WWI Digest 3651 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: WW1 pilots flight training by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 2) Re: WW1 pilots flight training by =?iso-8859-1?q?jim=20Prendergast?= 3) news from this part of the wolrld by Witold Kozakiewicz 4) RE: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans by Crawford Neil 5) Re: news from this part of the wolrld by xtv16@dial.pipex.com 6) Re: wood veneer by Dennis Ugulano 7) Re: Duplo and 1/48th by "Mark Shannon" 8) Re: news from this part of the wolrld by "Michael Kendix" 9) re:Pusher crafts in 1/48 by Sanjeev Hirve 10) Re: Original Third Liberty Loan Poster on Ebay by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 11) Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker by Sanjeev Hirve 12) XOOM is dead - it's Homestead now! by "Gaston Graf" 13) Re: More Camel questions by "Lance Krieg" 14) Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker by "Lance Krieg" 15) RE: XOOM is dead - it's Homestead now! by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" 16) Re: wood veneer by Dennis Ugulano 17) Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker by Crawford Neil 18) RE: Konig website by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 19) Re: EE Morane by "Muth and Zulick" 20) Re: WW1 pilots flight training by "Jay M. Thompson" 21) Re: wood veneer by "Muth and Zulick" 22) Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker by Crawford Neil 23) Re: WW1 pilots flight training by "Gaston Graf" 24) Squasta Meeting? by "Muth and Zulick" 25) RE: WW1 pilots flight training by "dfernet0" 26) Re: WW1 pilots flight training by "Steven Perry" 27) New Images by "Graham Hunter" 28) Re: WW1 pilots flight training by "Jay M. Thompson" 29) Re: Combat report from the Southern Front by "Steven Perry" 30) RE: WW1 pilots flight training by ibs4421@commandnet.net 31) SAMI Vol. 7, Issue 7 by ibs4421@commandnet.net 32) RE: WW1 pilots flight training by "Gaston Graf" 33) Re: Battle Axe Fokker D.VII by "Brent Theobald" 34) Re: news from this part of the wolrld by "Brent Theobald" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:55:03 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: Gaston; Second thoughts on your query...there are sites on the web I've seen that have ( I think) transcriptions of RFC flying manuals on them. I don't have access to these at work so I'll see if I can find them on the computer and then send you the link All the best Neil E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:00:12 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?jim=20Prendergast?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: <20010828080012.4441.qmail@web14403.mail.yahoo.com> --- Gaston Graf wrote: > Friends, > > does anybody know of a book about the training of > WW1 pilots? If such a book > is available I would apreciate to receive your > recommendations. > > Some of you play the flightsim Red Baron II... Well, > my online Jasta 2 is > mobilizing again and we are recruiting for an > upcoming cyber war. I case you > play RBII we would be happy to welcome you in our > ranks. One of our members > runs an RBII ADSL server which means that we won't > need to play on a public Hi Gaston, Maybe an article from "The Aerodrome" will help you. Its a pretty comprehensive article on RFC Training. Get it on www.theaerodrome.com/aces/training/index.html Cheers Jim Prendergast > server. For more information about our online Jasta > please go to my website > and click on the SIMULATION button. > > have fun! > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" > at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > _____________________________________________________________________________ http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Father's Day Shopping - Find the perfect gift for your Dad for Father's Day ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:02:39 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: news from this part of the wolrld Message-ID: <3B8B501F.A876039B@bg.am.lodz.pl> Hi Yesterday I bought new resin Ardpol DFW C.V 1:72 beautiful. very thin wings, many details and very nice moulded. Packed in new style blue box with nice workart of Seweryn Fleisher. Polish German and Finnish markings. Decals made by Techmod. I must start one of my Ardpol kits (I have DH-9, Halb CL.IV, DFW and ot Bartel) With some pe details they must look perfect. Second news is Roden Gotha G.IV. I'm little dissapointed, why? In fact you got G.V and instruction how to "convert" it to G.IV. Many "remove" parts, fuselage needs to be cut into parts in cockpit area - you have to change side part near pilot seat. Inner side of fiselage needs cleaning and there are some sink marks outside. All can be done but I think that much easier would be if they would have prepare different fuselages for G.iV and G.V versions. Two spruec known from G.III, with new fuselage and lower wingThere are some very interesting markings for several G.IV built by different manufacturers (LVG, SSW) Instruction also shows which parts should be changed according to chosen version. It is not as good kit as G.II/G.III but I'm not sure If I decide to built this one or wait for G.V :-)) -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:51:54 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans Message-ID: According to my sources (Stefan Svensson who's forgotten more about old kits than I've ever known), the Morgan 3-wheeler is available from Minicraft, previously Accademy. It's originally from Bandai or Gakken. I'm pretty sure it's in an old Bandai catalogue that I have. I agree Morgan's are wonderful, I've always wanted one, I had plenty of other british sportscars but never a Morgan, maybe someday..... OT content (in a way), my Grandpa once took me to the Morgan factory in Malvern , strode in and said "this is my grandson from Sweden, he want's to see your factory", so they showed it to us. It was like a guided tour back to the turn of the century, I imagine the Sopwith factory in Kingston was very similar, smell of wood, leather, glue etc. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie and Linda Duckworth > [mailto:iiv000@mail.connect.more.net] > Sent: den 28 augusti 2001 03:38 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Albert Ball and Three-wheel Morgans > > > Was zig-zagging through Border's books tonite (bargin books > to military > history to antiques to automobiles) and came across a new book on the > British Morgan Automobile Company. I knew they made three > and four wheel > vehicles (still making four wheel sports cars hand made btw) > but paging > through the photos came across a shot of Albert Ball, DSO, > VC, sitting in > one of the little beasts - never seen this before. There was > a kit of the > three wheel Morgan issued years ago. The Ball photo was > obviously a wartime > ad. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:19:17 +0000 From: xtv16@dial.pipex.com To: Subject: Re: news from this part of the wolrld Message-ID: <999001157.3b8b8c45c4b93@netmail.pipex.net> Quoting Witold Kozakiewicz : > Hi > Yesterday I bought new resin Ardpol DFW C.V 1:72 beautiful. very thin > wings, > many details and very nice moulded. Packed in new style blue box with > nice > workart of Seweryn Fleisher. Polish German and Finnish markings. Decals > made by > Techmod. No British ? :-) DF2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:23:56 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: wood veneer Message-ID: <200108280824_MC3-DDF5-A3EE@compuserve.com> Mike, >> It's the HB that smells good; like a good cigar. :-) Mike Kavanaugh Not to get back on to the "sniff & smell" thread! << Taking your advise, I sniffed it out. It's my Hansa Brandenburg D.1. I remember molding the wood around the area in front of the cockpit and thinking how easy it worked. But I couldn't find the plane last night. I know I've shown it off. Maybe I was brain dead last night. No, let's remove the maybe. The Eduard Dr.1 now has two wings and miles of decals. The kit is falling together. This is by far the easiest kit I have ever built. Now I'm thinking of buying some more of the other Eduard kits. With the arrival of Datafile 88, the Ansaldo A.1 Balilla, I've pulled the Joystick kit off the shelf. It's kit # 15. The decal sheet is mainly Polish but the Datafile now give me WW1 colors. I have to slow down a little because of other responsibilities but the little A.1 is looking good. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 8/22/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:30:20 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Duplo and 1/48th Message-ID: Nah, 1/48th scale is just a matter of finally being able to see enough when a normal person looks at the cockpit to make it worth putting the small parts in. 1/72nder's just fit into the same category as those who try to paint on the head of a pin. It's all from the world of 'who cares?' ;{) (try telling the person who just painted a replica of 'La Gioconda' on the head of a pin "It's amazing! The eyes follow you as you move around the room!"). (ot: On the other hand, I'm not above doing a little of the miniatures work. A couple of years ago I hand-painted the nose art for a 1/144th scale B-29 'Lucky Lady'. It was for a gift for my father-in-law, who had flown his first mission from Tinian in that B-29. I think it's why I can't see anymore.) .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:58:00 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: news from this part of the wolrld Message-ID: >From: Witold Kozakiewicz >Second news is Roden Gotha G.IV. I'm little dissapointed, why? In fact >you >got G.V and instruction how to "convert" it to G.IV. Many "remove" >parts, >fuselage needs to be cut into parts in cockpit area - you have >to change >side part near pilot seat. Inner side of fiselage needs >cleaning and there >are some sink marks outside. All can be done but I >think that much easier >would be if they would have prepare different >fuselages for G.iV and G.V >versions. Two spruec known from G.III, with >new fuselage and lower wing. >There are some very interesting >markings for several G.IV built by different manufacturers (LVG, SSW) >Instruction also shows which parts should be changed according to >chosen >version. It is not as good kit as G.II/G.III but I'm not sure >If I decide >to built this one or wait for G.V :-)) Witold: I am a little confused - nothing unusual about that! Are you saying that the Gotha G.IV kit is in fact a G.V that needs significant modifications? Sounds bizarre. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:13:53 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: re:Pusher crafts in 1/48 Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C499@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Thanks to everybody for their responses. Looks like there are indeed ample 1:48 scale kits. I think I will tackle the aeroclub fe.2 soon. Thanks again SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:31:56 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Original Third Liberty Loan Poster on Ebay Message-ID: Hi Todd, Thanks for the info!!!! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:28:00 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C49B@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Mike, I went back and checked. There is indeed a pronounced dihedral, or maybe the correct pronounciation is "warp". Maybe it has something to do with the swirling pattern blemishes in the plastic. If I lay a straight-edge on its top surface, there is a dip of about 1/16" in the centre. Accounting for wing taper, it should actually be 1/16" of rise, so the wing center is warped by about 1/8"!!. So can somebody elaborate on the cut-n-press method? Should I make 1 cut or more? Is the cut on the concave side or the convex side (like cutting a tree?) How do I get it to stay put ? thanks in advance SSH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:40:39 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: XOOM is dead - it's Homestead now! Message-ID: Folks, there was some recent comments about the problems with websites registered at NBCI/XOOM... I ran my online Jastas website at NBCI/XOOM as well but could not update it anymore since weeks because ftp access always failed. So I wanted to check the providers website to find out why I cannot access my site. I was amazed to see that obviously CNBC swallowed NBCI/XOOM but XOOM is by no word mentionned anymore. The website service offered is called HOMESTEAD now which is NOT free anymore. I registered for one year for 49.99$ which is a reasonably price for 25Mb of webspace. Unfortunately Homestead does not support the MS Frontpage extensions so I'll have to go other ways with my site but that's not a problem. I am curious to about their site building tool which I am actually downloading. Despite being completely ot I thought about posting this because some people might be interested to get the information. happy website building Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:42:34 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: More Camel questions Message-ID: Russ wants to know if: " the seat had lap belts or shoulder belts." Both, with a quick-release pin that held them together. The main feature are the large holes along the length of the belt. Eduard makes these, as someone pointed out. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:52:21 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker Message-ID: Sanjeev has a warped Fokker: " Should I make 1 cut or more? Is the cut on the concave side...[?] How do I get it to stay put ?" Here's my approach to this, for what it's worth: 1. Single chord wise cut in center of concave side (top), quite deep. 2. Force wing open and insert chord-length wedge of plastic. 3. Confirm top wing flatness with straight edge. 4. Repair cut and proceed as normal. 5. Notice the tail surfaces don't match plans. 6. Correct tail outline, scratchbuilding rudder and vertical stabilizer. 7. Notice fuselage depth is too shallow aft of cockpit. 8. Mutter curses under breath. 9. Applique plastic bottom to fuselage to correct depth. Good luck! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:55:06 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: XOOM is dead - it's Homestead now! Message-ID: In light of what Gaston posted, the people running the cook up might want to contact the webmaster at kithobbyist. He may be able to do something for you. (I believe the email addy is webmaster@kithobbyist.com. If not, go to http://www.kithobbyist.com and look for links there.) A huge advantage to kithobbyist.com (besides not paying :-) is it runs all the "latest", especially php and MySQL. FWIW, I'm working on re-doing two of my sites in php... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:30:42 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: wood veneer Message-ID: <200108280930_MC3-DDED-3121@compuserve.com> Michael, I found the kit. It's the Hansa Brandenburg D.1. It's under German/Hansa. This is getting scary when you can't even remember the models on your own web site. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 8/22/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:58:44 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker Message-ID: Should I make 1 cut > or more? 2 I think Is the cut on the concave side or the convex side > (like cutting a > tree?) A fairly coarse cut on the underside is best, because you will spoil some surface detail. How do I get it to stay put ? Fill the cut with glue. CA or tube-glue. And press it flat. > thanks in advance > SSH > This is just my guessing, I've done it, but I can't really remember how. I think there are many solutions to this problem. I'm sure more will come. /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:24:41 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Konig website Message-ID: Shane: Was surfing the net and found this page: http://german-navy.tripod.com/sms_bb_konig.htm Has line drawings and photos of the Konig-class battleships. Hope this will help on your OT ship project. Marc Flake ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:36:56 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: EE Morane Message-ID: <000a01c12fce$e3acb6c0$0100005a@ptd.net> . I havent seen > Testors Modern Desert Sand in the stores as a > bottle of paint, only as a can of spray paint. Cam It is my choice for CDL, but they don't make it in a bottle....no idea why not. Anyway, someone on the list once mentioned spraying the entire can into a bottle and then air brushing it. Don't know if this works, or why to do it, unless there is less wastage. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:51:07 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: I know I have it around somewhere, but one of Rowan's WWI flight sims came with a republished WWI British flight training manual. Absolutely fascinating. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of jim Prendergast Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: WW1 pilots flight training --- Gaston Graf wrote: > Friends, > > does anybody know of a book about the training of > WW1 pilots? If such a book ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:53:55 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: wood veneer Message-ID: <005101c12fd1$4470d480$0100005a@ptd.net> > My dark veneer came from a cigar box and was a thin liner sheet for > the cigars. Dennis may have started me on this idea awhile back. Anyway, someone on the list mentioned getting cigar wrappers/liners that can be found in some type of cigars that are sold in tubes. I found a friend who smoked them and have a small supply of very thin and pliable wood. I use it only for cockpit interiors and apply it with Elmer's glue. Does a nice job as a former in the cockpit or as a wooden floor or side panel. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:50:48 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Removing Dihedral from DML Fokker Message-ID: Follow Lance's advice here Sanjeev, mine was more vague. Lance knows what he's talking about! In my defence I might say that doing this varies very much from case to case, and I was generalizing:-) /Neil C. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:52:58 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: Re: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: > > I know I have it around somewhere, but one of Rowan's WWI flight sims came > with a republished WWI British flight training manual. Absolutely > fascinating. > That was the English version of Flying Corps. The German version came with a copy of Manfred von Richthofens "Der rote Kampfflieger". I wish I had a copy of the English pilots manual. Thanks all who replied to my question. Will see to find the books as well as the article at the Aerodrome forum. Cheers! Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:58:51 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Squasta Meeting? Message-ID: <007301c12fd1$f3fb7d60$0100005a@ptd.net> Alvie (x2), Sharon, Cam and anyone else in DC area......I'll be down there over the Memorial day weekend. Any chance to get together for dinner? Last time Allvies and I had a great time. Let me know. Mike Muth reply to muzu@ptd.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:21:42 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: <026101c12fd5$247e96e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Gasterix! I'd reccomend you "Flying Fury" by James McCudden. He talks about training is some chapters, as student and also as an instructor. Also "Saggitarius rising" have something from the personal point of view of the author. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaston Graf To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:45 AM Subject: [WWI] WW1 pilots flight training > Friends, > > does anybody know of a book about the training of WW1 pilots? If such a book > is available I would apreciate to receive your recommendations. > > Some of you play the flightsim Red Baron II... Well, my online Jasta 2 is > mobilizing again and we are recruiting for an upcoming cyber war. I case you > play RBII we would be happy to welcome you in our ranks. One of our members > runs an RBII ADSL server which means that we won't need to play on a public > server. For more information about our online Jasta please go to my website > and click on the SIMULATION button. > > have fun! > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:19:12 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: <000501c12fd4$cb9fbc20$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> On a similar note, is there any truth to the story that Dicta Boelcke is still taught or at least posted at the Air Force Academy? sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:23:56 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: "WWI List (E-mail)" Subject: New Images Message-ID: <000c01c12fd5$75379140$fa0101c0@grahamh> Kudos to Andrei, Ken and Sandy. Very nice work fellows :-) Graham ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:40:05 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: Well it's in Shaw's Fighter Combat: Tactics and Maneuvering book, and IIRC it's on a plaque on the wall at the Navy's Top Gun school...which used to be NAS Mirimar but it was moved recently. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Steven Perry Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:21 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: WW1 pilots flight training On a similar note, is there any truth to the story that Dicta Boelcke is still taught or at least posted at the Air Force Academy? sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:44:08 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Combat report from the Southern Front Message-ID: <003901c12fd8$496ff540$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> >I was quite taken by several of them, > particularly SP's lovely SE-5a, which looks *much* better in person than it > did on IM (sorry Bob!) > It has been an *immense* pleasure to have SP's model in my house, and at our > show and a great advertisement for the friendship of the WW1 list. *I* got a > buzz out of having a friend on the other side of earth willing to take a > chance and send a model all the way to Australia, and a still bigger buzz > showing it to current and lurking listees and non listee WW1 modellers Shane: Thanks so much for the kind words about the SE. I've also gotten quite a buzz from the whole thing. List: Shane is being a classy Aussie gent in tip toeing around the fact that the SE didn't win anything. He told me off list about the flaws that prevented it from winning a medal and I must say the model was excellently and correctly judged. My hat is off to the Aussie judges. Such first rate judging promotes excellence in modeling and bespeaks well of the local clubs. Truly an honor to be gigged by such an astute bunch :-). I'm looking forward to the return of the SE and the arrival of Shane's entry into the IPMS Region 11 contest here in October. Anyone in reasonable distance from St. Pete should try to make it. It will be a Sat & Sun event held at a motel on the beach. October sunsets over the Gulf are usually stunning. Good one to bring the family to. Give me a shout Off List for details. sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:54:46 -0500 From: ibs4421@commandnet.net To: Subject: RE: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: <001001c12fd9$c3ff9440$193dfad1@esther> Gaston, Just recently finished re-reading "Heaven High-Hell Deep" by Norman Archibald. He describes in decent detail the training he recieved at the flying school at Issoudon with its eight flying fields, plus "Field Nine". Don't you end up at "Field Nine"! Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: WW1 pilots flight training > Gasterix! > I'd reccomend you "Flying Fury" by James McCudden. He talks about training > is some chapters, as student and also as an instructor. Also "Saggitarius > rising" have something from the personal point of view of the author. > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gaston Graf > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:45 AM > Subject: [WWI] WW1 pilots flight training > > > > Friends, > > > > does anybody know of a book about the training of WW1 pilots? If such a > book > > is available I would apreciate to receive your recommendations. > > > > Some of you play the flightsim Red Baron II... Well, my online Jasta 2 is > > mobilizing again and we are recruiting for an upcoming cyber war. I case > you > > play RBII we would be happy to welcome you in our ranks. One of our > members > > runs an RBII ADSL server which means that we won't need to play on a > public > > server. For more information about our online Jasta please go to my > website > > and click on the SIMULATION button. > > > > have fun! > > > > Gaston Graf > > (ggraf@vo.lu) > > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:37:45 -0500 From: ibs4421@commandnet.net To: Subject: SAMI Vol. 7, Issue 7 Message-ID: <002601c12ff0$88257fe0$1d3dfad1@esther> Folks, Just got back from the bookstore and got hold of SAMI vol.7, issue7. This is new to me, I don't know how old this issue is. Annnnnyyywaaayy, there's a build article on the MAC Pfalz D.IIIa, and a couple of OT books reviewed/highlighted. The back is nothing but OT kits from Squadron mail order. This is just at first glance, probably mroe as I get to look at it. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:12:59 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: WW1 pilots flight training Message-ID: Diegosterix, is that book still available or is it an old book out of print that I will have to search at antiquaric bookstores? Just wondering. Gasterix > I'd reccomend you "Flying Fury" by James McCudden. He talks about training > is some chapters, as student and also as an instructor. Also "Saggitarius > rising" have something from the personal point of view of the author. > D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:22:14 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Battle Axe Fokker D.VII Message-ID: Howdy! I agree with the earlier review of this kit. The only thing I would add is the lozenge looks funny to me. The colors are too garish. The whole lozenge question comes down to personal taste. Ya'll might love the bright colors. Later! Brent >From: Todd Hayes >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] Battle Axe Fokker D.VII >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:43:23 -0400 (EDT) > >Has anyone seen this kit yet? Any opinions (loaded >question for the list)? > >Todd > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:23:00 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: news from this part of the wolrld Message-ID: Howdy! I know this has been asked and answered before but... Where can I order some of these kits? Thanks! Brent >From: Witold Kozakiewicz >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] news from this part of the wolrld >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:07:08 -0400 (EDT) > >Hi >Yesterday I bought new resin Ardpol DFW C.V 1:72 beautiful. very thin >wings, >many details and very nice moulded. Packed in new style blue box with nice >workart of Seweryn Fleisher. Polish German and Finnish markings. Decals >made by >Techmod. I must start one of my Ardpol kits (I have DH-9, Halb CL.IV, DFW >and ot >Bartel) With some pe details they must look perfect. >Second news is Roden Gotha G.IV. I'm little dissapointed, why? In fact you >got >G.V and instruction how to "convert" it to G.IV. Many "remove" parts, >fuselage >needs to be cut into parts in cockpit area - you have to change side part >near >pilot seat. Inner side of fiselage needs cleaning and there are some sink >marks >outside. All can be done but I think that much easier would be if they >would >have prepare different fuselages for G.iV and G.V versions. Two spruec >known >from G.III, with new fuselage and lower wingThere are some very interesting >markings for several G.IV built by different manufacturers (LVG, SSW) >Instruction also shows which parts should be changed according to chosen >version. It is not as good kit as G.II/G.III but I'm not sure If I decide >to >built this one or wait for G.V :-)) > >-- > Witold Kozakiewicz _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3651 **********************