WWI Digest 3566 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: old mails - French Trains Late by "Gaston Graf" 2) Re: My Fokker pictures by "Steven Perry" 3) German Lozenge Decal Application by RadspadMike@netscape.net 4) RE: site create by "Jay M. Thompson" 5) Re: German Lozenge Decal Application by "Hans Trauner" 6) Re: German Lozenge Decal Application by "Lance Krieg" 7) RE: German Lozenge Decal Application by RadspadMike@netscape.net 8) RE: about the French was RE: old mails by Shane Weier 9) Nieuport Update by "Ken Acosta" 10) Re: Dennis' MS-P by Dennis Ugulano 11) Re: My Fokker pictures by Dennis Ugulano 12) Re: Morane-Saulnier Type P up and running by Dennis Ugulano 13) Re: Morane-Saulnier Type P up and running by Dennis Ugulano 14) Re: Finally, it's compete by Dennis Ugulano 15) Re: about the French was RE: old mails by Ernest Thomas 16) Re: Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard by "P. Howard" 17) RE: FOR SALE - A national treasure by Shane Weier 18) Squadron: RPM FT 17 $9.99 by Edward Swaim 19) Progress by Dennis Ugulano 20) Re: Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard by Ernest Thomas 21) Fokker D.VIII and tumbleweed by "Tom Plesha" 22) RE: old mails by Volker Haeusler 23) 1/72 scale, struts, weakness by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 24) Re: German Lozenge Decal Application by ibs4421@commandnet.net 25) I know I said I had no time for models. by Stephendigiacomo@aol.com 26) Re: I know I said I had no time for models. by ibs4421@commandnet.net 27) RE: Re: German Lozenge Decal Application by RadspadMike@netscape.net 28) Re: German Lozenge Decal Application by "Bob Pearson" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:41:38 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: old mails - French Trains Late Message-ID: Hammock equipped ELECTRICALS because the Diesels are not suited for that. No space for hanging! > It happens on days that drivers from Luxembourg > are allowed to drive there hammock equipped diesels on French tracks. Gasterix, the tired hobby mason. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:52:14 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: My Fokker pictures Message-ID: <005b01c11a02$b102ebe0$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Nice Fokker Marcio! I sure am impressed with the progress. Keep up the great work and more importantly keep having fun! sp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:01:58 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: German Lozenge Decal Application Message-ID: <2A824395.13520E5B.3E0364A1@netscape.net> I'm starting to do my first lozenge application on a Revell 1/28 Fokker D.VII depicting Rudolf Stark's 4487/18 using Americal Gryphon's decal sets. Like many things, it all seemed very straight forward until I got to the point of cutting the first chord-wise piece of lozenge decal. (1) (a) Since the wings are not perfect rectangles, how do you maintain a straight line along the leading edge of the wing between the upper and lower lozenge patterns and not overlap nor leave a gap along the top (or bottom) of the wing between the first piece of lozenge applied and the second and succeeding pieces? (b) Does "dry fitting" the new decal strip and cutting it to shape before soaking it in water work? (c) Do you start at the center and work out toward the wing tips? (d) When and how do you trim the excess lozenge decal? (2) On models of lozenged aircraft which have later been overpainted in part, do most modelers apply the lozenge first and then overpaint it or just lozenge the fuselage areas that show in the final version? Dicta Ira, I suppose but I would appreciate your opinions. (3) I would also appreciate any opinions regarding the top view profile of Stark's aircraft in the Albatros Fokker D.VII Anthology 2, page 24. It appears to me that the lozenged rear turtle deck has been lightly oversprayed (?) or otherwise painted with lilac paint; the side view seems to also support this idea. - - or is this something of an irregularity that happened at the printers? If no one knows for sure, I guess I can ask Ray Rimell, but that will make this overlong project even longer. Sorry for using up so much bandwith. I don't recall any lozenge application discussion in the past year but I should be fully prepared when it comes to rib tapes. TIA, Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:30:13 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: site create Message-ID: Well I'll put in my obligatory plug for Dreamweaver instead of Frontpage. The main problem with Frontpage is that it is not WYSIWYG, what you see in the editing window, preview window, and in the browser are three different things, which makes it very difficult to get table layouts to work correctly. It also writes some fairly icky code, if you ever have to get in to the code editing level. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Gaston Graf Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: site create Tom, MS Frontpage is an easy to use WYSIWYG editor which serves well to do the rough work but it has some little flaws and the fine work is best done in a text editor. This can be done in the text view of Frontpage indeed. For the beginning you won't need to edit the HTML code in text format but as you advance you'll certainly do it that way. Frontpage contains a site manager that I dislike because it is a bit tricky to use so I am using WS-FTP_LE for uploading my files. If you'll run into problems you can always ask and I'll try to help you with it. best regards Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Hi Everyone- > The cable provider I now use will allow you to create your own site, but > only using Front Page 2000. > Has anyone used this and any comments or suggestions. > TIA > Later > Tom > S.E.MI. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:48:12 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: German Lozenge Decal Application Message-ID: <00f801c11a0a$7f265be0$b4a172d4@FRITZweb> Mike, a lot of questions! I have to admit I'll answer on a theoretical basis as I never finished a 1/28 Fokker D VII due to heavy attacks of AMS whenever I open the kit box. But, nevertheless I'll try my very best: > (1) (a) Since the wings are not perfect rectangles, how do you maintain a straight line along the leading edge of the wing between the upper and lower lozenge patterns and not overlap nor leave a gap along the top (or bottom) of the wing between the first piece of lozenge applied and the second and succeeding pieces? Careful cutting, all you can do! If there are any small imperfections - the blue rib, or better, leading edge tape will disguise them (b) Does "dry fitting" the new decal strip and cutting it to shape before soaking it in water work? Depends on the flexibility of the backing paper. Normally it would work (c) Do you start at the center and work out toward the wing tips? No idea. Would there be any difference? (d) When and how do you trim the excess lozenge decal? Not too wet to avoid moving the decal, not too try to avoid cracking. On 1/48 kits and 1/72 I cutted them in a 'damp' stadium. It should be possible to remove/lift the cutted part in one piece. > (2) On models of lozenged aircraft which have later been overpainted in part, do most modelers apply the lozenge first and then overpaint it or just lozenge the fuselage areas that show in the final version? Dicta Ira, I suppose but I would appreciate your opinions. No, I won't apply any loz decal and overpaint it. The only exception would be if the lozenge has to show trough the top paint. Please note also that there will be no chance to use masking tape if any loz decal is beneath the paint. > (3) I would also appreciate any opinions regarding the top view profile of Stark's aircraft in the Albatros Fokker D.VII Anthology 2, page 24. It appears to me that the lozenged rear turtle deck has been lightly oversprayed (?) or otherwise painted with lilac paint; the side view seems to also support this idea. - - or is this something of an irregularity that happened at the printers? If no one knows for sure, I guess I can ask Ray Rimell, but that will make this overlong project even longer. No, I do not think so. The 'overspray' is clearly an attempt to add 'light' to the drawing. Take a look to the other topside drawing on page 9. Ray used this to get an 3D-effect to his drawings, a very common method. Take photo J35-4 to prove that. No overspray! > > Sorry for using up so much bandwith. I don't recall any lozenge application discussion in the past year but I should be fully prepared when it comes to rib tapes. > > TIA, > Mike Kavanaugh Don't worry, ask. It's the only way to get answers. Hans (Still planning Stark's D VII , including all sets Eric sells for a 1/28 kit! My Revell kit box includes them all, weighting two pounds now!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:02:00 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: German Lozenge Decal Application Message-ID: Mike is: "... starting to do my first lozenge application on a Revell 1/28 Fokker D.VII depicting Rudolf Stark's 4487/18...." The panels of lozenge are parallel to the line of flight, and so trimmed at the leading edge. The seams on the leading and trailing edges are then covered by separate pieces of fabric. DS Abbott, Wally Batter and others have done considerable work to confirm the seam locations for the various D.VII builders. They also note differences in the fuselage covering practices, which are more subtle; this will be relavent to a builder of Stark's plane. I can't recall off-hand which builder made the machine in question, but that information is readily available if you have the references handy - certainly the Fokker Anthology Part II will describe the wing seams for OAW. If these aren't available to you, let me know and I can check my copy. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:26:46 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: German Lozenge Decal Application Message-ID: <0AFFF05D.4A704F83.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Sorry, copied wrong aircraft number from the profiles page in Anthology 2. Stark's aircraft is Fokker D.VII (OAW)4523/18. Forget Alzheimer's. . . this is just plain advanced senility! RadspadMike@netscape.net wrote: >I'm starting to do my first lozenge application on a Revell 1/28 Fokker D.VII depicting Rudolf Stark's 4487/18 using Americal Gryphon's decal sets. __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:14:58 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: about the French was RE: old mails Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD371@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Gaston says: > I love their signal system - you may pass a > red stop light under certain conditions and also.. > The French railroad safety systems are > very performant and designed to keep the locomotive engineers > vigilant and concentrated. I don't suppose the two are related in any way ? ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 17:20:24 -0500 From: "Ken Acosta" To: Subject: Nieuport Update Message-ID: This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_461C175D.2041089F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Listees- Work continues ever-so-slowly on the Eduard 1/48 Ni.17. (For those who = have forgotten or otherwise don't know, this is my first attempt at an OT = model.) SWMBO and I just bought our first house in early June, so the = modeling stuff got packed up and neglected for several weeks while we = moved. We're going to a smaller house, so my "toy room," which had been a = 12x10 bedroom exclusively devoted to things of the modeling nature, has = been consolidated into a "toy area," consisting of a 5-foot table. = "Adapt, improvise, overcome." That's what I always say.. :-) I decided when I started this project that I would focus my detailing = energy on three areas: the cockpit, the engine, and the upper wing center = section. For the remainder of the project, I would essentially stick with = the kit parts and procedures. I was able to get the fuselage halves together before the move. Enclosed = is a barely-visible cockpit enhanced by the Eduard PE set with further = mods by yours truly. The update set includes a PE seat and support frame = that more acurately depicts the control stick setup. To this I added the = aileron actuating bar that projects horizontally from either side of the = base of the control stick. To the respective ends I added thin actuating = rods that extend vertically through the forward turtledeck to the upper = wing. =20 The basic engine was painted in SNJ aluminum (gearbox) and Testors = gunmetal (cylinders). I wanted the engine to spin, a la the original, so = I carefully added a length of brass tubing in the firewall. The next = smaller size tubing was glued into a hole drilled in the back of the = engine crankcase. Dry fit reveals that all seems to be centered OK and = spins convincingly inside the cowl. The ProfiPack kit includes a PE = representation of the intake (?) manifolds on the back of the engine, = visible between the cylinders. My AMS wasn't about to accept merely = 2-dimensions, so I measured, cut, folded, painted, and trimmed a piece of = .015 brass tubing for each cylinder. Once these were attached to the = engine, the 3-D effect seems much more convincing to me. The prop appears = overly thick, so I've thinned the blades to a more realistic shape. I = likewise thinned the bottom edge of the cowl to a more scale thickness. = (The engine looks pretty cool inside the cowl when I dry-fit all the = pieces.) Lufbery's plane has the opened center section on the upper wing. Eduard = does a decent job representing this, but I used the fantastic German = drawings of a captured Ni.17 in the Datafile as a reference to improve = this area. In accordance with these drawings, the opening was generally = re-shaped and the center post thinned. I'm now in the process of cutting = the spar sections that are visible in this area. So far, this project has been a total blast. Lower wing should be going = on later this week. The kit is ideal for a first-time OT builder, with = nothing too evil to overcome. The only hitch to date has been the = slightly mismatched fuselage underside. Nothing that a bit of putty and a = sanding block won't fix. I'm hoping to get it finished in time for the = Huntsville contest in October, where I plan on kicking DB's tail if he = dares to venture this far north for such a challenge. ;-) Assuming, of = course, that he doesn't bring his Gotha. Continued thanks to Lance, Matt, and others who have provided guidance = when I've been stumped. Later- KA --=_461C175D.2041089F Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TEXT.htm"
Listees-
Work continues ever-so-slowly on the Eduard 1/48 Ni.17.  (For those who have forgotten or otherwise don't know, this is my first attempt at an OT model.)  SWMBO and I just bought our first house in early June, so the modeling stuff got packed up and neglected for several weeks while we moved.  We're going to a smaller house, so my "toy room," which had been a 12x10 bedroom exclusively devoted to things of the modeling nature, has been consolidated into a "toy area," consisting of a 5-foot table.  "Adapt, improvise, overcome."  That's what I always say.. :-)
 
I decided when I started this project that I would focus my detailing energy on three areas: the cockpit, the engine, and the upper wing center section.  For the remainder of the project, I would essentially stick with the kit parts and procedures.
 
I was able to get the fuselage halves together before the move.  Enclosed is a barely-visible cockpit enhanced by the Eduard PE set with further mods by yours truly.  The update set includes a PE seat and support frame that more acurately depicts the control stick setup.  To this I added the aileron actuating bar that projects horizontally from either side of the base of the control stick.  To the respective ends I added thin actuating rods that extend vertically through the forward turtledeck to the upper wing. 
 
The basic engine was painted in SNJ aluminum (gearbox) and Testors gunmetal (cylinders).  I wanted the engine to spin, a la the original, so I carefully added a length of brass tubing in the firewall.  The next smaller size tubing was glued into a hole drilled in the back of the engine crankcase.  Dry fit reveals that all seems to be centered OK and spins convincingly inside the cowl.  The ProfiPack kit includes a PE representation of the intake (?) manifolds on the back of the engine, visible between the cylinders.  My AMS wasn't about to accept merely 2-dimensions, so I measured, cut, folded, painted, and trimmed a piece of .015 brass tubing for each cylinder.  Once these were attached to the engine, the 3-D effect seems much more convincing to me.  The prop appears overly thick, so I've thinned the blades to a more realistic shape.  I likewise thinned the bottom edge of the cowl to a more scale thickness.  (The engine looks pretty cool inside the cowl when I dry-fit all the pieces.)
 
Lufbery's plane has the opened center section on the upper wing.  Eduard does a decent job representing this, but I used the fantastic German drawings of a captured Ni.17 in the Datafile as a reference to improve this area.  In accordance with these drawings, the opening was generally re-shaped and the center post thinned.  I'm now in the process of cutting the spar sections that are visible in this area.
 
So far, this project has been a total blast.  Lower wing should be going on later this week.  The kit is ideal for a first-time OT builder, with nothing too evil to overcome.  The only hitch to date has been the slightly mismatched fuselage underside.  Nothing that a bit of putty and a sanding block won't fix.  I'm hoping to get it finished in time for the Huntsville contest in October, where I plan on kicking DB's tail if he dares to venture this far north for such a challenge. ;-)  Assuming, of course, that he doesn't bring his Gotha.
 
Continued thanks to Lance, Matt, and others who have provided guidance when I've been stumped.
 
Later-
KA
 
--=_461C175D.2041089F-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:08:41 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Dennis' MS-P Message-ID: <200107311908_MC3-DB11-B45A@compuserve.com> Andrei, >> Great job on the Morane Saulnier P! << Thank you very much. I appreciate all of the comments from the group. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:08:38 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: My Fokker pictures Message-ID: <200107311908_MC3-DB11-B457@compuserve.com> Marcio, Excellent work on the D.VII. Good progress in your modelling. Don't feel bad about the photos not turning out they way you want them to. I spend a small fortune last year on 35mm film for poor to average shots. Use an adjustable lamp to get light between the wings. It makes all of the difference in the world. Keep up the good work and I hope all goes well at the contest. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:08:39 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Morane-Saulnier Type P up and running Message-ID: <200107311908_MC3-DB11-B458@compuserve.com> sp, >> Real neat kit, all the effort paid off. << I liked the kit from the first day I saw it and just thought it would be an easy build. But I am pleased with the results and thank you very much for your comments. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:08:40 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Morane-Saulnier Type P up and running Message-ID: <200107311908_MC3-DB11-B459@compuserve.com> Tom, >> I like both your Nieuport and the Moraine. Thanks for sharing << Thank you very much. The two kits are 26 and 27 as far as Joystick and with the exception of the decals, very nice little kits. The Nieuport pretty much fell together. The decals showed it down. I underestimated the work in the M-S. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:08:32 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Finally, it's compete Message-ID: <200107311908_MC3-DB11-B455@compuserve.com> Len, >> his kit, along with their Phönix D1 apparently, were the subjects of a dispute between Ray Rimell and Joystick << Thank you for the history. I guess I missed that in my reading. I knew something happened but wasn't sure what. It was apparent from early kits to the last one that something changed. Thanks for the comments on the model. It was a beast but a nice looking one. :-) Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:03:51 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: about the French was RE: old mails Message-ID: <3B674767.65D09441@bellsouth.net> Gaston Graf wrote: > If you depart from ELLX in a private aircraft for a cross country flight > over Luxembourg and you accidentally pass the border with France without > having filed a flight plan for it, chances are very very good that you will > be interecepted by a Mirage fighter. This happened already to several > members of our Aerosport club. One was even forced to land at a French > airbase. He was ordered to the office of the base commander and really > feared they will have him paying the fuel bill of the Mirage fighter, or > have him cleaning the runway with his toothbrush or similar, but then the > base commander offered him to forget about the whole thing if he will aggree > to pay a barrel of beer to the pilots of the airbase. Ok, I'm trying to figure out how this is supposed to deter anyone from violating French airspace. Personally, I'd be excited to be in formation with a Mirage, (they're not gonna shoot down a GA bird. Only commies and Americans would do that.), and having a barrel of beer with the pilots of said Mirage afterwards sounds like a hoot. E. who once got into a slow flight competition with the INS Lear Jet just north of Brownsville TX.(heeheeheehee) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:21:41 -0500 From: "P. Howard" To: Subject: Re: Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard Message-ID: <000a01c11a1f$f15878a0$9f9d8ece@phoward> Back when I was trying to decide which one was the better kit to attempt, I came across a couple of real brain twisters. The DML issue is much better in the moldiing department, but weak in realism. (PE struts, lozenge, details). The Eduard is the opposite, but as indicated by others, the engine is utter crap. Flip a coin and pick your poison on these issues. My problem came with the shapes of the kits. The DML is pretty much a dead ringer for the Ian Stair drawings in the Datafile. This is not, IMHO, a sterling recommedation. Stair's drawings of the D. VIII miss some of the shapes and angles of the prototype and are not the ones I'd use to build a model. Phillip Drews did much better drawings of the D.VIII's shape, and they are the ones that most resemble all of the photos I've seen. They also happen to be the drawings that match the Eduard kit's outline. There is of course one fly in this ointment too. The Eduard Wing, although correctly proportioned, is too large for 1/48th scale. They did the wing based on an overall measurement of 8.54 meters instead of the correct 8.45 meters (approx). The basic quandry remains, whose drawings do you believe are more correct as far as shape is concerned, and how close you want the end product to be to the prototype. My $.02 is that to do a good representation of the E.V /D.VIII you need both kits and will need extensive efforts to meld the two. Hope this didn't muddy the issue too much. Cheers, Paul H -----Original Message----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: Re: Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard >Warren,(and Tom) > >Morg17ms@aol.com wrote in response to Warren: > >> Stay away from the Eduard VIII > >Sorry, but I must disagree with Tom. The D-VIII was the first Eduard I >ever built. I haven't built the DML, but I do have one in the kit pile. >But I have seen it built, and built well. The Eduard has some PE details >that the DML doesn't, like a cowl strap and a few others I can't think >of. The DML has a MUCH nicer engine, but has mentioned by another >listee, DML's lozenge is criminal. I would bet that the DML is a lot >less work than the Eduard, but the Eduard can be built in to a very nice >model(if you steal an engine from a DML) :) >My Eduard can be seen at; http://home.xnet.com/~tmblweed/D8Model.html >It was built OOB, (except for the DML engine) and beat that very same >well built DML D-VIII at the local contest one year, wtw. >The best thing to do would be to combine the two. >/%] >E. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:32:56 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: FOR SALE - A national treasure Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD372@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Gday folks: The listserver burps, and brings forth: > > I see your point but this auction is organised by Sotheby's (Snip) .....an email I posted last Saturday (Oz time) Mmmmm. Four days is a record for me. Earl gets models across the world that fast! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:52:26 -0500 From: Edward Swaim To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Squadron: RPM FT 17 $9.99 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010731194243.00a1bb30@aristotle.net> Now that I've ordered one, it is safe to let y'all know that the latest Squadron Mail Order monthly sales flyer has the RPM FT 31 on sale for $9.99. It is sold as the WWII version, but it's the same as the one they sell as the FT 17 with different decals. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:20:40 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Progress Message-ID: <200107312121_MC3-DB11-E6A1@compuserve.com> Everyone, Just to let you know that my latest vacuform is progressing well. The wings are sanded out and ready for inscribing the ribs and control lines. The fuselage is sanded and it fits nicely. I will add the frame work and could have the interior done by late week. I nice kit. Going together well. I don't think I forgot anything. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/30/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:43:35 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard Message-ID: <3B675EC7.A8B1D404@bellsouth.net> Tom Plesha wrote: > Very Nice D-VIII Thanks Tom. If you haven't already done so, check out the rest of that tumbleweed site. Lots of good pics of real OT subjects, including two great photo studies of a Mercedes D-IIIa, and a Curtiss OX-5. There's also(shameless plug alert) pics of three other Fokkers I built before I found this group. E. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:00:02 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Fokker D.VIII and tumbleweed Message-ID: <001001c11a2d$adce1820$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi E- Great work!!!!!!!!!! Beautiful models. I really like your turnbuckles (just one item of many). The models and photos are all great. Thanks for pointing the site out. I bookmarked it for reference. Later Tom S.E.MI. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:20:56 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: old mails Message-ID: Michael said: "I hope that clears this up. BTW, this also explains why even though the French have the fastest trains in the world, they are always late!" Yes, that definitely clears it up. An easier way to explain it would be: This list is really crazy. But cute (to repeat D.´s words)... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:04:06 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: 1/72 scale, struts, weakness Message-ID: <42.185be024.2898bd96@aol.com> For less than 7.50 each I appreciate the Eastern Express kits. One downside is the weakness of the struts - wing and landing gear. Is there any decent alternative to this problem? - Steve di Giacomo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:08:38 -0500 From: ibs4421@commandnet.net To: Subject: Re: German Lozenge Decal Application Message-ID: <002201c11a2e$e20b6560$7f3dfad1@esther> Mike, Thanks for asking this question, as it is something I have wondered about as well, to the point of never attempting it! Might I also ask the learned ones of the list (everyone except me for the most part!) the following in relation to this: Since decals adhere better to a painted, preferably glossy, surface, what color do ya'll normally underpaint that part of the a/c to be lozenge-decaled? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:39:48 EDT From: Stephendigiacomo@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: I know I said I had no time for models. Message-ID: <41.ef471aa.2898c5f4@aol.com> I know I said I had no time to even set up my model work station. Having said that to a few of our list members about two weeks ago. Something happened. I rashly went down to the basement and put the old office desk back together (it was diassembled for the move to our new home). That was about a week ago. I have since built three Phalz D XII's, a DH-4, a Sopwith 4900, most of a DRI and continued work on a SPAD XIII. None of this is presentation quality but the kids like it and I let them play with them - they know they have to be careful, and I'm willing to lose a few models for them to get that lesson down pat. I don't want them to have the view that a model requires months of effort only to wind up with something that can't be touched. (That can come later.) The 4900 is sitting up on little Steve's dresser. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:00:23 -0500 From: ibs4421@commandnet.net To: Subject: Re: I know I said I had no time for models. Message-ID: <007601c11a36$1c70df80$7f3dfad1@esther> Stephen, I haven't cut, glued, or painted plastic in more years than I care to remember, but I want to reclain what was once a very enjoyable and rewarding hobby. I also want to get my son involved, and it won't take much. I have been thinking of getting some of the Roden DVII's and us doing one together, perhaps Goring's scheme. Something we can say we did together. Warren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:47:20 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Re: German Lozenge Decal Application Message-ID: <0C7C351A.565761FC.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Warren, Since the Revell Fokker D.VII is molded in a medium gray plastic, after cleaning and finishing the surfaces, I just sprayed it with a light coat of Future diluted with a little Windex. I'll let you know how it works out. ibs4421@commandnet.net wrote: >Mike, > Thanks for asking this question, as it is something I have >wondered about as well, to the point of never attempting it! Might I also >ask the learned ones of the list (everyone except me for the most part!) the >following in relation to this: > >Since decals adhere better to a painted, preferably glossy, surface, what >color do ya'll normally underpaint that part of the a/c to be >lozenge-decaled? > >Warren > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. 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