WWI Digest 3562 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Finally, it's compete by Dennis Ugulano 2) Stuff on Rolls' page by "Michael Kendix" 3) Junkers CL.I by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 4) Re: Maquette DH9a by "Pedro Soares" 5) Spad SA2 vs. SA4 by Andreikor@aol.com 6) Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard by ibs4421@commandnet.net 7) Re: Junkers CL.I by MAnde72343@aol.com 8) Rigging double wires on Sopwith baby by Sanjeev Hirve 9) Fokker D.VII finished by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 10) seatbelts on Be's by Peter Fedders 11) RE: seatbelts on Be's by "dfernet0" 12) Re: seatbelts on Be's by MAnde72343@aol.com 13) RE: seatbelts on Be's by "dfernet0" 14) RE: Cockpit interiors by "dfernet0" 15) RE: Nieuport 28 markings Re: MoS.type l/Pfalz E.III by "dfernet0" 16) RE: Maquette DH9a by "dfernet0" 17) Holidays time by "Pedro Soares" 18) Pfalz DR1 by "Pedro Soares" 19) RE: WW1 pilot wings/insignia by "Gaston Graf" 20) Re: Pfalz DR1 by "Hans Trauner" 21) Re: Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard by Morg17ms@aol.com 22) Re: Finally, it's compete by "Matt Bittner" 23) Re: Spad SA2 vs. SA4 by "Matt Bittner" 24) Re: Junkers CL.I by Steve Cox 25) Re: Rigging double wires on Sopwith baby by Steve Cox 26) Re: Strut & Prop logos by Steve Cox 27) ebay and the Lloyd Triplane by "Matt Bittner" 28) SPAD help by "Matt Bittner" 29) Re: SPAD help/again by "Tom Plesha" 30) Re: Pfalz DR1 by Dennis Ugulano 31) Pfalz Dr.I Conversion by RadspadMike@netscape.net 32) Re: Pfalz Dr.I Conversion by "Bob Pearson" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:51:51 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Finally, it's compete Message-ID: <200107300752_MC3-DAC9-FDFE@compuserve.com> Matt, >> Glad to hear it's done! Now, let's see it!!! :-) << I have to travel to Bakersfield today but it should be up by tonight. I know your love of French planes and I will be diligent in getting it on line for you. By the way, did you get much done on the Dorand while you were at the Nationals? Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/15/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:44:42 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Stuff on Rolls' page Message-ID: Good work and congrats to those who did the Eduard Albatros kits on Roll Models' page. Excellent work on that wood grain effect - makes me want to attempt it myself. Perhaps I should set aside my childish fear of doing wood grain without wood grain decals. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:17:50 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Junkers CL.I Message-ID: Hi Folks, Does anyone know of a kit, either scale of the Junkers CL.I?? I thought one had been released or talked about a while back?? TIA for any info. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:24:02 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: Subject: Re: Maquette DH9a Message-ID: <001901c11903$7a0615e0$59090dd5@pc1> Anyone has this? Pedro ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: RE: Maquette DH9a > Ray > > > > BTW was there ever an article on how to fix the 504k > > Fuselage. > > Scale Model (later SMIinternational) May 1975 > > Correction article by RLR, plans by Ian Stair (if my index is right!) > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. 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Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:35:39 -0500 From: ibs4421@commandnet.net To: Subject: Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard Message-ID: <002901c11904$e86e7080$813dfad1@esther> Folks, What is the collective wisdom of the list regarding the 1/48th Fokker D VIII kits of Eduard vs. the one made by DML? Would either build into an accurate model? Speaking of DML 1/48th WWI a/c kits, I seem to recall a post in recent weeks in which someone stated that these kits would be re-released again, by another company? Is this right? Warren ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:38:49 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Junkers CL.I Message-ID: The CLI was made as a (Classic Planes?) 1/72 Vac, I've built it, (and goofed by making the landing struts per the Munson illustration.) Not the greatest vac, but it may still be available. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:20:59 -0400 From: Sanjeev Hirve To: "Wwi-List (E-mail)" Subject: Rigging double wires on Sopwith baby Message-ID: <5F935CCBFB73D511BA2000B0D079E11E01C324@cyberexch01.internal.evincible.com> Browsing through the List archives, I gathered a lot of tips and information on rigging double wires, however, I still have a question: what is the gap between the double wires? One posting suggests the gap should be the width of a wire, another suggests the width of a strut. Does this vary with aircrafts, if so, what should it be for the Sopwith baby? The photographs in Windsock suggest that it is probably about 1 inch ( .020 in 1:48 scale). Any advice or reference will be greatly appreciated. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:31:37 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Fokker D.VII finished Message-ID: <001001c11915$1b2fa740$4d1ba8c0@office.br.starmedia.com> Hello, folks! My Revell Fokker D.VII is finished! Well, by far it's the best model I've ever built, I'm proud of it and plan to take it to IPMS Campinas contest in Aug. 25th and 26th. Pictures will come soon. This time you won't see the big seam between fuselage halves, and the landing gear is OK for me (I wasn't so successful with the Roland). Anyway, the model is full of small (and not-so-small) imperfections, but it was supposed to happen, I'm not so worried. First time working with lozenge (kudos to D., who sent me some decals), and I had some troubles with struts between fuselage and top wing, I had to cut them a bit. I really loved the kit, and plan to build some more Revell D.VII's, so this first experience was great to teach me how to deal with the model. Once again, pictures will come soon. The next victim is a Roden Pfalz D.IIIa, which I have already started building. Best regards from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:25:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: models models Subject: seatbelts on Be's Message-ID: Did either the pilot or observer have seatbelts on the Be2c, Be2e, etc?? thanks peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:46:09 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: seatbelts on Be's Message-ID: <035901c11917$227acd20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Yes, IIRC the wide lapbelt type. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Fedders To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: seatbelts on Be's > > Did either the pilot or observer have seatbelts on the Be2c, Be2e, etc?? > > thanks > > peter > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:16:31 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: seatbelts on Be's Message-ID: IIRC, the seatbelts on many RFC planes were not installed at the factory, but were installed at the depots or at the units, there is a well known incident involving, I think a new BE, where a pilot and a writer(?) were killed when thrown from a plane where the seatbelts had not yet been installed. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:27:40 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: seatbelts on Be's Message-ID: <004e01c1191c$ef722b20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Reggie Warneford's accident, perhaps? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: Re: seatbelts on Be's > IIRC, the seatbelts on many RFC planes were not installed at the factory, but > were installed at the depots or at the units, there is a well known incident > involving, I think a new BE, where a pilot and a writer(?) were killed when > thrown from a plane where the seatbelts had not yet been installed. > Merrill > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:50:16 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Cockpit interiors Message-ID: <00bb01c11920$174302c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> My favourite subject! Sometimes I don't like PE detailed cockpits since they stole the fun to detail cockpits by our own, and besides, they look flat. there's some simple principles to detail cockpits -as Shane mentioned before- but I can add some toughts: - Thin fuselage halves as much as you can (no need in your case since you have a vacuform sheel to work with) - Paint as much of the components of the innards as you can before glueing them inside the fuse halves. - Some wooden structure (not easily seen from the cockpit opening) can be made up of pre-painted decal strips. - Many WW1 aircraft have fuel or oil or ammo bins tanks instead of instrument panels that are blank areas that help to hide lack of detail in the cockpit area. - Make instrument cases or ignition switchs from "turned" bits of white styrene sheet on your motor tool. - If you're going to add rudder wires to the rudder bar, glue them to the block of styrene (not visible) under the seat and later trim them to the rudder bar (wich usually is a flimsy assembly) - Read all the articles by RK and Alberto Casirati that you can get. Good luck! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: Cockpit interiors > I am at the point of putting some detail in the vacuform fuselage of the > Comic Camel I'm building. Now this is where I always have trouble. If I am > building one of the wonderful PE filled interiors from Eduard its not a > problem, But when its a standard empty cockpit I always have problems of > what to do to suggest the interior without going to great detail and never > finishing - also in 1/72 most of this stuff can be barely seen. Some of the > problem is over a couple of weeks I forget what I was thinking of adding and > where. > > For the Camel I have resorted to making a couple of drawings and a list (Not > much above stick man level I might add), that way I will remember what I > planned. How do others approach this problem. Of course another problem I > have, is that I procrastinate to much. > > Ray > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:54:57 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Nieuport 28 markings Re: MoS.type l/Pfalz E.III Message-ID: <00e001c11920$bf0358c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks Todd! Just what I wanted to know D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Hayes To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Nieuport 28 markings Re: MoS.type l/Pfalz E.III > Hi D., > > Yes there is the rat terrier in black and gray ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:04:23 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Maquette DH9a Message-ID: <011401c11922$108ad140$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> David! My friend told me that he already started the model. He's quite excited about WW1 modelling, since he has built a lot of kero burners and dull armored vehicles but never found the challenge he has now with this model. It's a complicated model, but judging by his previous efforts he'll do fine with it. Of course he was quite stunned to see that a pilot seat or the undercarriage system can look so simple but yet they present some tricks to be properly built. I guess that he bought the DH9 thinking that it was more familiar to himn to build two seaters and being bigger would be easier to build. How funny he is. By now he hollowed the fuse halves a bit, put some generic wood structure inside and built new seats "a la Casirati" I tried to borrow him "The Master Scratchbuilders" but he chickened out after seeing the cover photo. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Maquette DH9a > > > dfernet0 wrote: > > > Hey! > > Has someone on the list ateempted to build this kit? A friend of mine got a > > smaple and he's quite frightened of it, being his first WW1 subject. Any > > comments? > > TIA > > D. > > This kit owes some heritage to the Frog Wallace (Though it's not a copy or a > retool, as I was led to believe) so it is best to regard it as a 1960s kit and > treat accordingly. Do to it as you would to sat an Airfix RE8. > > I also have the Classic plane vac, and I may combine the two. the biggest > problem with the Maquette kit is that it's a Polikarpov R-1 rather than a DH9A > proper. > > get your friend to get an Airfix Pup or Eduard Albatros as his first WW1. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:56:56 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: "WW1 Modelling list" Subject: Holidays time Message-ID: <002501c11931$fae3a780$7b090dd5@pc1> Gang, see you all in 8 days. Off to Malta for a well deserved week of "dolce fare niente". Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:06:07 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: "WW1 Modelling list" Subject: Pfalz DR1 Message-ID: <003d01c11933$12b40a20$7b090dd5@pc1> Just before I go, some of you might want to take a peep into this: http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_eng_bruun_pfalz.htm Over and out Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:11:06 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: WW1 pilot wings/insignia Message-ID: Friends, the people of this store http://www.derdienst.com sell very nice replicas of all sorts of badges and medals. I bought my PLM from them, as well as the German pilots badge and the E.K.I. The PLM is part of the picture on the entry page to my website. I put it on my scanner and scanned it. They sell Allied stuff as well indeed, from the American Civil War until post WWII. You'll find there all the Nazi badges too, plus things like a silk pilots scarf, Swastika Flags, Imperial German Flag, replicas of German and US hand grenades... The first copy of the PLM that arrived was faulty but they replaced it instantly. happy collecting! Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Drew > Ronayne > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:28 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: OT: WW1 pilot wings/insignia > > > Just searching for a flying helmet on the web and came across > this. Thought > they might be of interest to dress up a display etc: > > http://www.garciaaviation.com/wwone.html > > > Drew > > Andrew Ronayne > NSW Australia > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:39:39 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Pfalz DR1 Message-ID: <007b01c11940$22f57ec0$8ea172d4@FRITZweb> Great work. Highly recommended. BTW, I have built a Pfalz DrI decades ago from the Veeday kit ( A double feature, accompanied by a Albatros D XII), but the results are not worth to be mentioned compared to this beauty. What I am interested in is: Was the Merlin kit so much better than Veeday's? Did anybody out there ever saw both kit and compared them? Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro Soares" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: Pfalz DR1 > Just before I go, some of you might want to take a peep into this: > > http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_eng_bruun_pfalz.htm > > Over and out > > Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:38:25 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker D VIII: DML vs. Eduard Message-ID: <34.18a0f550.28973be1@aol.com> --part1_34.18a0f550.28973be1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stay away from the Eduard VIII - of the dozens and dozens of Eduard kits that I've acquired it is the only one I've ever chucked - one of their earliest products and not at all up to the DML kit. The later builds-up nicely - see the gallery. Tom Morgan --part1_34.18a0f550.28973be1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stay away from the Eduard VIII - of the dozens and dozens of Eduard kits that
I've acquired it is the only one I've ever chucked - one of their earliest
products and not at all up to the DML kit.  The later builds-up nicely - see
the gallery.

Tom Morgan --part1_34.18a0f550.28973be1_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:20:08 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Finally, it's compete Message-ID: <200107302245.PAA13580@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:55:15 -0400 (EDT), Dennis Ugulano wrote: > By the way, did you get much done on the Dorand while you were at > the Nationals? Nope. Best laid plans, and all that. However, on my work-related trip to Vegas, for the most part I finished sanding out the upper wing. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:30:04 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Spad SA2 vs. SA4 Message-ID: <200107302245.PAA14149@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:29:42 -0400 (EDT), Andreikor@aol.com wrote: > I was planning on marking my Roseplane kit with the IRAS skull, and Matt has > pointed out that this machine was actually an SA4. Is this conversion > possible with this kit? Matt, can you help out here? The biggest differences between the 2 and 4: lower wings on the 4 had *no* ailerons. The horizontal tail was different. The 4's fuselage was also longer, but only by 2 inches in real life. Engines could vary from the 80hp to 110hp, but there was no "rule" as to which type had which engine. It appears to be whatever they had on hand, although most did fly with the 110hp. HTH. Looks like you could do it if you scratch a new horiz. tail. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:58:09 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Junkers CL.I Message-ID: Cramercraft made a vac as well, but my notes say it wasn't very good Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:20:45 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Junkers CL.I > > > Hi Folks, > > Does anyone know of a kit, either scale of the Junkers CL.I?? I thought one > had been released or talked about a while back?? TIA for any info. > > Regards, > John > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:58:09 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Rigging double wires on Sopwith baby Message-ID: On the Bristol M1c they were about an inch apart (looking at photos of the Shuttleworth replica). On the SE5A they are about the width of the wire. Baby pictures I have show gap about the width of the wire. HTH Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Sanjeev Hirve > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:28:21 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Rigging double wires on Sopwith baby > > Browsing through the List archives, I gathered a lot of tips and information > on rigging double wires, however, I still have a question: what is the gap > between the double wires? > One posting suggests the gap should be the width of a wire, another suggests > the width of a strut. > Does this vary with aircrafts, if so, what should it be for the Sopwith > baby? The photographs in Windsock suggest that it is probably about 1 inch > ( .020 in 1:48 scale). > Any advice or reference will be greatly appreciated. > regards > SSH > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:08:20 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: WW1 Mail List Subject: Re: Strut & Prop logos Message-ID: After overwhelming demand, thank you Stefan, I've put up some prop logo pictures on my website : Prop Logos on the WW1 models page Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "Stefen Karver" > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 07:41:27 -0400 > To: > Subject: Strut & Prop logos > > G'day, Steve-- > Fri, 27 Jul 2001 00:17:51 +0100 > you posted to WWI Modeling List: > > "I have several pictures of prop logos, if anyone is interested I'll put > them > up on my website. Mail me direct, I'm unsubbing for the weekend." > > I for one would be interested in your doing so. But some months back didn't > somebody (Mike Franklin) collect a bunch of prop and other manufacturer > logos from List members? Whatever happened to that effort? I had thought > he was one of the Alps decal-makers. > Regards, > Stefen > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:18:20 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: ebay and the Lloyd Triplane Message-ID: <200107302316.QAA12638@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Looks like someone doesn't want to build his Meikraft Lloyd Triplane, although quite high priced: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1621319974 Also check out the seller's other auctions. He has a Meikraft SPAD 13, as well... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:29:36 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: SPAD help Message-ID: <200107302327.QAA20411@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I'm looking for scale drawings of the interior of the SPAD 7, specifically the center "console" (better than calling it a floor, I guess) that the seat sits on, and the control stick sits in. I'm getting lazy with the SA.2, and don't want to figure out size and shapes myself. TIA! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:54:03 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: SPAD help/again Message-ID: <000501c11952$e97a3ec0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Matt- I've got some old Wylam plans on an 8 1/2 by 11 page, they are noted to be 1/4=1', would that help. Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: SPAD help > I'm looking for scale drawings of the interior of the SPAD 7, > specifically the center "console" (better than calling it a floor, I > guess) that the seat sits on, and the control stick sits in. I'm > getting lazy with the SA.2, and don't want to figure out size and > shapes myself. TIA! > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:25:42 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Pfalz DR1 Message-ID: <200107302025_MC3-DAEA-62D2@compuserve.com> Hans, >> What I am interested in is: Was the Merlin kit so much better than Veeday's? Did anybody out there ever saw both kit and compared them? << I never knew Veeday did a Pfalz Dr1. I got their first four offerings. If the Dr1 was comparable to the first 4 kits made, then the answer to your question is yes, the Merlin kit is better than the Veeday kit. The Merlin kit was a nice kit and went together well. Then look at the one D just told us about. That is a nice kit. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 7/15/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 20:47:10 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Pfalz Dr.I Conversion Message-ID: <258EFE69.7B08129F.3E0364A1@netscape.net> I just ordered a Spin 1/48 kit from VAMP that converts an Eduard Pfalz IIIa, "later" I suppose, to a Dr.I. Someone referenced a site earlier today that said the Dr.I was largely based on the D.VII which never went into production. The conversion kit only costs $4.00 so it probably only consists of a third wing and some struts. Does anyone know anything about this conversion? TIA, Mike Kavanaugh __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:52:10 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pfalz Dr.I Conversion Message-ID: <3B5F15F200145119@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) That was the first Pfalz triplane .. to test the triplane idea a third wing was added to the basic D.III. . the more familiar Dr.I was based on the D.VII/D.VIII fuselage Bob ---------- >From: RadspadMike@netscape.net >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Pfalz Dr.I Conversion >Date: Mon, Jul 30, 2001, 5:50 pm > > I just ordered a Spin 1/48 kit from VAMP that converts an Eduard Pfalz > IIIa, "later" I suppose, to a Dr.I. Someone referenced a site earlier > today that said the Dr.I was largely based on the D.VII which never went > into production. The conversion kit only costs $4.00 so it probably only > consists of a third wing and some struts. Does anyone know anything about > this conversion? > > TIA, > Mike Kavanaugh > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3562 **********************