WWI Digest 3524 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Czech Master and Lueddeman Resins by Todd Hayes 2) Comparisons, was Re: Nice Dr.I by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: CzechMaster DH5 by "cameron rile" 4) Re: CzechMaster DH5 (and other Czechmasters) by Volker Haeusler 5) Re: Czech Master and Lueddeman Resins by Volker Haeusler 6) Re: 'fessin up was: Re: Evil, evil list members by "Matt Bittner" 7) Re: OT R/C Alert by REwing@aol.com 8) Re: OT R/C Alert by "Matt Bittner" 9) Re: Rolls Royce Eagle VIII by "David C. Fletcher" 10) Re: Comparisons, was Re: Nice Dr.I by "Tom Solinski" 11) Re: Vacation and a trip to the Heretic by "Tom Solinski" 12) Re: OT R/C Alert by "Tom Solinski" 13) Re: Nice Dr.I/again by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 14) Re: Nice Dr.I by Ernest Thomas 15) OFF LIST RE: Nice Dr.I by "dfernet0" 16) RE: Vacation and a trip to the Heretic by "Gaston Graf" 17) RE: Neiuport Cookup by Shane Weier 18) RE: Nats clarification by Shane Weier 19) Re: Neiuport Cookup by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 20) RE: Nats clarification by Shane Weier 21) RE: Comparisons, was Re: Nice Dr.I by Shane Weier 22) RE: Nice Dr.I by Shane Weier 23) Re: Nice Dr.I/again by "Dale Sebring" 24) Nieuport Throttle Question by "Steven Perry" 25) Re: OFF LIST RE: Nice Dr.I by "Dale Sebring" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:28:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Czech Master and Lueddeman Resins Message-ID: <20010714012801.55344.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> You can get them in 1:48 if you're willing to spend $81 for the Master Club Sikorskii S.16. It's a phenomenal resin kit for a high price. www.aviapress.com Todd --- Allen H Besser wrote: > Wow, spoked wheels!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now if we can > only get some in the > REAL scale! > > Al Besser > -----Original Message----- > From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com > > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: Czech Master and Lueddeman Resins > > > > > >Thanks Hans!!! > >I think that is all I needed to hear!!! Man, if > they do spoked wheels > in > >resin, the kits must be great... > > > >Regards, > >John > > > > > > > > "Hans Trauner" > > Multiple recipients > of list > > efkom.net> > > > Sent by: cc: > > wwi@wwi-models. Subject: > Re: Czech > Master and Lueddeman Resins > > org > > > > > > 07/13/01 02:23 > > PM > > Please respond > > to wwi > > > > > > > > > > > > > >John, > >Volker has bought a couple of Luddeman's and showed > it to me on his > visit > >in > >Germany. Unbelievable. Have you seen any spoked > wheels before? In > resin? In > >1/72? What until Volker has wakened up. He is full > of praise for > Luddeman > >( and Czechmaster). > > > >Hans > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > >Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 7:54 PM > >Subject: Czech Master and Lueddeman Resins > > > > > >> > >> Hi Folks, > >> I'm getting ready to order some kits from Detlef > Schorsch and wanted > to > >get > >> a few opinions about a couple of kits. Can you > folks tell me how good > the > >> following are: > >> > >> CzechMaster > >> Junkers J.I/J.4 > >> De Havilland DH5 Airco > >> > >> Lueddeman Resins > >> Lloyd C.V > >> Sablatning SF.2 > >> Hansa Brandenburg C.I UFAG > >> Junkers J.1 > >> Lohner B.II > >> > >> Thanks for any help!! > >> > >> Regards, > >> John > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:27:32 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Comparisons, was Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <3B4FAE14.3E399AD2@bellsouth.net> "Lee M." wrote: > Remember Europe is not like Australia and the Americas. From Holland to > Switzerland is about like crossing Texas. Lee's right. Except for the mountains, Texas and Europe are virtually identical. :-) Diving back in my hole... E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:35:13 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: CzechMaster DH5 Message-ID: <8AA52BEF3F775D115A960005B80A2E33@cameron.prontomail.com> John, >Thanks Cameron for the info!!! No worries. >The price on the list Detlef sent is 26.90DM, >approx 11.75USD. That has got me seeing and uttering Ernie red (%^$@%$#). I think I paid $10 and it was warped from being in someones collection for a while. I guess the moral is not to impulse buy at a local meeting. >:( cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:17:53 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: CzechMaster DH5 (and other Czechmasters) Message-ID: <008901c10c13$c0ad9d80$7f01010a@jaring.my> Cam said: > >The price on the list Detlef sent is 26.90DM, > >approx 11.75USD. > > That has got me seeing and uttering Ernie red > (%^$@%$#). I think I paid $10 and it was warped > from being in someones collection for a while. I > guess the moral is not to impulse buy at a local > meeting. > >:( > I said it already before, and can only repeat it: The prices that Detlef Schorsch has for Czechmaster stuff are difficult to beat. IIRC, the Junkers J4/J I costs around the same in German Marks as it costs in US $ in the US (at the only dealer I found it at this time). And the Mark is at 43 or so cents only... However, be prepared for some rather slow service - it might take some time before you get some feedback, and also before you get the stuff. The Modellbaustudio is a one man operation, and going very strong, so that some longer reaction times result. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:30:40 +0800 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Czech Master and Lueddeman Resins Message-ID: <009501c10c15$5bc57bc0$7f01010a@jaring.my> John, > > Hi Folks, > I'm getting ready to order some kits from Detlef Schorsch and wanted to get > a few opinions about a couple of kits. Can you folks tell me how good the > following are: > > CzechMaster > Junkers J.I/J.4 > De Havilland DH5 Airco > > Lueddeman Resins > Lloyd C.V > Sablatning SF.2 > Hansa Brandenburg C.I UFAG > Junkers J.1 > Lohner B.II > > Thanks for any help!! > as already said by Hans, I'm more than enthusiastic about the Luedemann stuff. See also the Inertnert Modeller discussion of these kits. The wings of the Taubes are unbelievable. Some remarks on those kits that I know: The Junkers J 4: Older Czechmaster kit, still extremely good. Nice depiction of the corrugations Sablatnik SF 2: You will be extremely surprised about the span of this beast. The resin Luedemann uses (I Think Cyg mentions he it's probably the same he used for the Paschendaele stuff) allows extremely long, thin and nonetheless stable wings. Just incredible. I sent the SF 5 (nearly the same aircraft) to Andrei, so he might be able to confirm that. Lohner B II: Again an extremely nice kit, suberb wings and details Junkers J 1: Actually no Luedemann, but Detlef Schorsch's own Classic Plane vac. Cleverly designed kit. The "series production" is actually done by "Czechmaster", with Detlef Schorsch's masters. He also got a resin Junkers J 2 by now. My own kit has a small problem in the rear fuselage area due to (it seems) some mold mismatch during pouring the resin, but it's soimething that is easily repairable and will might well be a one of. However, there will definitely be a mold match line to be removed on the fuselage. No major stuff, though. My conclusion: Get those kits. Add a Taube to them - they are even better. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:17:32 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: 'fessin up was: Re: Evil, evil list members Message-ID: <200107140315.UAA00525@swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:34:01 -0400 (EDT), Steven Perry wrote: > Welcome back Matt, we sure did miss you while you were away, but that's not > to say we didn't have some fun with you at the same time. ;-) Thanks. Gee, I guess I am flattered! All this for little 'ol me! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:20:11 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT R/C Alert Message-ID: --part1_b7.10a490bb.2881146b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Thanks Rick. >All this balsa butchering going on bodes ill for my wallet. >Maybe I oughta quick go build something French in 1/72 scale ;-) >sp DON'T DO IT, STEVE!!! Come back from the edge! Things will get better. Remember, friends don't let friends "build something French in 1/72 scale!" ;^} -Rick- List Librarian --part1_b7.10a490bb.2881146b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Thanks Rick.
>All this balsa butchering going on bodes ill for my wallet.
>Maybe I oughta quick go build something French in 1/72 scale ;-)
>sp

DON'T DO IT, STEVE!!!  Come back from the edge!  Things will get better.  
Remember, friends don't let friends "build something French in 1/72 scale!"
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--part1_b7.10a490bb.2881146b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:26:50 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: OT R/C Alert Message-ID: <200107140324.UAA29640@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> DON'T DO IT, STEVE!!! Come back from the edge! Things will get better. Remember, friends don't let friends "build something French in 1/72 scale!" :-P``````` Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 20:31:45 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rolls Royce Eagle VIII Message-ID: <3B4FBD21.4070501@mars.ark.com> Lance Krieg wrote: > Thanks to all who sent me pictures, plans, and book references. Now if I can just make myself get busy... One more: there is a RR Eagle on display in the Western Canada Aviation Museum in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Any listees close by "Winterpeg"? Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:29:34 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Comparisons, was Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <004b01c10c15$33ae6c00$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> > Lee's right. Except for the mountains, Texas and Europe are virtually > identical. :-) > Actually Ernie you're right, the Texans even speak different languages from one side of the state to the other! diving too just north of Texas (in the GREAT STATE of OKLAHOMA) Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:36:32 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Vacation and a trip to the Heretic Message-ID: <006601c10c16$2ceb0c60$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> We plan a trip to the US for the next year and will maybe go the Orlando as well. > How big is the parc? Gaston the entire Orlando area is developed for fun by many companies so the litterall answer to your question is "just a liitle smaller than Luxembourgh." Disney World alone can consume 10 days just to do everything they have to offer. And that still leaves Universal studios, Sea world etc. Are there Hotels in it, etc? yes, some of them are attractions all on thier own. I suggest you get on the internet or get a good travel guide book and plan what you're going to do. Then see a good travel agent and see what sort of deal they can get in the Disney run hotesl in the park. And If your schedule is flexible, check the NASA web site and see if you can be in FL the same week a Space Shuttle launch is scheduled for. it's only an hour drive from Orlando. Now Back to Fokkers. Albs. and Sopwiths! Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 22:37:36 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: OT R/C Alert Message-ID: <006d01c10c16$53725460$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> Steve, Peanut scale indoor rubber lies between 1/32 and 1/24! Tom S ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:28 PM Subject: Re: OT R/C Alert > DON'T DO IT, STEVE!!! Come back from the edge! Things will get > better. > Remember, friends don't let friends "build something French in 1/72 > scale!" > > :-P``````` > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 23:35:46 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I/again Message-ID: >Hi Dale- >No luck with me either. >Later >Tom > > http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/MartinGastel/ I cut the url back to the above which brought up an index like page. From there I clicked on the line that said Revell Dr.1.html The article dropped in just fine. Great pics and a nice article. John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 00:57:57 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <3B4FDF65.118B9344@bellsouth.net> Shane Weier wrote: > > http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/MartinGastel/RevellDr1. > htm Real dang nice! E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:50:10 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: OFF LIST RE: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <00ef01c10bc4$43191f60$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Dale! Thanks! but I have too many kits to build and the big Dr.1 is low on the pile... It'll probably be one of those long term projects to do in and out or in between two tiny planes. Thanks anyway for your generosity. Just yesterday I was fondling again the decals you sent me. What a great set... it almost make me undecided if I'm gonna do the shark-mouthed N28 or any other, but I keep thinking that's the best scheme. i'll probably put a strange colour to the cowl since the exact hue of it is unknown Did the URL trick I sent you worked fine? D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Sebring To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I > > > Robet wrote: > > > I still love this kit- it's got POTENTIAL! > > > > And I'm glad I got one (the hobbycraft release) in exchange for an extra > "In > > Action" title! Good deal, huh? > > D. > > > D, would you like a Revell too? > > Dale > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:16:44 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Vacation and a trip to the Heretic Message-ID: OOOPS.... thanks Tom, but I now realized that my mail to you was going to the list insteat of going off list to you. Sorry folks, I forgot to remove the list address and replace it with Tom's Gasterix > > We plan a trip to the US for the next year........... > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:43:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD26B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> > Ray Boorman wrote: > > > > Yup right Shane, so are you going to blame Lorna !!! ;0) > >Shane the Younger replied: > > Do I look stupid mate ;-) > Oooh Ooooh... Can I answer, can I answer ? ;-) Shane (the elder and wiser) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:47:45 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Nats clarification Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD26C@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > For some reason I tend to put more effort > into my French birds than I do my "other" ones. :-) Obviously. They need the help. Shane ;-) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:55:32 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <3B503334.EBF0E1E3@tac.com.au> Shane Weier wrote: > > > Ray Boorman wrote: > > > > > > Yup right Shane, so are you going to blame Lorna !!! ;0) > > > > >Shane the Younger replied: > > > > Do I look stupid mate ;-) > > > > Oooh Ooooh... Can I answer, can I answer ? > > ;-) Only after you get the coffee table for your 1/48 Staaken mate ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:51:04 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Nats clarification Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD26D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Matt says: > Whoops. However, didn't they call the split "German"? Or did > they actually call it "Axis"? Now I can't remember... They shouldn't. Anachronism of course, since the Axis was the second go around. Not that non-followers of the one true path would care. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 21:52:32 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Comparisons, was Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD26E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> EtH says: > Lee's right. Except for the mountains, Texas and Europe are virtually > identical. :-) Exackerly. Tiny places. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 22:03:48 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD270@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Jay says: > > All that being said, if nothing else it can tell you plus or minus 20 > degrees which way you're headed, and I still can't imagine > the thinking > process that would decide to leave it on the ground. You're looking at it from a late 20th and early 21st century perspective. They left a LOT of things on the ground you'd never even consider leaving behind, and took up a lot of things you wouldn't (dodgy airfames, unreliable engines , minimal power, low endurance, etc) I don't know that it's so obvious that someone flying, even as late as 1917, necessarily believes he *must* carry a compass when in company with Jasta members or over his own lines *especialy* on the German side where shortages were starting to be felt Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 06:52:49 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I/again Message-ID: <001d01c10c63$e3feb260$8eb58dd0@main> > >Hi Dale- > >No luck with me either. > >Later > >Tom > > > > http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/MartinGastel/ > > I cut the url back to the above which brought up an index like page. > From there I clicked on the line that said Revell Dr.1.html The > article dropped in just fine. Great pics and a nice article. > John Many thakns John, that DR.1 is outstanding!!! Dale ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 08:58:24 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Nieuport Throttle Question Message-ID: <001701c10c64$ab26e380$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> What colors for the throttle quadrant assembly? I'm leaning toward metal rails, wooden cross pieces w/metal fasteners, brass quadrant and black throttle lever. Anyone know for sure? I'm building the Eduard Nie.23 (non-profi) kit. It has a plastic throttle quadrant of the characteristic Nieuport design. Nice detail, but the empty spaces in the quadrant and beween the rails is filled in with styrene. An easy scratch job of a half hour or less to replace it I know. So I figured I'd try to remove the unwanted plastic and use the kit piece just to see if it could be done. I sanded the back of the piece utill it was real thin, then drilled and carved out the spaces. Only took twice as long as scratchbuilding one ;-). Any help on the colors would be appreciated sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 06:59:42 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: OFF LIST RE: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <002301c10c64$da27f840$8eb58dd0@main> > Dale! > Thanks! but I have too many kits to build and the big Dr.1 is low on the > pile... It'll probably be one of those long term projects to do in and out > or in between two tiny planes. Thanks anyway for your generosity. > Just yesterday I was fondling again the decals you sent me. What a great > set... it almost make me undecided if I'm gonna do the shark-mouthed N28 or > any other, but I keep thinking that's the best scheme. i'll probably put a > strange colour to the cowl since the exact hue of it is unknown > Did the URL trick I sent you worked fine? > D. Hi D, your trick worked! That tripe is georgous. I have 2 Revell & 1 HC of this plane, so if you ever need it...... Hope you don't get too discouraged about that N.28, sometimes it seems we hit a wall during construction & it screws us up on finishing. Hang in there-it will be worth it. Have a great weekend! All the best, Dale ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3524 **********************