WWI Digest 3521 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: unsubbing by Allan Wright 2) Re: My Cookup Nieuport by Matt Bittner 3) 1/9 Scale Fokker D-VIII by Allan Wright 4) Re: My Cookup Nieuport by Allan Wright 5) Re: My Cookup Nieuport by Matt Bittner 6) Re: My Cookup Nieuport by Matt Bittner 7) Re: unsubbing by Sharon Henderson 8) Re: My Cookup Nieuport by David Fleming 9) Re: unsubbing by Allan Wright 10) Re: Nice Dr.I by "Lee M." 11) Matt in Chi Town by "Brent Theobald" 12) Re: Nice Dr.I by "Lee M." 13) It's baaaack !! by David Fleming 14) Re: 1/9 Scale Fokker D-VIII by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 15) Re: 1/9 Scale Fokker D-VIII by Allan Wright 16) Re: Nice Dr.I by KarrArt@aol.com 17) 项目合作或招聘专兼职 by zhanlan@8848.net 18) RE: Nice Dr.I by "dfernet0" 19) Re: Neiuport Cookup by "Hans Trauner" 20) Re: New Eduard Boxtops by "Hans Trauner" 21) Re: Neiuport Cookup by Matt Bittner 22) RE: Neiuport Cookup by "dfernet0" 23) Re: Neiuport Cookup by Allan Wright 24) Re: Neiuport Cookup by Matt Bittner 25) RE: Neiuport Cookup by "Ray Boorman" 26) Re: Neiuport Cookup by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 27) RE: Neiuport Cookup by "dfernet0" 28) Re: Matt in Chi Town by GRBroman@aol.com 29) Re: Nice Dr.I by "Dale Sebring" 30) Re: Nice Dr.I by "Dale Sebring" 31) Re: Nice Dr.I/again by "Tom Plesha" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:11:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: unsubbing Message-ID: <200107131311.JAA05917@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > I'm going for holidays for three weeks. I will be off-line no telephone, no > computer, no network - peace and quiet :-)) No lights, no motorcar, not a single luxury. Like Robbinson Caruso it's primative as can be. Have a save and relaxing holliday! =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:15:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My Cookup Nieuport Message-ID: <20010713131521.4541.qmail@web11707.mail.yahoo.com> --- Allan Wright wrote: > Welcome back Matt - we all did it 'cause we love you :-) Gee, this was a sick joke on my behalf? I don't know whether to be flattered - or sick. ;-) Thanks, I guess. > (Now I can turn the web archives back on eh?) You stinker! Gads... ;-) Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:19:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: 1/9 Scale Fokker D-VIII Message-ID: <200107131319.JAA06007@pease1.sr.unh.edu> OK, it's not plastic, and it's a little off-scale for Matt's taste, but I put a small page up of photos of my 1/9 scale Fokker D-VIII as it currently sits 'in the bones'. Still to do are landing gear undercarriage and cowling, then rigging it up to FLY! http://pease1.sr.unh.edu/aew/rc/D-VIII/ enjoy, Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:22:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My Cookup Nieuport Message-ID: <200107131322.JAA06080@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > --- Allan Wright wrote: > > Welcome back Matt - we all did it 'cause we love you :-) > > Gee, this was a sick joke on my behalf? I don't know whether to > be flattered - or sick. ;-) Thanks, I guess. > > > (Now I can turn the web archives back on eh?) > You stinker! Gads... ;-) Neverforget, you may be assistant warden, but I run this assylum! It was someone else's idea (Shane?) but I was on-board pretty much from the get-go. This is one good group of people :-) Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:38:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My Cookup Nieuport Message-ID: <20010713133854.53529.qmail@web11708.mail.yahoo.com> --- David Fleming wrote: > What we gotta know is - were you taken in at all Matt, even for > a few seconds ? And > do you know how many heartbeats you caused to be missed by your > cybercafe post last > Saturday ? I was hoping to look through the archives, but it looks like Al was also in on it. Maybe I'll stop with helping with the site updates. ;-) Me? Taken in? By what? :-) No, I knew when I read the dates what was "going on". Plus it didn't help anyone's cause when I talked to Eduard and *knew* what was being released. You all are one sick bunch, that's for sure!! :-) And I wouldn't have it any other way. Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:45:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My Cookup Nieuport Message-ID: <20010713134506.50828.qmail@web11701.mail.yahoo.com> --- Allan Wright wrote: > Neverforget, you may be assistant warden, but I run this > assylum! It sounds like you're proud of that fact. :-) > It was someone else's idea (Shane?) but I was on-board pretty > much from the > get-go. I have no doubt it was Shane's idea. He's the biggest stinker here. ;-) > This is one good group of people :-) Oh, I don't know. That's kind of stretching it. :-) Actually I do agree, especially meeting some of them in Chicago. Yes, we are a weird bunch, but we're awfully loveable. ;-) Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:51:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: unsubbing Message-ID: <20010713135133.25121.qmail@web9808.mail.yahoo.com> So, what's Witold's favorite AC and scale??? :-) Stirring the Pot, Rev. Sharon :-) --- Allan Wright wrote: > > I'm going for holidays for three weeks. I will be > off-line no telephone, no > > computer, no network - peace and quiet :-)) > > No lights, no motorcar, not a single luxury. > Like Robbinson Caruso it's primative as can be. > > Have a save and relaxing holliday! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:45:03 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My Cookup Nieuport Message-ID: <3B4EFB5E.FE125607@dial.pipex.com> Matt Bittner wrote:Me? Taken in? By what? :-) No, I knew when I read the dates > what was "going on". Plus it didn't help anyone's cause when I > talked to Eduard and *knew* what was being released. > Knew we should have said Roden or Mac !!! Oh well, we can dream - when you see the archives, you will see some of the more outlandish ideas !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: unsubbing Message-ID: <200107131356.JAA06467@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > So, what's Witold's favorite AC and scale??? > > :-) > Stirring the Pot, > Rev. Sharon > :-) heh - I got a big out-loud laugh on that one - we're so evil! Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:48:05 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <3B4F0A25.6EDFB046@x25.net> Many of those compasses could be removed to an indoor location while parked since it was a really great idea to protect them from weather, and, potential vandals or thieves. Watches were mounted as removable also. You could also lose binoculars by being foolish. If that was really what you wanted to do Lee M. "Jay M. Thompson" wrote: > Wow VERY nice. One funny thing I noticed though, there's one shot looking > down into the cockpit, and he has the holder for the compass present but no > compass? In the article he says "the compass stand was made from scrap bits > of brass and was installed without the compass." I can't imagine a pilot > flying a Dr.I operationally without a compass; not knowing which direction > you're going is bad enough in a Cessna, it's positively lethal when there's > folks out there who'd like nothing better than to be cutting a piece of the > fabric from your plane for a souvenir... > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shane Weier > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:15 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Nice Dr.I > > http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/MartinGastel/RevellDr1. > htm > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:01:34 -0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Matt in Chi Town Message-ID:

Howdy!

So does anyone have some Bittner Tales from Chicago? I only had one chance to bust his chops... I knew he was standing behind me as I was setting out my photo request cards. So I spoke to myself as I set the cards down. Or in case of a French aircraft when I did not set a card down.

"French, nah. German, YES! French, nah. SPAD, uh-uh. Albatros, YES!  Nieuport, nope. Morane, no. Halberstadt, Oh yeah! Fokker, gotta shoot that!" etc.

Anyone else bust his chops for building dinky French models?

Later!

Brent



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------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:05:32 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <3B4F0E3C.1D1A5DCC@x25.net> Many early compass mounts extended upward from the floor like a ships compass and they were not necessarily dashpanel mounted. Those came a lot later. Many looked like a small model of a compass on board a ship. Also remember the planes only carried enough fuel for moderately short flights. Miniscule compared to today and many were only about 20 or 30 miles from home base to the combat area. Flight duration was about 3 hours out and return. Even when moving around it could have been only a 100 mile move, or, as little as 15 or 20. The front was quite static for a very long time. Remember Europe is not like Australia and the Americas. From Holland to Switzerland is about like crossing Texas. Lee M. Shane Weier wrote: > Jay, > > > Maybe Shane, but I was thinking about how often the Jastas > > moved around (new > > unfamiliar ground) and how quickly clouds and even haze can > > obscure ground > > references. You couldn't pay me enough to get into my plane and fly it > > anywhere without a compass, and my cruise speed and range > > aren't that much > > greater than that of the Dr.I. In other words, granted, you > > had to be a nut > > in the first place to fly any of these aircraft into harm's > > way without a > > parachute, but if there were grades of nuts, this guy would > > have been one of > > the higher-ranking ones. > > All true of course. OTOH I'll see if I can find the references about compass > flying as it was done in WW1. > > I'm no pilot myself, but the description of a card in constant motion - and > undamped so that it swung back and forth even when the plane was in straight > and level flight - struck me as something scarcely worth doing. > > Shane > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:56:18 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: It's baaaack !! Message-ID: <3B4F0C11.4BFFBF59@dial.pipex.com> The Hannant's site lists the arrival of the Airfix O/400 !! And I might get a chance to update the Giants page this week, but no promises !! dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:18:16 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/9 Scale Fokker D-VIII Message-ID: <2b.1827f200.28806b38@aol.com> Even I could see to paint the instrument dials on that sucker ;) And it's electric too! Keep em coming Al cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:32:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/9 Scale Fokker D-VIII Message-ID: <200107131532.LAA07099@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Even I could see to paint the instrument dials on that sucker ;) And it's > electric too! Keep em coming Al I'll keep you informed of progress. =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:04:08 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <119.196cce3.288075f8@aol.com> In a message dated 7/12/01 6:13:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: << http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/MartinGastel/RevellDr1. htm >> Pretty deep fix-it job on that venerable old kit- about the only thing I could spot was he didn't correct the trailing edge cut-outs in the middle wing. The kit has them as blunt - they should be brought to a thin edge. It's good to see someone mention the oversize tail feathers too. It's obvious that the tool makers used the old Nieto drawings, and these showed the elevator span a foot greater than any other source. An old C&C US had a chart listing all the major Dr.I dimensions as given in five sources- German and British, plus Nieto's numbers. The five all had the span in the 8' 10" range. Nieto had 9'10", and this royally goofed the whole tail. I still love this kit- it's got POTENTIAL! 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And I'm glad I got one (the hobbycraft release) in exchange for an extra "In Action" title! Good deal, huh? D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:24:16 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <002b01c10bb8$42ecfcc0$f1ac72d4@FRITZweb> Ladies and Gentlemen, you have read it already, Matt asked for a Ni17 in1/72. My personal connections ( Czech Connection) informed me about the first attempts to make exactly this type in 1/72. I have got test shots and test packages. I am not the great Nieuport expert, but the kit looks o.k. for me. The V-shape of the wings matches perfectly with the large scale drawings in the DF. Eduard says that the 1/72 business is running low. Therefore they decided to make highly attractive markings and a Profipack version only. No french markings, as they are not wanted by the modelling community, as Eduard says. More to come after finishing the kit. Hans ( Sorry to be late, folks, but I was busy ;-) ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Weier" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:26 AM Subject: Neiuport Cookup > Hans, > > Did Eduard give you any idea of when the 1/72 Nieuport 17 you previewed in > the > Nieuport cookup will be available? > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:26:13 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: New Eduard Boxtops Message-ID: <004301c10bb8$88d2f820$f1ac72d4@FRITZweb> > > I didn't see the N.17 in 1/72 that Hans heard about. > > Marc Of course. It' ll be No 1 *after* the kits mentioned above are completely sold out. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:31:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <20010713163135.74819.qmail@web11708.mail.yahoo.com> --- Hans Trauner wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen, > you have read it already, Matt asked for a Ni17 in1/72. My > personal > connections ( Czech Connection) informed me about the first > attempts to make > exactly this type in 1/72. I have got test shots and test > packages. I am not > the great Nieuport expert, but the kit looks o.k. for me. The > V-shape of the > wings matches perfectly with the large scale drawings in the > DF. > > Eduard says that the 1/72 business is running low. Therefore > they decided to > make highly attractive markings and a Profipack version only. > No french > markings, as they are not wanted by the modelling community, as > Eduard says. I'm still highly doubtful. Afterall, the subject line is misspelled. ;-) In the typical fashion, "I shall believe it when I have it in my hands"... And if French markings are not wanted by the modeling community, then explain the markings in the first release of the Balloon Scale Nieuport 11?... :-) Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:43:59 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <006a01c10bbb$0441de20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > I'm still highly doubtful. Afterall, the subject line is > misspelled. ;-) In the typical fashion, "I shall believe it when > I have it in my hands"... Look what we've created... now Matt it's another cynical young man! Where's hope nowadays? D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:46:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <200107131646.MAA07722@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Matt wrote: > > I'm still highly doubtful. Afterall, the subject line is > > misspelled. ;-) In the typical fashion, "I shall believe it when > > I have it in my hands"... > > Look what we've created... now Matt it's another cynical young man! > Where's hope nowadays? Young? =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <20010713164955.76961.qmail@web11708.mail.yahoo.com> --- Allan Wright wrote: > Young? Eh? What's that you say? :-) Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:47:04 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: I'm confused here, Why do we need more Nieuports. We already have a perfectly good Revell N28 and N17 which are in and out of production all the time. With the addition of the Toko/Eastern Express Nieuport 11 types. It would seem we have plenty of good models. Admittedly too too many of them have boring French camo but hey we can't have everything. Now what we really need are some more Sopwith types, these are really under-represented, or failing that we could do with a nice injected Martin Kitten or even dare I say a 1/72 PKZ 2. I mean think of the sales. Nieuports are tapped out imho, how many 5 colour aircraft can you build before you get bored...... Well thats my two cents, I'm off to look at cars, lets see I really like the look of an Edsel...... Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Hans > Trauner > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 9:26 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Neiuport Cookup > > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > you have read it already, Matt asked for a Ni17 in1/72. My personal > connections ( Czech Connection) informed me about the first > attempts to make > exactly this type in 1/72. I have got test shots and test > packages. I am not > the great Nieuport expert, but the kit looks o.k. for me. The > V-shape of the > wings matches perfectly with the large scale drawings in the DF. > > Eduard says that the 1/72 business is running low. Therefore they > decided to > make highly attractive markings and a Profipack version only. No french > markings, as they are not wanted by the modelling community, as > Eduard says. > > More to come after finishing the kit. > > Hans > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 02:33:45 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <3B4F22E9.AC5C1988@tac.com.au> Ray Boorman wrote: > > Yup right Shane, so are you going to blame Lorna !!! ;0) Do I look stupid mate ;-) Shane ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 14:03:32 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Neiuport Cookup Message-ID: <007a01c10bbd$bef471e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Ray, the confused, wrote: > Why do we need more Nieuports. We already have a perfectly good Revell N28 > and N17 which are in and out of production all the time. With the addition > of the Toko/Eastern Express Nieuport 11 types. It would seem we have plenty > of good models. The Nieuport 28 by Revell, altough it can be built OOB and get a fine looking model is fairly unnacurate, and is no match to modern WW1 kits. It's a case just like the Fokker Dr.1 by Revell and Eduard: both are good kits, but there's no choice but to get an Eduard if you like a great model built with little effort. The nieuport 17 really needs retooling and a lot of improvement. Let's wait until Roden or MAC gets without new german subjects, in view that Eduard doesn't seem too enthusiastic about reducing their 17 to 1/72 D. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:10:07 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: Subject: Re: Matt in Chi Town Message-ID: <47.dd29cd0.28808570@aol.com> Yup, Greg VanWyngarden took a few well deserved shots at him during his presentation. Glen In a message dated Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:05:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Brent Theobald" writes: > > Howdy! > So does anyone havesome Bittner Tales from Chicago? I only had one chance to bust his chops... I knew he was standing behind me as I was setting out my photo request cards. So I spoke to myself as I set the cards down. Or in case of a French aircraft when I did not set a card down. > "French, nah. German, YES! French, nah. SPAD, uh-uh. Albatros, YES! Nieuport, nope. Morane, no. Halberstadt, Oh yeah! Fokker, gotta shoot that!" etc. > Anyone else bust his chops for building dinky French models? > Later! > Brent > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:11:47 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <001b01c10bbe$e6e147e0$4cb58dd0@main> > In a message dated 7/12/01 6:13:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: > > << > http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/MartinGastel/RevellDr1. > htm > >> > > Pretty deep fix-it job on that venerable old kit- about the only thing I > could spot was he didn't correct the trailing edge cut-outs in the middle > wing. The kit has them as blunt - they should be brought to a thin edge. > It's good to see someone mention the oversize tail feathers too. It's obvious > that the tool makers used the old Nieto drawings, and these showed the > elevator span a foot greater than any other source. An old C&C US had a chart > listing all the major Dr.I dimensions as given in five sources- German and > British, plus Nieto's numbers. The five all had the span in the 8' 10" range. > Nieto had 9'10", and this royally goofed the whole tail. > I still love this kit- it's got POTENTIAL! > > RK Hey, I can't get this to come up-anyone else have that problem? Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:12:48 -0600 From: "Dale Sebring" To: Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <002301c10bbf$0b941e00$4cb58dd0@main> > Robet wrote: > > I still love this kit- it's got POTENTIAL! > > And I'm glad I got one (the hobbycraft release) in exchange for an extra "In > Action" title! Good deal, huh? > D. D, would you like a Revell too? Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:34:20 -0400 From: "Tom Plesha" To: Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I/again Message-ID: <001901c10bc2$0cb47ac0$2cfdfa18@mcmb1.mi.home.com> Hi Dale- No luck with me either. Later Tom S.E.MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Sebring" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Nice Dr.I > > > > In a message dated 7/12/01 6:13:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > sdw@qld.mim.com.au writes: > > > > << > > > http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/MartinGastel/RevellDr1. > > htm > > >> > > > > Pretty deep fix-it job on that venerable old kit- about the only thing I > > could spot was he didn't correct the trailing edge cut-outs in the middle > > wing. The kit has them as blunt - they should be brought to a thin edge. > > It's good to see someone mention the oversize tail feathers too. It's > obvious > > that the tool makers used the old Nieto drawings, and these showed the > > elevator span a foot greater than any other source. An old C&C US had a > chart > > listing all the major Dr.I dimensions as given in five sources- German and > > British, plus Nieto's numbers. The five all had the span in the 8' 10" > range. > > Nieto had 9'10", and this royally goofed the whole tail. > > I still love this kit- it's got POTENTIAL! > > > > RK > > > Hey, I can't get this to come up-anyone else have that problem? > > Dale > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3521 **********************