WWI Digest 3579 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Sucking fabric by "Jay M. Thompson" 2) Wonder Wire/ attn: Graham by Andreikor@aol.com 3) Cool people? by Andreikor@aol.com 4) Re: Eduard Nie 11 Help by RadspadMike@netscape.net 5) First OT kits by Andreikor@aol.com 6) RE: lozenged Dr.1??? by "Allen H Besser" 7) WWI Aero No. 173, was bad spam by RadspadMike@netscape.net 8) RE: MvRs trigger was RE: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? by Shane Weier 9) Check out "The Hugo Junkers Homepage" by Andreikor@aol.com 10) Re: first model by Ray Boorman 11) Re: WWI Aero No. 173, was bad spam by KarrArt@aol.com 12) Dispatch from the AEG Front by "Steven Perry" 13) Re: Dispatch from the AEG Front by MAnde72343@aol.com 14) RE: lozenged Dr.1??? by ibs4421@commandnet.net 15) Re: First OT kits by ibs4421@commandnet.net 16) Re: first model by Shane Weier 17) Upcoming Osprey by Shane Weier 18) First OT KIts by MAnde72343@aol.com 19) Re: Upcoming Osprey by Ernest Thomas 20) Re: Upcoming Osprey by REwing@aol.com 21) Re: Sucking fabric by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 22) Re: Upcoming Osprey by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 23) Re: Sucking fabric by "Jay M. Thompson" 24) Re: Upcoming Osprey by Ray Boorman 25) RE: Eduard Nie 11 Instructions by "Nigel Rayner" 26) scanning pics for Shane was RE: MvRs trigger was RE: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? by "Gaston Graf" 27) RE: Cool people? by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 19:05:37 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Sucking fabric Message-ID: That canvas "bulkhead" was just a piece of canvas stitched not too tightly to the tubing station just behind the cockpit. So I don't think it would have prevent fabric "sucking in" if indeed Fokkers generated a bit of vacuum pressure from the wind blowing across the cockpit opening. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Andreikor@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:17 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Sucking fabric D. wrote: However I've read before that the fabric on the nieuports "sucked in" while the airplane was in flight. Would this be true ion the case of fokkers? I think that not, because it had a canvas bulkhead behind the seat and the nieuports don't. But why the fuslegae sides would "suck in" instead of "bulging out" in the airstream is a misteery to me. D. That's simple, D. .... everybody knows Nieuports suck! (Ducking Bittner's right hook) Cheers, Andrei :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:02:03 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Wonder Wire/ attn: Graham Message-ID: <33.18da2010.289c957b@aol.com> Graham wrote: I understand... again, best thing to do is simply try it! Yes, both Bruce and Marita are afficianados. Marita is also a fine figure modeller and won Best Of Show at the MFCA show years ago with an entirely scratchbuit boxed diorama od an 1860's western train depot. They haven't done much modelling in the last few years, but now that Marita is retiring from teaching, I'm hoping we'll get her back! Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:05:29 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Cool people? Message-ID: <6f.18e8fa56.289c9649@aol.com> Karen wrote: <<< I don't get out much, but I'm convinced this list has a monopoly on really cool people. >>> You poor dear! My suggestion is to try, TRY to get out more often :) Cheers, Andrei :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:08:07 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: Mark Miller , Subject: Re: Eduard Nie 11 Help Message-ID: <2407ED9B.48FB4A20.3E0364A1@netscape.net> I just sent scans of the Eduard Nie 11 instructions to Nigel - - if I didn't overload his system. Anyhow, I have them on file if I need to send in smaller batches. I'm posting this so no one will spend time in duplicating the scans. Mike Kavanaugh >On Fri, 03 August 2001, "Nigel Rayner" wrote: > >Hi gang, >Eduard Nie 11 - no instructions. Could anyone that has the Eduard Nie 11 and a scanner perhaps send me a scan of the instructions if they have time? >Thanks a lot, > >Nigel __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:11:46 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: First OT kits Message-ID: <91.e5bf790.289c97c2@aol.com> Hans asked: I lost my OT virginity to the Renwall 1/72 Albatros DV at age 12... yup, Aero-skin and all, which I promplty painted over! Only after that did I find the usual Airfix and Revell kits. Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:13:44 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? Message-ID: <020c01c11c7a$5480ce80$140c0a3f@compaq-computer> Gets stranger. This, my second messge is listed as being 1: 37 pm and my first as being at 7:35 (correct). This should be at 7:40 eastern daylight savings time, August 3, 2001. At 1:37 I was at the picnic. Fare from any e-mail. Must have take the time from the message I replied to. Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: Allen H Besser To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:37 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: lozenged Dr.1??? >Oops, part of the last message got deleted and didn't make sense. Let >me try again:Ah, so you're a re-enactor. Another good reason Bill >Clinton's gone. >Visited Fort Necessity a couple of weeks ago, while this is ot it's >another of my passions, 18th Century history and French and Indian >(Seven Years War) history. They had some "uniformed characters" at 2 >pm. "Oh, you have re-enactors meeting here this weekend", I foolishly >asked. "No, we call them interpreters, not allowed to fire guns at each >other as we >are part of the National Parks Service and having re-enactors shooting >guns at each other would make it seem that the NPS is endorsing war". >There were only two of them and they lectured and fired a couple of >sample shots in to the air. Not at any French or Indians, thank >goodness. The kind of re-enactments done at Forts Niagara and >Tincondiroga would be illegal at a NPS facility. > >Al Besser > >-----Original Message----- >From: ibs4421@commandnet.net >To: Multiple recipients of list >Date: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:05 PM >Subject: [WWI] RE: lozenged Dr.1??? > > >>Ya'll, >> Like a lot of my fellow military reenactor/living history >types, I >>have spent no small amount of time watching war movies and taking them >apart >>authenticity-wise, "The Blue Max" being no exception. While it is >>chock-full of faults in the air and on the ground, I'll always recall >the >>way a friend fo mine characterized the movie: >> >>"Chock-full of aircraft with twind Sapndaus blazing, and who could >forget >>Ursula Andress with her twin Spandaus blazing!" >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:21:24 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: KarrArt@aol.com, Multiple recipients of list Subject: WWI Aero No. 173, was bad spam Message-ID: <27CC9E48.107B7E92.3E0364A1@netscape.net> KarrArt@aol.com wrote: >I got the new WW I Aero yesterday. It's one of those personal "dud" issues. >Nothing really grabs my personal chain and pulls very hard. This means that >in a year or two I'll develope an insatiable desire to built or paint a >Standard J-1 or Sturtevant Battleplane. Other stuff includes "The Unknown >Liberty Engines", part 2 of a disertation on "American Airpower Doctrine", a not entirely unpleasant article on NASM's Caudron G-4.....and some other >stuff. >RK I dunno, I like the centerfold (but of course, I have a thing about centerfolds) of an old taped together photo of the Roe IV triplane at Brooklands. I think it's neat and something I might even be able to scratch if I could find a decent set of plans and some more photos. Not OT though, I suppose. I've got a 1/48 Life-Like kit of an AVRO Triplane 1911. Don't know if it's the same aircraft, but even so, it would be better for me in a larger scale. FWIW, Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:25:51 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: MvRs trigger was RE: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3A0@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Gaston > the time you'll need to find them because I don't know how > big your house is Floh sized. > nor do I know how big the mess is in your garage) Grosflugzeug size. > Then mail them over to me > and don't forget to mail copies to Matt for the website. You > may become the > number one contributor of the Jasta Boelcke website ;o). What I need first is a scanner. From the same visit I have two albums with 250+ prints mostly of the AWM's ALbatros D.Va, Pfalz D.XII, Avro 504, DH-9, SE-5a, and 1913 Deperdussin, plus some photos of OT engines and guns, turrets from HMAS Sydney and SMS Emden and other odds and ends of OT period stuff from the Memorial itself and the Treloar Centre (AWM's restoration and storage facility) At the time I promised to get copy prints for several list people, but the expense of my wifes chemotherapy and the loss of her income to our family stopped me doing it - so one day I'd like at least to be able to share scans Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:41:41 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Check out "The Hugo Junkers Homepage" Message-ID: <14.17fcef5f.289c9ec5@aol.com> For Junkers fans.... Cheers, Andrei Click Here: The Hugo Junkers Homepage http://www.junkers.de.vu/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:39:17 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: Re: first model Message-ID: <20010804003937.CTLL5587.priv-edtnes27-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Marcio wrote, > >ot comment: Today I saw the 26-minute footage of The Fellowship of >the >Ring - the same shown in Cannes Festival. Well, still have no words >to >describe... > >(sorry, but I HAD to tell you this!) I am deliberately avoiding any excerpts from LOTR. The way they show excerpts nowadays they'll ruin all the best bits. Or I'll be really bummed, that they screwed it up badly. Either way it will ruin the film for me. OT content, I have it on excellent authority that not only was Vegemite the colour of PC10 and Voss's cowling, but the Germans used Vegemite as there synthetic castor oil replacment. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:17:55 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI Aero No. 173, was bad spam Message-ID: In a message dated 8/3/01 5:23:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RadspadMike@netscape.net writes: << I dunno, I like the centerfold (but of course, I have a thing about centerfolds) of an old taped together photo of the Roe IV triplane at Brooklands. I think it's neat and something I might even be able to scratch if I could find a decent set of plans and some more photos. Not OT though, I suppose. I've got a 1/48 Life-Like kit of an AVRO Triplane 1911. Don't know if it's the same aircraft, but even so, it would be better for me in a larger scale. >> Every issue will have these gems like the Avro centerfold. It's also why I read it all cover to cover. Often some 7 word sentence will have just what I need! RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:34:19 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Dispatch from the AEG Front Message-ID: <004f01c11c8d$f8124d40$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> The Commander sent his troops over the top Thursday evening. The battlefield was prepared by a barrage light blue green (night bomber interior color) paint. A post barrage survey of the battlefield revealed it to be the worst ground the Commander has ever done battle on. The two halves are both bananna shaped in plan view. When squeezed together they approximate a fit, but not very closely. The duckboard platoon was then sent in and installed a 5 thou card flooring After which heroic action by the structural engineers resulted in the steel tube framework being installed out of 25 thou rod. Supply problems have resulted in a critical shortage of CA. The troops are making do with hardware store CA gel and their volatile old standby, Tenax. The Commander has found Mr. Clausewitz's remark about battle plans not lasting past the first contact with the enemy particularly to the point in this engagement. The engineers will have to be held back from the second half until the bulkheads are installed in the first and the halves squeezed together in order to see where the bulkheads will touch the second side in order to position the framework properly on that side. The fuselage salient will be the hardest fought action of the AEG war so far. The terrain is miserable, supply problems acute, and all the fighting is hand to plastic scratchbuilding, while the successful prosecution of the entire war hinges on this engagement. Back to the Front sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:27:00 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dispatch from the AEG Front Message-ID: One of Haig's staff officers, was said to have exclaimed, on seeing the Somme Valley: "We sent men to fight in THAT?!" Having seen the terrain of the current offensive, it seemed an appropriate comment. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:29:37 -0500 From: ibs4421@commandnet.net To: Subject: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? Message-ID: <001f01c11c9e$13177740$753dfad1@esther> Al, Actually, the rule governing the actions of uniformed interpreters on NPS property that keeps them from discharging a weapon at each other dates back to 1961. There was a reenactment of the Battle of First Manassas on the National Battlefield Park. This, of course, was before "reenactments" were done, and the concept of "living history" was not thought of yet. Anyway, things as you might guess were wild and wooly, and some idiot fired off a musket with the ramrod still in the barrel, and of course it went through a fellow, killing him deader than four o'clock. The family sued the pants off of the NPS, and ever since they have prohibited the discharging of firearms by opposing troops, etc. Of course, since the black days of 1992, there has been a politically correct viewpoint that interpretation of weapons, battles, etc. if just barbaric and passe'. Sorry for the ot subject matter folks, but I just thought I would clear that one up. If any of you have any more questions along this line, or would like to hear me rant, rave, and preach about the evils of politically correct interpretation of history, please ask me off list. I remain as always . . . A Right-Winger with a Bunker Mentality, Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen H Besser" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: [WWI] RE: lozenged Dr.1??? > Oops, part of the last message got deleted and didn't make sense. Let > me try again:Ah, so you're a re-enactor. Another good reason Bill > Clinton's gone. > Visited Fort Necessity a couple of weeks ago, while this is ot it's > another of my passions, 18th Century history and French and Indian > (Seven Years War) history. They had some "uniformed characters" at 2 > pm. Oh, you have re-enactors meeting here this weekend, I foolishly > asked. "No, we call them interpreters, not allowed to fire guns at each > other as we > are part of the National Parks Service and having re-enactors shooting > guns at each other would make it seem that the NPS is endorsing war. > There were only two of them and they lectured and fired a couple of > sample shots in to the air. Not at any French or Indians, thank > goodness. The kind of re-enactments done at Forts Niagara and > Tincondiroga would be illegal at a NPS facility. > > Al Besser > > -----Original Message----- > From: ibs4421@commandnet.net > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:05 PM > Subject: [WWI] RE: lozenged Dr.1??? > > > >Ya'll, > > Like a lot of my fellow military reenactor/living history > types, I > >have spent no small amount of time watching war movies and taking them > apart > >authenticity-wise, "The Blue Max" being no exception. While it is > >chock-full of faults in the air and on the ground, I'll always recall > the > >way a friend fo mine characterized the movie: > > > >"Chock-full of aircraft with twind Sapndaus blazing, and who could > forget > >Ursula Andress with her twin Spandaus blazing!" > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:39:46 -0500 From: ibs4421@commandnet.net To: Subject: Re: First OT kits Message-ID: <004d01c11c9f$7dcc3fc0$753dfad1@esther> My first OT kits were the Revell Dr I and the Sopwith Camel, along with the MPC "Ballon Buster" set which had a 1/72nd scale SPAD XIII and a set of the Airfix German troops. I think I was 10, and it was 1971. I loved the box art on the little Revell kits. Shortly after that I managed to get hold of the 1/28th Dr I and Sopwith Camel. I've still got my 1/28th Frank Luke SPAD unbuilt. Speaking of old unbuilt kits, what methods do all of you prefer to get rid of the "yellowing" of the decals? I knwo some folks say putting them in asunny window for a while will help. I heard somewhere that putting a little vinegar in the water you soak them in helps. I've never tried either, but have a few kits that need the "yellow" taken out. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:20:04 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Re: first model Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3A1@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hans asks: > Anyway, what where *your*very first OT kits, listees? Tell type, > manufacturer and age when you did it! I pretty sure it was the Airfix Fokker Dr.I, though I also built the Airfix Bristol Fighter that same Christmas. It seems likely that I built the Tripe first, because I remember making a real mess of the Biff and being disappointed it didn't look as good as the little red tripe. I know *exactly* when this was too, because I bought the kits after reading and being inspired by my first Biggles novel given to me at Christmas 1966 by my grandparents (I still have this book, inscribed, which I how I can date this accurately!) Good grief. 35 years! I was 9, a modeller for 2 years already and younger than either kit! Biggles later led me to buy all the Airfix OT kits, and the Revell ones too when I finally found them some years later (American kits were rarities here) Shane (STILL younger than either kit, and we're *all* showing our age badly!) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:23:16 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: Upcoming Osprey Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD3A2@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hi all, Aircraft of the Aces Series 39. SPAD VII Aces of WW1........... TBA 40. Fokker Dr.I Aces of WW1.......... TBA 42. American Aces of WW1.......... TBA 45. British & Empire Aces of WW1.......... TBA 46. Austro-Hungarian Aces of WW1.......... TBA I knew about the first two, the later ones may be new to others as well Shane (trying to figure out where they find 40 odd American aces) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:29:05 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: First OT KIts Message-ID: That was a poser, I started building my own models in 1958, I remember my first model, but it gets blurred after that, I know I built all the Aurora OT kits, as they came out in the early 60s, (Except the Gotha, it was "expensive", over a dollar, whereas the others were all 69 or 89 cents) I'm pretty sure my first OT kit was a balsa and paper rubber band powered Camel, followed by the then Hawk SPAD XIII. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 01:15:54 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Upcoming Osprey Message-ID: <3B6B931A.D73C255C@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > (trying to figure out where they find 40 odd American aces) Well, if you include Ace Frehley and The Late Great Johnny Ace.... E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 02:21:14 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Upcoming Osprey Message-ID: <68.12433ff3.289cee5a@aol.com> --part1_68.12433ff3.289cee5a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shane wondered... "(trying to figure out where they find 40 odd American aces)" Shane, most Americans are odd so it probably wasn't too hard to find 40 for the book. I wanted to beat Diego to the punch! -Rick- List Librarian --part1_68.12433ff3.289cee5a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Shane wondered...

"(trying to figure out where they find 40 odd American aces)"

Shane, most Americans are odd so it probably wasn't too hard to find 40 for
the book.  I wanted to beat Diego to the punch!

-Rick-
List Librarian

--part1_68.12433ff3.289cee5a_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 02:27:52 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sucking fabric Message-ID: <3B6B95E8.EFA3D1B1@mars.ark.com> The windscreen on the Nieuports would have created a partial vacuum behind it drawing all the air out of the fuselage... Some Nieuports (10) had a bulkhead - but it was made from perforated plywood much like the seats so wouldn't have had much effect. Mike F. Andreikor@aol.com wrote: > > D. wrote: > However I've read before that the fabric on the nieuports "sucked in" while > the airplane was in flight. Would this be true ion the case of fokkers? I > think that not, because it had a canvas bulkhead behind the seat and the > nieuports don't. But why the fuslegae sides would "suck in" instead of > "bulging out" in the airstream is a misteery to me. > D. > > That's simple, D. .... everybody knows Nieuports suck! > (Ducking Bittner's right hook) > Cheers, > Andrei :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 02:34:17 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Upcoming Osprey Message-ID: <3B6B9769.52FFFD83@mars.ark.com> Easier to find 40 Canadian aces... Shane Weier wrote: > > Hi all, > > Aircraft of the Aces Series > > 39. SPAD VII Aces of WW1........... TBA > 40. Fokker Dr.I Aces of WW1.......... TBA > 42. American Aces of WW1.......... TBA > 45. British & Empire Aces of WW1.......... TBA > 46. Austro-Hungarian Aces of WW1.......... TBA > > I knew about the first two, the later ones may be new to others as well > > Shane > > (trying to figure out where they find 40 odd American aces) > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 01:37:12 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sucking fabric Message-ID: Take a straw. Place it in water. Blow across the top of the straw. Look at what happens to the water level inside the straw. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of mdf@mars.ark.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 1:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] Re: Sucking fabric The windscreen on the Nieuports would have created a partial vacuum behind it drawing all the air out of the fuselage... Some Nieuports (10) had a bulkhead - but it was made from perforated plywood much like the seats so wouldn't have had much effect. Mike F. Andreikor@aol.com wrote: > > D. wrote: > However I've read before that the fabric on the nieuports "sucked in" while > the airplane was in flight. Would this be true ion the case of fokkers? I > think that not, because it had a canvas bulkhead behind the seat and the > nieuports don't. But why the fuslegae sides would "suck in" instead of > "bulging out" in the airstream is a misteery to me. > D. > > That's simple, D. .... everybody knows Nieuports suck! > (Ducking Bittner's right hook) > Cheers, > Andrei :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:11:44 -0700 From: Ray Boorman To: Subject: Re: Upcoming Osprey Message-ID: <20010804081520.GXEJ20744.priv-edtnes04-hme0.telusplanet.net@ray> Shane Weier wrote: >Hi all, > >Aircraft of the Aces Series > >39. SPAD VII Aces of WW1........... TBA >40. Fokker Dr.I Aces of WW1.......... TBA >42. American Aces of WW1.......... TBA >45. British & Empire Aces of WW1.......... TBA >46. Austro-Hungarian Aces of WW1.......... TBA > >I knew about the first two, the later ones may be new to others as >well > >Shane > >(trying to figure out where they find 40 odd American aces) I bet some of the Canadian aces count as American. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:53:59 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Eduard Nie 11 Instructions Message-ID: <000801c11cd3$c3e00440$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Hi all, Just wanted to say a big on list thanks to Mike Kavanaugh who came through with these instructions for me. And thanks to others that offered. Now, can anybody find the extra two hours a day I need to make the time to build this fine kit....? Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:10:37 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: scanning pics for Shane was RE: MvRs trigger was RE: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? Message-ID: Shane, > > the time you'll need to find them because I don't know how > > big your house is > > Floh sized. > > > nor do I know how big the mess is in your garage) > > Grosflugzeug size. Looks like we share something :o). > > > Then mail them over to me...... > > What I need first is a scanner...... > > At the time I promised to get copy prints for several list people, but the > expense of my wifes chemotherapy and the loss of her income to our family > stopped me doing it - so one day I'd like at least to be able to > share scans > I feel very sorry for this, Shane and I really hope your wife will get better soon, have a job again and enjoy life with you. If you trust me I would like to make you an offer: Find your pictures and send them over to me by snailmail. I will scan them for you, burn them on CD and mail them back to you with the CDs. If you want, you may then send me a blank CD back for each that I filled with pictures. My scanner is a CanoScan600 SCSI which scans at a resolution of 600dpi in a very good quality since the light source is a Xeon light. I can record you the pics in 600dpi full size where the usual 10x15cm postcard size takes about 24-25Mb for each picture saved in TIFF format, or I can resample the scans to 50% which is reducing the size to only 5-6Mb but still is much bigger than a 17" screen. I am actually scanning a set of 43 pictures of a Roman history event for Hans and saved those pics as 600dpi scans, 50% size. My printer is able to print even smaller pictures enlarged on DIN4 sheets in perfect quality. I once restored a small passport picture of my wife which I scanned at 600dpi, then edited it with Corel Photopaint to remove all of the many crackles, removed the original texture, underlayed it with a canvas texture and printed it out as a 10x15cm photograph on HP Glossy Photopaper. Looks perfect! Depending on the quantity of your pictures it may take a while until I will have finished the job but I can assure you that I am an honest person and will see to get this done for you as soon as I can. You don't need to send all of the pictures at a time but can send me only a selection for the first CD. We may talk about this off list if you like. With my kindest regards and my best wishes to your wife Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:10:39 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Cool people? Message-ID: > Karen wrote: > <<< I don't get out > much, but I'm convinced this list has a monopoly on really cool > people. >>> > > You poor dear! My suggestion is to try, TRY to get out more often :) > Cheers, > Andrei :) Why going out? She will run only into some stupid show offs and other bums who will be trying to wrap her into some stupid stories because they have nothing else in mind than being after her cute 6 o'clock position... And after one "layed her down on the lawn" - to speak with MvRs words - she'll be chalked up as just another victory on his killboard. Better stay with us, Karen ;o). Here you're safe! Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3579 **********************