WWI Digest 3574 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Nats photos by Allan Wright 2) Re: Subject lines by Allan Wright 3) Message for Jay Thompson by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 4) Re: Model-Bau Kit Studio?? by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 5) RE: Model-Bau Kit Studio?? by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 6) RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C by "Jay M. Thompson" 7) RE: Lozenge Decal Application by RadspadMike@netscape.net 8) Re: The cowl was [Yellow] [Yellow] [Yellow] [Yellow] [Yellow] by RadspadMike@netscape.net 9) RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 10) RE: lozenged Dr.1??? by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 11) Re: lozenged Dr.1??? by "Brent Theobald" 12) RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C by "dfernet0" 13) Web site by Allan Wright 14) Re: lozenged Dr.1??? by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 15) RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C by "Dale Sebring" 16) Thanks for Rodens Email was [ Re: That "C" Grade by "cameron rile" 17) quick question by Ernest Thomas 18) Bluprint Models' Phone Number by RadspadMike@netscape.net 19) big spad by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 20) Re: quick question by MAnde72343@aol.com 21) MvRs trigger was RE: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? by "Gaston Graf" 22) Re: quick question by Ernest Thomas 23) Re: quick question by MAnde72343@aol.com 24) RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: Guillows Kits: was Re: by KarrArt@aol.com 26) Re: Bluprint Models' Phone Number by KarrArt@aol.com 27) RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C by "dfernet0" 28) Re: Subject lines by Peter Fedders 29) Re: Guillows Kits: was Re: by "Bob Pearson" 30) RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C by KarrArt@aol.com 31) RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C by "dfernet0" 32) Re: Subject lines by Allan Wright ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:58:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nats photos Message-ID: <200108021258.IAA59886@mustang.sr.unh.edu> > Allan has posted a few photos I took at the Nats of some of the list > attendees. Sorry there aren't more. Quite a few other listees were, of > course, there. So those of you who have been waiting to see what some of > the name look like, here's your chance. I even got two of the mysterious > Mr. Bittner--but I gotta tell ya, there's something about him... > > http://mustang.sr.unh.edu/Photos/Various/2001_Nats/index.html This is my fault, I gave Karen the wrong URL. While the one above will work, the correct URL is: http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Various/2001_Nats/index.html For some reason the webserver is letting it's true identity leak out. It should tell you you're at www.wwi-models.org not mustang.sr.unh.edu. Please don't bookmark mustang.sr.unh.edu, as it's subject to future change. Mail for the list should also be addressed to wwi@wwi-models.org and NOT wwi@mustang.sr.unh.edu Doing this will insure you get uninterrupted service next time I switch desktop machines, which will be happining sooner than you might think. I have some plans to upgrade again soon, in order to use an oracle database to manage the image galleries! Imagine, in 6 months you'll get an account and be able to upload and manage your own galleries! Well hopefully. (I'm planning on stealing some 'tech' I'm writing for a customer to do this.) In summary: mustang.sr.unh.edu - BAD www.wwi-models.org - GOOD Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:38:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject lines Message-ID: <200108021338.JAA59651@mustang.sr.unh.edu> Shane says: > > The internet default for mailing > > lists is to have the [listname] in the header. I'm just > > trying to be like > > the 'big boys'. I just have a bug to work out of the system. > > Since when was it a requirement for the WW1 list to be like *anyone* So true, we are unique.... > Frankly, this is an elite group, full of people smart enough to tell which > emails come from the list by reading the names of the senders and the > subject line without the need to be bashed over the head. Well, actually I personally find the [WWI] usefull. I've deleted work e-mail accidently thinking it was another 18th 'me too' reply to a WWI thread. > Major PITA from my perspective, because I receive email on my work account > where sweeping software counts incoming mail with *any* [listname] in the > header and compiles a management report which requires the receiver of large > numbers of listmails to justify their membership or get off. Dang - well actually home delivery might be advisable. Even without the [WWI] they can detect that you're getting list mail (such a high volume from one sender) and eventually they'd sniff you out. Don't risk your job for the WWI list Shane! > However - you're the boss, and I can go to digest if I must, despite the > loss of immediacy. Sorry about the inconvience Shane. Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:55:50 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: Message for Jay Thompson Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906F0A9@SERVER1> Dear Jay, my messages to the e-mail address shown on your page of the WW1 Modeling List keep bouncing back : can you please contact me off-List ? Thanks ! Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:06:11 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: cgavin@ipa.ne, wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Model-Bau Kit Studio?? Message-ID: Hi Craig, Thanks for the info!!! I knew it would happen as soon as I asked the list: Detlef sent me an email this am telling me he just got back from "holiday" as they say!!!! Thanks again! Regards, John Craig Gavin Sent by: cc: wwi@wwi-model Subject: [WWI] Re: Model-Bau Kit Studio?? s.org 08/01/01 11:11 PM Please respond to wwi John - I had a note from him a week or two ago that he was going on vacation (holiday) and will not be filling pending orders until he returns. Don't hold me to this, but I think he said he'd be back around August 14th. Hope this helps - Craig Gavin + > From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:32:37 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Model-Bau Kit Studio?? > > > Hi Folks, > Has anyone had any recent correspondance with Detlef Schorsch?? I have been > trying to place an order for a week now and haven't received any responses > to my inquiries...Is he away on vacation?? TIA if anyone knows... > > Regards, > John > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:12:38 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Model-Bau Kit Studio?? Message-ID: Thanks Volker!! Detlef replied this am...I just wasn't sure if my emails were reaching him...He told me there are a couple of new Luedemann kits coming out: Macchi M.9 flying boat - DM 29,95, Phoenix-Albatros B.II with Knoller wing - DM 29,95, Lebed XII ( 2 diff. engineversions, & Skies) - DM 29,95, Let us know if you see these...Sounds exciting!!!! Thr .jpg of the B-II looks great...I can't wait to get the Luedemann kits that I ordered.... regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:38:11 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Message-ID: In poring over a gillion D.VII photos, I did see that at least the rear fuselage tubing was sometimes visible, particularly on aircraft that looked like they had been around the block a few times. The effect was one more of greater fading and wear in the vertical tubing locations, rather than the tubing locations standing proud of the surrounding fabric. All of the fuselage texture maps I've done for those latest renderings have a slight lightening over the "tubing" to account for this. I liked the effect, but I think this one is really a matter of taste unless you have very good photographic documentation that showed whether that particular aircraft had worn in that way. Another one to think about along these lines is sagging fabric. Most D.VII's seem to have been immune to this, but I did see many where there were very obvious fabric sagging, and none in exactly the same way- although most showed it near the metal side panels. It can't really be seen, but on a couple of my D.VII's I used something called displacement maps to generate this effect. I'm working on an SE5A now, and yeesh, the side fabric on those things looks terrible. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of dfernet0 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:12 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WWI] RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Shane wrote about the Roden Fokker: > (Incidentally, not all that convinced that there should be *visible* > structural detail on the outside in this scale either, but that's just my > artistic opinion and therefore entirely discountable) I agree. No structural detail should be seen on the outside of the plane if it has been covered well and the structure isn't distorted. However I've read before that the fabric on the nieuports "sucked in" while the airplane was in flight. Would this be true ion the case of fokkers? I think that not, because it had a canvas bulkhead behind the seat and the nieuports don't. But why the fuslegae sides would "suck in" instead of "bulging out" in the airstream is a misteery to me. D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:49:01 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: ibs4421@commandnet.net, Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Lozenge Decal Application Message-ID: <038E303A.619481D3.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Warren, After reading Bob's and Brent's comments on what color to use under the lozenge decal, I'm going to use some of the pinkish violet paint that I'm mixing some other stuff with to match Stark's lilac color. That should also make it a lot easier to paint the lilac parts of the fuselage later. FWIW, Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:10:51 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: "P. Howard" , Subject: Re: The cowl was [Yellow] [Yellow] [Yellow] [Yellow] [Yellow] Message-ID: <63AFC11D.634F247A.3E0364A1@netscape.net> "P. Howard" wrote: >I was completely unaware Blueprint had picked up the rights to do the >Marco's line. Can someone send me the info to get in contact with them? > Try email: bluprintmodels@worldnet.att.net Snailmail: Bluprint Models, P.O. Box 332, Pelham, NH 03076 I don't have a phone number. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:08:33 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Message-ID: >Shane wrote about the Roden Fokker: >> (Incidentally, not all that convinced that there should be *visible* >> structural detail on the outside in this scale either, but that's just my >> artistic opinion and therefore entirely discountable) > >I agree. No structural detail should be seen on the outside of the plane if >it has been covered well and the structure isn't distorted. Thinking back to my childhood days, when rag covered airplanes were a lot more common than today. My father had a crop dusting business and he used Steermans(sp) as the backbone of the aircraft fleet (all three planes) along with a new Pawnee. The fabric was applied with modern day materials and was very tight and structurally sound. When seen from a distance of 100 feet or more, they looked smooth, but as you got closer to them, you could see the bulkhead and stringer details on the outside. The fabric did pull into the spaces between, so the very light detail on the D.VII kits is in line. When I build one (up next after the Gotha), I will let you know how it looks. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:57:27 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? Message-ID: >Jeff! >snipThe most amazing fact was -however- how was supported the towel >on Ursula's >body... >D. D. It was either done with mirrors, velcro, super glue or duct tape. All of which are considered modern day miracle products that have a 1,000,000,001 uses around the home or office. Keep in mind that when the movie was made, these items would have been on the cutting edge of technology and would not have been considered out of line in the movie industry budget. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 15:20:20 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: lozenged Dr.1??? Message-ID: Howdy Jeff, There was a lozenged Dr.I in the Blue Max movie. There are plenty of pictures of it around. No contemporary Dr.I's were actually lozenged. But it looks cool don't it? Later! Brent >From: "Jeff Wilson" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WWI] lozenged Dr.1??? >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 20:29:58 -0400 (EDT) > >Brent, > >is this for real or just a flight of attractive fancy? I do have the >Datafile special on the triplane and IIRC it does not get a mention in >there. Sources??? > >Jeff > > >>> halberstadtcl2@hotmail.com - 2/8/01 9:45 AM >>> > >But hey! I am going to build it anyway. It'll look great next to my >lozenged >Fokker Dr.I. You gotta love rib tapes to tackle that project! > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:29:57 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Message-ID: <034601c11b67$fcf3c4a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Jay wrote: > In poring over a gillion D.VII photos, I did see that at least the rear > fuselage tubing was sometimes visible, particularly on aircraft that looked > like they had been around the block a few times. The effect was one more of > greater fading and wear in the vertical tubing locations, rather than the > tubing locations standing proud of the surrounding fabric. It must be due to washing the machine repeatedly wich would have caused a fading on the covering or even to a small amount of flapping of the fabric while in flight that may have caused the varnish to chip away. > I think this one is really a matter of taste unless you have > very good photographic documentation that showed whether that particular > aircraft had worn in that way. I like it too, but it must be a "colour" effect only, nothing tridimensional. > I'm working on an SE5A now, and yeesh, the side fabric on those things looks > terrible. Yes, those british planes needed a good ironing, ain't them? :-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:28:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Web site Message-ID: <200108021528.LAA60434@mustang.sr.unh.edu> The web site will be temporarilly unavailable while some DNS changes I made propogate across the internet. If you get a yahoo domains page just try again later. Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:28:15 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: lozenged Dr.1??? Message-ID: <3e.f4cdaf5.289acb8f@aol.com> I have a bit of a thing about movie ships. There are two problems with this one. First, it's a replica with several very un-Dr1 like features . And second, the losenge is hand painted in a none standerd pattern (look closely and it's a fairly crude job too) in colours chosen for cinematic reasons rather than accuracy. All the same, yes, it do look cool cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:29:31 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Message-ID: <001501c11b67$edc3d420$0db58dd0@main> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:39 AM Subject: [WWI] RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C But why the fuslegae sides would "suck in" instead of > "bulging out" in the airstream is a misteery to me. > D. I know while flying my Pietenpol Aircamper with 2 opened cockpits, the fus side fabric would suck in. Perhaps the cockpits act like a big vernuti & place the fus interior in a negetive atmosphere??? Interesting obsevation. Regards, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:46:03 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Thanks for Rodens Email was [ Re: That "C" Grade Message-ID: Fernando, >it's roden@rodenplant.com Thanks! cam ( Who has three linux machines in office and two at home. Free and IMAP accounts read in Browser, POP accounts in Mozilla Mail. ) AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:22:14 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: quick question Message-ID: <3B697E36.95A9C0D@bellsouth.net> Do the rib tapes extend onto the ailerons on Albatrii types? I've seen em both with and without, but that was on models, and you know modelers CAN'T be trusted. Tia. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 12:22:33 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Bluprint Models' Phone Number Message-ID: <7C33DEF8.76469CB9.3E0364A1@netscape.net> "P. Howard" wrote: >I was completely unaware Blueprint had picked up the rights to do the >Marco's line. Can someone send me the info to get in contact with them? Paul, I found Bluprint's phone number and just finished talking with Mike Ridlon when ordering his Fokker D.VIII. RK's remarks pushed me over the edge. The number is: 1-603-893-2519. He does take credit cards. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:30:11 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: big spad Message-ID: <20.1a1bd5c4.289ada13@aol.com> So, has anyone actually SEEN the 1/32 SPAD yet? Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:34:07 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: quick question Message-ID: The NASM restoration had "plain" ailerons, but none of the photos in the Datafile or DF Special, are clear enough to say anything else. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:39:37 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: MvRs trigger was RE: RE: lozenged Dr.1??? Message-ID: Don't forget the German pilot with the American face - really, I cannot see a German in George Peppard nor can't I see a German woman in Ursula Undress. Oh and the famous red tripe in the movie was equipped with modern instruments and a wooden instrument panel. Then the strange "triggers" they used, while the German Fokkers in fact was equipped with electrical trigger buttons. MvR disliked that modern stuff and asked to have a rifle stile trigger installed in his aircraft but I never found a source saying if this got ever realized and what aircraft was concerned. Was it for the famous red tripe or was it for his Albatros? My oldest daughter loved the Blue Max movie as she was only 3. She watched it on every day on video and was fascinated by the dogfights... To me the story is not to bad but what I really hated was the extremely ugly Lozenge Triplanes. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > dfernet0 > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:08 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] RE: lozenged Dr.1??? > > > Jeff! > IIRC there was no Dr.1 in lozenge. It must be a representation of > the plane > used on "The Blue Max" film wich was covered that way. > In fact, the producers of that movie wanted to show a level of > standarization of the german pilots far from the real WW1 practices. Have > you noticed that all the german pilots wear uhlan uniforms off > duty and all > have the same british "golden age" design of leather helmets? (even > including pockets for the earphones!!!). > The most amazing fact was -however- how was supported the towel > on Ursula's > body... > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeff Wilson > > is this for real or just a flight of attractive fancy? I do have the > Datafile special on the triplane and IIRC it does not get a mention in > there. Sources??? > > > > Jeff > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:55:05 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: quick question Message-ID: <3B6985E9.6B28CD18@bellsouth.net> MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > > The NASM restoration had "plain" ailerons, but none of the photos in the > Datafile or DF Special, are clear enough to say anything else. Thanks much, Merrill. Plain they will be. Just wish I had asked the question before I put the loz on the a'rons. E. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:57:24 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: quick question Message-ID: <12b.254e4e9.289ae074@aol.com> E, Plain as in no tapes, they were lozed. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:22:14 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Message-ID: <28.1905bb6b.289ae646@aol.com> In a message dated 8/2/01 7:38:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, vossie@mindspring.com writes: << In poring over a gillion D.VII photos, I did see that at least the rear fuselage tubing was sometimes visible, particularly on aircraft that looked like they had been around the block a few times. The effect was one more of greater fading and wear in the vertical tubing locations, rather than the tubing locations standing proud of the surrounding fabric........ .........but I did see many where there were very obvious fabric sagging, and none in exactly the same way- although most showed it near the metal side panels. It can't really be seen......... .......I'm working on an SE5A now, and yeesh, the side fabric on those things looks terrible. >> Maybe it was one of the Datafile Anthologies- maybe not- but one description of the D.VII structural show-through was "the wet T-shirt" effect, especially noticable over the cross bracing wires. When the wet dope was applied, the fabric was pushed against the wires and other members and left a visible impression. Also, what's sometimes seen isn't really the structure itself, it's lodged crud- caught and snagged in manner similar to gravestone rubbings. oooohhhhhhh- those wrinkly British fuselage sides! That's called "character". Usually pops up around laced panels meant to be "unlacable" for interior access. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:22:15 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Guillows Kits: was Re: Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/01 5:05:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Uggies@compuserve.com writes: << In a time long ago, I did 8 of the Guillows kits. Actually 6 because I drew up plans for the DH2 and the Sopwith Triplane and built them. In fact I still have the plans and templates for both. I was a draftsman at the time. I kept them for years but time and moving took their toll. I still have a few pieces of some of them. They turned out pretty good for the early 60's. Then I switched to plastic because of space restrictions. And here I am today. Dennis Ugulano >> Same here. I went nuts and built a gutload of planes in "Guillows scale" after I ran through most of their kit line. Sop Triplane, DH-2, Spad XIII, RE8, SS D.IV(or was it a III?) AND a Gotha G.IV in 9/16"=1', because that was the actual scale that worked out for the Guillows Pfalz and Rumpler........sigh- all that's left are a few fuzzy Poloroids. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:28:58 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bluprint Models' Phone Number Message-ID: <11.1800016b.289ae7da@aol.com> In a message dated 8/2/01 9:24:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, RadspadMike@netscape.net writes: << I found Bluprint's phone number and just finished talking with Mike Ridlon when ordering his Fokker D.VIII. RK's remarks pushed me over the edge. The number is: 1-603-893-2519. He does take credit cards. HTH, Mike Kavanaugh >> I have the Pfalz stashed away in the closet- unbuilt. I'm saving it for a 'treat'. I've never seen so much stuff crammed into a box. There's a resin prop, but this kit also included some nice veneer in case insanity struck and a real wooden unit was desired. I don't know about the D.VIII, or if the BluePrint issues continue the practice. The Pfalz even had a full size resin Pour le Merite tossed in! RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:39:12 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Message-ID: <003e01c11b7a$0b388ca0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Robert the K wrote: > one description > of the D.VII structural show-through was "the wet T-shirt" effect That's another excellent reason to like these airplanes! D. Would a fokD.VII dance A-go-go? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:24:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject lines Message-ID: At least one other person uses Unix. me peter On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Jay M. Thompson wrote: > Folks, every non-free email program I'm aware of has the ability to filter > incoming mail based upon a number of criteria. In Exchange and Outlook, it's > called Rules. In Eudora and Notes and most other programs (including those > on Macs), it's called filters. They're quite easy (IMO) to use and I've used > most of them. Check them out, they're useful for anyone who gets more than a > couple emails a day- you can send emails from friends into one box/folder, > family into another, work yet another, etc. > > Allan, yes, I understand you're using a Unix box, but you're a sysadmin, you > know. I'd honestly be very surprised if there were anyone else on the list > reading from a Unix or Linux system. And as for the folks using free email > accounts, they have serious limitations, and that's a very low lowest common > denominator to structure the list around. > > [WWI] won't affect me one way or the other, but I do think the above should > be taken into account in the future. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Dave Watts > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 5:37 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WWI] Re: Subject lines > > I for one like the [WWI] on the title field. I get so many e-mails that I > sometimes have to move through the WWI postings, and this way I won't > accidentally throw away a business posting, as has happened to me before. I > get about twenty-five e-mails a day that are business related. > > Best, > Dave > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:17:19 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Guillows Kits: was Re: Message-ID: <3B5F15F20020BAAA@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) Dennis writes .. > In a time long ago, I did 8 of the Guillows kits. Actually 6 > because I drew up plans for the DH2 and the Sopwith Triplane and built > them. In fact I still have the plans and templates for both. I was a > draftsman at the time. I kept them for years but time and moving took > their toll. I still have a few pieces of some of them. They turned out > pretty good for the early 60's. Then I switched to plastic because of > space restrictions. And here I am today. I did my own plans for the Albatros D.V and Sopwith Triplane .. in fact the Albatros is on a shelf beside me, while the Triplane is stripped of its covering and awaiting recovering some decade. The Triplane was the best flyer of all the 'Guillows' style aircraft I had. I also did plans for a 1/12 scale controline Pfalz D.III, but never got around to building it. .. wonder if I still have those. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:39:11 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Message-ID: <10c.397c4ed.289aea3f@aol.com> In a message dated 8/2/01 10:35:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: << > one description > of the D.VII structural show-through was "the wet T-shirt" effect That's another excellent reason to like these airplanes! D. Would a fokD.VII dance A-go-go? >> only if wearing vinyl boots........ RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:54:40 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Structural detail WAS: Hustads C Message-ID: <007001c11b7c$341a0660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> > Would a fokD.VII dance A-go-go? > > only if wearing vinyl boots........ > RK Herr Eversbusch from Pfalz never could have topped this! :-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:19:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Subject lines Message-ID: <200108021819.OAA50242@mustang.sr.unh.edu> > Allan, yes, I understand you're using a Unix box, but you're a sysadmin, you > know. I'd honestly be very surprised if there were anyone else on the list > reading from a Unix or Linux system. And as for the folks using free email > accounts, they have serious limitations, and that's a very low lowest common > denominator to structure the list around. I think you would be surprised how many Unix users and free-mail users there are on the list. Quite possible 20% of the subscribers I would estimate. Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3574 **********************