WWI Digest 3520 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Gavia Bristol Scout C by Todd Hayes 2) Re: Axial Props for Sale by Morg17ms@aol.com 3) RE: The commanders of Jasta Boelcke by "Gaston Graf" 4) Re: CA accelerator mess-ups by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 5) Re: The commanders of Jasta Boelcke by "Bob Pearson" 6) RE: CA accelerator mess-ups by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 7) RE: Super glue accelerator by "Jay M. Thompson" 8) RE: Nice Dr.I by "Jay M. Thompson" 9) RE: Nice Dr.I by Shane Weier 10) RE: Nice Dr.I by "Jay M. Thompson" 11) RE: Nice Dr.I by Shane Weier 12) RE: Nice Dr.I by "Jay M. Thompson" 13) Re: Thanks by David Fleming 14) New 1/72 Nieuports by "Sandy Adam" 15) Re: Thanks by "Matt Bittner" 16) Re: New Eduard Boxtops by "Allen H Besser" 17) Re: Thanks by David Fleming 18) Re: New 1/72 Nieuports by David Fleming 19) Re: Thanks by "Matt Bittner" 20) Re: Thanks by David Fleming 21) Eduard & low sales by "Michael Kendix" 22) Re: My Cookup Nieuport by Allan Wright 23) Re: My Cookup Nieuport by David Fleming 24) unsubbing by Witold Kozakiewicz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:58:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Gavia Bristol Scout C Message-ID: <20010713015838.26574.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> Squadron has a picture of the boxart for the Bristol on their advanced order section of new items. Tasty. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:31:27 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Axial Props for Sale Message-ID: <8c.95e720c.287fd39f@aol.com> I'd like to learn more - sounds tempting. I recently acquired a couple of the repro rudders from Poland - look great in my living room! Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 07:07:36 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: The commanders of Jasta Boelcke Message-ID: Thanks a lot, Bob! I will add this info, pointing out that you made the profile and placing a link to your CD ;o). btw: I don't have much knowledge of Allied ranks so I don't know what JO means. Is it just the firstname "Jo" and you unintentionally typed JO, or does the J stand for something military? Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Stefan Kirmaier > Franz Walz > Otto Hohne > > Kirmaier was killed on 22 November 1916 by JO Andrews of No.24 Sqn flying > DH2 5998, which I profiled in various locations, most recently > the Schiffer > British markings book. IIRC Steve Perry built this aircraft. > > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:24:42 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: CA accelerator mess-ups Message-ID: > > >I'm afraid sanding them out is the only way, as the accelerator actually >> >melts the plastic... those fingerprints are in there to stay. Another >>good >> >reason to simply throw out the spray pump if using this stuff on > >styrene. I have been using various brands of kicker for many years now. The first thing I do is to throw the spray top away and replace it with a cap from an empty bottle of 10X7R. I use a #6 crochet hook to apply it. The hook will pick up a small drop of the liquid, and when touched to the joint area, capillary action pulls the liquid off the hook. Actually, I have several of them on the work table. The hooks work on any kind of liquid. The one I use for the kicker has a piece of tape around the shank. Helps the old mind keep track of the one that has kicker on it so I don't dip it in a puddle of CA. By using this method of application, a bottle will last for years, and you can put it exactly where you want it. I usually end up having to buy a new bottle because I knock the open bottle over and spill the contents long before I use it on the model. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:27:53 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The commanders of Jasta Boelcke Message-ID: <200107131130.f6DBUYr81151@mail.rapidnet.net> Gaston, The JO refers to his initials. .. Captain John Oliver Andrews. He later went to No.66 Sqn and ended the war as OC of No.209 Sqn. Bob ---------- >From: "Gaston Graf" > > btw: I don't have much knowledge of Allied ranks so I don't know what JO > means. Is it just the firstname "Jo" and you unintentionally typed JO, or > does the J stand for something military? > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:38:16 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: CA accelerator mess-ups Message-ID: I forgot to mention, If you get a blob of hardened CA on the tip, it can be cleaned off with the tip of a knife or your finger nail. I still have and am using the original metal hooks I bought in the late '60s or early '70s. Those things serve a multitude of uses and have outlasted many other speciality tools. I have used them to emboss plastic sheet (rib stations and access panels) score fold lines on card models, apply many types of liquid materials including white glue and paints. Turn them over and use the handle to stir paint, mix two part epoxy or miliput, and many other thinks I can't remember at the moment. John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:49:32 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Super glue accelerator Message-ID: Speaking of nasty hardeners, although I doubt anyone here will use it for OT work (unless you get a sudden urge to build a 1/3 Nieuport), one you REALLY want to be careful with is fiberglass catalyst. A single drop in your eye will blind that eye permanently, before your eyelid even closed. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of The Shannons Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:31 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Super glue accelerator Aromatic amines covers a lot of territory, but generally, they are things you do not want to bath in or snort. On the other hand, Niacinamide contains an 'aromatic amine' group. >From the 'Zip-Kicker' brand I've used, it smells like there is some aniline or toluidine in it, though it is always chancy to try to identify compounds just by the smell. This is not good stuff to be in your system, so as with all our solvents and such, use in a well ventilated area and keep the bottle tightly closed between uses (I saved the plastic outer tube that the bottle came in and put the bottle back in it after closing, then put the cap on). I don't know what kind of concentration they use, but it is probable that it is roughly 10% active. It could be 100% (depending on the amine they used) but I doubt it. It is probably somewhat related to the hardener for epoxies. There are worse things you could work with, but don't take chances with snorting the stuff. .Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Wilson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: Re: Super glue accelerator > No way. CA accelerator is a chemical compound known as an aromatic amine - I use a few of them in amongst my colour photographic chemicals. Nasty things they are. Do we have any chemists on the list that could tell us more? > > As regards baking soda, it works as an accelerator of sorts, but in a totally different way. Baking soda increases the surface area over which the CA acts - the CA coats all the individual crystals and the exposure to moisture in the air is thus much greater. This accelerates the CA cure. Forgive me, I'm not explaining this too well, but hopefully you get the picture. > > Jeff > > >>> ibs4421@commandnet.net - 12/7/01 9:50 AM >>> > Edward, > IIRC, it is nothing more than baking soda. Of course I > think this is baking soda suspended in a solution. > > Warren > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:57:13 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: Wow VERY nice. One funny thing I noticed though, there's one shot looking down into the cockpit, and he has the holder for the compass present but no compass? In the article he says "the compass stand was made from scrap bits of brass and was installed without the compass." I can't imagine a pilot flying a Dr.I operationally without a compass; not knowing which direction you're going is bad enough in a Cessna, it's positively lethal when there's folks out there who'd like nothing better than to be cutting a piece of the fabric from your plane for a souvenir... -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Nice Dr.I http://www.kithobbyist.com/largescaleplanes/articles/MartinGastel/RevellDr1. htm ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:00:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD269@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Jay says: > I can't imagine a pilot > flying a Dr.I operationally without a compass; not knowing > which direction > you're going is bad enough in a Cessna, it's positively > lethal when there's > folks out there who'd like nothing better than to be cutting > a piece of the > fabric from your plane for a souvenir... It wouldn't surprise me at all. I've read at least a couple accounts of how near impossible it is to use a compass of that era to navigate, and the Germans operated mostly on their own side of the lines. Combine that with limited range (meaning the possibility of being able to locate oneself by looking at the ground for familiar landmarks) and the only objection is bad weather, which might or might not ground you anyway. Mind - *I* would have added the compass myself ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:31:42 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: Maybe Shane, but I was thinking about how often the Jastas moved around (new unfamiliar ground) and how quickly clouds and even haze can obscure ground references. You couldn't pay me enough to get into my plane and fly it anywhere without a compass, and my cruise speed and range aren't that much greater than that of the Dr.I. In other words, granted, you had to be a nut in the first place to fly any of these aircraft into harm's way without a parachute, but if there were grades of nuts, this guy would have been one of the higher-ranking ones. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Nice Dr.I Jay says: > I can't imagine a pilot > flying a Dr.I operationally without a compass; not knowing > which direction > you're going is bad enough in a Cessna, it's positively > lethal when there's > folks out there who'd like nothing better than to be cutting > a piece of the > fabric from your plane for a souvenir... It wouldn't surprise me at all. I've read at least a couple accounts of how near impossible it is to use a compass of that era to navigate, and the Germans operated mostly on their own side of the lines. Combine that with limited range (meaning the possibility of being able to locate oneself by looking at the ground for familiar landmarks) and the only objection is bad weather, which might or might not ground you anyway. Mind - *I* would have added the compass myself ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:34:23 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD26A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Jay, > Maybe Shane, but I was thinking about how often the Jastas > moved around (new > unfamiliar ground) and how quickly clouds and even haze can > obscure ground > references. You couldn't pay me enough to get into my plane and fly it > anywhere without a compass, and my cruise speed and range > aren't that much > greater than that of the Dr.I. In other words, granted, you > had to be a nut > in the first place to fly any of these aircraft into harm's > way without a > parachute, but if there were grades of nuts, this guy would > have been one of > the higher-ranking ones. All true of course. OTOH I'll see if I can find the references about compass flying as it was done in WW1. I'm no pilot myself, but the description of a card in constant motion - and undamped so that it swung back and forth even when the plane was in straight and level flight - struck me as something scarcely worth doing. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 02:27:26 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Nice Dr.I Message-ID: Well modern aircraft have directional gyros, which give you nice stable heading indications as long as you remember to recalibrate it every half hour or so to correct for gyroscopic precession (assuming you don't have a GPS that is, which is much better). But how do we recalibrate the DG? With the good old-fashioned compass. Yes, it bounces around a lot when it's turbulent, and when you're turning you have to take into account lead/lag errors...bottom line is it's accurate only in level, unaccelerated flight, and even then it's still swinging around a bit. And then you have to take into account magnetic deviation, which in some northern US states can be as much as 11 degrees. All that being said, if nothing else it can tell you plus or minus 20 degrees which way you're headed, and I still can't imagine the thinking process that would decide to leave it on the ground. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shane Weier Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: RE: Nice Dr.I Jay, > Maybe Shane, but I was thinking about how often the Jastas > moved around (new > unfamiliar ground) and how quickly clouds and even haze can > obscure ground > references. You couldn't pay me enough to get into my plane and fly it > anywhere without a compass, and my cruise speed and range > aren't that much > greater than that of the Dr.I. In other words, granted, you > had to be a nut > in the first place to fly any of these aircraft into harm's > way without a > parachute, but if there were grades of nuts, this guy would > have been one of > the higher-ranking ones. All true of course. OTOH I'll see if I can find the references about compass flying as it was done in WW1. I'm no pilot myself, but the description of a card in constant motion - and undamped so that it swung back and forth even when the plane was in straight and level flight - struck me as something scarcely worth doing. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:27:30 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <3B4EB0F1.E0BC1577@dial.pipex.com> Matt Bittner wrote: > Some news from the Nats IRT Eduard. Hopefully at the end of the year > we'll see the Albatros D.III in 1/72nd. After that they're going to > *try* (important word) to release a new 1/72nd every six months after > that. After the Albatros will be the Fokker E.III followed by the > Hanriot, both HD.1 *and* HD.2. So we have to wait another year for the E111 - aaaaaah ! > Cool! I tried to convince him to put > the Nieuport 17 into 1/72nd, and he would really like to, but > unfortunately the 1/72nd side of the business is a *no win* situation. > Such a shame. And yet Roden are chucking them out ? Distribution must come into this - are Eduard regarded still as enthusiasts or limited run kits ? > He was telling me ("he" being Colin Adair) they needed > to sell 2000 (or maybe 2500) Albatros D.V's to break even. > Unfortunately they've only sold about 1500. And yet Airfix sees enough of a market to rerelease their 1950s Albatros ? I can't believe this - the Eduard kits fly off the shelves in my local shop (One guy is apparently trying to recreate one of the Jasta line ups), the shop owner can't get enough of them. > Unfortunately Ray's > "complaint" about the lack of control horns did hurt. Such a shame, > too. Which was crap anyway - the DVa didn't need them, and the DV had them on the etched sheet. IIRC, RR reviewed the DVa as a DV/DVa. As Shane said, who would notice ? > Even so, though, Eduard *does* want to release more in 1/72nd. I > just wish there was something we could do to prove to Eduard that > 1/72nd is *not* a dying scale. Ah well... > As I said earlier, Eduard need to get better distribution to get MORE of their kits into MORE hobbyshops. Mind you, also not helped by the fact that you can either have a very bare cockpit (non profi) or too much pe. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:29:50 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: New 1/72 Nieuports Message-ID: <001601c10b7e$7ae509e0$26e8b094@sandyada> Which gods have you 1/72 bu**ers been sacrificing to? I went into Wonderland models and the salesguy I know said "Boy are you in for a treat!" But the damned good news was all in 1/72 scale. He showed me a new range of 1/72 Nieuport kits from a new company, whose name escapes me at the moment. They were all there - IV, 9, 10,12, 11, 16, 17, 21, 23, 24, 25, 27 , 28, 29, Nighthawk, NightJar, Macchi-built, Dux-built. All 4.99 GBP each and very nicely moulded in a greenish Matt plastic. Company name was some sort of bird - Heron Models, no - Curlew Models no - Bittern Models - that's it I think. A flier showed other upcoming models - I remember an Albatros D.II, Dr,1, BI, BII, C-types and a whole lot of Abatros experimentals - all in bl**dy 1/72!. Fantastic quality, great transfers and cheap! I'm off on holiday today or I'd be on the phone to tell them to dump the 1/72 emphasis and do some 1/48! Anyway I'm off. See you when I get back. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 04:58:35 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <200107130956.CAA17749@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 04:39:51 -0400 (EDT), David Fleming wrote: > As I said earlier, Eduard need to get better distribution to get MORE of > their kits into MORE hobbyshops. Mind you, also not helped by the fact that > you can either have a very bare cockpit (non profi) or too much pe. One other thing IRT Eduard vs. Roden. You can buy almost two Roden's per one Eduard. Granted the Eduard is far better, but still, it matters to some. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:46:39 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: New Eduard Boxtops Message-ID: <00a701c10b89$1c2caec0$cc5a143f@compaq-computer> And do you have Eduards e-mail address?????? Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: Todd Hayes To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:26 PM Subject: Re: New Eduard Boxtops >Hi Marc, > >Maybe you should get the Eduard kit catalogs each >year. All the current and future kits are pictured >including strip down kits. I get mine directly from >Eduard. Twice they've sent complimentary copies to >me. Once I paid $10. Just e-mail them and ask. I >wouldn't be surprised if they'll send you one free. >VAMP Models also carry them. Roll Models and others >here might have them too. They're high grade and >obviously meant as collectibles. > >Hail Eduard! > >Todd >--- Marc Flake wrote >> I was surfing the net late this afternoon and was >> browsing the >> www.greatmodels.com site when i cam across some >> pictures I hadn't seen >> before. I've browsed the Eduard site (but not in >> the last month) and >> haven't even seen them there. At Great Models there >> are boxtops for >> three 1/48 Sopwith Camels, including a Comic; the N. >> 11 Profipak; a >> Nieuport 21; two Albatross D IIs; an Albatros w4; >> and Albatros OEFAG >> Series 253. In 1/72 there are boxtop paintings for >> two Fokker E-IIIs, >> two albatros D IIIs, two Hanriot HD Is and two >> Hanriot HD 2s. >> >> These ar all listed as FUTURE and many don't even >> have prices on them. >> But they are cool to look at. >> >> I didn't see the N.17 in 1/72 that Hans heard about. >> >> Marc > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:29:43 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <3B4ECD97.7F92E2F7@dial.pipex.com> Matt Bittner wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 04:39:51 -0400 (EDT), David Fleming wrote: > > > As I said earlier, Eduard need to get better distribution to get MORE of > > their kits into MORE hobbyshops. Mind you, also not helped by the fact that > > you can either have a very bare cockpit (non profi) or too much pe. > > One other thing IRT Eduard vs. Roden. You can buy almost two Roden's > per one Eduard. Granted the Eduard is far better, but still, it > matters to some. > Interesting angle, but not here in the UK! I checked - my Roden Pfalz cost £5.49, my Eduard Profi pack DVs were £6.50, the non profi's are cheaper than the Roden kits (£4.50). Anyway, I'm off to Wonderland to see these Nieuports Sandy was talking about. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:50:52 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New 1/72 Nieuports Message-ID: <3B4ED28C.8605CD9F@dial.pipex.com> Sandy Adam wrote: > Which gods have you 1/72 bu**ers been sacrificing to? > > I went into Wonderland models and the salesguy I know said "Boy are you in > for a treat!" > But the damned good news was all in 1/72 scale. > He showed me a new range of 1/72 Nieuport kits from a new company, whose > name escapes me at the moment. > > They were all there - IV, 9, 10,12, 11, 16, 17, 21, 23, 24, 25, 27 , 28, 29, > Nighthawk, NightJar, Macchi-built, Dux-built. All 4.99 GBP each and very > nicely moulded in a greenish Matt plastic. > Aaaaargh - No Nie 20 !! What a terrible terrible mistake - I'll not buy any of these in protest, and write to all the Cyber forums explaining why these kits should not be bought ! > > Company name was some sort of bird - Heron Models, no - Curlew Models no - > Bittern Models - I'd never noticed that anagram before........ Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:02:22 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <200107131100.EAA11362@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:59:22 -0400 (EDT), David Fleming wrote: > Anyway, I'm off to Wonderland to see these Nieuports Sandy was talking about. If he wasn't smoking anything when he typed that, please give us a report. ;-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:24:58 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Thanks Message-ID: <3B4EDA8A.7AAC170C@dial.pipex.com> Matt Bittner wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 06:59:22 -0400 (EDT), David Fleming wrote: > > > Anyway, I'm off to Wonderland to see these Nieuports Sandy was talking about. > > If he wasn't smoking anything when he typed that, please give us a > report. ;-) > Wonder if he saw Alice and the giant white rabbit as well ? :-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:27:11 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Eduard & low sales Message-ID: Matt Bittner wrote: > He was telling me ("he" being Colin Adair) they needed >to sell 2000 (or maybe 2500) Albatros D.V's to break even. >Unfortunately they've only sold about 1500. Today, I read in Hyperscale's editorial that Japan accounts for 80% of the world market in plastic models. This matches rough estimates I've seen on this list. I wonder what the Japanese folks build? I've seen some of their stuff, some WW1 I recall but if Eduard could get their Japanese marketing act in gear, I'm sure there'd be a great source of sales. Of course, the Japanese economy has tremendous barriers to foreign imports, though I know nothing of the specifics for the model industry. It is quite possible that they would try to protect domestic producrs such as Tamiya and Hasegawa by using import duties and quotas. One problem is that producers must accomodate Japanese speakers by using some Japanese language on the box and in the instructions. I don't know whether we have any Japanese people on the list but if we do, I would like to hear their views. I must confess that I am surprised that only 1,500 Eduard D.V's were sold. I assume this was not a total of both D.V's and D.Va's? Michael Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 08:48:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My Cookup Nieuport Message-ID: <200107131248.IAA05599@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:48:13 -0400 (EDT), ibs4421@commandnet.net wrote: > > > As someone who is still new to all this, I just want to say that this > > Nieuport Cookup has really stoked me up. What agreat load of info! Gotta > > go buy some kits and books now. > > Gee, leave for a few days and the list goes to he77 and a hand basket! > Now you have people convinced of the validity of this drivel. Will > wonders never cease? > > This is definitely a sick bunch... ;-) > Matt Bittner Welcome back Matt - we all did it 'cause we love you :-) (Now I can turn the web archives back on eh?) Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:48:55 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: My Cookup Nieuport Message-ID: <3B4EEE37.2FE236D1@dial.pipex.com> > > > This is definitely a sick bunch... ;-) > > Matt Bittner > > Welcome back Matt - we all did it 'cause we love you :-) > > (Now I can turn the web archives back on eh?) > > Al What we gotta know is - were you taken in at all Matt, even for a few seconds ? And do you know how many heartbeats you caused to be missed by your cybercafe post last Saturday ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:04:51 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: unsubbing Message-ID: <3B4EF1F3.43A3E531@bg.am.lodz.pl> Hi, I'm going for holidays for three weeks. I will be off-line no telephone, no computer, no network - peace and quiet :-)) All requests for Alb C.V sets and other things I will fill when I come back in August. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3520 **********************