WWI Digest 3597 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Rhinebeck in September by Michael and Sharon Alvarado 2) finish for struts by "Tom Plesha" 3) Re: finish for struts by "Pedro Soares" 4) Marcio's G-4 hunt by Andreikor@aol.com 5) Welcome back! by "Kenneth Zelnick" 6) Rhinebeck Jamboree by Andreikor@aol.com 7) Re: Rhinebeck in September by "Lyle Lamboley" 8) Re: finish for struts/again by "Tom Plesha" 9) Re: Rhinebeck Jamboree by "Lyle Lamboley" 10) Re: Ni.11 colour conundrum by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 11) Re: Hey Hey!: wasRe: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by "Lee M." 12) Re: Ni.11 colour conundrum by "Jeff Wilson" 13) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by "Lee M." 14) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by Shane Weier 15) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by KarrArt@aol.com 16) OFF LIST: Ph鰊ix D.I by "Michael Kendix" 17) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by "Lee M." 18) RE: OFF LIST: Ph鰊ix D.I by "Michael Kendix" 19) =?GB2312?B?x/O5ug==?= by 罗生 20) RE: OFF LIST: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ph=F6nix?= D.I by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: Loon -E-Bay was Re: Revell Nie. 17 by Craig Gavin 22) Re: A slight correction was List Members Ebay aliases by David Fleming 23) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by David Fleming 24) Corrected List Members Ebay aliases by David Fleming 25) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by "Bob Pearson" 26) SPAD A2 Grates are woven... by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 27) =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=5BWWI=5D_RE:_OFF_LIST:_Ph=F6nix_D.I?= by "dfernet0" 28) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by "dfernet0" 29) RE: Marcio and Injected kits by "dfernet0" 30) =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=5BWWI=5D_RE:_=5BWWI=5D_RE:_OFF_LIST:_Ph=F6nix_D.I?= by "Gaston Graf" 31) test - I'm back by Witold Kozakiewicz 32) RE: test - I'm back by "dfernet0" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 19:09:28 -0400 From: Michael and Sharon Alvarado To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rhinebeck in September Message-ID: <3B731827.C7CC0FA9@verizon.net> Lyle, My wife Sharon, my daughter Jenna and I are planning on being there. Alvie Lyle Lamboley wrote: > Hi guys, > Just wondering if anyone was planning on attending the Rhinebeck Jamboree in > a few weeks.... > Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:34:11 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: finish for struts Message-ID: <000701c1212b$cb38eb60$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Everyone- I know this has been answered but,..... I am finishing up the struts for the Pup and I made them out of bamboo. I also made the tailskid out of bamboo and used brown liquid shoe polish for the stain, to be top coated with Future. Does anyone wish to comment that perhaps wood stain would be better then shoe polish and then top coated with Future or does in not matter? TIA Tom S.E.MI. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:47:20 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: finish for struts Message-ID: <005c01c1212d$a1b7b260$8d090dd5@pc1> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Plesha To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: [WWI] finish for struts > Does anyone wish to comment that perhaps wood stain would be better then > shoe polish and then top coated with Future or does in not matter? > TIA > Tom > S.E.MI. Tom, I usualy use a wash of powdered watercolour pencil and future. A couple of coats will do it. BUT, woodstain as you mention would probably be a good alternative. That's why I love this list. Sucking on everybody else's ideas is great fun :-) Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:55:19 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Marcio's G-4 hunt Message-ID: Marcio wrote: << Unfortunately I took a look at all online hobby shops I know and found no Caudron G-4 vacforms >> Phoenix made a G-4 years ago. Look hard enough and you will find one. Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:56:38 -0500 From: "Kenneth Zelnick" To: Subject: Welcome back! Message-ID: <001401c1212e$ee793e60$722bb4d0@zelnick> Hi Ira, Your name is indeed legend on the list, courtesy of "Dicta Ira". I think I joined after you left, but saw some of your earlier posts while I was lurking. Welcome back, indeed! Regards, Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:57:23 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Rhinebeck Jamboree Message-ID: Lyle asked: << Hi guys, Just wondering if anyone was planning on attending the Rhinebeck Jamboree in a few weeks....>>> Do you have the dates? Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:55:43 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Re: Rhinebeck in September Message-ID: <004701c1212e$d2d262e0$9bf9aec7@lylelamb> Alvie! I'll actually be bringing my Fokker E.V repainted in Osterkamp's supposed scheme in black and yellow stripes. The main advantage is that it will be easy to find in case it lands in the trees. :-) But, I'm sure it will be a perfect day with light winds and few clouds....I have my fingers crossed. Looking forward to meeting you and yours-- Lyle ----Original Message ----- From: "Michael and Sharon Alvarado" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: [WWI] Re: Rhinebeck in September > Lyle, > > My wife Sharon, my daughter Jenna and I are planning on being there. > > Alvie > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:19:21 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: finish for struts/again Message-ID: <001901c12132$1a7d8680$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Thanks Pedro- Pedro says: > I usualy use a wash of powdered watercolour pencil and future. A couple of > coats will do it. BUT, woodstain as you mention would probably be a good > alternative. > > That's why I love this list. Sucking on everybody else's ideas is great fun. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:49:23 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Re: Rhinebeck Jamboree Message-ID: <005f01c12136$4fe76580$9bf9aec7@lylelamb> ----- Original Message ----- From: > Do you have the dates? > Cheers, > Andrei September 8 & 9 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 20:57:13 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Ni.11 colour conundrum Message-ID: <3B733169.A552D75@mars.ark.com> The upper surfaces should be green and brown, and the undersides either cdl or light blue. (I would lean toward cdl as the blue usually appears darker). Aluminium dope was not in common use yet when the N.11/16 were in service (I have found 1 single example that was probably redoped in aluminium). Flying surfaces were surrounded by cdl tapes, and the wheel covers are either white or cdl (probably white). Since it was shot down behind German lines there might also be a technical description of the machine somewhere... Mike Fletcher Jeff Wilson wrote: > > Morning All, > > while waiting for some Fokker D.VII puttying to dry last night, I pulled down the new Eduard Ni.11 for a spot of perhaps-next-project-mental-modelling and hit a possible colour snag that you can hopefully aid in solving. > > Eduard's instructions call for N1135 (Capitaine le Comte, Escadrille N26, July 1916, white flaming torch emblem) to be finished in green and khaki uppers, silver doped underside of lower wing, CDL underside of tailplane with the silver dope returned around all the topside of all flying surfaces including that of the tail surfaces (the kit provides the masking for this purpose). Eduard's painting directions do not indicate the colour of the under fuselage or the underside of the upper wing and the box portrays the underside of the upper wing as CDL, the returned silver dope being shown as a thin band around the upper wing upper edge only. The box also appears to show the lower wing underside as CDL with a thin silver doped band to the upper surface only. > > http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/central-services/Photo/Nieuport.jpg > > Now, while the box rendition looks very attractive, it is somewhat at odds with the instructions and I'd love a Nieuport expert to step in and straighten this one out. What colour is correct for the upper wing underside, the fuselage underside, the lower wing underside and the tail surface undersides? Is the returned silver dope only returned around the upper side of the flying surfaces, or does it continue to the underside of any CDL flying surfaces? Am I confusing myself with no good reason to do so? > > Many thanks in advance, > > Jeff > > nb: still working steadily on two Esci D.VII's > nu: that depends on how this question gets answered... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 20:20:02 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org, IRAtrumpet@aol.com Subject: Re: Hey Hey!: wasRe: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <3B71E542.8BA5050E@x25.net> Missed you my friend. I knew you would be back...I just didn't know when. I will be running off on a vacation the 14th so any news after that will have to wait three weeks till we get back. glad to see your return. Lee M. New Braunfels IRAtrumpet@aol.com wrote: > Hey Steve! (and all Listies, "new" and "familiar") > > THANKS! > > Long time indeed! Too much work, marital turmoil, divorce negotiations, > and (now) a possible reconciliation, and (whew!) not much time for things > miniature or Lists discussing same. > > I have a studio now, about 1,000 sq ft, to "escape" to. That is my music > room and model "factory", as it were. I hope to have photos of new projects > for perusal very soon. > > Good to be back! I miss you folks as well as the smell of glue, paint, > and solvents. Ooh YEAH! > > Have Fun!! > > IRA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:30:19 +1000 From: "Jeff Wilson" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Ni.11 colour conundrum Message-ID: This is excellent information, many thanks Mike. Digging a little deeper, would the brown in the upper surface camouflage be dark or mid. and is it likely to replace the green or the khaki portion of the scheme shown on the box art? ie. if you view the image located below, does the brown go to the tail and nose of the fuselage or would it underlie the flaming torch emblem? http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/central-services/Photo/Nieuport.jpg Many thanks and best regards, Jeff >>> mdf@mars.ark.com - 10/8/01 10:56 AM >>> The upper surfaces should be green and brown, and the undersides either cdl or light blue. (I would lean toward cdl as the blue usually appears darker). Aluminium dope was not in common use yet when the N.11/16 were in service (I have found 1 single example that was probably redoped in aluminium). Flying surfaces were surrounded by cdl tapes, and the wheel covers are either white or cdl (probably white). Since it was shot down behind German lines there might also be a technical description of the machine somewhere... Mike Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 20:38:19 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: <3B71E98B.BD0834D4@x25.net> Now that I have picked up the Hobby Craft, Ni 17, in 1/32nd scale I am waiting, patiently, for the word as to how hard it will be to convert to what it is intended to be with all the major corrections. Couldn't resist any longer. If it is hard enough I may have to make it an an "Out of the Box" example. Lee M. Shane Weier wrote: > Michael says: > > > I doubt that Barry has a Revell Nieuport 17 for sale. I > > wouldn't say it's > > the most rare kit but it doesn't seem to appear as regularly > > as some other > > Even if it DID, Barry wouldn't have any - remember the Ace Nungbittner, > who'd swoop from the sun and nab any that Barry had before they had more > than a few flying hours > > Shane > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:25:39 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3E8@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Lee > Now that I have picked up the Hobby Craft, Ni 17, in 1/32nd scale I am > waiting, patiently, for the word as to how hard it will be > to convert to > what it is intended to be with all the major corrections. > > Couldn't resist any longer. If it is hard enough I may have > to make it an > an "Out of the Box" example. Matt isn't around, so I expect that Mike will have to be the one to tell me I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that this is a pretty good kit. There's a long article in the September 93 Finescale Modeller and Windsock gave it the treatment in September 91 IIRC the Windsock article is a buildup br RLR and it's there that I got my positive impression Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:53:00 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: In a message dated 8/9/01 6:38:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lemen@x25.net writes: << Now that I have picked up the Hobby Craft, Ni 17, in 1/32nd scale I am waiting, patiently, for the word as to how hard it will be to convert to what it is intended to be with all the major corrections. Couldn't resist any longer. If it is hard enough I may have to make it an an "Out of the Box" example. Lee M. >> Just off the top of my head, I seem to remember that about the only real problems with the kit is that the rudder is too small, and there's something about the wheels (that part I can't quite pull out of the memory)- any other extra work involved would be refinements and details. RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 03:13:49 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: OFF LIST: Ph鰊ix D.I Message-ID: >From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Really, I've only begun with it. >Model is good at first look, and fits also good. >Be careful of tailplane placing in fuselage: doesn't fit well, but it >is >easy to make it good by sanding gap in fuselage, after glueing >halves. >Engine needs detailing, but I haven't done it yet. >Seat is to heavy for me, I made it lighter wit Dremel-like tool. >PE stick is flat, I've made new from copper wire. >Also, I've cut prop's axle from fuselage half, to fit halves better. Then >drilled hole in front fuselage and made new axle from plastic rod. >What painting scheme you chose? >Sorry for beeng chaotic, but it is late... >Good luck!!! >Grzegorz Grzegorz: I am answering off list because I am building the D.I for Internet Modeler and altohugh it is not a big secret, I don't want to describe all the details. I would like to do 328.22 with the black and white zig-zag stripe on te fuselage but the datafile says it has a camera hatch, so I don't know what that looks like. I will probably do 328.26 with the wheel crosses. I too wish I had kept the "L" decal from the Aviatik but I used it on the Aviatik D.I (see WWI Modeling web site) under my name. I agree about all the shortcomings you mentioned. I will keep the prop shaft but if it gets in the way, I can replace it. The seat is a little thick but I like the control stick - it is almost out of sight when the fusealge is closed. I will give it an extra coat of acrylic paint to thicken it up. The main thickness problem is the wings' trailng edge but I think that's difficult to fix with all those scalloped trailing edges. The engine could defintely use some additions. Thanks for your comments. I am also building the Ph鰊ix D.II at the same time - red heart decals look nice! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:36:48 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: <3B720550.576D11CF@x25.net> Thank you fpor the "leg up on things". I do believe I have the Sept. 93 FSM issue around here and will give it a shot. I I have been very remiss in gathering the info over time but I have not seen very many comments on the larger models. I really do prefer to make 1/48 and larger. Not that I have all that amount of space on hand. I enjoy working on them a lot more. Besides I seem to always give them away in a bit anyway. If I can find an "ACE" for the NI 17 it will reside in the Aces Association collection, in Downtown, San Antonio, Texas, when finished. I have made hundreds of models over the years and only have about 12 on hand. All given away... Recommendations for Aces, I can research, are accepted and truly welcomed... Lee M. Shane Weier wrote: > Lee > > > Now that I have picked up the Hobby Craft, Ni 17, in 1/32nd scale I am > > waiting, patiently, for the word as to how hard it will be > > to convert to > > what it is intended to be with all the major corrections. > > > > Couldn't resist any longer. If it is hard enough I may have > > to make it an > > an "Out of the Box" example. > > Matt isn't around, so I expect that Mike will have to be the one to tell me > I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that this is a pretty good kit. > > There's a long article in the September 93 Finescale Modeller and Windsock > gave it the treatment in September 91 > > IIRC the Windsock article is a buildup br RLR and it's there that I got my > positive impression > > Shane > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 04:11:27 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: OFF LIST: Ph鰊ix D.I Message-ID: Yes, I'm a flippin' moron! Aghh _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:52:56 +0800 From: 罗生 To: wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Subject: =?GB2312?B?x/O5ug==?= Message-ID: <200108100457.AAA21226@mustang.sr.unh.edu> 请问有400克以上的黑卡纸张吗? 请至:lhg2001@21cn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:05:43 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: OFF LIST: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ph=F6nix?= D.I Message-ID: <3B736BA7.A16AF6FD@bellsouth.net> Michael Kendix wrote: > > Yes, I'm a flippin' moron! > > Aghh ROTFL!!!! E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:08:56 +0000 From: Craig Gavin To: Subject: Re: Loon -E-Bay was Re: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: You can add mine: cgavin = Craig Gavin > From: David Fleming > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:36:23 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Loon -E-Bay was Re: Revell Nie. 17 > > > Speaking of which, anyone else want to add their ebay alias to the list > before I publish the latest update ? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:35:06 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: A slight correction was List Members Ebay aliases Message-ID: <3B738EAA.82EC3153@dial.pipex.com> Tom Solinski wrote: > Dave thanks for the list but.... > > My email and ebay are > tskio4@home.com > dont know who > Tskipo4@home.com is > Please drop the "p" in the list Tom, Simple answer - my fingers are too big for the keyboard !! And I can't type !! Sorted now !! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:39:31 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: <3B738FB3.708F20@dial.pipex.com> Shane Weier wrote: > Michael says: > > > I doubt that Barry has a Revell Nieuport 17 for sale. I > > wouldn't say it's > > the most rare kit but it doesn't seem to appear as regularly > > as some other > > Even if it DID, Barry wouldn't have any - remember the Ace Nungbittner, > who'd swoop from the sun and nab any that Barry had before they had more > than a few flying hours > If you are prepared for a little more work, the ESCI/ERTL kit was released a couple of years ago, and at least here in the UK is fairly easily found. My local shop has a couple. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:54:27 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Corrected List Members Ebay aliases Message-ID: <3B739333.3396BD1D@dial.pipex.com> Any corrections/additions to me. I don't know if you think having this on the site would be a good idea, but if you do I could ask Allan. Alternatively, it could be posted on a regular (Monthly ?) basis Dave 327TOM Tom Plesha achound panz-meador@vsti.com (Phillip D. Anz-Meador) amadonRI Gerry McOsker ascolta Dale Sebring asilid Eric Fisher austineers Richard Eaton Bigeights Bob Horton Biggles Brad Gossen Bigmack5 Mack Harris bihfo Bob Laskodi braille_scale_modeler Paul A. Schwartzkopf Brent-o Brent Theobald cam27 Cameron Riley cduckworth Charles Duckworth cgavin Craig Gavin channard Mark Shanks davecww1 Dave Calhoun davef68 Dave Fleming davekim Dave Sterner fflt Jon V. Theisen fighter2 Shane Weier fokker David Watts furzball David Laws gatorjim Jim Hudson graham3 Graham Nash grainkitten Steve Cox hagerupk K. Hagerup ipms4450 Russ Niles jastab Lyle Lamboley JastaElf Sharon Henderson jberlien Jack Berlien kzelnick@tcainternet.com Kenneth Zelnick lejeune Fernando Lamas Longwall Courtney Allen Lothar John Glaser MACFARB MacFarb Macsporran Sandy Adam marcioac Marcio Antonio Campos mbittner Matt Bittner modeleral@up-link.net Al Superczynski modelhound Mike Franklin Moritz1 David Layton mrmiii Myles Miller Nieuport29 Mike Fletcher pease1 Allan Wright phoward@abilene.com P. Howard pugs99醫t.net John Impenna Redfokker Mike Dicianna roguerpj@black-hole.com Rob Johnson Sopwithdolphin Ray Boorman Stahltaube Diego Fernetti tskio4@home.com Thomas Solinski Viper32 Rob Woodbury Vulture2 Dave Zulis wind116 Warren Dickinson winks147 Kevin Wenker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:03:57 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: <3B708C18000AA3FD@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) PF Fullard !!!!! Bob ---------- >From: "Lee M." > Recommendations for Aces, I can research, are accepted and truly welcomed... > > > Lee M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:00:15 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: SPAD A2 Grates are woven... Message-ID: <20010810100015.15855.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com> Hi people! A new look on the grates that needs your interpretations. Maybe we can settle this and have the answer ready for Matt as a welcome back gift. Take a look at the photo top left on page 478 of the FMP book: to me it looks that the "grate" is on the outside but only because it is woven like the seats of old chairs or tennis raquettes or even like basketwork. I can clearly see there is a line of holes surrounding the aperture and in these holes are set what I interpret as "fibers" of some kind that are woven together to make the grate. What kind of fiber? Probably not twisted gut but at least here we use the split young shoots of some willows that are woven wet and allowed to dry. Wasn't it the way some British seats were made? Now, IF I'm right, to reproduce this in 1/72 will be a nice techniques discussion! I'll be away for a week (hope the yahoo 6Mb hold). Behave! Fernando ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:09:28 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=5BWWI=5D_RE:_OFF_LIST:_Ph=F6nix_D.I?= Message-ID: <009501c12184$8a8116c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Michael wrote: > Yes, I'm a flippin' moron! Shocking. I tought you were an englishman living in the colonies. D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:12:14 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: <009f01c12184$eda1fb20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Bonjour Lee! IIRC there was an article by Steve Perry in an old issue of Internet Modeler. I still remember the great pics of the cockpit. D. It's time for a REAL Nieuport Cook-up? ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee M. > I have been very remiss in gathering the info over time but I have not seen > very many comments on the larger models. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:23:24 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Marcio and Injected kits Message-ID: <00f901c12186$7ce066e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Marcio! > Among the planes I want to build one day in Brazilian markings are Spad VII --- Airfix, you already got one. Avro 504k--- Airfix (rare), or the newest Amodel (available and quite cheap) Breguet 14 ---- Pegasus (available) or the Wings 72 vac (rare) Nieuport 21 and 24bis - Revell (rare) /Esci (available) N17s+Roseplane conversion (?), Omega resins for the 21 and Joystick vac for the 24 Sopwith Strutter: Toko or Flashback (both available) and Snipe: Toko/Eastern Express (ditto) > For sure they will make a beautiful collection! Bien s鹯 mon ami! D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:32:37 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_=5BWWI=5D_RE:_=5BWWI=5D_RE:_OFF_LIST:_Ph=F6nix_D.I?= Message-ID: > > Michael wrote: > > Yes, I'm a flippin' moron! > > Shocking. > I tought you were an englishman living in the colonies. > D. > What's the difference? Gasterix ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:04:13 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: test - I'm back Message-ID: <3B73BFAD.A5903A93@bg.am.lodz.pl> Hi This morning I resubscribe after holidays but I can't see my mail. I got some mail from list but not mine. I sent "set wwi mail ack" to the listproc so I should get back each of my letters. Please let me know if you can see my post? TIA -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:14:55 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: test - I'm back Message-ID: <01cf01c1218d$af5875c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Witold! I can see it blurry.... wait, let me wipe the screen... OK now I read you clearly! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: [WWI] test - I'm back > Hi > This morning I resubscribe after holidays but I can't see my mail. I got some > mail from list but not mine. > I sent "set wwi mail ack" to the listproc so I should get back each of my > letters. > Please let me know if you can see my post? > TIA > -- > Witold Kozakiewicz > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3597 **********************