WWI Digest 3513 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again by "Hans Trauner" 2) Re: IPMS US Nationals by "Michael Kendix" 3) San Antonio by "Brad & Merville" 4) Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh by "Brad & Merville" 5) Re: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? by "cameron rile" 6) Re: Nieuport cookup site update by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 7) Re: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? by "Tom Solinski" 8) Re: Struts problems by "diaphus" 9) Re: Nieuport cookup site update by "Brad & Merville" 10) Re: IPMS US Nationals by "diaphus" 11) Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again by "Tom Solinski" 12) Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again by "diaphus" 13) RE: IPMS US Nationals by Shane Weier 14) RE: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh by Shane Weier 15) RE: Caution: ot Zeppelin again by Volker Haeusler 16) Re: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh by "Brad & Merville" 17) RE: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh by Shane Weier 18) 55 Squadron in 1918 by Tony Heyes 19) RE: IPMS US Nationals by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh by "Brad & Merville" 21) Roden Fokker D.VII by "Kenneth Hagerup" 22) RE: Roden Fokker D.VII by Shane Weier 23) WW1 Paints by Todd Hayes 24) FW: Nieuport 23 question by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:59:46 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again Message-ID: <001701c1096a$1aee6920$1fa172d4@FRITZweb> The Nordholz Museum does have normal opening times, now. Visit them under http://www.aeronauticum.de/. A good source in printed media is Zeppelin by Ray Rimell Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "David C. Fletcher" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again > Gaston Graf wrote: > > > Speaking about the Zepps: A visitor of Jasta Boelcke asked me for a source > > where he could find more information about the Zeppelin raiders of WW1... > > The Bundesmarine base at Nordholz (near Cuxhaven) had a museum which was > dedicated to WWI Zeppelin operations, but it was only open by > appointment. It was over twenty years ago when I visited Nordholz - > maybe one of our Deutschland representatives has more up-to-date > information. > > Dave Fletcher > -- > Visit us at our Home Page: > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:17:13 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: IPMS US Nationals Message-ID: >From: "Len Smith" >Michael, >Surely you must be joking or mistaken ! I would not dispute that >Matts >Morane Saulnier AI is deserving of an award, but even a judge >must have >seen that it is not a biplane. I was not being clear. The category is called "Biplanes (and others that are predominantly fabric, struts and rigging)." So you get all sorts e.g. Fokker E.V, Fokker "Spinne", etc. The categories can be quite arbitrary and annoying:). E.g. a single category for 1/48th scale B*-1*9's!! Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:44:55 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: San Antonio Message-ID: <004301c10981$3008d180$87885ad1@default> Any of our Lone Star listees know of anything OT to see in the San Antonio area? Any good hobby shops etc...? I'll be attending a work related convention there for four days in August. TIA. Brad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:48:18 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh Message-ID: <004701c10981$a92b4160$87885ad1@default> Any of you listees making the pilgrimage to Oshkosh this year to see the Vimy fly? If so give me a shout off list and perhaps we can meet up. Brad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:08:49 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? Message-ID: <5C68D883D5575D115AF50005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> Hans, >Ltn. Clauss started flying as an artillery spotter. >His observer was Rudolph Rentier. Thanks Hans. >Not joking: No idea what's his first name. Bummer >Try and ask: Australian War Memorial Research Centre at Unfortunately that was the origin of the original request, I thought someone on this list may know. >but I could not locate an url for the Australian >War Museum where Clauss' Albatros is on display. >Or is this Museum identical with the War Memorial? Yes they are one and the same, and originally run by an Australian Flying Corps veteran from the Mesopotamian campaign, Lt Treloar. http://www.awm.gov.au/ They recently put their medal database online, of interest in that is , Capt H.G. Forrest from the AFC got an Italian medal, it appears before he transferred to the AFC. cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ( On another note the RAAF History conference this year in Canberra is on the origins of Australian Military Aviation, check the AFC front page for details on the papers ) ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:26:05 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nieuport cookup site update Message-ID: <8d.920d3fc.287ccced@aol.com> I don't seem able to get any of the cookups. Is it me? cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:31:05 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? Message-ID: <012101c10987$a015c220$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> > > Folks, > > > I recently received a query on what was Lt Claus > of Jasta 29's first name? Claus's Albatros is > better known as the Australian War Memorial Albatros. > > Sorry too easy Santa? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:34:14 -0400 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: Struts problems Message-ID: <005801c10988$1136f0a0$d0632241@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Struts problems > Jack, > thanks for the advice. I have done a similiar method to thicken up PE parts, > as suggested, but it did not come to my mind to use it for complete struts. > > Hans > Hans, My pleasure. It's probably easier to use on full length struts because you have room to sand any rough spots smooth. As I said, the only really problem is avoiding any bending of the struts, but that's to be avoided anyway! :-) Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:35:15 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Nieuport cookup site update Message-ID: <007601c10988$35c9bba0$87885ad1@default> Yes! It is. -----Original Message----- From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Nieuport cookup site update >I don't seem able to get any of the cookups. Is it me? > >cheers > >Peter L > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:41:51 -0400 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: IPMS US Nationals Message-ID: <007601c10989$211b6ea0$d0632241@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Smith" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: Re: IPMS US Nationals > Michael, > Surely you must be joking or mistaken ! I would not dispute that Matts > Morane Saulnier AI is deserving of an award, but even a judge must have seen > that it is not a biplane. > Regards Len. Len, Actually, although the main line for the category is Biplanes, it is subheaded something like "includes planes with fabric covered parts and/or substantial amounts of rigging". That's where I placed my W29. As set up, these two biplane categories really are the only place to put any WWI monoplanes. They would probably get moved there from the standard prop a/c categories anyway. Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:44:17 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again Message-ID: <019701c10989$784d83c0$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> Gaston may I suggest: "Airships of the First World War" by Terry C Treadwell and Alan C. Wood, by Tempus Publishing Limited of Stroud England ISBN 0-7524-1629-4 and "The Zeppelin" The History of German Airships from 1900 to 1937" by Christopher Chant, by Barns and Nobel books ISBN0-7607-1996-9 Tom Solinski helium head Son of a helium head builder of the world's finest indoor r/c blimps! ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaston Graf To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Caution: ot Zeppelin again > Speaking about the Zepps: A visitor of Jasta Boelcke asked me for a source > where he could find more information about the Zeppelin raiders of WW1. Can > anybody please help me with that? Unfortunately I don't know much about the > Zeppelins. I only own one good book about the Hindenburg disaster. > > Cheers! > > > Gaston Graf > (ggraf@vo.lu) > Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: > http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Hans > > Trauner > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:42 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Caution: ot Zeppelin again > > > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > some weeks ago there was a Zeppelin thread, including the question which > > Zeppelin the Testors vacform kit was. I answered: Hindenburg. > > > > Wrong. It was the Graf Zeppelin. I found it out reading Brad > > Hansen's WWI in > > Plastic. > > > > Sorry. > > > > Regards, > > Aloysius Alzheimer, Munich > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:48:42 -0400 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again Message-ID: <008301c1098a$161694c0$d0632241@tampabay.rr.com> > > Gaston Graf wrote: > > > > > Speaking about the Zepps: A visitor of Jasta Boelcke asked me for a > source > > > where he could find more information about the Zeppelin raiders of > WW1... Two books in my library (actually, the only ones) are: "The Golden Age of the Great Passenger Airships - Graf Zeppelin & Hindenburg" by Harold G. Dick with Douglas H. Robinson, Smithsonian Institution Press. An enginerr with Goodyear, Mr. Dick spent 5 years with the Zeppelin works as an observer so he probably knows what he is talking about when it comes to the subject. "Zeppelins of World War I" by Wilbur Cross, Barnes and Nobles Books. This is a smallish book, but is an amazing historical account of the Zeppelins. I never realized just how tough their crews had it, much like the U-Boat service of WWII. HTH, Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:15:13 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: IPMS US Nationals Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD22A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Michael says: > The categories can be quite arbitrary and annoying:). E.g. a single > category for 1/48th scale B*-1*9's!! >From the POV of a contest organiser, I can only say - tough luck! Categories are not determined to by the organisers to benefit the popular (echh) subjects, but by the number ofg models that appear. If you can organise 40 or so Nieuports 11, or 50 Martinsyde Elephants, or 35 Albatrosse D.III with enough others to make a split necessary to enable fair judging the contest organisers will oblige you with you very own single category split for 1/x whatevers. Decisions on splits aren't arbitrary - they're made based on the numbers entered, a case of democracy in action as modellers vote with their handiwork. This is one of the most annoying complaints convention organisers field - I have heard all too many Sci-Fi modellers complain to me that we have "too many aircraft sections and only one Sci-Fi section" I tell them every time that I'd LOVE to have a multitude of Sci-Fi trophies to hand out, but if I don't get more than 4 or 5 entries NOW from where would the new entrants appear? (Which is not to say I don't fantasize about seeing splits like that in favour of OUR subject matter, because it'd mean there had been a LOT of entries) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:15:57 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD22B@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brad, > Any of you listees making the pilgrimage to Oshkosh this year > to see the > Vimy fly? If so give me a shout off list and perhaps we can meet up. Tell them to send it back to Brisbane. Surely she's homesick by now :-( Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:07:40 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Caution: ot Zeppelin again Message-ID: Gaston asked: "Speaking about the Zepps: A visitor of Jasta Boelcke asked me for a source where he could find more information about the Zeppelin raiders of WW1. Can anybody please help me with that? Unfortunately I don't know much about the Zeppelins. I only own one good book about the Hindenburg disaster. Cheers! Gaston Graf" Obviously, the one and only, best, superb, incredible, need-to-be-seen-to-be-believed source is Douglas Robinson´s "The Zeppelin in Combat", even though it concentrates on the Naval Airships only. But Robinson discussed with lots of surviving Zeppelin crews, used the *original* Zeppelin war diaries in the Bundesarchiv-Militaerarchiv etc. The book seems to be oop now, but is still available at a number of places (for example in the Koblenz bookshop we discussed some weeks ago). Abebook also had some a few weeks ago. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:56:46 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh Message-ID: <001e01c1099b$faace420$03895ad1@default> I will ! Wonder if they could use a Canuck observer on the trip? -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:28 PM Subject: RE: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh >Brad, > > >> Any of you listees making the pilgrimage to Oshkosh this year >> to see the >> Vimy fly? If so give me a shout off list and perhaps we can meet up. > >Tell them to send it back to Brisbane. Surely she's homesick by now :-( > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 >********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:18:00 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD22D@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brad, > > I will ! Wonder if they could use a Canuck observer on the trip? > Surely they must! And there's an airshow at Caboolture (where she was built) the weekend after our model show IIRC. An ideal coincidence. If only.... Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:58:34 +1000 From: Tony Heyes To: cbbs@almac.co.uk Cc: wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu Subject: 55 Squadron in 1918 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010711104056.02e6bc50@pop-server> Hello, I understand that you both have an interest in 55 Squadron in 1918. I have been doing the family history bit and have dug out all sorts of information about my father and his time with 55 Squadron in September 1918. If you are at all interested please visit my web page and follow the link. Please let me know if there are any errors or if there are any additional relevant facts. Thank you, Best wishes, Tony Heyes. Tony Heyes, Perceptual Alternatives, Melbourne, Australia. Lat: 37º 46' 44'' South. Long: 145º 09' 03'' East. email: Tony.Heyes@physics.org Web site: www.sonicpathfinder.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:07:46 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: IPMS US Nationals Message-ID: Shane: > > The categories can be quite arbitrary and annoying:). E.g. a single > > category for 1/48th scale B*-1*9's!! > > >From the POV of a contest organiser, I can only say - tough luck! > >Categories are not determined to by the organisers to benefit the >popular >(echh) subjects, but by the number ofg models that appear. I know this, accept it and agree it is necessary. I understand that they can't have judges doing a category of 80 models. >If you can organise 40 or so Nieuports 11, or 50 Martinsyde Elephants, >or >35 Albatrosse D.III with enough others to make a split necessary to >enable >fair judging the contest organisers will oblige you with you >very own >single category split for 1/x whatevers. Well, we did it for the Nats - a split in 1/72nd scale biplanes - 41 entered. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:10:32 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh Message-ID: <000a01c109a6$4988ae80$0b895ad1@default> Is Lang Kidby a Brisbanian? If so I'll mention the Caboolture show if he happens to discover me stowed away in rear fuselage. Brad -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: RE: Vickers Vimy Flying At Oshkosh >Brad, > >> >> I will ! Wonder if they could use a Canuck observer on the trip? >> > >Surely they must! And there's an airshow at Caboolture (where she was >built) the weekend after our model show IIRC. An ideal coincidence. > >If only.... > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 >********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:00:05 -0500 From: "Kenneth Hagerup" To: Subject: Roden Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <000d01c109ad$35a0b000$33b0fcd1@hppav> I have begun building one of Roden early Fokker D.VIIs and offer the following comments. The fuselage seems to agree more with the D.VII plans in the original Datafile rather than those in the Fokker Anthologies. The smaller parts are exquisitely molded, but some of the larger parts, e.g., both wings and the horizontal stab, have a good deal of flash to remove. There appears to be a flaw in the mold for the upper surface of the trailing edge of the port lower wing. All my kits exhibit the same flaw, a kind of bump across several rib stations. It's not terribly difficult to correct with some sandpaper, but it takes some care to avoid destroying the rib detail.. The biggest challenge I've run across so far is the lower wing to fuselage join. The fuselage is about 1.5mm wider than the gap in the lower wing. Although I haven't tried it yet, I think the easiest fix may be to cut the wings from the center section and either: A. Make a new center section from card and strip for the wing spars, or B. Glue the original center section and pack out the outer edges with plastic. I really like the kit - It's certainly the best 1/72 scale D.VII around, and I look forward to the other versions. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:44:26 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Roden Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD230@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ken says: > The fuselage seems to agree more with the D.VII plans in the original > Datafile rather than those in the Fokker Anthologies. Agreed. Principally being over length a couple of mm aft ofthe cockpit. > > The smaller parts are exquisitely molded, but some of the > larger parts, > e.g., both wings and the horizontal stab, have a good deal of flash to > remove. On mine the horizontal stab has notable flash, the others very little > There appears to be a flaw in the mold for the upper > surface of the > trailing edge of the port lower wing. All my kits exhibit > the same flaw, a > kind of bump across several rib stations. Doesn't appear on mine at all. Together with the lower level of flash (by your description) I'm betting that mine was moulded earlier in the run and the mould has developed some fault. > The biggest challenge I've run across so far is > the lower wing to fuselage join. > The fuselage is about 1.5mm wider than the > gap in the > lower wing. Bummer. However - I agree with you that the kits are the best dinky scale D.VII going. > I look forward to the other versions. Ditto. And at the price I may even buy some extras just to pilfer the 1/72 parabellums to add to some of my Pegasus two seaters. At least there are a multitude of possible schemes to use up the kits! Shane (Mmmm. I have the A/G JG2 decals in 1/48 and would love to make all those colourful D.VII's but imagine the cost and space needed - maybe I need the 1/72 sheets too!) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: WW1 Paints Message-ID: <20010711042015.70301.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, Rosemont lists a line of paints by the name of 'Masterkit'. I'm wondering if it's a misprint of Misterkit or if it is actually a new line. They're acrylic but available as sets only. The ones listed are German. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 16:59:47 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwim'" Subject: FW: Nieuport 23 question Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD234@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hi all, Here's a question from a fellow club member who thinks I'm the fount of knowledge. I'd hate to disappoint him, but what I *know* about Belgian Nieuports is pretty minimal. Can one of our Nieuportophiles - or maybe one of our three Belgian listees - shed some light for this poor man who usually builds F**** W*** aircraft ? > A question Thinking of building the Eduard Nie 23 as >Andre de Meulemeesters a/c to go with the Hanriot. I've a side view > captioned as his in a not too recent SMI review of the Nie 17. >It shows "silver" main with green turtle deck etc on fus. and >presumably green/brown wings/ tail. "yellow" square just behind >cockpit and black sq's on fus. sides. with the "oval" panel in fwd >fus open (with mesh?) How'm I doing so far? I've checked the ww1 >site albeit not in depth yet. got any links or info. I think the >airframe no on the fin was 5025. >cheers JH Thanks Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3513 **********************