WWI Digest 3602 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Odp: New Toys by "Tom Solinski" 2) Re: Odp: New Toys by "Tom Solinski" 3) Re: WWI digest 3598 by JVT7532@aol.com 4) Re: on the bench by Ray Boorman 5) Re: My new toys by KarrArt@aol.com 6) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by KarrArt@aol.com 7) Re: Odp: New Toys by Ray Boorman 8) RE: Odp: on the bench by Shane Weier 9) Re: on the bench by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: Airco DH1 by Todd Hayes 11) Odp New Toys list 3599 by "Neil Eddy" 12) E-bay "moniker." by Phil Bytheway 13) Re: Quick Build Finnish Fokker D.VII by Jan Vihonen 14) Odp: RE: Odp: on the bench by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 15) Re: on the bench by Ernest Thomas 16) Re: Ultra rare goody on ebay by Ernest Thomas 17) Re: Ultra rare goody on ebay by Ernest Thomas 18) Re: My new toys by Scottfking@aol.com 19) Various by Matt Bittner 20) Re: Ultra rare goody on ebay by Shane Weier 21) Commies come to power in OZ, was... by Ernest Thomas 22) Finished HB.DI by "Steven Perry" 23) Re: Finished HB.DI by "Tom Plesha" 24) Odp: Finished HB.DI by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 25) Re: My new toys by Dennis Ugulano 26) Re: Finished HB.DI by Dennis Ugulano 27) Re: Odp: Finished HB.DI by "Steven Perry" 28) SSW DIII by "Rick Milas" 29) Odp: SSW DIII by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 30) Re: My new toys by Karen Rychlewski 31) Re: Quick Build Finnish Fokker D.VII by "Hans Trauner" 32) Re: Odp: Quick Build Finnish Fokker D.VII by "Hans Trauner" 33) Re: What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? by "Hans Trauner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:22:50 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Odp: New Toys Message-ID: <000801c1221d$48797580$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> > I heard a of the players who play the weird rules Ozz football also > work part time for the post office. Sorry for a bit of way ot, but with all the OZ bashing they earned a complement this week. The TV Sci-Fi show "Farsxape" produced in OZ paid some great tributes to the cartoons of our childhood here in the states. The tools of Willie Coyote came from OZME, instead of ACME. Sorry Sorry Say, didn't Al put together a great little flying D-VIII? There Back OT. tomS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:23:59 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Odp: New Toys Message-ID: <000f01c1221d$717e8ec0$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> > I think it'll be alright as long as they can keep that d@#% fool Crocodile > Hunter idiot from leaping on it. > sp GEEMANEE by crakiee that was a tough pair o'wings to smash! Luckily me mates were there to help! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:29:58 EDT From: JVT7532@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 3598 Message-ID: <75.19021253.28a60ec6@aol.com> In a message dated 8/10/2001 12:51:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wwi@wwi-models.org writes: << OK people, here is an update on the 1:9 scale Fokker D-VIII I'm building for Electric R/C. >> Nice Job Allen, I have plans for a few park flyers myself on the board, namely a Sopwith Baby on floats and a DH.2 that I got out of a British RC magazine, these will be my second & third electric's. Your color scheme is almost the same as my Fokker D.Vll that is 1/6 standoff scale only I power it with a OS 48 fourstroke motor. She looks and sounds great in the air. Anyway I enjoyed seeing your build up, just remember to keep em light. Best regards, Jon Jon V. Theisen 7532 Lawndale Ave. Phila., PA 19111-2706 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:31:11 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: , Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: on the bench Message-ID: <20010811043441.TQOH1975.priv-edtnes12-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Lets see, on the bench at present 1/72 Comic Camel conversion, I might finish this by Christmas. 1/72 DH5 Its been on the bench so long its taking root. (18 months) 1/72 Cierva C30 With luck this will get done please please before I loose interest. 1/400 Flower Class Corvette (Blame that dreaded Legs Von Pearson for that one) Was supposed to be finished really fast quick build, how long can something that small take fer chrisakes...... ;0) oh and erm well (really extreme ot alert) I hate to mention this one its worse than the dreaded 1*9 things. I'm just cutting plastic out for a 1/48th TSR2. I know its 1/48th and a kero burner. But hey you have to root for such a shining example of why you keep beaurocrats the heck away from anything that flies...... I have the same feelings about the Avro Arrow too. Do you think I have a finishing problem here ;0) Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:35:25 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My new toys Message-ID: <4b.f8f651d.28a6100d@aol.com> In a message dated 8/10/01 8:45:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, krychski@earthlink.net writes: << The machine gun car was used in the Middle East--anyone know where I can find some 1/35 Arabs and camels? Anyone want to build me a 1/35 Handley Page 0/400 to sit next to it? >> Go ahead and make all the Arabs and Camels in 1/35- then put them in the magic shrinking machine- set it for "1/48".........I know where there's a 1/48 0/400..........overall, this method would be a lot easier than making a #$#%^$# 0/400 in #@#$#$%$ 1/35! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:35:26 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: <103.75d579c.28a6100e@aol.com> In a message dated 8/10/01 5:17:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mdf@mars.ark.com writes: << The fuselage lacks the trapeziod section of the rear fuselage - the hardest thing to fix and the single most often missed feature on Nieuport kits, >> I keep forgetting about that. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:35:40 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: , Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Odp: New Toys Message-ID: <20010811043927.ZOVH838.priv-edtnes10-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:28:07 -0400 (EDT), Tom Solinski wrote: >> I think it'll be alright as long as they can keep that d@#% fool >>Crocodile >> Hunter idiot from leaping on it. >> sp > >GEEMANEE by crakiee that was a tough pair o'wings to smash! Luckily >me >mates were there to help! > > Yup the plane is now pinned to the wall butterfly fashion. With a big 18 inch bowie knife doing the pinning. I wonder if the rigging held up.......... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:11:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Odp: on the bench Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3F6@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Grzegorz > It is not > completed, beacause after hard (but very funny) working on it to above > condition, about year ago I've notice new Roden D.VI in > modelshop... and gone mad. Welcome to the club. Shane (who never ever seems to start a conversion or scratchbuild without a kit being released) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:30:05 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: on the bench Message-ID: <117.2f7ee24.28a61cdd@aol.com> In a message dated 8/10/01 9:37:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Ray_Boorman@telus.net writes: << I'm just cutting plastic out for a 1/48th TSR2. I know its 1/48th and a kero burner. But hey you have to root for such a shining example of why you keep beaurocrats the heck away from anything that flies...... I have the same feelings about the Avro Arrow too. Do you think I have a finishing problem here ;0) Ray >> Heck, in the last year, the ONLY 3D work I've been able to fling onto the work bench is a 1/8 scale goat- and that's a repair job on a sculpture I did over twenty years ago...it's looking at me right now, putty oozing from its broken legs. It's name is Myrtle (true)....Myrtle the Goat. I knew the prototype. The model was a wedding present for a buddy and his new wife- it celebrated the couple's first major purchase together. The wife is loooooong gone, as is the prototype animal, but the model is still around. Not much rigging on this, and simple black and white paint job....a touch of pink around the nose. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Airco DH1 Message-ID: <20010811061118.66728.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Hi DK, Are you building a DH1? FSM had an article about a 1:32 scratchbuilt one 2-3 years ago. The builder did an amazing job on it. Todd --- Karen Rychlewski wrote: > Len Smith wrote: > > > Dame Karen, > > Deleted your note by mistake so I can't quote it, > but did you know that > > Flying Machine Press is bringing out two books on > DH A/c, due out in > > September. First will contain ' first truly good > information on the DH1 and > > DH1a ever to be published'. Also detailed > drawings and lavish color art. > > Yes, I know about the two DH books, but thanks > anyway; I will probably pick > them up when they're published. Since I'm still only > at the nacelle/engine > stage I figure I can't go too wrong--and if I did, > well, so what: the world > won't end. I'm hoping the mysterious "...first truly > good information" will > have to do with service use and markings rather than > basic construction. I'm > using the Wylam drawings in 'Scale Aircraft > Drawings' which are certainly > detailed enough; I'll be interested to see how they > match the info in the book. > > Dame Karen > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:35:12 +1000 From: "Neil Eddy" To: Subject: Odp New Toys list 3599 Message-ID: <001301c12238$28a80ee0$1b5532d2@mannock> "Where are all the real smart alecs from Oz hiding?... Last night the wallabies attacked in force...there's only a few of us left now..no word from our drop kick CoC Gen. "Bluey" Haig...those of us left are holed up inside a laager made of used vegemite jars, beer cans and stubbies...our only effective weapon the Ni 17C Vegemite bomb has been used up. Just now koalas in drop bear mode have taken a terrible toll of the unwary and the wounded...things look blacker than a emus a___hole here. Remember me to mother ...and the queen, send vegemite quick...I don't think we can hold out mu.... Neil E getting back to rigging the control wires on the tailplane of his Eduard Albatross DV... : )) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 00:30:57 -0700 From: Phil Bytheway To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: E-bay "moniker." Message-ID: <907BC1780991D411A7F5006008AFAEC6DDC6@PIONEER> mine is phil.b phil bytheway ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 12:40:03 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Quick Build Finnish Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <3B74FD73.5E7CE092@helsinki.fi> Brent, Let me got through my references and I'll send you a scan of the most recent version of the splinter camo and some pics, too. Unfortunately, I will only be able to do it on monday at the earliest (when I get back to the office, that is). The scheme has previously been depicted somewhat erroneously and the most accurate publication so far is in Suomen Ilmailuhistoriallinen Lehti (or The Finnish Aviation Historical Magazine). I don't remember though, whether there were anything for the lower wing. > I whittled down my choices to the old Fokker D.VII. I want to build her as > the Finnish bird with splinter camo. I have a couple views of her, but I > need pictures and a camo pattern for the lower wing. Any help? > > I will attempt to build this model in about one day. > Aow! Sorry, can't make it any faster. :-( Let me know if you are still interested. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:06:04 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: RE: Odp: on the bench Message-ID: <008101c12266$650f61c0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Cheers Shane! Grzegorz ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Odp: on the bench > Grzegorz > > > It is not > > completed, beacause after hard (but very funny) working on it to above > > condition, about year ago I've notice new Roden D.VI in > > modelshop... and gone mad. > > Welcome to the club. > > Shane > > (who never ever seems to start a conversion or scratchbuild without a kit > being released) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:08:12 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: on the bench Message-ID: <3B752E3C.F96C3CA4@bellsouth.net> On the bench, a Meikraft Dornier D.1. Just finished the 1/72 Stropp(and it looks AWESOME!) Back burner; All the same stuff that was there last year. If you must know, look through the archives. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:38:08 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ultra rare goody on ebay Message-ID: <3B753540.5CE93287@bellsouth.net> WOW! I always wanted a Spandau made out of der-ders. And who knows, if I buy it, this guy may be able to make the final payment on the 1973 Ford Pinto that's been rusting in his front yard since 1985. And since I'm talking about ebay stuff, my ebay handle is bitemedave. But don't worry, I generally only bid on stuff that Dave Burke wants, and that's only to drive up the price he'll have to pay. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:39:27 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ultra rare goody on ebay Message-ID: <3B75358F.78C3E85B@bellsouth.net> One more thing, since when did the a-hole aussies become commies? E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:57:04 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My new toys Message-ID: <109.3f8783e.28a693b0@aol.com> In a message dated 8/10/01 10:45:47 PM EST, krychski@earthlink.net writes: << Nobody's mentioned the July/August Windsock and the Balilla Datafile--am I the first or the last to get them? >> Presumably we are among the last to get them. I am still waiting. I presume you are also getting them direct from Albatros, but elected not to pay the extra for airmail. Have you heard when/if the Ashland Ky club is having their next show? Scott (Skippy) King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 07:18:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Various Message-ID: <20010811141815.31803.qmail@web11705.mail.yahoo.com> I've been reading the archives while here, in Ohio, and wanted to chime in on a couple of things. About the Toe Scale (1/32nd) Nie.17, if memory serves, Hobbycraft also missed the exhaust channel under the cowl. About the Paul Schmitt, someone was wondering what is was. Well, that has been answered but I know what it is - it's a type that sorely needs to be put out in 1/72nd!!! In fact, there are a whole bunch of French types that need to be kitted. C'mon, Sierra Scale!!! :-) Someone on the list - I forget whom, unfortunately, made some 1/72nd plans of the Caudron G.6. I was hoping to get a set of those 1/72nd plans, but haven't seen them yet. Just wondering who it was... Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:27:09 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Ultra rare goody on ebay Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3F7@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> E > One more thing, since when did the a-hole aussies become commies? 11:30 Now, back to the Vegemite mine comrades. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:45:54 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Commies come to power in OZ, was... Message-ID: <3B754522.34013EAC@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > 11:30 > Was that am or pm? (it matters for tax purposes) > Now, back to the Vegemite mine comrades. I'm ashamed to confess that I still have yet to try the Vegemite. Every time I was tempted, I either lacked nerve, or the occassion. Perhaps I could open it to celebrate the new regime. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:58:33 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Finished HB.DI Message-ID: <002f01c12276$18739d80$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> I finished a Toko HB D.I this morning. I used the kit decals and toned the wings down with an overspray. The metal cowl was done in rub & buff with the riffles turned by a dowel in a Dremel. The CDL tailfeathers came out very well. I penciled structure directly on the fairly light gray Toko plastic, then built up the CDL paint in light coats. The plastic was thin enough that it gives a translucent effect showing the structure when backlit. Unfortunately the cheapo digicam didn't catch the riffles or the CDL to best advantage, Photos at: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/kd.htm sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:11:39 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Finished HB.DI Message-ID: <000c01c12277$ec485320$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi SP- Commander Perry strikes again with another beautiful aircraft. Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: [WWI] Finished HB.DI > I finished a Toko HB D.I this morning. I used the kit decals and toned the > wings down with an overspray. The metal cowl was done in rub & buff with the > riffles turned by a dowel in a Dremel. The CDL tailfeathers came out very > well. I penciled structure directly on the fairly light gray Toko plastic, > then built up the CDL paint in light coats. The plastic was thin enough that > it gives a translucent effect showing the structure when backlit. > > Unfortunately the cheapo digicam didn't catch the riffles or the CDL to best > advantage, > > Photos at: > http://home.tampabay.rr.com/sperry03/kd.htm > sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:19:49 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: Finished HB.DI Message-ID: <014d01c12279$10786f40$0200a8c0@x.pl> Steven! Little beauty, as far Brandenburg can be beauty. What do you think about fuselage 'plywood' decals? On your pics look good, but in nature? Looking at it on my decal sheet, I have strong temptation not to use it. And what about struts? I decided to make Linke-Crawford early version without vertical stabilizer and with Polish-like checkerboard on fuselage, 28.40, but this number overpainted. I've cleared all parts including Part's PE, but not glued or painted anything. Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:20:59 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: My new toys Message-ID: <200108111121_MC3-DC33-1342@compuserve.com> >> Presumably we are among the last to get them. I am still waiting. I presume you are also getting them direct from Albatros, but elected not to pay the extra for airmail. << I don't have mine yet and I do have air mail direct from Albatros. I do hope they get here soon. By "they" I mean the Datafile also as I have the double subscription. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:24:44 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Finished HB.DI Message-ID: <200108111124_MC3-DC26-939D@compuserve.com> sp, Excellent. Thanks for sharing. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:36:02 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Odp: Finished HB.DI Message-ID: <003f01c1227b$550cab60$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > Steven! > Little beauty, as far Brandenburg can be beauty. Thanks Grzegorz > What do you think about fuselage 'plywood' decals? On your pics look good, > but in nature? Looking at it on my decal sheet, I have strong temptation not > to use it. Not even close as far as a scale woodgrain effect, but they are a nice dark shade and don't look too bad on the model. I just covered them with future, but they might look better with a dark tinted future sprayed over them. > And what about struts? A nightmare. Had to end up adjusting the lower vee to get it to fit. > I decided to make Linke-Crawford early version without vertical stabilizer > and with Polish-like checkerboard on fuselage, 28.40, but this number > overpainted. I've cleared all parts including Part's PE, but not glued or > painted anything Sounds nice, fooking forward to seing it finished. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:39:01 -0500 From: "Rick Milas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: SSW DIII Message-ID: Sorry to bring this up as it may have been discussed at some length in the past, but I'm about to start the Toko SSW and want to do Udet's plane. Some have indicated that the wings were later painted red. The photo on the inside cover of the Datafile looks like this could be the case, although I realize that it's difficult to tell from photos. Painting the wings red instead of using lozenge would make for a quicker build. Does anyone wish to comment on the wing color of Udet's SSW DIII, or has this subject been too overdone? Thanks in advance. Rick Milas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:57:41 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: SSW DIII Message-ID: <01b501c1227e$600d69c0$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi Rick! I don't know about red Udet's wings, but all models of that airplane I've seen looked wonderfull with red fuselage and lozenged wings, so I think it is better to make it like this. All red would look like Red Baron's (ask Ira 'Dicta Ira' for details). Does Datafile include plans of D.III early version with full engine cover and longer wings? I'm interested especially in wingtips-airlons shape and detail. Grzegorz (with 3 Toko Siemens D.III in the cupboard, one for early production, one for Udet and one for green D.IV) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 12:01:59 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My new toys Message-ID: <3B7556F7.5D738C61@earthlink.net> Dennis Ugulano wrote: > >> Presumably we are among the last to get them. I am still waiting. I > presume > you are also getting them direct from Albatros, but elected not to pay the > extra for airmail. << > > I don't have mine yet and I do have air mail direct from Albatros. > I do hope they get here soon. By "they" I mean the Datafile also as I have > the double subscription. Actually, I get them through Wise Owl; they usually get to me by the end of the first month of each issue--this one is rather late. Karen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:15:24 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Quick Build Finnish Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <002b01c12280$d39b1980$91ad72d4@FRITZweb> Help is on the way, Brent! SUOMEN ILMAVOIMIEN LENTOKONEET 1918-38, by KALEVI KESKINEN, KARI STENMAN & KLASU NISKA contains nice drawings and pic. I'll sent you scan in a few minutes. If anyone else is interested, contact me off-list. The drawing shows a three-tone-splinter! But regretably no colours are stated... sorry. Does anybody has nearer infos? Finnish listees, listen! Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Theobald" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: [WWI] Quick Build Finnish Fokker D.VII > Howdy Gang! > > I whittled down my choices to the old Fokker D.VII. I want to build her as > the Finnish bird with splinter camo. I have a couple views of her, but I > need pictures and a camo pattern for the lower wing. Any help? > > I will attempt to build this model in about one day. > > Later! > > Brent > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:23:58 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Odp: Quick Build Finnish Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <003d01c12282$060a0f60$91ad72d4@FRITZweb> Grzegorz, the finnish book mentioned just a few mail before says: Fokker D VII The plane was designed in Germany. In 1919 three aircraft were acquired from Germany to Finnish Air Force. Codes IC 350-352 and later IC od ID 355 - 357. Type was in service 1919 - 1924. The photos shows a lozenge covered Fokker D VII (OAW) 8583/??, with large swastikas with white surroundings. One pic shows a similiar, if not identical machine, now with skies. At last there are two photos of ID 357, now repainted in a three-tone-splinter. Swastikas now on white fields on top of the wing and on the rudder. None on fuselage, but 'ID 357' with white surrounding. As said before, scans on request. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:34:53 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? Message-ID: <009801c12283$8ccd27c0$91ad72d4@FRITZweb> Thanks, Mike! Too easy! Of course I know your page but it would have been too easy to take a look myself... Hans ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3602 **********************