WWI Digest 3535 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: NATS pictures by "Lance Krieg" 2) Re: decals by "Lance Krieg" 3) PC 12 RNAS Camels by "Lance Krieg" 4) Re: NATS pictures by "Brent Theobald" 5) Re: Rumey's (?) Demon-head Alb by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: Belgian Fokker DVII by "Tom Plesha" 7) Re: decals by "Tom Plesha" 8) Re: My web site - be my guests by "Tom Plesha" 9) RE: Rumey's (?) Demon-head Alb by Shane Weier 10) RE: and 425/17 by Shane Weier 11) Starstrutter help by "Pedro Soares" 12) Re: Starstrutter help/again by "Tom Plesha" 13) Re: Belgian Fokker DVII by "Matt Bittner" 14) Keith Ward's Dr.I: by Robert Horton 15) FW: Mac back at NKR by Shane Weier 16) Re: Keith Ward's Dr.I: by Eli Geher 17) Re: FW: Mac back at NKR by Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au 18) Re: PC-12 Camel by Marc Flake 19) Re: and 425/17 by KarrArt@aol.com 20) Re: Starstrutter help by Karen Rychlewski 21) Re: Nats Pics by "Chris Cato" 22) Re: NATS pictures by "Chris Cato" 23) Philipe's latest by Andreikor@aol.com 24) Windsock 17/4. by "Len Smith" 25) Rosemont vs Aeroclub WWI 1/72 accessories by "Jeff Wilson" 26) Re: Rosemont vs Aeroclub WWI 1/72 accessories by "Bob Pearson" 27) Re: Rosemont vs Aeroclub WWI 1/72 accessories by "Jeff Wilson" 28) Re: two tone Ni 11 colours by "Alberto Casirati" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:25:38 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: RE: NATS pictures Message-ID: People are despairing over the superb quality of: "... the Klimke Dr.I and the [Bolle] D.VII on page 2..." Take heart! These are both 1/28. The triplane was the "Mike Fritz" award winner for WWI aviation. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:30:13 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: decals Message-ID: Tom wants a way to get to Americal/Gryphon: Surface mail only, at this address: 4373 Varsity Lane Houston, TX 77004-6617 The catalog is available on-line at Matt Bittner's site - URL escapes me - or from the address above for $1.00 or three 1st class stamps. HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:43:03 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: PC 12 RNAS Camels Message-ID: Marc was seeking opinions on Naval Camels, specifically N5 the 2F.1 prototype: Sturdevant and Page, in "The Camel File" offer a clear picture of this plane with LePrieur rockets taken at Grain in June, 1917, and have a 1/48 drawing dedicated to this aircraft, as it differed from production machines. In the same book, Mick Davis opines that these were indeed PC 12 (as specified by Sopwith), and goes on to describe the usual Sopwith finishing practices. These are borne out by the Grain photo. This information is echoed in the Fabric Special on British planes by WIndsock, who quote Sopwith Drawing D2037 of February 5, 1917: "Topside to receive 5 coats of Cellon Dope and 2 coats of PC12 (Pigment Brown)..." Note that many 2F.1s were Beardmore built, and so differed substantially. For some reason, I spaced off looking into the New Schiffer book on British squadron markings, but would not expect further evidence to shed much more light. If you want something more... let me know. Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:48:49 +0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: NATS pictures Message-ID:

Howdy!

>Sopwith Pup - Brent Theobold?

>Albatros D.V - Brent Theobold

Yup, those are mine. That is, if the Albatros is the black bodied bird with flag along the side. I also had a Soviet Sopwith Snipe named Nelly out there. I don't know if any pictures of that were taken.

Thanks!
 
Brent


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------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:29:40 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rumey's (?) Demon-head Alb Message-ID: <3B55183A0006F6EC@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) GVW did the colour references for the Osprey books, so if it isn't in there anything he might say is total speculation that wasn't ready for print. Bob ---------- > I agree - looks like an interesting scheme and I love to render it, I'm > planning on trying another J5 scene anyway. > I did see this picture in the Osprey book but passed on it because I > figured there wasn't enough info. As I recall the text gives some > info/speculation on the color scheme on the fuse - I think it has some sort > of pattern, to be sure it's pretty subtle and dark > In any case > If anyone has more info on this AC I'd like to see it > > Mark > > > > Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! > http://www.shopping.altavista.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:00:08 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Belgian Fokker DVII Message-ID: <000d01c11095$cb041b20$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Philippe- Another success! Beautiful DVII. Thanks for sharing. Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philippe Spriesterbach" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:28 PM Subject: Belgian Fokker DVII > Hi, Dear Members of the mad house, > > I added a new models on my models page : Belgian Fokker DVII based on > old Revell kit. > > Best regards to all from Belgium > > > Philippe Spriesterbach > philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be > http://home.pi.be/~p4u09886 > IPMS Belgium Member #F015 > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:04:55 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: decals Message-ID: <001d01c11096$76442200$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Those who responded- Thanks for the help. I wanted to verify the prices before ordering. I have the catalogue I just wasn't sure if there was a change in prices. Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Krieg" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: Re: decals > Tom wants a way to get to Americal/Gryphon: > > Surface mail only, at this address: > > 4373 Varsity Lane > Houston, TX 77004-6617 > > The catalog is available on-line at Matt Bittner's site - URL escapes me - or from the address above for $1.00 or three 1st class stamps. > > HTH > > Lance > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 11:15:54 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: My web site - be my guests Message-ID: <003501c11065$b46bf5c0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Marcio- Thanks, its great. Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: RE: My web site - be my guests > Doh! > > So many things to tell that I forgot the main thing: > > www.modelismo-ww1.cjb.net > > Marcio Antonio Campos > Redator do GuiaSP > StarMedia do Brasil > marcio.campos@starmedia.net > http://www.guiasp.com.br > http://www.guiarj.com.br > http://www.nacidade.com.br > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf > > Of Gaston > > Graf > > Sent: Quinta-feira, 19 de Julho de 2001 12:05 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: My web site - be my guests > > > > > > Marcio meu amigo, > > > > you should give us your URL if you want us to visit your site :o). Be > > heartily welcome in the ranks of the webmasters. You'll soon > > discover how > > addictive the website building can be - it's almost like modeling. > > > > good luck with your site > > > > Gaston Graf > > (ggraf@vo.lu) > > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On > > Behalf Of Marcio > > > Antonio Campos > > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:34 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > > Subject: My web site - be my guests > > > > > > > > > Hello, folks! > > > > > > I proudly present not the dinner, but my web site, "A > > Grande Guerra nos > > > Céus" (something like "The Great War in the Skies"). > > > > > > Of course you won't see more kits than that Roland you've already > > > seen. The > > > attractions aren't models, but some of the funniest > > drawings on the Web, > > > made by our friend D. > > > > > > Don't forget to sign the Guestbook, although some of you won't > > > understand a > > > single word (it's in Portuguese, of course. There are so many > > > good modeling > > > sites in English, but none in Brazil). > > > > > > I added links to some web sites of list members, and I apologize > > > if i forgot > > > someone. Just contact me off-list and I'll fix it. And, > > please, tell me if > > > you find something wrong with links or information, and > > also to suggest > > > links I've forgotten. > > > > > > You'll also notice that above the "credits" there's a space for > > > banners. If > > > you have a banner (480x60) for your site, just send me and I'll > > > put it in a > > > page. > > > > > > And, last but not least, I want to include my site in the ring. > > > How can I do > > > this, Peter? > > > > > > With best regards from Brazil > > > > > > Marcio Antonio Campos > > > Redator do GuiaSP > > > StarMedia do Brasil > > > marcio.campos@starmedia.net > > > http://www.guiasp.com.br > > > http://www.guiarj.com.br > > > http://www.nacidade.com.br > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:17:41 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Rumey's (?) Demon-head Alb Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD2AF@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Volker says (in reply to Stef) > >See http://209.235.66.44/WW1/Germans/Pilots/JPGS/Rumey_05.jpg > >for an intriquingly suggestive (what's new in WWI aircraft > >photography, eh?) photograph. > And right here it is: The > picture is also on page 22 of the Osprey Albatros Aces book. Attributed > there to Greg van Wyngarden, who might be able to tell more about this > aircraft. Now that one would really be an alternative to "those usual > Albatroses" > Is there a decal for this aircraft on the A/G Jasta 5 sheet? It's pretty familiar. I suggest that Glen Merrill might be as good a source as anyone regarding this particular aircraft. Or wait for the Jasta 5 special from Albatros Pubs which will probably cover it Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:22:21 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: and 425/17 Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD2B0@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> RK says: > You want US to check for amazing stupidity?????? Such faith! Not misplaced. I'm absolute tops at amazing stupidity. Shane (Don't ask! Suffice it that after 4 hours modelling last night i was further back than when I started :-( ) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:31:00 +0100 From: "Pedro Soares" To: "WW1 Modelling list" Subject: Starstrutter help Message-ID: <006201c110a3$96744340$6c090dd5@pc1> Hi Guys, anyone with the "Air aces of the AH Army" FMP book care to check if there is any photo or top view of 28.40? I need to know wehere the crosses go on the wings. Does the lower arm of the cross cover the side hinge of the aileron, or are the crosses placed further inward, completely "liberating" the aileron? TIA Pedro ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:58:53 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Starstrutter help/again Message-ID: <000e01c110a6$62546c40$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Pedro- I could not find any top viewsof 28.40 in the A-H Air Aces Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pedro Soares" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: Starstrutter help > Hi Guys, > > anyone with the "Air aces of the AH Army" FMP book care to check if there is > any photo or top view of 28.40? I need to know wehere the crosses go on the > wings. Does the lower arm of the cross cover the side hinge of the aileron, > or are the crosses placed further inward, completely "liberating" the > aileron? > > TIA > > Pedro > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:53:49 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Belgian Fokker DVII Message-ID: <200107192351.QAA11485@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 16:28:36 -0400 (EDT), Philippe Spriesterbach wrote: > I added a new models on my models page : Belgian Fokker DVII based on > old Revell kit. Looks great! Keep it up! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 19:17:40 -0500 From: Robert Horton To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Keith Ward's Dr.I: Message-ID: <3B5778A3.CD7F98C9@netexpress.net> Hi Listees: I was going to reply about the Dr.I Keith Ward had built but several have already come back with the builders name so that takes care of that. He is a lcoal Chicago guy and brought it to the C and C meeting Saturday so we got a second look at it...but this guy is incredible...he also brought another entry of his, a 1/8th scale dirt track sprint car...I thought it had to be a Pocher kit that I had never seen before...but it was entirely scratch built....I think it took an award in the auto class but am not sure...just FWIW...Bob Horton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:54:31 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: FW: Mac back at NKR Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD2B3@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hi all, For those who missed out on MAC kits from Earl and were worried about whether "limited run" meant they might miss out, I present the following, straight from Earl: > The following Mac kits are back in stock > (for those who missed out last > time):- > 72033 Roland D.V1a @$19 > 72034 Roland D.V1b @$19 > 72035 Phoenix D.1 @$18 > 72036 Phoenix D.11 @$18 All prices are A$, but FWIW today these kits are US$8.43 and US$8.90 respectively (excluding the 10% GST not payable if exported) Buy up ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 19:57:36 -0500 From: Eli Geher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Keith Ward's Dr.I: Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010719195314.02255190@mail.hiwaay.net> At 08:15 PM 7/19/01 -0400, Robert Horton wrote: >Hi Listees: I was going to reply about the Dr.I Keith Ward had built >but several have already come back with the builders name so that takes >care of that. He is a lcoal Chicago guy and brought it to the C and C >meeting Saturday so we got a second look at it...but this guy is >incredible...he also brought another entry of his, a 1/8th scale dirt >track sprint car...I thought it had to be a Pocher kit that I had never >seen before...but it was entirely scratch built....I think it took an >award in the auto class but am not sure...just FWIW...Bob Horton It took its class plus Best Auto. Mr. Ward had a very good night. Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:09:15 +1000 From: Neil.Eddy@dhs.vic.gov.au To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: FW: Mac back at NKR Message-ID: Shane; I'll be hunting those phoenixes ....Get 'em while they're hot.... : )) Neil E. Shane Weier Sent by: cc: wwi@wwi-model Subject: FW: Mac back at NKR s.org 20/07/2001 10:59 AM Please respond to wwi Hi all, For those who missed out on MAC kits from Earl and were worried about whether "limited run" meant they might miss out, I present the following, straight from Earl: > The following Mac kits are back in stock > (for those who missed out last > time):- > 72033 Roland D.V1a @$19 > 72034 Roland D.V1b @$19 > 72035 Phoenix D.1 @$18 > 72036 Phoenix D.11 @$18 All prices are A$, but FWIW today these kits are US$8.43 and US$8.90 respectively (excluding the 10% GST not payable if exported) Buy up ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:34:20 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PC-12 Camel Message-ID: <3B578A9C.7F9F@airmail.net> I looked a little closer in the "Camel File" and found what I needed. More on this later. Thanks, Lance. The search is over. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:33:29 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: and 425/17 Message-ID: <123.1e61ed6.2888f279@aol.com> In a message dated 7/19/01 3:24:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << RK says: > You want US to check for amazing stupidity?????? Such faith! Not misplaced. I'm absolute tops at amazing stupidity. Shane >> It's the checking part! I have no trouble doing stupid things my own sweet self........ No one will ever see the old painting of a post-Sopwith airplane I attempted to redo this week. RK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:32:38 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Starstrutter help Message-ID: <3B57A656.F6103C16@earthlink.net> Pedro Soares wrote: > Hi Guys, > > anyone with the "Air aces of the AH Army" FMP book care to check if there is > any photo or top view of 28.40? I need to know wehere the crosses go on the > wings. Does the lower arm of the cross cover the side hinge of the aileron, > or are the crosses placed further inward, completely "liberating" the > aileron? Hi Pedro A quick shuffle through the FMP Brandenburg D.I book turned up no photos of the topside of 28.40. However, a photo of 28.37 shows the lower leg of the cross over the side edge of the aileron, and according to the book's aircraft histories, 28.40 was delivered 7 days later than 28.37; so a case could be made for the two planes having the same cross arrangement. On the other hand, 28.40 went to Flik 41/J in May, 1917, and a photo taken in July, 1917, of a lineup of 41/J's planes shows all the crosses completely inboard of the ailerons. So, go figure... In the absence of photographic evidence, I would personally go with the second photo and match the cross to the others in its Flik, but dicta ira applies Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:15:03 -0500 From: "Chris Cato" To: Subject: Re: Nats Pics Message-ID: <03d501c110d4$1173d6c0$8c381004@Chris.netzero.net> Neil spoke: >of mine); the Halberstadt CLIII (?) on Pg 2, the Curtis (?) Floatplane, and >the aircraft next to the display in the television - what is that? Also I believe that little guy is the VLE Models Fokker Spinne. Beauty of a kit with white metal and PE parts and vac wings and tail feathers. I believe they are out of production but Bob at VLE might have parts for a few left. He was able to get all the parts together for one for me about 6 months ago or so... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:16:38 -0500 From: "Chris Cato" To: Subject: Re: NATS pictures Message-ID: <03d601c110d4$12fd8400$8c381004@Chris.netzero.net> Brent html'ed: >

Yup, those are mine. That is, if the Albatros is the black bodied bird with flag along the side. I also had a Soviet Sopwith Snipe named Nelly out there. I don't know if any pictures of that were taken.

Alas I don't think I got a good shot of Nelly - beautiful work though! Perhaps Karen got one? Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:41:50 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Philipe's latest Message-ID: <55.1897fbca.2889108e@aol.com> Philipe wrote: << I added a new models on my models page : Belgian Fokker DVII based on old Revell kit. >> http://home.pi.be/~p4u09886 Lovely job, Philipe! Very unusual scheme... nice to see something different with that venerable old bird! Keep up the great work.... Cheers, Andrei Andrei Koribanics II 8 Falcon Place Wayne, NJ 07470 USA Voice/Fax: 973-696-9378 email: andreikor@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 05:46:44 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Windsock 17/4. Message-ID: <001001c110d7$1e9e7a00$2a5c08c3@mesh> Greetings, The latest Windsock arrived yesterday, and appears to herald a takeover by the list. An article by Alberto on Italian Macchi and Nieuport monoplanes ably supported by Bob Pearson's colour profiles, and letters from Matt and Dennis. Plus some marvelous Tony Woolett 1/28 masterpieces, a piece of German fabric, a Pfalz DVIII to be restored and a twin tailed SE5a. But for me, and I suspect some other oddity-loving listees, is the feature on and plans of the Robey Peters RRF 25. Designed to carry the Davis gun, it had a pulpit/fighting top in and under each top wing and a pilot sitting well back just in front of the tail. One of the two that were built finished its life on the roof of an Insane Asylum, seems fitting somehow, Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:13:53 +1000 From: "Jeff Wilson" To: Subject: Rosemont vs Aeroclub WWI 1/72 accessories Message-ID: Hi All, I'm seeking some form of consensus on the better quality accessory bits (wheels, guns, seats, props etc.) in 1/72. It doesn't bother me working in resin or metal, so the material is not the issue, just the general quality of Rosemont vs Aeroclub. Any takers for sides? BTW, has anyone figured out where the Aeroclub website has gone? http://www.aeroclubmodels.co.uk/ The above seems to be a web hosting site of sorts. Ideas? Best, Jeff (I wanted to build two Esci D.VII's OOTB, but I just couldn't get past the caricatures they offer for guns, prop and wheels...) Jeffrey Wilson Photography Unit Research School of Biological Sciences Australian National University Acton, Canberra, ACT, 0200 Phone +61 (0)2 6125 3635 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:38:31 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rosemont vs Aeroclub WWI 1/72 accessories Message-ID: <3B5776750000DE2A@mail.san.yahoo.com> (added by postmaster@mail.san.yahoo.com) I'd say that Rosemont is better than Aeroclub. Aeroclub is sort of comparable to the Revell Dr.I, while Rosemont/Roseparts/Roseplane is the new Eduard one. Both are nice .. just one is a tad nicer Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:10:32 +1000 From: "Jeff Wilson" To: Subject: Re: Rosemont vs Aeroclub WWI 1/72 accessories Message-ID: Thanks Bob. I'd half figured that, just wanted some confirmation. Jeff >>> bpearson@rapidnet.net - 20/7/01 3:48 PM >>> I'd say that Rosemont is better than Aeroclub. Aeroclub is sort of comparable to the Revell Dr.I, while Rosemont/Roseparts/Roseplane is the new Eduard one. Both are nice .. just one is a tad nicer Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:13:59 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: Re: two tone Ni 11 colours Message-ID: <001301c110e3$44701020$9ee422d4@s> As for the two-tone French camouflage scheme colours, and as Matt said, Mister Kit produce them, together with the relevant light blue undersurfaces colour. They may be a little surprise to many, as their shades are different from the ones usually found in colour profiles. I was helped in my researches by two most notable experts: Allan Toelle and Bernard Klayéle. Alberto Casirati Honorary Keeper Aviation Section Bergamo Historical Museum www.museostoricobg.org Alberto Casirati Honorary Keeper Aviation Section Bergamo Historical Museum www.museostoricobg.org ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3535 **********************