WWI Digest 3653 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: WW1 pilots flight training by Ernest Thomas 2) RE: Konig website by "Rick Milas" 3) Re: Ordering from Jadar by Craig Gavin 4) Re: More Camel questions by Russell W Niles 5) Re: SRAM Redux by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: Ordering from Jadar by "Laskodi" 7) Re: Ordering from Jadar by "Courtney Allen" 8) Fredrich-Dactal? by "Brent Theobald" 9) Re: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans by "David Layton" 10) Re: Fredrich-Dactal? by Karen Rychlewski 11) Re: Fredrich-Dactal? by "Brent Theobald" 12) Re: Fredrich-Dactal? by "Bob Pearson" 13) DH4 interiors by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 14) New updates by Crawford Neil 15) Re: news from this part of the wolrld by Witold Kozakiewicz 16) RE: EE Morane by Crawford Neil 17) Re: Ordering from Jadar by Witold Kozakiewicz 18) Re: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans by Crawford Neil 19) RE: Konig website by Shane Weier 20) Jadar by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 21) RE: WWI digest 3651 by "Sandy Adam" 22) Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker by Crawford Neil 23) Books was RE: WW1 pilots flight training by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 24) Re: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans by ibs4421@commandnet.net 25) RE: Books was RE: WW1 pilots flight training by "Gaston Graf" 26) RE: WW1 pilots flight training by Crawford Neil 27) Re: SRAM Redux by "Matt Bittner" 28) Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker by "Tom Sollers" 29) New Subscriber by "James Fahey" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:03:25 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: <3B8C4D6D.66E4B6E4@bellsouth.net> Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au wrote: > > Gaston: > > I've seen "Flying Fury" recently in a bookshop here in Melbourne recently, > so I think its in current print now. "Saggitarius Rising" I'm not so sure > about. Check ABE and see what they have - you should be able to get both > there. I just read Sagittarius Rising. Probably the best book of the genre. Cecil Lewis can actually write. And he gives great descriptions of what it was like flying the different types. And the ending sent a shiver down my spine, like a good book should. E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:10:44 -0500 From: "Rick Milas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Konig website Message-ID: Marc, Thanks for the tip on this page. I went to the home page of www.german-navy.tripod.com and found some great stuff. I have a big interest in the German Navy, and this page is incredible! The information on the painting of German warships in wwi was completely new to me. Anyone interested in the German Navy in wwi should check out this page. Now if only I can save up my money to buy some of those great resin models in 1/700 being made by WSW. Rick Milas > >Shane: > >Was surfing the net and found this page: > >http://german-navy.tripod.com/sms_bb_konig.htm > >Has line drawings and photos of the Konig-class battleships. Hope this >will >help on your OT ship project. > >Marc Flake _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:39:53 +0000 From: Craig Gavin To: Subject: Re: Ordering from Jadar Message-ID: Warren _ I've got to echo what Courtney has already said. And once you've ordered from them and they have your cc information, re-ordering is a snap. I've ordered kits via e-mail and had them in my hands within ten days. The Ardpol DH-9 and Halberstadt Cl. IV are beautiful. Can't wait to get the new DFW C.V if it's anything like the first two. FWIW - Craig Gavin + > From: ibs4421@commandnet.net > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:28:47 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Ordering from Jadar > > Listers, > I am thinking about ordering some kits from Jadar. I am > curious as to the experiences U.S. list members have had ordering from them. > what shipping option did you choose? How long did it take to get here? > Were they easy to deal with?, etc., etc. > > Warren > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:53:15 -0700 From: Russell W Niles To: wwi@wwi-models.org Cc: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: More Camel questions Message-ID: <20010828.194817.-517977.3.r_niles1@juno.com> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:45:45 -0400 (EDT) "Lance Krieg" writes: > Russ wants to know if: " the seat had lap belts or shoulder belts." Both, with a quick-release pin that held them together. The main feature are the large holes along the length of the belt. Eduard makes these, as someone pointed out. HTH Lance Lance and all who replied to my question. Thanks good folks. Now if all else goes right for a change, the fuselage will go together sometime this week. I have no digital camera, Rick is my photographer. However, I only see him at our local IPMS meetings, which I have not been able to attend in two months, nor will be able to attend next month. So, no pictures until probably October. Russ Russ Niles IPMS 4450 Too close for missiles....switching to guns. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:02:46 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SRAM Redux Message-ID: <3B8C222D00007B29@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) So what's your problem with 1/144 instead of 1/72 ? Bob ---------- >From: "Matt Bittner" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: SRAM Redux >Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2001, 6:17 pm > > On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:13:03 -0400 (EDT), CoolSpadLuke@aol.com wrote: > >> I guess it "depends" on your perspective of working in a smaller scale. :-) > > Definitely better than working in a larger one! > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:25:24 -0700 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: Re: Ordering from Jadar Message-ID: <002301c1303a$3e76e420$193819d0@f4hn201> <<>> I have had the exact same experience as Courtney. Highly recommended and dirt cheap with reasonable air freight costs. Also there is a new Polish shop on the Internet called Karaya, their URL is: http://www.karaya.ilawa.com/eng/eng2.html Same exact comments apply as Jadar, but Karaya doesn't pad the shipping costs like Jadar. (Jadar adds about $5 to the actual air freight cost to cover handling, that's not much but it pizzes me off anyway, I can convert Zlotych to $ quite easily!). Also, Karaya has a much better selection of ot products (OK so shoot me!). I only recommend air shipment, surface is a gamble and can take from 1-3 months depending on ship availability to your destination. As a guideline for shipping to sunny California, shipments from Jadar average about 18% of value of the order, while shipments from Karaya average about 11% of order. Both offer Eduard 1/48 Profipacks for about $15, (even cheaper than NKR with much lower air freight costs to the USA!). I have no business relationship with either, just a satisfied customer who's blowing way too much money on modeling because the prices are so cheap! HTH -----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:25:53 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: Ordering from Jadar Message-ID: <000f01c13042$b1708280$4a58510c@worldnet.att.net> Even better than the DH-9 and Halberstadt is their own Alb. C.V. Includes PE by PARTS. Excellent! Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Gavin" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:42 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Ordering from Jadar > Warren _ I've got to echo what Courtney has already said. And once you've > ordered from them and they have your cc information, re-ordering is a snap. > I've ordered kits via e-mail and had them in my hands within ten days. The > Ardpol DH-9 and Halberstadt Cl. IV are beautiful. Can't wait to get the new > DFW C.V if it's anything like the first two. FWIW - Craig Gavin + > > > From: ibs4421@commandnet.net > > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:28:47 -0400 (EDT) > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WWI] Ordering from Jadar > > > > Listers, > > I am thinking about ordering some kits from Jadar. I am > > curious as to the experiences U.S. list members have had ordering from them. > > what shipping option did you choose? How long did it take to get here? > > Were they easy to deal with?, etc., etc. > > > > Warren > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 05:13:32 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Fredrich-Dactal? Message-ID: Okay, I have unsuccessfully searched the archives for Fredrichshaven references. Wasn't there a website from a guy in Japan who built a 1/48 Fredrichshaven G.III? Does anyone remember how to find it? Thanks! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:17:38 -0500 From: "David Layton" To: Subject: Re: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans Message-ID: <011c01c13049$f503d720$8b6ad918@DavidLayton> If Albert Ball were alive today, he'd be driving a TR-6 with a Lewis Gun mounted on the windscreen :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: [WWI] Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans > Was zig-zagging through Border's books tonite (bargin books to military > history to antiques to automobiles) and came across a new book on the > British Morgan Automobile Company. I knew they made three and four wheel > vehicles (still making four wheel sports cars hand made btw) but paging > through the photos came across a shot of Albert Ball, DSO, VC, sitting in > one of the little beasts - never seen this before. There was a kit of the > three wheel Morgan issued years ago. The Ball photo was obviously a wartime > ad. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:24:01 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fredrich-Dactal? Message-ID: <3B8C7C70.72F3D918@earthlink.net> Brent Theobald wrote: > I have unsuccessfully searched the archives for Fredrichshaven references. > Wasn't there a website from a guy in Japan who built a 1/48 Fredrichshaven > G.III? Does anyone remember how to find it? Try Friedrichshafen Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 05:59:47 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fredrich-Dactal? Message-ID: Howdy! Nope, no joy :-( Oh well.... Later! Brent >From: Karen Rychlewski >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Fredrich-Dactal? >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:29:35 -0400 (EDT) > >Brent Theobald wrote: > > > I have unsuccessfully searched the archives for Fredrichshaven >references. > > Wasn't there a website from a guy in Japan who built a 1/48 >Fredrichshaven > > G.III? Does anyone remember how to find it? > >Try Friedrichshafen > >Dame Karen > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:24:18 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fredrich-Dactal? Message-ID: <3B8C222D0000D162@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Try searching for Bucky Sheftall, that is who was doing the Friedrichshafen Bob ---------- >From: Karen Rychlewski >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Fredrich-Dactal? >Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2001, 10:29 pm > > > Brent Theobald wrote: > >> I have unsuccessfully searched the archives for Fredrichshaven references. >> Wasn't there a website from a guy in Japan who built a 1/48 Fredrichshaven >> G.III? Does anyone remember how to find it? > > Try Friedrichshafen > > Dame Karen > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:37:13 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: DH4 interiors Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F10B@SERVER1> I would like to build a model of the De Havilland DH4, but my files do not show enough about the fuselage interiors. I have the following references: - Famous Aircraft of the NASM: DH4 - From flaming coffin to living legend - the Profile booklet - William Wylam detailed drawings - An article from an old issue of Scale Models, dealing with reworking the Airfix kit - WW1 Aero n. 114, plus some others with a few useful dashboard views and a couple of longitudinal sections of the fuselage - Bombing colours (Kookaburra). I know that Albatros Productions issued the DH4 DF Special, but I do not have it, as it is quite expensive for my limited budget. Any help, including suggestions about other interesting sources of information, will be gratefully received. Thanks very much in advance to all of you, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:55:47 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: New updates Message-ID: Bit late here but well done Marten, Ken and Sandy, a DFC to all of you, plus mention in dispatches. Andrei becomes a Chevalieur de Legion d'honneur, his Breguet is quite outstanding. Thanks all of you. /Neil C. Ps. Excuse my french spelling ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:56:42 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: news from this part of the wolrld Message-ID: <3B8C922A.CF712FB@bg.am.lodz.pl> Michael Kendix napisa³(a): > Witold: > > I am a little confused - nothing unusual about that! > > Are you saying that the Gotha G.IV kit is in fact a G.V that needs > significant modifications? Sounds bizarre. Michael, I have this kit for about 15min when I was at Part with references for SPAD A.2. Spruces looked quite good - Roden standard. Nice wings, some flash, and sink marks on fuselage. When I started reading instruction I found drawings with many "to remove" parts. So I took spruces once again and yes, you have G.V fuselage with additional section for G.IV (near pilot) which has to be replaced. Lower wing roots are also for G.V with section for G.V "hanging" engines. Building G.IV you have to remove parts where engine nacelles goes. Also some details on outer of fuselage have to be sand off. Everything is shown very cleary and "conversion" is quite simple except that pilot side panel (need to cut fuselage into three separate parts and replace one of them). All details are on three spruces known from G.II/III version. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:57:55 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: EE Morane Message-ID: Glad you got you're life back Cam, I too feel that way whenever I can sit down and do some modelling. Especially when things go well. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: cameron rile [mailto:cameron@prontomail.com] > Sent: den 28 augusti 2001 00:00 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] EE Morane > > > > Looks like I get my life back this week. > > Added decals before assembly as Diego wrote a few > days back on an EE Morane I'm doing as a quickie, > also used White-Out/Liquid-Paper as the filler as > Micheal wrote a few weeks back. I havent seen > Testors Modern Desert Sand in the stores as a > bottle of paint, only as a can of spray paint. No > questions really, just a sigh of ahh that I am > back in the game of having a life again. > > > > camAFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ > (and who cant believe Andrei's Salmson is 1:72!) > > > ________________________________________ > Get your email at > http://www.prontomail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:22:00 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ordering from Jadar Message-ID: <3B8C9818.453CEB3E@bg.am.lodz.pl> Craig Gavin napisa³(a): > Ardpol DH-9 and Halberstadt Cl. IV are beautiful. Can't wait to get the new > DFW C.V if it's anything like the first two. It is, I even did not examine this kit in the shop. Just took it and spent my last money -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:31:53 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans Message-ID: This is a fun idea, I used to have a TR4 and it was a nice solid sportscar just too slow, the TR6 was much better, and in my imagination could well correspond to a SE5. Nice car, quite fast good handling and no quirks just like the SE5a. I thought up some others: Morgan 4/4 = Fe2b Morgan +8 = Fe2d - just as antique but with a bigger engine Lotus Elan = Sopwith Pup - delightful handling Porsche Turbo = Sopwith Camel - tricky! Jaguar E-type = Spad 13 - Unbeatable on the straights Merc. 250SL = Albatross DIII - good looking but unspectacular Morris Minor 1000 = RE8 - 'nuff said I'd better stop before I hurt anybodys feelings. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Layton [mailto:DavidLaytonwwi@earthlink.net] > Sent: den 29 augusti 2001 07:19 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans > > > If Albert Ball were alive today, he'd be driving a TR-6 with > a Lewis Gun > mounted on the windscreen :) > ----- Original Message ----- > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:59:36 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Konig website Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD4B6@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Marc > >Was surfing the net and found this page: > >http://german-navy.tripod.com/sms_bb_konig.htm > >Has line drawings and photos of the Konig-class battleships. Hope this will >help on your OT ship project. Thanks mate. I can't look at it at the moment. I have a new laptop which isn't set up properly and can't browse *at all* However, I'll probably get it sorted before I finish the model LOL We'll have brain implant computers by the time I finish at the present rate ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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Greetings Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:37:03 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: Subject: RE: WWI digest 3651 Message-ID: <000001c13065$e4ca2e10$8ce9b094@SA1> Thanks fo all the kind words guys. Too busy with work to contribute much to the list just now but lurking furiously! Re the Tabloid cowling, I cut two side panels from thick plastic card and added to Baby nose. Then added a pair of internal formers from plans front view. Used paper to wrap around and make a template to then cut 5 thou plastic cover. I used Humbrol metalcote aluminium for the cowl and dabbed in swirls with thinners and white paint. The action of the metalcote under the thinners worked quite well. What was less good was panel lining, the metalcote kept seeping through. Result here not entirely satisfactory, but I got fed up working it and settled for what I'd got. Some more pics which I'll try to get sent soon. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:06:49 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker Message-ID: Yes I've done it too, it does work, but I feel it's a little dangerous, if overdone. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Milas [mailto:rmilas7@hotmail.com] > Sent: den 29 augusti 2001 03:32 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker > > > I like this suggestion. I tried this bowing technique on a > DML D.VII that I > built several years ago. The method worked. Bowing the wing until the > plastic turns white seems to be the key. > Rick Milas > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:33:16 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Books was RE: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: <999077596.3b8cb6dc8ad45@netmail.pipex.net> There is a remaindered book shop near where am amworking today that has 'Flying Fury' for £5.99. Gaston, if you can't find it, give me a shout & I'll see if they have any left. Today and tomorrow only, because I go home tomorrow !! They also had a book by a pilot from No5 RNAS (Bennet ?) that I bought (And not just because it had photos of a captured Albatros and Aviatik, oh well, maybe that did influence things a little !!) Any one else read this one ? dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 04:15:33 -0500 From: ibs4421@commandnet.net To: Subject: Re: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans Message-ID: <001301c1306b$29466e00$1d3dfad1@esther> And it would have pre-Nader bumpers too! Warren (Who remembers his '70 model,his first car, . . . sniff) :( ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Layton" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:19 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans > If Albert Ball were alive today, he'd be driving a TR-6 with a Lewis Gun > mounted on the windscreen :) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:37 PM > Subject: [WWI] Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans > > > > Was zig-zagging through Border's books tonite (bargin books to military > > history to antiques to automobiles) and came across a new book on the > > British Morgan Automobile Company. I knew they made three and four wheel > > vehicles (still making four wheel sports cars hand made btw) but paging > > through the photos came across a shot of Albert Ball, DSO, VC, sitting in > > one of the little beasts - never seen this before. There was a kit of the > > three wheel Morgan issued years ago. The Ball photo was obviously a > wartime > > ad. > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:24:02 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Books was RE: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: Thanks Dave - I'll see to find it at Amazon and contact you in case it is not available. Cheers! Gaston > > > There is a remaindered book shop near where am amworking today > that has 'Flying > Fury' for £5.99. Gaston, if you can't find it, give me a shout & > I'll see if > they have any left. Today and tomorrow only, because I go home tomorrow !! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:29:45 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: On-line you can read about Jimmie Halls experiences training with the french air force at Issoudan here: http://www.richthofen.com/hall/ It's well worth reading, better than most of the biographies. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 05:49:14 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: SRAM Redux Message-ID: <200108291047.DAA22197@hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:05:22 -0400 (EDT), Bob Pearson wrote: > So what's your problem with 1/144 instead of 1/72 ? Nothing, I just prefer 1/72nd. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:13:08 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker Message-ID: <200108291112.f7TBCx121308@mail.bcpl.net> Sanjeev: I'll second this. I've had great success with simply bending. It depends on the plastic (soft/brittle), but the technique works well on the type used in the DML kits. The key is the whitening of the plastic indicating a physical change in the structure. Go slow. Check often. Tom ---------- >From: Michael and Sharon Alvarado >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker >Date: Tue, Aug 28, 2001, 8:48 PM > >Sanjeev, > >before you go carving on plastic, try what I did to fix the >problem on the DML D.VIIs that I built. Take ahold of the wing >tips in both hands and manually bow the wing so that the under >surface becomes concave. Hold the wing this way for a few >minutes, release, check the dihedral and repeat until the >diheldral is gone. If you need more support or more cohercion >press your thumb into the underside of the wing where needed as >you bow the wing. You can be fairly aggressive. Bow the wing >until the plastic goes white and maintain steady pressure. You >can work the bow along the span of the wing as needed. If cracks >appear release the pressure. If the wing snaps it sglue and sand >time. Take your time, don't be in a rush and you can persuade >the wing to cooperate. > >HTH > >Alvie > >Crawford Neil wrote: > >> Follow Lance's advice here Sanjeev, mine was more vague. >> Lance knows what he's talking about! >> In my defence I might say that doing this varies very much >> from case to case, and I was generalizing:-) >> /Neil C. >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:08:45 +1200 From: "James Fahey" To: Subject: New Subscriber Message-ID: <00e001c1307a$f9085220$b290a7cb@computer> Greetings All I joined the list a few days ago and have been reading the mail with interest, before introducing myself. My wife got a shock when she logged in the day after I subscribed (I hadn't told her about that) and down came 80 odd messages. That was a surprise but I see a very lively group who are very passionate about their hobby! I live in Wellington, New Zealand. Are there any other Kiwis in the group? I am trying to reclaim a part of my life by starting modelling again after a long break (my oldest child is nearly five and the twins are two). I've got terminal kit collecting syndrome and won't ever get to build all the kits I've collected - kits are all 1/72 and span about four themes: absolute speed record holders, Luft '46, weird & wonderful, and WWI. I have also painted an extensive collection of 25mm metal soldiers - Zulu War, Romans/Huns/Vikings/Saxons/Persians/Goths. When I was a teenager back in the 70s I used to have a collection of model WWI planes that I used to wargame with. That was until I had a catastrophic accident with the box where they were all stored. All the planes were completely smashed and I got so despondent I moved onto other hobbies for 20 years. Anyway, I am about to start my first WWI kit since then - probably Roden's Fokker DVIII because I always wanted one as a teenager. By the way, are the kit decals really for a plane flown by Erich Loewenhardt? Wasn't Loewenhardt killed on August 10 1918, flying a Fokker DVII? If he actually flew the Fokker DVIII (EV) at all, it must have been for only a matter of days. Can anyone tell me what planes are covered in the Eduard kit decals for the 1/72 Fokker DVIII? I am also interested in modelling Theo Osterkamp's plane - is it correct that he scored the only victories in this type? Cheers James Fahey ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3653 **********************