WWI Digest 3581 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Re:_20Re:_[WWI]_Mus=E9e_de_l'Air?= by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 2) $548.78 by EPMyles@aol.com 3) $548.78 - clarification by EPMyles@aol.com 4) Re: first model by Mark Miller 5) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=2020Re:=20Re:=2020Re:=20[WWI]=20Mus=E9e?= by KarrArt@aol.com 6) Re: More AEG recon photos by "cameron rile" 7) Re: first model by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: More AEG recon photos by "Steven Perry" 9) Re: first model by "Rick Milas" 10) Re: New OT SIM - Just coming back from dogfight - by "Lee M." 11) Re: first model by Mark Miller 12) Re: first model by CoolSpadLuke@aol.com 13) Dutch DVII interior linen colour by "cameron rile" 14) Re: [WWI] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mus=E9e?= de l'Air by Karen Rychlewski 15) RE: Cool people? by Karen Rychlewski 16) RE: Dutch DVII interior linen colour by Shane Weier 17) eBay alert !!!!! by Charles Hart 18) RE: Getting to the Musee de L'Air.... by "Nigel Rayner" 19) RE: First Models by "Nigel Rayner" 20) RE: Dutch DVII interior linen colour by "Gaston Graf" 21) A few notes about the Pegasus Halberstadt D.II by "Carol & David Solosy" 22) Re: A few notes about the Pegasus Halberstadt D.II by "Steven Perry" 23) Re: first model by "Steven Perry" 24) Aurevoir! by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 25) Back by "Matt Bittner" 26) Looking for Eduard Sopwith Pup by pugs99@att.net 27) RE: Yellowing decals by "Hans Trauner" 28) RE: Yellowing decals by "Steven Perry" 29) RE: Dutch DVII interior linen colour by "Hans Trauner" 30) RE: Dutch DVII interior linen colour by "Hans Trauner" 31) RE: Yellowing decals by Ray Boorman 32) Ebay Alias's and wwimodeler by Ray Boorman 33) RE: Yellowing decals by "Hans Trauner" 34) RE: Yellowing decals by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 17:44:25 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Re:_20Re:_[WWI]_Mus=E9e_de_l'Air?= Message-ID: I wouldn't want to unduly influence your review of the book, Robert, but the author(s) were clearly diligent in their research efforts. :-) Mike Kavanaugh In a message dated Sat, 4 Aug 2001 5:30:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KarrArt@aol.com writes: > > Right now I've got a review copy of the big Schiffer Lafayette Flying Corp > book...hardback, about 500 pages- I have to write a review of this monster > for AAHS (due Tuesday....I thought homework ended with one's school days) > Anyway- Here's a locale of historic "interest"........... > (quoted directly from the book) > ".......the bordellos of Paris. The Lafayette Escadrille pilots exclusively > frequented "The Lafayette Whorehouse" at 22 Rue Rrey, near the Arch de > Triumph, having chosen it because it was licensed, clean and had "nice young > girls" " > > If there's a building still there, might be worth a snapshot! > RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:11:20 EDT From: EPMyles@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: $548.78 Message-ID: <77.18913291.289dcd08@aol.com> That's the winning bid for 5 Blue Max kits on ebay: Nieuport N.11 Pfalz DIIIa Junkers D1/J9 Fokker Dr.1 Spad VII yep, that's not a typo - $548.78 Cheers, Myles [suddenly feeling much poorer - or richer - not sure at the moment :) ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:13:35 EDT From: EPMyles@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: $548.78 - clarification Message-ID: <42.18913911.289dcd8f@aol.com> My ending statement could be interpreted that I was the winning bidder - That's not the case - I'm still reasonably sane this afternoon :) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Aug 2001 15:51:25 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: first model Message-ID: <20010804225125.12424.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Hans asks: Anyway, what where *your*very first OT kits, listees? Tell type,manufacturer and age when you did it! > My first OT kit was the 1/72 scale Revel, the one that came with three kits in one box, I'm sure it had the Morain Saulner, and I think the Eindecker, can't remember the third I then hung them from my bedroom ceilling over my bed. The wing fell off the Spad so I tried to hang it like it just fell off ( so much for historical accuracy :-)) I made the ot 3-packs as well - but they got hung up in a less prime spot. I think those old three pack kits are rare and somewhat valuable these days I believe I was about 8 yrs old Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:52:51 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=2020Re:=20Re:=2020Re:=20[WWI]=20Mus=E9e?= Message-ID: <8b.a55a208.289dd6c3@aol.com> In a message dated 8/4/01 2:47:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CoolSpadLuke@aol.com writes: << I wouldn't want to unduly influence your review of the book, Robert, but the author(s) were clearly diligent in their research efforts. :-) Mike Kavanaugh >> When I read this section my first reaction was "Jeez- now THAT'S research!" For any Listees who are members of AAHS, I won't spoil things, but I will say if your interest in the Lafayette Escadrille/Flying Corp is intense, then so should your efforts be to grab a copy of this book....not much really for modelers because the pics are mostly of the people, but there is enough in this thing to hold the interest page after page. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:54:32 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: More AEG recon photos Message-ID: <230CFE8982985D115A160005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> Steve, >I've added two more photos to the latest batch of AEG recon >photos. These show the results of the action described in the >most recent dispatch. They AEG is looking good. When you do the interior structure against the shells like you have there, how do you go about measuring/making the ribs that cross from fuselage half to fuselage half? Especially in a large kit like that? cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:03:41 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: first model Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/01 3:54:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, albatros1212@altavista.com writes: << Anyway, what where *your*very first OT kits, listees? Tell type,manufacturer and age when you did it! >> Aurora D.VII....about 5 years old.....must have been about 1957. My mom came home from the grocery store with one. I glued it together with some kind of household cement- found out water colors wouldn't stick. I had no idea what I was building- it was just fun. The first REAL model, done with any awareness of the subject matter was probably around '62- an Aurora Albatros. By '63 I thought I was an expert in WW I avaition! RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:30:27 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: More AEG recon photos Message-ID: <00d801c11d3d$8027ff40$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > Steve, > They AEG is looking good. When you do the interior structure against > the shells like you have there, how do you go about measuring/making > the ribs that cross from fuselage half to fuselage half? Especially > in a large kit like that? > cam Cam: Thanks. Basically I cut long and trim to fit, replacing any I over trim. Lots of fitting together and taking apart. No matter how accurately you measure and how much time and agrevation you put yourself through, you are still most likely going to cut long or short. I just find it easier to cut long, then sneak up on it with succesive nibbles. The AEG is a bear in this respect because the extra strip added to give it the correct width is all on one half. This makes the shells asymetric. Like a dummy I picked the wrong side to be the deep one. The stbd side has the crawl through tunnels and the port side has all the bulkheads to the sidewall. I got the stbd side as the one I'll attach the cockpit detail to. Nobody ever accused me of being the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I'll muddle/model through it while my subconscious dreams up a way to bollix the struts. sp sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 18:39:24 -0500 From: "Rick Milas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: first model Message-ID: My very first wwi kit was the Revell Fokker D VII. It was the one that came molded in white for Hermann Goering. I believe I was in 7th grade which would have made it about 1967. I won the kit at a birthday party. The other kit given away as a prize was a Revell SE5. I had never heard of the Fokker D VII until I won that kit. Building it led me to learn about that great aircraft. After building the kit I was hooked on wwi aviation, especially German aircraft. My next kit was the Revell Albatros molded in red for MvR. I'm glad the question was asked about our first OT builds. Thinking about those first kits brings back many good memories. Rick Milas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:02:49 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New OT SIM - Just coming back from dogfight - Message-ID: <3B6B49B9.517FB205@x25.net> CFS2 is Combat Flight Simulator 2 (from Microsoft) and it is the one with the Corsair on the front CFS1 is the early one with the Mustang. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX Tom Solinski wrote: > Hans, what is CFS2? > > > The long promised att-on for the CFS2 is available now and I have just got > > my pre-ordered example. > > > > Installation worked fine, everything is o.k. Campains and single sorties, > > training sorties, all works. > > > > Thanks Tom S ------------------------------ Date: 4 Aug 2001 18:26:41 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: first model Message-ID: <20010805012641.13021.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Sat, 04 August 2001, "Gaston Graf" wrote: > I remember the most exciting moment always was to bring the kit home and open the box. And so it is still today!> There is something seductive about an unmade kit. All the parts neatly aranged on the frets, it's almost a shame to cut it apart and make the thing. My very first kit was a helicopter, The heavy lift one with rotors front and back. I guess I shouldn't say it was my kit, I "helped" my cousin make it - I was only about 5 yrs old. Interesting thing is that what sticks in my mind after all these years is the unmade kit and not the finished model. Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 21:59:58 EDT From: CoolSpadLuke@aol.com To: Subject: Re: first model Message-ID: <75.189f678c.289e029e@aol.com> In a message dated Sat, 4 Aug 2001 9:28:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mark Miller writes: > There is something seductive about an unmade kit. > All the parts neatly aranged on the frets, it's almost a shame to cut it apart and make the thing. Too true, Mark. It poses the potential in your mind's eye to be the greatest thing you have ever done. Then your fumbling fingers and intermittently focused brain bring the potential dwindling down to the realities of your ability. I think this is the main reason I have started so many kits and finished so few. Rather than struggle through as the dream fades, it's so easy to open up a new kit and a new dream. I am trying to get better about muddling through. I have arbitrarily adopted Steve Perry as my mentor. I don't think anyone on the list is as good at turning a "sow's ear" into a "silk purse". BTW Steve, I've been following your AEG postings closely and saving your photos for future reference. Keep up the fight! FWIW, Mike Kavanaugh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 23:19:39 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Dutch DVII interior linen colour Message-ID: <2233DA665F885D115AA60005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> Is anyone aware of the colour the Dutch DVII's had for their interior linen inside the cockpit? cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 23:31:32 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: [WWI] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mus=E9e?= de l'Air Message-ID: <3B6CBE13.3007103F@earthlink.net> Len Smith wrote: > >snipped directions to Musée de l'Air< > One point with the Musée, flash > photography is allowed (except in the Balloon Hall) but no tripods. Also > the Musée doesn't (or didn't) sell films, so you need to bring in > suffficient. Enjoy your day. Take camera batteries, too. After trekking all the way out there, the batteries died after 3 or 4 snaps; had to walk back towards the city looking for a battery store--and me with no French. BTW, can anyone provide directions to the Lafayette Escadrille Memorial? Next time I'm in Paris I'd like to see it--last time, I couldn't find a single Frenchman who even knew where it was, much less how to get there. And for the repeat visitor to Paris, a neat way to spend an afternoon is at the National Technical Museum at the Conservatoire National des Arts et Métiers which conveniently has a Métro station named after it. This is one of those seldom-visited gems of a museum that's stuffed with all kinds of bizarre old machines. The entrance and ground floor hall is in a 12th century Gothic former church; this hall has old cars, motorcycles, other wheeled vehicles, and hanging from the vaults is (...appropriate drum roll) the original Blériot XI that flew the English Channel. If you read "Foucault's Pendumum" by Umberto Eco, the whole book takes place in this museum: creaky wooden floors, dusty glass cases full of incomprehensible neat things--kind of a spooky place, actually. Lots of models of trains, farm tractors, mills; astrolabes, clocks, automata; Daguerre's camera and Lumière's magic lantern, Marie-Antoinette's clockwork dulcimer-playing puppet and, of course, Foucault's pendulum. Dame Karen (who, when she *does* get out, does it with style) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 23:33:57 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Cool people? Message-ID: <3B6CBEA5.ABF8618E@earthlink.net> Ho, Gaston, been there, done that, now stay home... Dame Karen Gaston Graf wrote: > > Karen wrote: > > <<< I don't get out > > much, but I'm convinced this list has a monopoly on really cool > > people. >>> > > > > You poor dear! My suggestion is to try, TRY to get out more often :) > > Cheers, > > Andrei :) > > Why going out? She will run only into some stupid show offs and other bums > who will be trying to wrap her into some stupid stories because they have > nothing else in mind than being after her cute 6 o'clock position... And > after one "layed her down on the lawn" - to speak with MvRs words - she'll > be chalked up as just another victory on his killboard. > > Better stay with us, Karen ;o). Here you're safe! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:33:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Dutch DVII interior linen colour Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3A4@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Cam, > Is anyone aware of the colour the Dutch DVII's had for their interior > linen inside the cockpit? patchy linen colour ? (what logic there is, is that it represents a recovered aircraft using plain fabric, doped with shrinking dope then painted outside with Dutch D.VII colour) <\uninformed guess 1> or reversed lozenge? (assuming the aircraft is one of the few captured, or was flown to Holland immediately post war in loz and merely overpainted with Dutch D.VII colour) <\uninformed guess 2> HTH - or at least gives a couple of lines to investigate Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 22:41:20 -0600 From: Charles Hart To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: eBay alert !!!!! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010804224120.00a1ec20@spot.colorado.edu> Greetings All, I'll de-lurk for a moment to offer this Ebay Alert !! A few weeks back someone on thsi list was complaining that there were no Revell Sopwith Triplane kits to be had. Here is the second one I've found in 10 days or so, and I'm not even looking for any of these. Come on you all, use the Ebay search engine, inefficient though it may be. Happy bidding ! This Auction ends Wednesday 8 August. Good Luck Charles Hart http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1622914562 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:57:20 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Getting to the Musee de L'Air.... Message-ID: <000001c11d8c$a30dc4a0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Len wrote (in response to Cyg's question): > Easiest place in the world to get to, one train, one bus and you > are there. And then gave some excellent instructions on using public transport to get there. Cyg, I found an easier way. Being a lazy capitalist, I got a cab from Charles de Gaulle airport to the Musee. It's quick and easy, no risk of getting lost and if your French isn't good, battling with public transport can sometimes be an issue. The cab (IIRC) costs around 100 FFr (about $15 or so), it takes about 10-15 minutes. There's a cab rank outside the Musee which always has cabs on it. So you can get back to the airport or continue on into Paris. Only downside (apart from the cost) is that you have to use Francs - Paris cabs do not take credit cards (well, one or two do but they're very rare). But whichever way you get there, you HAVE to get there. Probably the best OT resource in the world...... (as they say in the beer ads). Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:57:23 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: First Models Message-ID: <000101c11d8c$a432bca0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Like most, my modelling started when I was around 5 or 6 with Aifix and Revell kits. My older brother made a few kits so got me hooked but I was crazy about aircraft and built at least a model a week. Mostly WWII but I built the Revell and Airfix WWI kits. I particularly remember the Airfix RE8 which my brother helped me rig by looping cotton around the struts. I also remember my brother getting one of the Renwal Aeroskin kits (Spad IIRC) which I thought was weird. But again like most, the modelling stopped around 13-14 when I drifted more to wargaming, figure modelling and later grown-up stuff (like music, jobs, marriage, divorce, more marriage, a kid etc). It was Red Baron 2 (the computer game) and the chance finding of the list on the web that got me hooked back on OT. Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:53:54 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Dutch DVII interior linen colour Message-ID: Uhmmm........... isn't the D.VII on display at the German Museum in Munich a Dutch machine? If so, I have pictures of it. Some are available at my website (AIRCRAFT section) but I have more. One shows a cutaway at the fuselage just before the tailplane, where the wires inside are visible, and off course the linen is. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Is anyone aware of the colour the Dutch DVII's had for their interior > > linen inside the cockpit? > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:41:29 +0800 From: "Carol & David Solosy" To: "WW1 List" Subject: A few notes about the Pegasus Halberstadt D.II Message-ID: Hi List people I have just received the above 1/72 model. Here are few quick observations from the box. The scheme offered is for D.818/16. There are four photos of this machine in the Datafile Halberstadt Fighters Special. This publication also has a left side profile of the same aircraft inside the front cover. The kit itself is injection molded in light grey. The wings: Well, there are the accustomed Pegasus intrusive sprue gates. But nothing a bit of diligent sanding won't fix. Both wings conform nicely with Ian Stair's plans. They appear to have the correct dihedral and acceptably thin (and consistently so) trailing edges. The surface detail is subtle and complete - no disappearing ribs or 'ropey' radiator. There is also some flash as we have come to expect from limited run injection kits. The tailplane: Again, nicely thin and in accord with Stair's plans. Fuselage: The cockpit is about 1mm further forward than shown on Stair's plans, but to the naked eye it looks properly placed. So who cares? The turtle deck is well done. The stringers (is that the right term?) are clear and straight. The stitching just aft of the cockpit is represented by a raised line and isn't all that convincing IMO. Also missing are the panel lines on the port side upper decking between the rear of the engine and the gun. Again, this can be fairly simply remedied. Width looks spot on. The white metal parts consist of a two part exhaust system and an engine that will require perhaps a little redefinition for the fussier modeller. There's also a Spandau, a nice prop and a reasonable seat. The wheels are well done and the u/c legs look OK. All struts and the axle will have to be scratched from the strut stock and rod provided. All-in-all this is one of Mr Gannon's most acurate braille scale efforts. How it goes together will be, I predict, as one should expect from a limited run injection kit: there may well be some fit hassles and some filler required here and there. I for one am most pleased to see this kit in this scale again, at last. Once more Chris Gannon has attempted to fulfil the desires of his consumers. I have the Skybirds 86 and the Merlin kits of this same aircraft. The latter is decidedly average and the former quite good, but somewhat overly comlicated for a 1/72 kit. David S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 06:56:41 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: A few notes about the Pegasus Halberstadt D.II Message-ID: <002501c11d9d$4f2e7440$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > Hi List people > > I have just received the above 1/72 model. > Here are few quick observations from the box. >Once more Chris Gannon has attempted to fulfil the desires of his consumers. > David S David: Thanks for the nice review. One question though. How is the tailskid handled? TIA sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 07:21:13 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: first model Message-ID: <002b01c11da0$bca09d20$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Mike writes: > Too true, Mark. It poses the potential in your mind's eye to be the greatest thing you have ever done. Then your fumbling fingers and intermittently focused brain bring the potential dwindling down to the realities of your ability. I think this is the main reason I have started so many kits and finished so few. Rather than struggle through as the dream fades, it's so easy to open up a new kit and a new dream. Mike, you hit that right square on the head. > I am trying to get better about muddling through. I have arbitrarily adopted Steve Perry as my mentor. I don't think anyone on the list is as good at turning a "sow's ear" into a "silk purse". Gee guy, you sure know how to make an grumpy old fart blush. Thanks for the compliment. Today is my birthday (49) and that sure makes a nicer present than any styrene I probably won't be getting. I think my ability to work with lousy kits stems mostly from a propensity to bite off more than I can chew and then being to stuborn to quit gnawing, rather than any real talent. BTW Steve, I've been following your AEG postings closely and saving your photos for future reference. Keep up the fight! Glad you're enjoying them, I'm having fun writing them. It's important to me that others are enjoying the dispatches because it gives some point and validity to the otherwise pointless exercise of turning this truly sorry kit into a model :-) Thanks again for your kind words Mike sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 08:56:25 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Aurevoir! Message-ID: <006101c11dae$09bc60a0$5538183f@cyrixp166> I am going to un-sub for a few days. Take care all! Regards, John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 08:49:34 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Back Message-ID: <200108051349.GAA15627@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Well, I came back late yesterday, and was only able to subscribe with no messages. It was fun, even though I had a "ahem" seminar to attend. Met up with Chris B-R and Erik, and even attended one of the club's model meetings. Met Stephen Tontoni there, as well as Jim Shubert. Pretty fun. I came back with a bunch of stuff, but mainly for my VVS side. However, I did come back to the Pegasus Halberstadt waiting for me, and it's a nice kit. Now to figure out what scheme Jacobs' plane was in... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 15:25:29 +0000 From: pugs99@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Looking for Eduard Sopwith Pup Message-ID: <20010805152529.OXMM18077.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hi Folks, Does anyone have a spare 1/48 Eduard Sopwith Pup(not the "ski" version)they would like to sell or trade?? Let me know... Regards, John Impenna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:01:00 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Yellowing decals Message-ID: <000701c11dc7$d28df2a0$8baa72d4@FRITZweb> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Perry" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: Yellowing decals > Windows, even with a southern exposure, can have screens as well as blocked > sun during parts of the day. You get better bleaching quicker if you leave > them on the car dash. Just try not to spill hot coffee on them on the way to > work > sp Oh! Lucky U.S. car drivers! Can drink coffee while driving. We Europeans need our right ( of left, if british) arm to change gear... H. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:07:35 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: RE: Yellowing decals Message-ID: <005001c11dc8$bea91020$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > > Oh! Lucky U.S. car drivers! Can drink coffee while driving. We Europeans > need our right ( of left, if british) arm to change gear... > H. So do we, thats why I keep spilling coffee all over the place. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:10:15 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Dutch DVII interior linen colour Message-ID: <002d01c11dc9$1d5f4760$8baa72d4@FRITZweb> > Cam, > > > Is anyone aware of the colour the Dutch DVII's had for their interior > > linen inside the cockpit? Try and ask Hans Vosser, a dutch guy who fell in love with the D VII. http://members.tripod.com/~Hans_Vossers/d7html/d7index.htm Anyway, a good side, also. Hans Trauner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:15:13 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Dutch DVII interior linen colour Message-ID: <003901c11dc9$ce9cd060$8baa72d4@FRITZweb> Gaston wrote: > Uhmmm........... isn't the D.VII on display at the German Museum in Munich a > Dutch machine? Yes, definitely. And it's only overpainted, not recovered. The inner sides of the cockpit shows a olive, brownish shade, much more greenish than dutch D VII's are usually shown. But I am not sure if this is the original shade. For me it looks repainted. Take a look at Gaston's webside. There is a cockpit pic , also. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:40:14 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: RE: Yellowing decals Message-ID: <20010805164344.LYNI838.priv-edtnes10-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> On Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:07:56 -0400 (EDT), Steven Perry wrote: >> >> Oh! Lucky U.S. car drivers! Can drink coffee while driving. We >>Europeans >> need our right ( of left, if british) arm to change gear... >> H. > >So do we, thats why I keep spilling coffee all over the place. >sp > > Whats a gear??? Ray ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:45:03 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Ebay Alias's and wwimodeler Message-ID: <20010805164832.RSKV14329.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> A while ago we had a list of ebay alias's for members of this list. Is this still being kept up to date. I'm bidding on a certain Sopwith Triplane and a person called wwimodeler is bidding against me. So the question is do I make the model expensive for him/her or is the person a member of this list. In which case I wont bid anymore. Ray (Aka SopwithDolphin for ebay purposes) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:55:37 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: RE: Yellowing decals Message-ID: <000501c11dcf$738c60e0$04ab72d4@FRITZweb> > > Whats a gear??? > > Ray You are right, Ray! Sorry, I forgot! If you want to learn something about gears, take a look to the Siemens -Halske thing which drove the Siemens DIII to the sky and the mechanics nuts. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:55:57 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Yellowing decals Message-ID: > > Oh! Lucky U.S. car drivers! Can drink coffee while driving. We Europeans > need our right ( of left, if british) arm to change gear... > H. > Not everybody - our next car will definetly be equipped with the new sequentronic gearbox with 6 gears. Last week my car was at the garage for maintenance so they gave me a brandnew MB Sportscoupé for replacement until I got my car back. Boy, I really fell in love with that automatic gear. It's highly comfortable and at the same time very performant due to its sport program. That was big fun to drive. btw: after most European traffic rules one has to have ALWAYS both hands on the wheel! No coffee drinkin - No phone calls on mobiles - Hands off the lady in the other seat! Aaahhh....yes it's "ot" I know - but since the beginning of engine developement, both MB and BMW competed and both equipped aircraft with their engines throughout WW1, so it is not that much "ot", hehe. The MB Sports Coupé that I drove was equipped with a supercharged compressor engine, like the Me's was already in the summer of 1940. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3581 **********************