
d
> kits for the rest of us ;-)


Buhahaha!!!
Sha... Shane, ju... ju... just can't stop laughing. You must have been very,
very experienced.

Tomasz
























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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:08:28 -0000
From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: New update
Message-ID: <ABF4AD37EF64D511927E000102CCAD9666F3A0@fssgde04.stratcom.mil>

Just before I left for work this morning, I updated the site - big time.
Too many to list here, just go to the "News" page and look for yourself.

I do want to say that each and every model I put up are excellent pieces of
work!

Oh, and yes, since I was rushing this morning, there are a couple of broken
links, so I do know about them.  Unfortunately I won't be able to do
anything about it until I get back home tonight.

Okay, now can I have time to work on models, please?  This update kept me
away from my modeling time for three days... :-)


Matt Bittner
WW1 Site Assistant Editor

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:10:07 +0200
From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <NDBBIELFOLLOBGEOAOAAAEEADJAA.gronczewski@interia.pl>

> Diego, It would be pleasure to meet you. I think that free tour on Polish
> Aviation Museum in Krakow with Grzegorz, Tomasz and me will be nice.

Diego, now you can't withdraw! We're waiting!

> And esspecially for you next question - Few days ago Ardpol released new D
FW
> C.V. What name has Polish version of this plane painted below pilots cockp
it ??
> ;o))))

Let me guess.... You mean that photo of the smiling crew sitting in the cock
pit and pointing painted abbreviation from
"We Anticipate Name Diego'll Apply"?

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:15:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Allan Wright <aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New update
Message-ID: <200108311315.JAA09243@mustang.sr.unh.edu>

People can send things to me too - I did an update yesterday with 
a photo upload for Sopwith Pup and models from Marc Flake.

Al

> 
> Just before I left for work this morning, I updated the site - big time.
> Too many to list here, just go to the "News" page and look for yourself.
> 
> I do want to say that each and every model I put up are excellent pieces of
> work!
> 
> Oh, and yes, since I was rushing this morning, there are a couple of broken
> links, so I do know about them.  Unfortunately I won't be able to do
> anything about it until I get back home tonight.
> 
> Okay, now can I have time to work on models, please?  This update kept me
> away from my modeling time for three days... :-)
> 
> 
> Matt Bittner
> WW1 Site Assistant Editor
> 


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:19:05 -0400
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <00b101c1321f$88b93a60$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com>

> > And esspecially for you next question - Few days ago Ardpol released new
D
> FW
> > C.V. What name has Polish version of this plane painted below pilots
cockp
> it ??
> > ;o))))
>
> Let me guess.... You mean that photo of the smiling crew sitting in the
cock
> pit and pointing painted abbreviation from
> "We Anticipate Name Diego'll Apply"?

The only Polish Wanda I've heard of was an LVG C.V
sp


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:25:10 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <01e101c13220$5deadd60$0200a8c0@x.pl>



> > Diego, It would be pleasure to meet you. I think that free tour on
Polish
> > Aviation Museum in Krakow with Grzegorz, Tomasz and me will be nice.
>
> Diego, now you can't withdraw! We're waiting!

I only sign that invitation, all is said above!
G.


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:20:16 -0000
From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: New update
Message-ID: <ABF4AD37EF64D511927E000102CCAD9666F440@fssgde04.stratcom.mil>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan Wright [mailto:aew@mustang.sr.unh.edu]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:17 AM

> People can send things to me too - I did an update yesterday with 
> a photo upload for Sopwith Pup and models from Marc Flake.

Yes, please!  People send to Allan too!  There's no reason why I should have
all the fun. ;-)

This reminds me.  I have "real" Junkers D.I images from Karen to put up
(they'll go up this weekend) and a ton (actually pretty close) of photos
from Lance to scan of his trip to "that French museum". ;-)  Those will be
added when I have time, throughout the millenium. :-)


Matt Bittner
Really thankful for Dreamweaver now!!!

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:17:38 -0000
From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" <BITTNERM@stratcom.mil>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Meikraft
Message-ID: <ABF4AD37EF64D511927E000102CCAD9666F415@fssgde04.stratcom.mil>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fernando Cecilio [mailto:f_cec@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:47 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list

> I was following the line and I'd like to add the Pfalz
> DIII. I have one of them (besides the Caproni that's
> waiting for the time I believe I won't ruin it...)
> and, besides being moulded in the most outlandish
> colours (white and lemon-yellow if I remember right)
> and lots and lots of flash it seems to be quite nice.
> I haven't built it yet, courtesy of Chris Gannon.
> The Pfalz DIII seems to have been based on the
> Rareplanes vac, or am I wrong?
> About current Meikraft prices I sometimes can't
> believe them...but then, a Caproni 3...

Actually, I believe the Pfalz was also based on the Czechmaster resin kit.
It is nice, but now that the MAC and Roden kits are out, there is no need to
track one down.  And to think I once bought five of 'em...

> Allow me to join you in celebrating Meikrantz memory.
> At a time there was nothing, and forgetting the
> delays, his committment was inspiring.
> He was called earlier, and right now is moulding
> Breguets 6 for God Himself!

I completely agree!

For the record, here are Meikraft WW1 types off the top of my head (my
apologies if I forget any):

Albatros D.I/D.II (if you can find this one with the decals, the price is
worth it for the decals alone)
Pfalz D.III/D.IIIa (same about the decals)
BE2c (I think it was a 'c')
Dornier D.I
Caproni Ca.2
Lloyd Triplane
SPAD 13
Siemens Schuckert D.I

He did release others, mostly 'tweeners and an occasional jet.  I wonder
what happened to his molds when he passed away?


Matt Bittner

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:23:23 +0200
From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" <gronczewski@interia.pl>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <NDBBIELFOLLOBGEOAOAAKEEBDJAA.gronczewski@interia.pl>

> The only Polish Wanda I've heard of was an LVG C.V
> sp

Steven,

I have to check, what type of aircraft carried the name, but there was anoth
er one Wanda for sure.



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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:22:54 +0200
From: Witold Kozakiewicz <witk@bg.am.lodz.pl>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <3B8F8FAE.D236C382@bg.am.lodz.pl>

Steven Perry napisał(a):

> The only Polish Wanda I've heard of was an LVG C.V
> sp

There was another DFW C.V - much smaller name. I have picture somewhere.
-- 
           Witold Kozakiewicz

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:24:22 -0400
From: Dennis Ugulano <Uggies@compuserve.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Odp: Re: Odp: Re: Dennis's Triplane
Message-ID: <200108310924_MC3-DE4F-A6C9@compuserve.com>

Grzes,

>> I'm sure that Eduard engine was designed for PE - Eduard's main products
are
still PE sets, so non-profi pack is margin of production. <<

        That explains it for me.  I'm not into PE that much and your
explanation clears it up for me.  Thank you.

        And Grzes is fine with me.  I will just have to make my fingers
behave when I type. :-)

Dennis Ugulano
email:  Uggies@compuserve.com
http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm
Page Revised 8/22/01
"Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism."

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:31:47 -0400
From: "Steven Perry" <sperry03@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <00c501c13221$49a8e6c0$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com>

> There was another DFW C.V - much smaller name. I have picture somewhere.


Ok thats right, I remember seeing a photo with the smaller letters. The LVG
C.V with the Wanda marking is coming very near the top of the to build list
so I was thinking on one track.
sp


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:32:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Allan Wright <aew>
To: wwi
Subject: New Model Gallery
Message-ID: <200108311332.JAA11860@mustang.sr.unh.edu>

Please welcome Didier Mario to the list website. His new gallery is on-line
with a beautiful Fokker E-V on it.

http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Mario/index.html

-Al

(Just so Matt doesn't think he's the only one working on the site - LOL!)

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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:50:12 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Odp: RE: New Polish Diego
Message-ID: <01ff01c13223$dbfe3a00$0200a8c0@x.pl>

> The only Polish Wanda I've heard of was an LVG C.V
> sp

Oh no!
There is very popular legend about Polish princess Wanda (from X cent.) who
jumped from high cliff into the Wisla river, because was forced to marry
German.
And also Wanda Rutkiewicz, Polish Himalaist, who in 1978 as first European
woman climbed Mount Everest, and scored 8 of 14 8000 meters mountains. She
was missing 'in action' in May 1992 on Kanchentzonga in Himalaya.
G.


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:55:48 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Polish Wanda
Message-ID: <020d01c13224$a51ae820$0200a8c0@x.pl>

Sorry!
That ot message was intended off-list!
G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Grzegorz Mazurowski <grzem@yahoo.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:45 PM
Subject: [WWI] Odp: RE: New Polish Diego


> > The only Polish Wanda I've heard of was an LVG C.V
> > sp
>
> Oh no!
> There is very popular legend about Polish princess Wanda (from X cent.)
who
> jumped from high cliff into the Wisla river, because was forced to marry
> German.
> And also Wanda Rutkiewicz, Polish Himalaist, who in 1978 as first European
> woman climbed Mount Everest, and scored 8 of 14 8000 meters mountains. She
> was missing 'in action' in May 1992 on Kanchentzonga in Himalaya.
> G.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:07:55 -0700
From: ERIC HIGHT <copperst@sd.fastq.com>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Jager Miniatures'Rumpler C.IV
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010831065729.01cb7ec0@pop.amug.org>

todd,
the price on the rumpler is 57.50 and that is pounds.  there is free 
shipping.  it is a little pricey but as you know production of a quality 
kit is expensive.  and yes from what i understand aeroclub will be the only
distributor to carry the kits.
dave v. is back and has promised me that my site will be updated shortly 
and there will be pictures and a link regarding this kit and any other kit 
jager does in the future(and there will be more).  remember i will not be 
selling these kits but anything i can do to help facilitate someone who 
wants one contact me off list and i'll do what i can to help.
thanks,
eric

03:02 AM 8/31/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Karen,
>
>Eric Hight had some info on the price.  I think it is
>57.90 pounds (I hope that I'm remembering wrong and
>that's dollars) including shipping worldwide.  Quite
>expensive.  US$83.  Aeroclub is supposed to get some
>in.  Fax. for Jager is 0141 4023879
>
>Todd
>
>
>--- Karen Rychlewski <krychski@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Courtney Allen wrote:
> >
> > > I placed an ordered for one  on Sunday.  He told
> > me the kit would go in the
> > > mail yesterday.  Should see it in a week or so.
> >
> > Could those of us who for unknown reasons can't get
> > beyond the start page of
> > this website have an email address for Jager? A
> > price on this kit would be
> > nice, too.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Dame Karen
> >
>
>
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:59:48 -0400
From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: OOP kits and Books was: Re:Meikraft Kits
Message-ID: <OF83B72143.D8FAAEC1-ON85256AB9.0051A826@hyperion.com>


Hi Ross and List,
You might try asking the list when you are looking for specific kits or
books....I have been so lucky with specific requests and, frankly, only two
book requests went unanswered!!! These were for Austro-Hungarian Army
Aircraft of World War One and Harry Woodman's Scale Model Aircraft in
Plastic Card. Both of which I ultimately picked up because of a tip from
someone on the LIST!!!!! Also, got both at far less than LoonEbay prices!!!
I recently picked up the Woodman book, in mint condition,  for $12.50!!!!!
I used http://www.bookfinder.com . I also picked up a Meikraft Caproni Ca-3
from a shop in Texas, because of a tip from a list member,  for $55!!! This
was bought the same time as one was listed on LoonEbay for $125!! If you're
PATIENT, you can usually find what you are looking for at a reasonable
price...Good Hunting!!!

Regards,
John


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:16:48 +0200
From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" <grzem@yahoo.com>
To: <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Re: Am I wight 
Message-ID: <022f01c1322f$f569fc20$0200a8c0@x.pl>

> they built the Wight
> Quadruplane.  I don't know if they built other planes but they built two
> Quads which you will be able to see in less than 24 hours.
>
> Dennis Ugulano

I knew you are fast, but I've not expected that you can build models in 24
hours on demand, and such unusual type!

G.


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:10:05 +0100
From: David Fleming <dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: OT Book
Message-ID: <3B8FA8CD.8B33EECD@dial.pipex.com>

Earlier in the week, I mentioned a book I was reading by an RNAS pilot.
The book is called 'In The Teeth of The Wind' by Sqd Ldr C P O Bartlett
DSC.

Good read so far (And nice pictures from Author - including captured Alb
DIII and an Aviatik).

One interesting bit is where the pilots retire to the gun room to work
on their model aircraft - whilst some work on Sopwiths, the author
carves a prop for his Etrich....

Anyone else read this one ?

dave

BTW - Welcome from Scotland to all the new members - so many
Antipodeans, it's like being at an Edinburgh barmans conference !!


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:31:13 +0100
From: David Fleming <david_fleming@btconnect.com>
To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Subject: Loon-Ebay -ot
Message-ID: <3B8FBBD1.7070708@btconnect.com>

<html><head></head><body>The subjects are ot, but I couldn't beleive how much people were prepared to pay for the packaging from 4 old Airfix kits !!<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1633062446">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1633062446</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Going to watch this one ! BTW is Redaxe still rampant on the US version ?<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
</body></html>


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:55:31 -0700
From: "Bob Pearson" <bpearson@rapidnet.net>
To: wwi@wwi-models.org
Subject: Re: Dennis's Triplane
Message-ID: <3B8C222D00082820@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com)

Dr.I 545/17. .. its on the CD, but it is an old watercolour, and needs to be
redone sometime in light of new information. I have it with a white rear
fuselage as per Dr.I 152/17

Bob

----------
>From: Ivan Subrt <infosilver@czechia.com>

> Dennis, just from the top of my head I think Weiss' Dr.I wasn't all white,
> but streaked green with white top wing/tail. Is this one on your profile
> CD, Bob?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ivan Subrt
> http://www.czechia.com/silverbird
>
> "The air is our sea." Czech proverb

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