WWI Digest 3638 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Bluprint 1/24 Fokker D.VIII by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 2) Re: List works strange today part 2 by Todd Hayes 3) Re: List works strange today part 2 by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 4) RE: New member to the list by hochmuth@nextra.sk 5) RE: New member to the list by hochmuth@nextra.sk 6) Re: New member to the list by Karen Rychlewski 7) RE: New model on web site by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 8) RE: Poor Polish pilots according to Vihonen by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 9) Re: Poor Polish pilots according to Vihonen by Jan Vihonen 10) Re: Another update by Jan Vihonen 11) RE: Amodel Spad by Witold Kozakiewicz 12) Re: New member to the list by Witold Kozakiewicz 13) RE: New member to the list by "Tomasz Gronczewski" 14) RE: New member to the list by Crawford Neil 15) RE: New member to the list by "dfernet0" 16) RE: Another update by "dfernet0" 17) RE: Bluprint 1/24 Fokker D.VIII by "dfernet0" 18) RE: New updates by "dfernet0" 19) RE: List works strange today by "dfernet0" 20) RE: Amodel Spad by "dfernet0" 21) RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison by "dfernet0" 22) RE: New updates by "Steven Perry" 23) RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" 24) RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison by Crawford Neil 25) RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison by "dfernet0" 26) RE: Another update by Jan Vihonen 27) RE: Poor Polish pilots according to Vihonen by Mark Miller 28) RE: Poor Polish pilots according to Vihonen by "dfernet0" 29) RE: Another update by David Fleming 30) Polish pilots (ot) by Mark Miller 31) Re: New member to the list by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 32) RE: Albatros OEF kits in 1/72 by "dfernet0" 33) RE: Another update by Jan Vihonen 34) RE: New member to the list by Ivan Subrt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:57:36 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Bluprint 1/24 Fokker D.VIII Message-ID: <29.19a85d00.28b5d930@aol.com> Thanks Paul, I'll keep this in mind when I get the datafile and start making comparisons. Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:44:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "P. Howard" writes: > Mike, > IMHO, I think you'll find the Drews drawings to be closer to photos of the > EV/DVIII than the ones in the Datafile. Of course the Datafile photos are > invaluable... > > Paul H ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List works strange today part 2 Message-ID: <20010823042503.43194.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Hey guys, a post of mine from about four hours ago just now appeared. Another one from the same time hasn't shown up yet. Todd --- Steven Perry wrote: > > > I've just received Diego's mails from 14.01 > (question about Amodel SPAD - > > many answers for that I've already got!) and > second from 19.03 (RE: New > > model on web site). And Steven's answer for my > mail about Polish pilots > I've > > got immediately. > > Help, please! > > Grzegorz > > I sent you a message direct, but it seems the List > messages are taking > longer. From what little I understand of the Net, > they probably took two > different routes, One from Fla to Poland and the > other from New Hampshire to > Poland. Each route through a different set of > servers. One of the servers on > the route from NH to Poland is probably down or > running slow, so list > messages are taking longer. Least thats how I had it > explained to me once > when I was experiencing similar problems. These > things are usually trmporary > in nature. > hth > sp > I'll send this message to you direct right after I > send it through the list, > LMK which gets there first > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:31:28 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List works strange today part 2 Message-ID: Hmm... Sounds like carpet gnomes are moving into the computer systems..... Neil E. : )) Todd Hayes Sent by: cc: wwi@wwi-models Subject: [WWI] Re: List works strange today .org part 2 23/08/2001 02:27 PM Please respond to wwi Hey guys, a post of mine from about four hours ago just now appeared. Another one from the same time hasn't shown up yet. Todd --- Steven Perry wrote: > > > I've just received Diego's mails from 14.01 > (question about Amodel SPAD - > > many answers for that I've already got!) and > second from 19.03 (RE: New > > model on web site). And Steven's answer for my > mail about Polish pilots > I've > > got immediately. > > Help, please! > > Grzegorz > > I sent you a message direct, but it seems the List > messages are taking > longer. From what little I understand of the Net, > they probably took two > different routes, One from Fla to Poland and the > other from New Hampshire to > Poland. Each route through a different set of > servers. One of the servers on > the route from NH to Poland is probably down or > running slow, so list > messages are taking longer. Least thats how I had it > explained to me once > when I was experiencing similar problems. These > things are usually trmporary > in nature. > hth > sp > I'll send this message to you direct right after I > send it through the list, > LMK which gets there first > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:46:16 +0200 (CEST) From: hochmuth@nextra.sk To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New member to the list Message-ID: <998541976.3b848a98d3609@webmail.nextra.sk> The page is now 100% working, at least from my computer. Vaso ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:56:23 +0200 (CEST) From: hochmuth@nextra.sk To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: New member to the list Message-ID: <998542583.3b848cf7c8da0@webmail.nextra.sk> Oops, I forgot. Thanks to everybody for a nice welcome here. Vaso ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:55:48 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New member to the list Message-ID: <3B848CD3.5EE8E004@earthlink.net> Hi Vaso Welcome to the list from West (By God!) Virginia, US--I'm pleased you took the good advice of your friends and admirers. I don't think you'll be sorry. Any time of the day or night, some one or two of us is awake and ready to toss off an opinion, a helpful hint, or just some neighborly chit-chat about our passion. For those of you boys who missed it, check out some of Vaso's work at http://miro.wedia.sk/plastik/diskuters/vaso/vaso.htm The page is in one of those incomprehensible Slavic languages, but the important things translate: Fokker Spinne, 1/48, scratch-built. Coming next is an Antoinette, scratch-built; and down the road will be a Curtiss-Rheims Racer, yes, scratch-built. There's also a few 1/72 models, but they are those nasty Bf*** beasts. Have fun, Vaso--and keep up the good 1/48 work! Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:56:43 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: New model on web site Message-ID: Diego, > Let's be grateful that we are not in the same fighter squadron over the > Channel! Radio communications amongst us would have been weird! ;-) haha! So you know now how it looked like during BoB, when a dozen of international squadrons was intercepting a German raid. German invaders must have been totally fooled by such "randomized" actions. Later they would relate that the sky over London was impassable due to the crazy swarm of violently manuvering Hurricanes ;o)) >> to smooth external surface over decal (to remove any lits or bits glued to >> the Future coat during painting and drying). > I don't know if I'm brave enough to try that! It isn't so dangerous for the decal film if you are gentle and if the grid is fine. Really. Tomasz ----------------------------------------------- Koszykowka -> wyniki - komentarze - aktualnosci -> http://koszykowka.interia.pl/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:39:42 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: Poor Polish pilots according to Vihonen Message-ID: > Hey man!!! > Polish pilots poor ?!?! Hahaha! That's great! Just a few hours ago Diego and me had the same problem. We couldn't understand each other although we (or me) were thinking that we both were writting in English. Grzegorz, I think that Jan had written 'poor' to be meant as 'unlucky' not 'inexperienced'. (In Polish language the word 'poor' can be used sometimes as 'hopeless' or 'extremely feckless') Tomasz P.S. As far as I have verified some of my earlier e-mails, I am pretty sure that I have used some sentences that might have been treated as offending. Sorry, but sometimes strict English translation of Polish words or phrases can be read in a wrong way. ---------------------------------------- NBA -> wyniki - komentarze - aktualnosci -> http://nba.interia.pl/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:50:50 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Poor Polish pilots according to Vihonen Message-ID: <3B84B5DA.2E367749@helsinki.fi> Grzegorz, wrote: > > Jan > Hey man!!! > Polish pilots poor ?!?! Grzegorz, I apologize if I unwittingly offended you. When I said "poor Polish pilots" I meant 'unlucky' (the Caudron 714 Cyclones, remember?) not 'low grade'. Believe me, I have, or have read the monographs by my namesake Dr. Jan Koniarek and Jerzy Cynk to be able to appreciate the skill and bravery of the Polish pilots during the September Campaign and afterwards in the air forces of France, Great Britain and USA, and also those, who chose the VVS. (As a matter of fact, I am planning eventually to model PZL. 7c and PZL. 11 fighters, Karas and Los bombers plus Lublin R-XIII D reconnaissance plane. BTW, there's a nice site listing Lotnice Woijskowe colours at http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_eng_polcolor.htm) Jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:02:15 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Another update Message-ID: <3B84B887.F64E15C0@helsinki.fi> Glad that they came OK. Jan > Just added "real" images of the RAFM Fokker D.VII. Thanks, Jan! > > Matt Bittner > WW1 Site Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:03:35 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Amodel Spad Message-ID: <3B84B8D7.2925C9BB@bg.am.lodz.pl> "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" napisał(a): > Amodel does > *not* mold the frame around this window on the exterior - an obvious miss I > hope the upcoming Part p/e set elleviates (Witold, are you listening? ;-). Yes, and I collect all your suggestions. I got MiniDF, and some very helpful scans from Matt. On Monday I will visit PART owner and we plan to start working on this kit. He told me that he'd like to make moveable pulpit. It should not be too difficult. BTW. On the cover of MiniDF is Spad with opened panel near pilot cockpit. You can see interior structure of that plane. On drawings this part is described as "sliding panel". Was it moveable? Did it move front or aft? Inside of fuselage or outside? Could pilot during flight open this panel or was it only for ground service? TIA -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:13:21 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New member to the list Message-ID: <3B84BB21.6E105C53@bg.am.lodz.pl> Václav Hochmuth napisał(a): > Hi all > just let me to introduce myself. My name's Vaso (a nickname from Vaclav) and > I live at Slovakia (perhaps somebody knows this country...) I know :-))) Welcome neighbour. -- Witold Kozakiewicz, Poland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:21:12 +0200 From: "Tomasz Gronczewski" To: Subject: RE: New member to the list Message-ID: > My name's Vaso (a nickname from Vaclav) and Hello Vaso! Welcome aboard. > I live at Slovakia (perhaps somebody knows this country...) C'mon, I visited Slovakia a couple of times. > They could be seen on the new page of our modelling club at > http://kpmpresov.host.sk Great, really great models. The Oeffag Albie provides me with some inspiration... > And don't forget to visit the profiles > section... Wow! I love them all. Especially Nieuport scouts are eye-candies. What kind of software do you use? Tomasz Polsko > P.S. Excuse some mistakes, my english is not perfect (peut-etre je connais > mieux la langue francaise...) Jaa... Ich verstehe dich sehr gut. Aber Ich denke, daß bereits in zwanzig Jahren alle Leute Englisch sprachen werden... ------------------------------------------ Żużel -> wyniki - komentarze - aktualnosci -> http://zuzel.interia.pl/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:11:48 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New member to the list Message-ID: Welcome from Sweden Vaso, you will like this list. I very much like your special interests. I love aircraft of the 20's and 30's, the only problem with this list is that I find myself building WW1 aircraft instead! You write: > P.S. Excuse some mistakes, my english is not perfect > (peut-etre je connais > mieux la langue francaise...) > The more french the better! /Neil C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:32:15 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: New member to the list Message-ID: <00e701c12bbe$e10d2440$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hola Vaso! Welcome from Rosario, Argentina > I live at Slovakia (perhaps somebody knows this country...) An old lady friend of my grandma was born in your country. She was amused to tell me that his nationality changed many times during her life! (austro-hungarian/hungarian/slovakian/german!) > I followed the > advices from few members of this list and decded to join it. I hope it was a > good decision :-) Define "good", please ;-) > I like to build mostly everything that flew until late 1945, with a special > interest in original subjects (pre-war early planes and interwar racers and > record aircraft) Birds of a feather tend to gather... most of us can be described like that to the police. BTW, congratulations for your excellent models. I was impressed some days ago when I discovered your Fokker Spinne on the net, but the Antoinette is wonderful! Tell us how do you do to make the wood details look like that. > P.S. Excuse some mistakes, my english is not perfect (peut-etre je connais > mieux la langue francaise...) Ah, mon vieux, mais je parle l'anglais un petit mieux! We have enough weird radio calls with my fellow poles from the imaginary hurri squadron to complicate things throwing french into the melée! (I wonder if this also amuses to our german listees) D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:48:11 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Another update Message-ID: <013b01c12bc1$1a6fc6a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks Matt for posting and Jan for sending. Would this machine be the original being restored -re-covered- recently in England? Is this the original scheme? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner > Just added "real" images of the RAFM Fokker D.VII. Thanks, Jan! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:54:45 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Bluprint 1/24 Fokker D.VIII Message-ID: <016901c12bc2$059846c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Excellent review, Mike. But now I'm forced to balance the magic spells with a few magical words... Rosemontus Caudronis, spadseptimus airfix!!!! Shazam! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: > Steve Perry keeps trying to use logic to explain why list messages are not being posted chronologically. I will try to appease the list gods this way. > > I received the Bluprint 1/24 scale Fokker D.VIII a few days ago ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:58:08 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: New updates Message-ID: <017f01c12bc2$7eb93000$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> You meant Blue Max foir the "game" not the "Gannon's factory"! Misleading phrase, I guess that these models are 1/72, right Ernie? Doesn't feel nice? :-) Mike, your work is neat, as ever! Good job on the paint finish of the Aviatik! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner > Just updated the site. E sent in images of his latest Blue Max builds > and Mike Muth sent images of a new Fokker D.VII and Aviatik D.I. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:02:21 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "ww1 list" Subject: RE: List works strange today Message-ID: <01aa01c12bc3$15180f80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Grzegorz! No worries, it usually fixs itself the same day. It happens here about once every month. D. > Today list works strange. > Mails are coming completely not in chronological order. Answers are coming > earlier than questions. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:04:04 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Amodel Spad Message-ID: <01c601c12bc3$5282b780$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mike asked: > what about the Spin A2 and A4?! :-)) Grossly oversized for 1/72. Avoid them. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:18:13 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison Message-ID: <022a01c12bc5$4cc4c480$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > Okay, I'll do this in a short message. Thanks, this cleared some questions I had in mind. I'm happy with my Amodel, specially after reading Witold's news. > Molded in > cockpit detail is extremely nicely done, even if it is square. ;-) You mean that the structural members weren't made of square sectioned wood lenghts? On a second tought yesterday I checked it again and I feel that the "throttle quadrant" molded in is oversized. Shaving it off won't be too much work, I guess. > I'll probably stick the Amodel engine on the > Rosemont, and use Rosemont's engine on the Omega. ;-) I used the Omega > "console" as a partial template for the one I scratched for the Amodel. I'm > probably going to use one part of the generally inaccurate interior detail > of the Roseplane to provide a template for a piece in the nacelle. This is vicious! I like it! D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:32:42 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: New updates Message-ID: <003d01c12bc7$55598160$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Great models E & Mike Ernie, did the panel lines on Stropp come out like that when you rubbed on the brown for the ply effect? Nice effect. You got the tail stripes to match up...I hate you. Mike, I love the Berg! That A/G Autum Leaf is just loverly. I must get the kit and decals so I can blatantly copy your work :-) Does Glen say what other airceaft used this scheme? sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:33:53 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:17 AM > You mean that the structural members weren't made of square > sectioned wood > lenghts? Actually, upon further examination, the cockpit structure could very well be square-sectioned instead of round. It's really difficult to tell with only the couple of photos showing any of the interior structure. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:39:58 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison Message-ID: Square makes more sense from a carpentry point of view. I think. /Neil C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U [mailto:BITTNERM@stratcom.mil] > Sent: den 23 augusti 2001 13:38 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:17 AM > > > You mean that the structural members weren't made of square > > sectioned wood > > lenghts? > > Actually, upon further examination, the cockpit structure > could very well be > square-sectioned instead of round. It's really difficult to > tell with only > the couple of photos showing any of the interior structure. > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:46:47 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: SPAD 'pulpit' comparison Message-ID: <029201c12bc9$4a552740$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt > Actually, upon further examination, the cockpit structure could very well be > square-sectioned instead of round. It's really difficult to tell with only > the couple of photos showing any of the interior structure. Thinking on the method used on the later Spad fighters, the structure is "square" albeit some segments are routed. We can educately guess that the same method was used on the a.2 and a.4 D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:46:35 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Another update Message-ID: <3B84ED1B.5AB9BF73@helsinki.fi> D. Sorry, I don't know about it's history. RAFM Web site states bluntly in the history section of this plane: 'TBD'. ;-) Its serial number is 8417/18. 9207M must be works number. If I remember correctly, 8417/18 is within the last block built by OAW and the camouflage at least fits to that. There's one more picture of the plane in: http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/index_collections.cfm then click the Fokker DVII link. Jan > Thanks Matt for posting and Jan for sending. > Would this machine be the original being restored -re-covered- recently in > England? Is this the original scheme? ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 2001 04:49:37 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Poor Polish pilots according to Vihonen Message-ID: <20010823114937.7197.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Tomasz actualy, poor can mean the same things in English. Context is everything, and in this case the meaning is unlucky or unfortunate. My hats off to you guys who are posting in a second language (hmmm. idiom is probably a bad idea, hats off=respect) I can hardly manage in my native tongue and I learned long ago that I'm hopeless when it comes to "foreign" languages. Mark On Thu, 23 August 2001, "Tomasz Gronczewski" wrote: Hahaha! That's great! Just a few hours ago Diego and me had the same problem. We couldn't understand each other although we (or me) were thinking that we both were writting in English. Grzegorz, I think that Jan had written 'poor' to be meant as 'unlucky' not 'inexperienced'. (In Polish language the word 'poor' can be used sometimes as 'hopeless' or 'extremely feckless') > > Tomasz Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:03:56 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Poor Polish pilots according to Vihonen Message-ID: <02a001c12bcb$afb64cc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mark is have used to written: > I'm hopeless when it comes to "foreign" languages. IF YOU ARE UNPLEASANT YIU KEE OFFERS TRANSLATION SERVICES ENGRISH TO EBONIC SPANGLISH TO ENGRISH OZTRALIAN TO CELT YOU SAY WE MANGLE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:02:33 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Another update Message-ID: <3B84F0D8.1561F978@dial.pipex.com> Jan Vihonen wrote: > D. > > Sorry, I don't know about it's history. RAFM Web site states bluntly in > the history section of this plane: 'TBD'. ;-) > > Its serial number is 8417/18. 9207M must be works number. If I remember > correctly, 8417/18 is within the last block built by OAW and the > camouflage at least fits to that. There's one more picture of the plane > in: http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/index_collections.cfm then click the > Fokker DVII link. > In reply to Diego, yes this is the aircraft recently restored. Don't know anything about it's scheme, IIRc it came from Belgium or similar during the 20/30s (?). 9207M is it's RAF maintenance record serial. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 2001 05:10:16 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Polish pilots (ot) Message-ID: <20010823121016.10536.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Speaking of Polish pilots- One of my favorite scenes in the movie Battle of Britan is the one where the Polish pilots are out on a training mission and they sneak off and shoot down the H 111. The polish pilots are constantly yelling to each other on the radio while the British flight leader fumes over this lack of "discipline". Makes me smile everytime I see it. The movie suggests that the Brits did initialy considers the polish pilots inexperienced, but were finaly convinced otherwise. Is any of this true? I like the scene but it has a Hollywood smell to it Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:16:56 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New member to the list Message-ID: <59.f1653a6.28b64e38@aol.com> Nice site Vaso, especially the mouseover tranlations on the navbar for us linguisticly challenged types. Welcome Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:22:58 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Albatros OEF kits in 1/72 Message-ID: <023c01c12bc5$f65b1300$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> John! You also have the option of the Blue Rider vacform in 1/72 and the Sierra kit in 1/48. Unfortunately, both are now out of production. IIRC Michael Kendix built a Hit Kit Albatros and it was great. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: > I don't have any 1/72 scale D.III > OEF's!!!!!!!!! Does anyone have a spare Pegasus or IIRC Meikraft may have > done these as well??? I have been told not to bother with the HitKits as > they are supposed to be BAD.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:27:04 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Another update Message-ID: <3B84F698.CD588D7C@helsinki.fi> David Fleming wrote: > 9207M is it's RAF maintenance record serial. Thank you for correcting. :-) Jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:07:20 +0200 From: Ivan Subrt To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New member to the list Message-ID: <01C12BE5.80D2FA60@GEN_SUBRT> Ahoj Vaso, zdravim Te z Plzne! Hi Vaso, greetings from Pilsen! Great to see another one from our neck of woods on the list (I still tend to consider Bohemia and Slovakia one country). I've seen both your profiles and models on the web (and your Alb. D.III (Oef) in the recent issue of HT Model Magazine, too) - great work. Can you tell what software you use for your profiles? Cheers! Ivan Subrt http://www.czechia.com/silverbird "The air is our sea." Czech proverb -----Původní zpráva----- Od: Václav Hochmuth [SMTP:hochmuth@nextra.sk] Odesláno: 22. srpna 2001 20:38 Komu: Multiple recipients of list Předmět: [WWI] New member to the list Hi all just let me to introduce myself. My name's Vaso (a nickname from Vaclav) and I live at Slovakia (perhaps somebody knows this country...) I followed the advices from few members of this list and decded to join it. I hope it was a good decision :-) I like to build mostly everything that flew until late 1945, with a special interest in original subjects (pre-war early planes and interwar racers and record aircraft) I think that Lubos has mentioned here some of my models. They could be seen on the new page of our modelling club at http://kpmpresov.host.sk The page isn't yet completed but I hope it will be up tomorrow at 8.00 CET. The page is mostly in a slovak language, but there are also some english captions. And don't forget to visit the profiles section... Vaso P.S. Excuse some mistakes, my english is not perfect (peut-etre je connais mieux la langue francaise...) ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3638 **********************