WWI Digest 3596 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Camel again by Ray Boorman 2) Marcio and Vacforms by Andreikor@aol.com 3) Re: Camel again by Ray Boorman 4) Re: Polite people and IPMS Campinas entries (was Food food food) by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 5) Odp: Re: Camel again by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 6) Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 7) Re: New Eduard Web Site by Todd Hayes 8) Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by "Tom Plesha" 9) What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? by "Hans Trauner" 10) Phönix D.I /was Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by "Michael Kendix" 11) Odp: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 12) Re: Odp: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co/again by "Tom Plesha" 13) Re: What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? by "Steven Perry" 14) Re: What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? by Steve Cox 15) Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by IRAtrumpet@aol.com 16) Hey Hey!: wasRe: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by "Steven Perry" 17) RE: Marcio and Vacforms by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 18) RE: Marcio and Injected kits by "Pedro Soares" 19) Re: Hey Hey!: wasRe: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by IRAtrumpet@aol.com 20) Odp: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 21) RE: Marcio and Injected kits by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 22) good book for exchange by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 23) A slight correction was List Members Ebay aliases by "Tom Solinski" 24) =?iso-8859-2?Q?Odp:_=5BWWI=5D_Ph=F6nix_D.I_/was_Aviatik_Berg_D.I_and_Co?= by "Grzegorz Mazurowski" 25) Re: Hey Hey!: wasRe: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by KarrArt@aol.com 26) RE: Revell Nie. 17 by Shane Weier 27) Rhinebeck in September by "Lyle Lamboley" 28) Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by Shane Weier 29) Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co by Ivan Subrt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:06:43 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: Re: Camel again Message-ID: <20010809171025.TVMA887.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Grzegorz The Revell and Airfix wings are a tad over size in chord less than a milimeter in 1/72 the Revell wings appear to be to large in span by a milimeter or two. There are slight shape problems with both the Airfix and Revell wings. But this is not really a big problem especially with the Revell wings as they are large enough to fix. The Tailplane on the airfix model is a closer than the Revell to the shape in the plans I have for an F1 Camel. However the Airfix model purports to be a ships Camel. The Fuselage is, the wings are not. The Ships camel had a smaller wingspan - 26 ft 11 inches compared to 28 ft for the F1. The chord for both types is 4.6 inches both upper and lower wings. F1 Camel Dimensions Lenght 18 ft 6 - 9 depending on engine fitted. Wingspan upper and lower 28ft Chord 4ft 6 inches upper and lower Stagger 1ft 6 inches Gap 5ft Dihedral upper 0 degrees lower 5 degrees Source Datafiles 6 and 26 and Sopwith Aircraft by Mick Davis. The chord on a Dolphin is the same as a Camel as you said, the wing span and gap is not though. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:17:34 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Marcio and Vacforms Message-ID: <127.2ba517c.28a41fae@aol.com> Marcio wrote: << Ha! For sure! I could start with a Caudron G-4 (picture here:http://www.aviacao.militar.nom.br/ExercitoCaudronG4.htm) >> Well, at least there'd be fewer seams to fill! :) Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:18:32 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: , Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Camel again Message-ID: <20010809171857.LWAX5587.priv-edtnes27-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> The Comic name was first used on home-defence night fighter 1 1/2 strutters. Supposedly because they looked funny with the pilot at the back and the twin lewis over the wings. I believe 74 Squadron first used these. Of course the authorities didn't use the term Comic for either Camel or Strutter. Oh and the Lewis guns over the upper wing. There were two reasons for this. One the Vickers created enough flash as to ruin the pilots night vision. The other is that special "RTS" ammunition with both incendiary and explosive properties was to be used. This would have had disastrous results if it hit a propeller. Since it wouldn't just knock a chunk out but would more likely blow the prop off at the very least. On Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:00:22 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: >Grzegorz wrote: >> I want to make early Comic (what means 'comic'?) > >IIRC "comic" means strange or unusual (as "funny") because that >Camel didn' >thad a hump in front of the pilot. Wouldn't that take all the "camel- >iness" >out of the airplane? Anyway they sticked with the Camel nickname... >D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:29:31 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Re: Polite people and IPMS Campinas entries (was Food food food) Message-ID: <000801c120f8$d9c61460$4d1ba8c0@office.br.starmedia.com> > > Let's hope to have many OT entries, which means more people > to join us > > (although I believe we will have some Tiger Moths, a few > other ot biplanes > > and not so many OT planes - I say this after looking at the > shelves of local > > hobby shops). > > > Hopefully your models will make others see the light. ;-) > Jan Hi, Jan and list folks! What I see here is that Tiger Moths are easy to find. Among all OT planes, the easiest ones to find (which doesn't mean you see them everywhere) are the Revell Spad XIII and Heller Roland C.II, both 1/72. Last weekend I was talking to the owner of Model World, not the biggest but perhaps the best hobby shop in Sao Paulo. He said that almost no one buys OT aircraft there (and I guess it's true. I always see exactly the same models in the shelves when I go there). With best regards from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:40:49 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: Re: Camel again Message-ID: <06bc01c120fa$6e8669a0$0200a8c0@x.pl> OK, thanks. Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:47:16 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <06c701c120fb$556d6f80$0200a8c0@x.pl> Another question about another plane: Does someone have plans of Aviatik D.I without car-like radiator? Or color schemes? Or some informations about it? I've got surplus Aviatik Toko model, after using its Linke-Crawford's 'L' decals on Mac Phonix D.I, and I want to add little different brother to my Linke's Aviatik with car-like radiator. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Eduard Web Site Message-ID: <20010809175923.82217.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Gabe, I've been expecting the order for the last week. We've seemed to hit a post office with a bad case of the slows. Today I hope. At least now I have a tracking number. Todd --- Limon3 wrote: > Hi Todd, > Have you gotten the *goods* from VAMP yet? I hadn't > heard anything from > you, and I was just curious, > Regards, > Gabe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Todd Hayes > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 6:05 PM > Subject: [WWI] New Eduard Web Site > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I checked Eduard's web site today and the new one > is > > up at the same address. They did a beautiful job. > > Encouragingly the art on the 'news' page shows a > SE5a. > > Eduard is providing us with an excellent > opportunity. > > There's a discussion/suggestions page under > > 'community' but I think you have to register first > to > > access it. Already three customers have utilized > it > > and I recognize at least two of these as fellow > list > > members. Here's a chance to let Eduard know just > > which a/c you want to see in kit form. The > overall > > site is very user friendly. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute > with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:26:02 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <000701c12100$beb60100$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Grzegorz- I found Drawings and photos for the ones with the wing radiator and also showing a scrap view of the side mounted radiators They are both in A-H Army Aircraft pp181-185 If this is what you are looking for I will see if I have any info on the schemes. Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:44 PM Subject: [WWI] Aviatik Berg D.I and Co > Another question about another plane: > Does someone have plans of Aviatik D.I without car-like radiator? > Or color schemes? > Or some informations about it? > I've got surplus Aviatik Toko model, after using its Linke-Crawford's 'L' > decals on Mac Phonix D.I, and I want to add little different brother to my > Linke's Aviatik with car-like radiator. > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:25:59 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? Message-ID: <00e001c12100$bcf9f920$f8ad72d4@FRITZweb> Ladies and Gentlemen, I have got a copy of a new book on Jasta 32 'Aus der Chronik der Jagdstaffel 32'. It contains a lot of pics formerly unknown to me, especially of Roland D II and D VI fighters. Good reading, also, but everything in German, I regret. Deutsche Luftkriegsgeschichte 1914-18 - Aus der Chtonik der Jagdstaffel 32 Autor: Jörg Mückler, Verlag: VDM, ISBN 3-925480-50-1 Artikelnummer: 00127 http://s25825740.shoplite.de/sess/utn153b72cf8d86db5/shopdata/0010_Verlagsti tel/0010_Verlagsb=FCcher/produktansicht.php3?artikel=0280_Deutsche%2BLuftkri egsgeschichte%2B1914-18%2B-%2BAus%2Bder%2BChtonik%2Bder%2BJagdstaffel%2B32%2 B=2800127=29 I give this lengthy url, as I suspect some listees are not too happy with german homepages. Use cut & paste, please. For those who can handle german url's, take www.vdmedien.de. But now to my question: What is a Paul Schmitt 7B2 ??? Jasta 32 claims several of them, but I have never seen this type before. It is described a french two-seater. I know that german claims are often made with doubtful type describtions, take a look to the high numbers of 'Vickers' which where D.H.2, in fact. But a Paul Schmitt? Thanks for any help. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 18:48:42 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Phönix D.I /was Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: >From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" >I've got surplus Aviatik Toko model, after using its Linke->Crawford's 'L' >decals on Mac Phonix D.I, Grzegorz: I most interested in your experince building the Phönix D.I. I am building it now and wonder if you have anything I should look out for, problems etc.? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:31:08 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <06e501c12109$d76928e0$0200a8c0@x.pl> That's it!!!!!! But this book isn't available in Poland. Could you make scan for me? Or xerocopy, and send by snail-mail? I'd be gratefull, and can find something for you, if only I can. Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:37:05 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Odp: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co/again Message-ID: <000b01c1210a$ac1c2600$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Grzegorz- If you send your address etc. I'll make xerox of the pages and mail them to you. Also, I'll look in some of my books and see if there is any info on the schemes, etc. to send with them. You can send your address on-list or off-list, your choice. Later Tom S.E.MI. SNIP Grzegorz Mazurowski says: > That's it!!!!!! > But this book isn't available in Poland. > Could you make scan for me? Or xerocopy, and send by snail-mail? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:57:38 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? Message-ID: <001901c1210d$99203200$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > What is a Paul Schmitt 7B2 ??? Jasta 32 claims several of them, but I have > never seen this type before. It is described a french two-seater. I know > that german claims are often made with doubtful type describtions, take a > look to the high numbers of 'Vickers' which where D.H.2, in fact. But a Paul > Schmitt? Envision the offspring of a Jenny and a Biff who had his way with her. Has a 3 bay Spad like wing celule. Overgrown Nieuport aileron cranks. The rear fuselage and empennage is like an MoS Type L. Big ole exhatst pipe angled back and up over the top wing. FMP French Aircraft book P. 454 - 456. No drawings, but several photos. Think: "Do I really want to rig 3 Spads in a row? ;-) LMK if you need something more specific from the text. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 20:57:26 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? Message-ID: My little book of Fench aircraft shows a big single-engined bomber. Span 17.5m, length 9.5m, 250hp renault engine. It was ordered on in 1915, but didn't get into service until April 1917, already obselete. It had a three bay wing structure, with three extra pairs of thin metal struts, rather like the SPADs, very odd to look at. Also had a huge exhaust pipe which ran at 45° from the front of the nose back over the top wing. hth Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Hans Trauner" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:45:49 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] What is a 'Paul Schmitt 7B2' ???? > > > What is a Paul Schmitt 7B2 ??? Jasta 32 claims several of them, but I have > never seen this type before. It is described a french two-seater. I know > that german claims are often made with doubtful type describtions, take a > look to the high numbers of 'Vickers' which where D.H.2, in fact. But a Paul > Schmitt? > > Thanks for any help. > > Hans > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:19:38 EDT From: IRAtrumpet@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <28.196f8809.28a44a5a@aol.com> In a message dated 8/9/01 12:43:26 PM Central Daylight Time, grzem@yahoo.com writes: << Does someone have plans of Aviatik D.I without car-like radiator? Or color schemes? >> Hi Grzegorz! Have you access to the Windsock Datafile on the Aviatik D.I? It contains drawings in 1/72 and 1/48 of the major variants, as well as color schemes, etc. The Berg D.I is one of my favorite WWI a/c. I would be happy to help with scans, copies, etc. Kindly let me know . . . Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:28:26 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Hey Hey!: wasRe: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <002b01c12111$d90c30e0$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Hey Ira Long time no post. We've all been having fun as per your instructions. What you been up to? sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:30:33 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: Marcio and Vacforms Message-ID: <001c01c12112$2569c060$4d1ba8c0@office.br.starmedia.com> > Marcio wrote: > << Ha! For sure! I could start with a Caudron G-4 (picture > here:http://www.aviacao.militar.nom.br/ExercitoCaudronG4.htm) >> > > Well, at least there'd be fewer seams to fill! :) > Cheers, > Andrei Andrei, Unfortunately I took a look at all online hobby shops I know and found no Caudron G-4 vacforms, only G-3. And a Farman 40bis, but not a 41 :-( And don't tell me I can scratchbuild them! :-)))))))))) Best regards from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:48:49 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: RE: Marcio and Injected kits Message-ID: <000501c12113$25597740$4c090dd5@pc1> Marcio, First of all Parabens. Nice DVII. Now that you've done 2 you'll be hooked forever. That's what happened to me.... Second, the same like Diego said happend around here. Plenty of Caudrons, Spads, Nieuports and Avros came to Portugal most as war reparation IIRC. Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 6:10 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Marcio and Injected kits > Marcio! > > (I'm discovering that we used many many OT > > planes after the war...) > > Same goes here... not to be surprised as the war have left a great surplus > of perfectly good airplanes and tanks and ships and submarines and cannons > and tin hats and.... etc etc etc that were readily available for every > country who wasn't tired of war in 1919. > French, italians and british missions toured all the countries in South > America selling these remnants and in many cases almost giving them all for > free (or paying for all the goods that were sent 'over there' during the > war). Besides, south american armies were eager to get their little dirty > paws over those magnificent weapons that were forbidden for them for 5 long > years of fighting in Europe. > D. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:41:14 EDT From: IRAtrumpet@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hey Hey!: wasRe: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <40.f750567.28a44f6a@aol.com> Hey Steve! (and all Listies, "new" and "familiar") THANKS! Long time indeed! Too much work, marital turmoil, divorce negotiations, and (now) a possible reconciliation, and (whew!) not much time for things miniature or Lists discussing same. I have a studio now, about 1,000 sq ft, to "escape" to. That is my music room and model "factory", as it were. I hope to have photos of new projects for perusal very soon. Good to be back! I miss you folks as well as the smell of glue, paint, and solvents. Ooh YEAH! Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:11:39 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: Odp: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <071001c12117$e312a960$0200a8c0@x.pl> Hi Ira! I've got some info about typical D.I and Lohner 115 series, mostly about ones used in Flik 60/j, from T. Goworek's book about WWI fighters (very good book, but rather laconic), and from article in Polish 'Militaria' magazine about Flik 60/j. And it is all. I don't understand differences between D.I series (engine, or something more?), and also I've heard about D.II and D.III planes, which are total mystery for me. As I've written, I have Toko 115.32 D.I model almost built, and second, which I want to convert AmuchAP. I've seen color profile by Bob Pearson of wing-radiator D.I, and I decided to make it, but if you have plans of another D.I like versions, and you think it is more interesting, maybe I can change my decision. Windsock Datafiles aren't available in Poland, exept online shopping, and are very expensive for me. (typical Polish book is 5-8$). If you can make some scans for me, I'll be very happy. I'm interested especially in 1/72 plans and some importand detail photos, an also, of course, color scheme. Thanks in advance. If you are interested, there is available in Warsaw very interesting book by prof. Tomasz Goworek 'Pierwsze samoloty mysliwskie lotnictwa polskiego' (First fighters of Polish Airforces), which is good and detailed monography of Albatros D.III Oeffag, Fokker D.VII, Spad V-XIII and Ansaldo A.I Balilla. It is now old (edited 1991), but still available and cheap, in hard cover, 130 pages all in Polish, but with many drawings, photographs and color schemes. Bookshop price is less than 3$ ! Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:17:36 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: Marcio and Injected kits Message-ID: <002201c12118$b75642e0$4d1ba8c0@office.br.starmedia.com> > Marcio, > > First of all Parabens. Nice DVII. Now that you've done 2 > you'll be hooked > forever. That's what happened to me.... > Second, the same like Diego said happend around here. Plenty > of Caudrons, > Spads, Nieuports and Avros came to Portugal most as war > reparation IIRC. > > Pedro Hi, Pedro! Among the planes I want to build one day in Brazilian markings are Spad VII, Avro 504k, Breguet 14, Nieuport 21 and 24bis, Sopwith Strutter and Snipe. For sure they will make a beautiful collection! Um abraço Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:26:18 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: "wwi lista" Subject: good book for exchange Message-ID: <074301c12119$ee190280$0200a8c0@x.pl> There is available in Warsaw aviation bookshop very interesting book by serious Polish historian prof. Tomasz Goworek 'Pierwsze samoloty mysliwskie lotnictwa polskiego'(First fighters of Polish Airforces), which is good and detailed monography of Albatros D.III Oeffag, Fokker D.VII, Spad V-XIII and Ansaldo A.I Balilla, all in one. It is now little old (edited 1991), but still available, in hard cover, 130 pages all in Polish, but with many drawings, photographs and color schemes. I expect that supply is limited, but some 5-10 still are available. If someone is interested, I can exchange it for something interesting. Also, if someone is interested, I can send details of that book. Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:34:16 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: A slight correction was List Members Ebay aliases Message-ID: <00c801c1211b$0abbd4c0$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> Dave thanks for the list but.... My email and ebay are tskio4@home.com dont know who Tskipo4@home.com is Please drop the "p" in the list Thanks Tom ----- Original Message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:52:31 +0200 From: "Grzegorz Mazurowski" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Odp:_=5BWWI=5D_Ph=F6nix_D.I_/was_Aviatik_Berg_D.I_and_Co?= Message-ID: <075901c1211d$9b9cd780$0200a8c0@x.pl> Really, I've only begun with it. Model is good at first look, and fits also good. Be careful of tailplane placing in fuselage: doesn't fit well, but it is easy to make it good by sanding gap in fuselage, after glueing halves. Engine needs detailing, but I haven't done it yet. Seat is to heavy for me, I made it lighter wit Dremel-like tool. PE stick is flat, I've made new from copper wire. Also, I've cut prop's axle from fuselage half, to fit halves better. Then drilled hole in front fuselage and made new axle from plastic rod. What painting scheme you chose? Sorry for beeng chaotic, but it is late... Good luck!!! Grzegorz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:14:12 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Hey Hey!: wasRe: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <26.1984cb07.28a46534@aol.com> In a message dated 8/9/01 1:44:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, IRAtrumpet@aol.com writes: << Good to be back! I miss you folks as well as the smell of glue, paint, and solvents. Ooh YEAH! Have Fun!! IRA >> Hey Dicta Man- welcome back! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:23:26 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Revell Nie. 17 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3DF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael says: > I doubt that Barry has a Revell Nieuport 17 for sale. I > wouldn't say it's > the most rare kit but it doesn't seem to appear as regularly > as some other Even if it DID, Barry wouldn't have any - remember the Ace Nungbittner, who'd swoop from the sun and nab any that Barry had before they had more than a few flying hours Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:22:04 -0400 From: "Lyle Lamboley" To: Subject: Rhinebeck in September Message-ID: <002501c12121$ba6fa1c0$9bf9aec7@lylelamb> Hi guys, Just wondering if anyone was planning on attending the Rhinebeck Jamboree in a few weeks.... Lyle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:38:27 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3E0@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> YIKES !!!! > Have Fun!! > > IRA > Hear Ye !! Hear Ye !! Listees old and new, I give you IRA, originator of the list motto, the so called Dicta Ira - "Have Fun" Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:04:02 +0200 From: Ivan Subrt To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co Message-ID: <01C12138.5F67AE00@plzena-219.dialup.vol.cz> Ira, long time no see (was it 1998 or 1999?). Is the Ferko collection on line now? Cheers! Ivan Subrt http://www.czechia.com/silverbird "The air is our sea." Czech proverb ---------- Od: IRAtrumpet@aol.com[SMTP:IRAtrumpet@aol.com] Odesláno: 9. srpna 2001 22:22 Komu: Multiple recipients of list Pøedmìt: [WWI] Re: Aviatik Berg D.I and Co In a message dated 8/9/01 12:43:26 PM Central Daylight Time, grzem@yahoo.com writes: << Does someone have plans of Aviatik D.I without car-like radiator? Or color schemes? >> Hi Grzegorz! Have you access to the Windsock Datafile on the Aviatik D.I? It contains drawings in 1/72 and 1/48 of the major variants, as well as color schemes, etc. The Berg D.I is one of my favorite WWI a/c. I would be happy to help with scans, copies, etc. Kindly let me know . . . Have Fun!! IRA ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3596 **********************