WWI Digest 3611 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Dumb question # 53 was RE: Dumb question #52 by "Gaston Graf" 2) Re: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker by Dennis Ugulano 3) 1/16 scale Albatros Model.... by Sharon Henderson 4) Looney-Bay Madness by "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" 5) RE: Dumb question # 53 was RE: Dumb question #52 by KarrArt@aol.com 6) RE: Dumb question # 53 was RE: Dumb question #52 by Shane Weier 7) RE: 1/16 scale Albatros Model.... by "Jay M. Thompson" 8) RE: dumb Looney-Bay Madness question by "Laskodi" 9) Re: French passes US by Ernest Thomas 10) RE: dumb Looney-Bay Madness question by "Tom Plesha" 11) futurshox's aeroplanes - Luft Verkehrs-Gesellschaft C-V1 by "Lyle Lamboley" 12) Re: French passes US by Ray Boorman 13) Re: My new toys by REwing@aol.com 14) Re: Of to a good start by "P. Howard" 15) Re: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 16) Re: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker Results by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 17) Ilya / was: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker by "Michael Kendix" 18) Roden Gotha G.IV Bomber Available by "Courtney Allen" 19) Re: Of to a good start by "Steven Perry" 20) Re: Ilya / was: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker by Witold Kozakiewicz 21) Holidays (again!) by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 22) Re: Spad pulpit by Witold Kozakiewicz 23) Italian pioneering aircraft by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 24) RE: dumb Looney-Bay Madness question by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 25) Tomorrow in history - The Italian front by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 26) Sopwith Triplane - FHM Maynard by Tim Linnell 27) RE: Tomorrow in history - The Italian front by "dfernet0" 28) Re: Spad pulpit by "dfernet0" 29) Re: Of to a good start by "dfernet0" 30) Re: Spad pulpit by Witold Kozakiewicz 31) Re: Spad pulpit by "dfernet0" 32) RE: Dumb question # 53 was RE: Dumb question #52 by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:25:56 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Dumb question # 53 was RE: Dumb question #52 Message-ID: > I know English isn't your first language - but your English *is* > very good. ...(blush).... thanks.... by correspondance with this fine list my knowledge only increases. > So go back and read what I said - which was that I *DON'T* paint the > smoke/black monofilament because with just a coat of satin > varnish it looks > near enough to the very dark grey of oiled steel wire cables. I reread it - looks like a slight misunderstanding, sorry. I do not know the product that you are using so I don't know how close it looks to real wire cables, hence I believed you actually paint it to look like real wire cables. happy rigging ;o) Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:36:44 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker Message-ID: <200108131936_MC3-DC48-E98C@compuserve.com> >> Incidentally, if you intend to junk the Roden, keep the engine. It looks much better than the half hearted Eduard effort. << Let me add my hearty agreement to this statement. I have both kits. A friend gave me the Eduard and I bought the Roden for a specific reason. The Roden engine is far and away a better engine. I will switch the two engines for my up coming project. Progress report: The Airfix Hannover has lozenge on top surfaces. The vacuform is about to get its wings. I am now the proud owner of a Lloyd Triplane thanks to Karen. Much too strange to sit in the box for long. Not at this place. Strange is the name of the game here. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 16:40:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: 1/16 scale Albatros Model.... Message-ID: <20010813234023.44114.qmail@web9807.mail.yahoo.com> Hi folks, Sorry to be out of touch for so long. Life has been interesting in the Chinese sense.... If anyone is interested, I have a lovely, un-begun model for sale. 1:16 scale Model Airways Albatros D.V A; this baby is out of production I think, and when finished will have a 22.5 inch wingspan. :-) It deserves to be built, and I need the money. To prevent anyone from being annoyed with a real advertisement, please contact me offline if interested. This is the baby brother to the Hasegawa 1:8 scale planes.... :-) May we live in slightly less interesting times real soon! Blessings, Rev. Sharon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:48:19 -0500 From: "Charlie and Linda Duckworth" To: "wwi-faq" Subject: Looney-Bay Madness Message-ID: <008901c12452$ab184fe0$3732b9cc@unionrai> I've bought and sold on eBay for the last few years and have acouple of observations. Apparently several bidders aren't aware of the other web sites where one can purchase OT books reasonable. Before biding any book on eBay I look at www.abebooks.com and do a search on the title. 100% on the time I could find it cheaper from one of the used books stores when I tracked the eBay closing. Am not sure why a person would buy a Fee thats available through Aeroclub or an online hobby shop for $33 and bid it up to $102 - my guess is they believe eBay is the only place to buy and aren't aware of the other sites or got caught up in the "I've got to have this auction fever". As to last minute sniping - there's software available that lets the bidder enter the item number, date and time of closure and your bid amount and it sends the bid off automatically. I'm way to 'cheap' to layout money for it but I assume many of the last second bids are made this way. As to the pros of eBay I've made enought selling built-up model railroad railcars to pay for my OT hobby and TR6 parts, I've only had one guy send me a bad check and he immediately forwarded a money order without me asking. You can also find the old Pyro/Inpact pre-WWI a/c models under $10 if you just wait. Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:03:19 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Dumb question # 53 was RE: Dumb question #52 Message-ID: In a message dated 8/12/01 11:42:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << I personally think that wire cable, dragged across half of France in the rain had better be protected somehow from rusting, else we should perhaps be painting it red/brown However, that's just my opinion, backed up by a notation in an RFC rigging notes telling the riggers to oil the cable. >> It may only be a French airplane, but here's what the latest WW I Aero has to say about NASM's Caudron: "The fittings and all wires were originally painted turquoise. It is still intact on most fittings, but because the wires flexed so much, little remains on the wires."" RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:27:17 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Dumb question # 53 was RE: Dumb question #52 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD411@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> RK says: > It may only be a French airplane, but here's what the latest > WW I Aero has to say about NASM's Caudron: > "The fittings and all wires were originally painted > turquoise. It is still > intact on most fittings, but because the wires flexed so > much, little remains on the wires."" Good grief. Only the French..... Now I know why I avoid their aircraft like the plague. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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My intention is to do a half-covered, half open version. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Sharon Henderson Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] 1/16 scale Albatros Model.... Hi folks, Sorry to be out of touch for so long. Life has been interesting in the Chinese sense.... If anyone is interested, I have a lovely, un-begun model for sale. 1:16 scale Model Airways Albatros D.V A; this baby is out of production I think, and when finished will have a 22.5 inch wingspan. :-) It deserves to be built, and I need the money. To prevent anyone from being annoyed with a real advertisement, please contact me offline if interested. This is the baby brother to the Hasegawa 1:8 scale planes.... :-) May we live in slightly less interesting times real soon! Blessings, Rev. Sharon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 18:24:31 -0700 From: "Laskodi" To: "WWI List Post" Subject: RE: dumb Looney-Bay Madness question Message-ID: <000d01c1245f$ded6d9c0$1b3819d0@f4hn201> <<>> Unfortunately this is very true. I'm fairly new to LoonE and have never sniped a win, but I am rethinking that policy and am probably going to start sniping on stuff that I really, really want. It's an unfortunate by-product of the way the system is set up, and at first I thought it was immoral, unethical, etc. (and pissed me off) but after seeing all the going on's I am beginning to come to the conclusion that is the only way you can win. So I apologize in advance if I start sniping! -----------Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 20:56:13 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: French passes US Message-ID: <3B78853D.CCA34DEE@bellsouth.net> Peter Fedders wrote: > > I heard on the news that France has passed the US in violent crime > per capita! We must work to regain our position. I can start beating my wife, if that'll help. E. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:59:50 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: RE: dumb Looney-Bay Madness question Message-ID: <000501c12464$ce22c800$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Bob, et al- After getting sniped a number of times on ebay my strategy has been: determine the absolute amount I am willing to pay for the item and bid that amount. I have paid more then I should have paid for some items BUT, I wanted the item. In some cases I got outbid and/or sniped. My attitude is and was, like I said, I bid my max and if someone outbid that amount, they wanted it more then me. I do not follow the bidding. When the bidding is over I check to see if it was a winning bid or not. HTH Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laskodi" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:28 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: dumb Looney-Bay Madness question > <<>> > Unfortunately this is very true. I'm fairly new to LoonE and have never > sniped a win, but I am rethinking that policy and am probably going to start > sniping on stuff that I really, really want. It's an unfortunate by-product > of the way the system is set up, and at first I thought it was immoral, > unethical, etc. (and pissed me off) but after seeing all the going on's I am > beginning to come to the conclusion that is the only way you can win. So I > apologize in advance if I start sniping! > -----------Bob > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:19:56 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: futurshox's aeroplanes - Luft Verkehrs-Gesellschaft C-V1 Message-ID: <008801c12467$af6ef340$1ef0aec7@lylelamb> This is a really excellent site...not too many OT, but enough to whet the appetite. Lyle http://www.futurshox.net/viewer.php3?id=461 http://www.futurshox.net/aerolistbyshow.php3#47 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:32:17 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: , Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: French passes US Message-ID: <20010814023259.CPVF5587.priv-edtnes27-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:57:17 -0400 (EDT), Ernest Thomas wrote: > > >Peter Fedders wrote: >> >> I heard on the news that France has passed the US in violent crime >> per capita! We must work to regain our position. > >I can start beating my wife, if that'll help. >E. > > I wouldnt, I bet you'd lose!!! Ray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:38:42 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My new toys Message-ID: <12d.2f6d400.28a9e932@aol.com> Karen said: "Actually, I get them through Wise Owl; they usually get to me by the end of the first month of each issue--this one is rather late." I also get mine from Wise Owl, but I got mine last week, about the 6th. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:40:55 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: Of to a good start Message-ID: <000201c1246b$f4a2dfe0$15868ece@phoward> Hey Steven, What, if anything do you have planned in reshaping the fuselage? I've got got the front of one modified, but I haven't set aside the time to tackle the rear deck. Trying to decifer the correct control panel layout for the Phonix built D.Is vs. the HB built models was the biggest distractor for me. I love the airframe, but got sidetracked after putting together most of the interior and hitting that brick wall. Keep us posted with the play by play if you don't mind. Paul H -----Original Message----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: [WWI] Of to a good start >There just isn't time to finish the AEG before the October Regional, so it >will have to wait. I've gone through too much aggrivation with that to rush >the finish. > >There is just enough time to comfortably build an Eduard HB D.I. I've had >this kit mellowing on the shelf for a couple of years now. I just love older >Eduard kits. All that brass and the fun of developing usable parts from >those limited run moldings. Loads of great modeling fun. > >I have always wanted to do the Starstrutter with the overwing gun "coffin" >open and the gun exposed. The kit pieces are solid and don't lend themselves >to this sort of abuse. They are, however, perfect male molds for crash >molding a hollow shell out of plasticard. > >The coffin shell was molded from 10 thou card and so in it's molded state is >more like 5 thou. This perfectly fits an Aeroclub Schwartslose (sp) gun >(Thanks E!). Referencing photos in the St. Harry Aeroplanatomy article on >the HB D.I. I cut the top cover away and mounted the gun. A belt of bullets >kyped from the Deuard MoS L kit looks good. The cover fits on and is >removable. > >A day and a half working on it and I haven't touched a kit part except for >using the coffin pieces as molds. Just a few detail pieces to add and I'll >post photos. > >I have an extra shell and can mold others if anyone has similar evil >intentions toward their HB gun coffin. > >sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:26:49 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker Message-ID: That well explains the masochistic Maurometz you did. (And which I *must* do, but dread.) ~Steve In a message dated 8/13/1 7:40:31 PM, Uggies@compuserve.com writes: << I am now the proud owner of a Lloyd Triplane thanks to Karen. Much too strange to sit in the box for long. Not at this place. Strange is the name of the game here. Dennis Ugulano >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:37:11 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker Results Message-ID: <39.192247b3.28a9f6e7@aol.com> Ah, good, then I'll mount the engine on a stand next to a work shed with a low ranker looking at his head-scratching mechanic mentor with the cannibalized heap of a Dr.I nearby. (After I reach retirement age, of course.) In a message dated 8/13/1 6:28:51 PM, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << I have about 8 of the Rodens (maybe more) which are intended for a club diorama project. I may end up having to build them all if the other club members get all picky about the struts :-( Incidentally, if you intend to junk the Roden, keep the engine. It looks much better than the half hearted Eduard effort. Shane >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 03:46:37 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Ilya / was: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker Message-ID: >From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com >That well explains the masochistic Maurometz you did. (And which I *must* >do, but dread.) Steve: May I recommend the ICM kit - I think it's available for under $15. Also, PART is bringing out a photoetch for it - isn't that correct, Witold?:) You simply must be build it. Each one of the engines is a kit in itself. If you need references, let me know. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:10:06 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Roden Gotha G.IV Bomber Available Message-ID: <00cb01c12477$00f8d460$b64d510c@worldnet.att.net> Sorry if someone has already mention this by squadron mail order has the Roden Gotha G.IV Bomber in stock for $25.97. Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:01:15 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Of to a good start Message-ID: <002a01c1247e$26a4d360$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > What, if anything do you have planned in reshaping the fuselage? Paul I wasn't aware the fuselage needed correcting. What needs doing? Keep us posted with the play by play > if you don't mind. Well so far only the gun coffin. All scratched except for an Aero Club gun and a PE ammo belt. Photos at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/gun.htm sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:47:22 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ilya / was: Brent; Roden's D.VII was Finnish Fokker Message-ID: <3B78C97A.882F4A2D@bg.am.lodz.pl> Michael Kendix napisał(a): > May I recommend the ICM kit - I think it's available for under $15. Also, > PART is bringing out a photoetch for it - isn't that correct, Witold?:) Yes I still work on it. It goes really slow - I had so many other things to finish before vacations. But I decided that design must be finished in August. Than some tests and in September set should be ready. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:42:53 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: Holidays (again!) Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F0F8@SERVER1> Just to let you all know that I am again leaving the office, for my August holidays. This year I was lucky enough to concentrate my holidays between July and August. I will not leave for a seaside this time, so I will be in touch through my private e-mail: a.casirati@lombardiacom.it. Please do not send messages to my office address (a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it) until the 27th August. All the very best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:51:09 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Spad pulpit Message-ID: <3B78CA5D.E381A937@bg.am.lodz.pl> dfernet0 napisał(a): > > Matt! > Have you seen this one? > http://209.235.66.44/WW1/French/Planes/Sa2-unk.jpg > > It's not very crisp, but shows the contents of the pilpit to some degree. > D. Thanks D. That is something I was looking for. On saturday I got A-model Spad A.2. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:10:05 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: Italian pioneering aircraft Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F0FA@SERVER1> I am just embarking on a research effort dealing with Italian pioneering aircraft, that is aeroplanes, successful or not, which were conceived, designed or built not later than 1915. It is not easy to find reliable references on such a theme and I will be extremely grateful for any suggestions. Every little bit helps ! Thanks very much in advance to all those who will take the trouble of answering to this message. Please reply to: a.casirati@lombardiacom.it All the very best to you all, Dr. Alberto Casirati Honorary Keeper - Aviation Section Bergamo Museum of History www.museostoricobg.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 03:22:58 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: dumb Looney-Bay Madness question Message-ID: <3B78D1D2.3C58BA55@mars.ark.com> I win lots of auctions without sniping. I also rarely pay anything even close to market price for anything. The trick is to be persistent - eventually the item you are looking for will surface and will also get missed by all the idiot snipers - the trick is not getting carried away and chasing it too far. Post the minimum bid you can get away with on everything that looks interesting (after reading the blurb carefully and doing whatever research is required to determine the real value of the item). Check back periodicly to track any auctions you have been outbid in - if they are still a reasonable price when it gets close to the end of bidding then maybe a late bid is in order - but only after very careful consideration. This netted me a very nice (us$100) Mercedes Benz 2 volume book for us$45 including shipping, and still in the factory packaging. A week later I saw the same book, from the same seller go for three times that because snipers got involved. Losers. Some things are inherently overpriced but that is a factor of supply and demand - want what everyone else wants and you'll pay for it (especially if you don't care what you pay). WW1 modelling (books and models) do not generally fall into that category, though some people do their levels best to push it there. As for being persistent - I have searches for various items bookmarked and I check them periodicly - for Nieuports, WW1 items, French, British and German WW1 aircraft, WW1 aircraft engines, etc. Works really well but it can sometimes take a while to go through all the possible auctions. (Breguet watches are a pain as nothing seems to get them all out of my French search - the search field is too limited in length) Mike Fletcher Nieuport29(41) "Jay M. Thompson" wrote: > > I'm not sure I could call it unethical Mark, as the nature of how the system > works pretty much forces this on everyone if they want to actually win > something. You can do it either manually or with programs made specifically > for it. My wife collects postcards, and she snipes every one she wins, and > other snipers take every one she loses. It does seem a bit unfair to those > who can't be present at the end of every auction they're interested in, but > until they come up with a different way to handle the auctions, if you don't > snipe you're not going to win much. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Mark Miller > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:59 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] dumb Looney-Bay Madness question > > >John_Impenna@hyperion.com writes: > > > > By the way, the same LoonE who paid the $102.50 for the Aeroclub Fe, was > also the nut who wound up paying the $548.78 for 5 Blue Max kits!!!!!!! >> > > Hi all > I've never used E-bay > so... > would someone be kind enough to explain this please > > I think I figured out that a sniper is someone that sneaks a bid in at the > last momemnt - > is this somehow unethical? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:32:06 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: Tomorrow in history - The Italian front Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F0FC@SERVER1> 16th August 1916: the sixth Isonzo Battle ends with the Italian conquest of Gorizia. 18th August 1917: the 11th Isonzo battle begins. Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:57:46 +0100 From: Tim Linnell To: Subject: Sopwith Triplane - FHM Maynard Message-ID: <010EF7D56E81D311AF850090273C43FE033E711A@eden.recorders.eurotherm.co.uk> Dear all, I'm currently engaged in building a model of a Sopwith Triplane representing one of the machines in which a relative (FHM Maynard of RNAS No. 1) won one of his 6 victories. So I was wondering whether anyone knows of any information or additional photos of the aircraft listed below. I should say that I have the Windsock datafile, and have exhaustively trawled the web using Google (where I also found a couple of service histories and some coloured graphics of three of the four machines). N5427 (Current favourite because of the nice Windsock photo!) N5479 N6301 ("Dusty II") N534 Cheers Tim Linnell PS If anyone's interested, the following URL's give Maynard's service history including WWI victories. However, he was perhaps most notable for organising the initial fighter defence of Malta, the so-called "Faith, Hope and Charity" Sea Gladiators, and although off-topic for this list, this is also a subject I'm very interested in researching beyond the "standard" sources (Shores and Cull, Poolman, HMSO) - please contact me by private e-mail if you have any information, anecdotes or photos. http://www.rafweb.org/Bio-Ma1.htm#MaynardF http://www.nzfpm.co.nz/aces/maynard.htm http://www.theaerodrome.com/aces/nzealand/maynard.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 07:31:57 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Tomorrow in history - The Italian front Message-ID: <008f01c124ac$5acacea0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Alberto! Four battles on the same spot in just one year? yikes. D. nr: "They called it Passcheandaele" thanks to the advice of fellow list members. Wonderful book! Can't wait to read "1914" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:43 AM Subject: [WWI] Tomorrow in history - The Italian front > 16th August 1916: the sixth Isonzo Battle ends with the Italian conquest of Gorizia. > > 18th August 1917: the 11th Isonzo battle begins. > > Alberto Casirati > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 07:34:09 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Re: Spad pulpit Message-ID: <009901c124ac$a723ca40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Witold! I also bought this kit but I'm still waiting for it (it comes in the mail with another yummy pegasus) Check the archives from some weeks ago, there are a quite interesting threads on the details of this rara avis as Matt is currently building one. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:54 AM Subject: [WWI] Re: Spad pulpit > dfernet0 napisał(a): > > > > Matt! > > Have you seen this one? > > http://209.235.66.44/WW1/French/Planes/Sa2-unk.jpg > > > > It's not very crisp, but shows the contents of the pilpit to some degree. > > D. > > Thanks D. That is something I was looking for. On saturday I got A-model Spad > A.2. > -- > Witold Kozakiewicz > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:17:30 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Re: Of to a good start Message-ID: <00cd01c124b2$b5396260$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Steve! > Well so far only the gun coffin. All scratched except for an Aero Club gun > and a PE ammo belt. > Photos at: > http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/gun.htm Good work! I also have to commend the neat 1/72 star strutter you finished last weekend. it was a beauty! I first saw this plane on a picture of FSM, it was on the article about a japanese modeler that also owned the "fabric time". I was intrigued by the strange strut arrangement, but always felt somehow dissapointed with the "coffin" over the top wing. It looks like if a designer, who took all pains for making those strange struts to avoid the cross rigging, would have said: "now the machine gun... well let's put it over here inside this neat box and finish this damned airplane!" D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:13:26 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Spad pulpit Message-ID: <3B7907D6.F89F4227@bg.am.lodz.pl> dfernet0 napisał(a): > > Witold! > I also bought this kit but I'm still waiting for it (it comes in the mail > with another yummy pegasus) > Check the archives from some weeks ago, there are a quite interesting > threads on the details of this rara avis as Matt is currently building one. > D. Thanks Diego. I will. I'm waiting for MiniDF and than with Part we will work on pe set for this kit. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:26:54 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Re: Spad pulpit Message-ID: <015a01c124b4$0581f240$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Witold! > Thanks Diego. I will. I'm waiting for MiniDF and than with Part we will work on > pe set for this kit. This is a GREAT new! I'm sure that Matt will become vegemite green when he reads this! :-) D. BTW, does someone knows if all is going all right with Matt's visit? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:40:34 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: RE: Dumb question # 53 was RE: Dumb question #52 Message-ID: In a message dated Mon, 13 Aug 2001 8:05:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KarrArt@aol.com writes: > It may only be a French airplane, . . . . . What you wrote! The assistant list editor will get you for this one. ;-)) Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3611 **********************