WWI Digest 3512 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Just a bit of music news from over the fence... by "dfernet0" 2) RE: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? by "dfernet0" 3) Re: Rogues Gallery by "Michael Kendix" 4) Re: NATS and New Product Update by "Michael Kendix" 5) Re: Rogues Gallery by David Fleming 6) WWI Aero site by James Hudson 7) Update on my Fokker D.VII by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 8) RE: NATS and New Product Update by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 9) RE: Congratulations listees! by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 10) Re: Rogues Gallery by "Michael Kendix" 11) RE: WWI Aero site by Volker Haeusler 12) RE: WWI Aero site by Sharon Henderson 13) More Union Flag stuff by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 14) RE: WWI Aero site by James Hudson 15) RE: WWI Aero site by Volker Haeusler 16) Re: WWI Aero site by "Allen H Besser" 17) Re: Struts problems by "Hans Trauner" 18) Re: DECALS by "Hans Trauner" 19) Re: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? by "Hans Trauner" 20) RE: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? by "Gaston Graf" 21) Caution: ot Zeppelin again by "Hans Trauner" 22) RE: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? by "Gaston Graf" 23) RE: Caution: ot Zeppelin again by "Gaston Graf" 24) Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again by "David C. Fletcher" 25) RE: NATS and New Product Update by "Jay M. Thompson" 26) Re: IPMS US Nationals by "Len Smith" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 08:37:17 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Just a bit of music news from over the fence... Message-ID: <03fb01c10934$ac553820$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Ernie! Glad to see you back on the monkeyhouse! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 2:02 AM Subject: Just a bit of music news from over the fence... > In case anyone's interested, Ernie K. Doe, Emperor of the Universe and > the man responsible for the song "Mother-in-law", died in New Orleans > yesterday from liver and kidney desease. He was 60something. > (sorry for the vagueness on the age, but I already threw the paper out) > No way to make this OT other than to speculate that if E.K.D. had known > of lozenge pattern fabric, he would have made a suit from it. > E. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 08:43:14 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? Message-ID: <042301c10935$813a8fe0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Santa. D. (pretty obvius, isn't it?) ----- Original Message ----- From: cameron rile To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:36 AM Subject: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? > > Folks, > > > I recently received a query on what was Lt Claus > of Jasta 29's first name? Claus's Albatros is > better known as the Australian War Memorial Albatros. > > > > ________________________________________ > Get your email at > http://www.prontomail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:15:37 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: >From: David Fleming >Funny how no-one ever looks like you imagine them ........ > >Will Matt's sucess at the Nats mean we'll finally get to see him ? Or >will someone accept his award on his behalf ? David: The award ceremony took over 3 hours in Chicago. I was sitting next to Matt Bittner. The first hour or more was thanking people and a slide show of models from the 2000 convention. The second part was the announcement of the winners. They had taken photos of almost all the winning entries from each category and showed them on screen as they were announced. They had some technical difficulties that seemed frustrating at the time but when you think of it, nobody is getting paid for doing this so it was a minor miracle that we got through the thing in reasonable shape. Only the junior winners go up to the podium to collect their awards, everything else is simply announced otherwise it would take too long. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:25:33 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: NATS and New Product Update Message-ID: >From: Russell W Niles >Chicago was supposed to be a West Coast happening, but nobody was >willing >to host the party. >East coast next year, Midwest in '03 and West coast in '04 (hopefully >for us left coasters who dont get around much anymore) Russell: This is correct. As Shane mentioned and as John said, Seattle did bid but it was late and would have had to have been exceptional to take it at that stage. The designation of Oklahoma City shows that the E-Board are prepared to stick their necks out, at least in terms of giving the show to a smaller venue... I don't know how to put this without insulting folks from Oklahoma, which I don't want to do. I'm sure the people in Oklahoma City will put in an extra effort to show that the E-Board were right to give them a shot. They beat out Dayton and Minneapolis. Personally, I don't care where it is, as long as there's a cheap direct flight from where I live. Unfortunately, Oklahoma City does not satisfy that criterion for me. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:26:41 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: <3B4AF481.700D3757@dial.pipex.com> Michael Kendix wrote: The award ceremony took over 3 hours in Chicago. I was sitting next to Matt > Bittner. The first hour or more was thanking people and a slide show of > models from the 2000 convention. The second part was the announcement of > the winners. They had taken photos of almost all the winning entries from > each category and showed them on screen as they were announced. They had > some technical difficulties that seemed frustrating at the time but when you > think of it, nobody is getting paid for doing this so it was a minor miracle > that we got through the thing in reasonable shape. Only the junior winners > go up to the podium to collect their awards, everything else is simply > announced otherwise it would take too long. > Sounds like fun !! I can understand the logistics !! Must try to get to an IPMS US Convention some time - sure I've got relatives near Virginia Beach (Mind you, I've got relatives in all English speaking Countries - my Grandmother had 10 sisters and 2 brothers, and we seemed to have exported most of them !!). Maybe someday it'll go back to Orlando & I can sell it on a Disney ticket !! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 08:49:18 -0400 From: James Hudson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: WWI Aero site Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010710084918.009007b0@hcsmail.com> A few weeks ago someone posted a URL that had the descriptions of all of the back issues of WWI Aero and Skyways. I neglected to bookmark it or make note of it. Can someone please tell me what that URL is again? Thanks, Jim H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:56:11 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: Update on my Fokker D.VII Message-ID: <007101c1093f$b2a79000$401ba8c0@office.br.starmedia.com> Hello, folks! Returning from a very welcome Monday holiday, I must tell you that the Revell Fokker D.VII in Berthold's markings is almost ready. However, I must find lozenge decals (I gave up painting the kit decals), hard to get here. If someone has extra decal sheets and wants to trade them, e-mail me off list. The overall result is very good for Marcio's standards :-))))), and perhaps in 1 or 2 weekends (it depends on whether I'l return to my parents' home next weekend) it will be ready and I'll take pictures of it. With best regards from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:38:50 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: NATS and New Product Update Message-ID: <006f01c1093d$465dec20$401ba8c0@office.br.starmedia.com> > Shane > > (In Australia, where IPMS is sadly almost nothing) Be happy. Here, IPMS *IS* nothing. Best regards Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:48:56 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: Congratulations listees! Message-ID: <007001c1093e$af02c060$401ba8c0@office.br.starmedia.com> Here from Brazil, congratulations to all winners, and, why not, also to those who entered their work in the contest. I hope next year I can have something to show here in Sao Paulo. With best regards Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > Andreikor@aol.com > Sent: Segunda-feira, 9 de Julho de 2001 12:00 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Congratulations listees! > > > Congratulations to Matt, Lance and Tom for bringing home the > metal from the > Nats... > you make the list proud! > Cheers, > Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:07:54 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Rogues Gallery Message-ID: >From: David Fleming > >Sounds like fun !! I can understand the logistics !! Must try to get to >an >IPMS US Convention some time - sure I've got relatives near Virginia >Beach >(Mind you, I've got relatives in all English speaking Countries - >my >Grandmother had 10 sisters and 2 brothers, and we seemed to have >exported >most of them !!). Maybe someday it'll go back to Orlando & I >can sell it >on a Disney ticket !! Brent Theobald's Snipe - 3rd in 1/72nd scale Allied biplanes: http://www.squadron.com/old/Sopwith%20Snipe%20Review.html Matt Bittner's Morain AI - 1st in 1/72nd scale Allied biplanes: http://www.internetmodeler.com/2000/may2000/aviation/mos_ai.htm Lance Krieg's FE2 (I think that's right) - 2nd in 1/48th scale biplanes: http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Krieg/British/index.html Other listees won stuff for off-topic stuff - Tom Morgan had a submarine that won an award, Jack Gartner picked up at least a couple of awards, Matt picked up 3 other awards. There's other stuff I missed but that's what I can remember. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:59:32 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: WWI Aero site Message-ID: Jim, that was http://www.ww1aeroplanesinc.org/docs/back_issues.htm However, I have now problems accessing that site - "File not Found". Either there is a typing error in it (but I dionīt think so, as I bookmarked that page dircetly), or their server is down at this moment. Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of James Hudson Sent: 10 July 2001 19:54 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: WWI Aero site A few weeks ago someone posted a URL that had the descriptions of all of the back issues of WWI Aero and Skyways. I neglected to bookmark it or make note of it. Can someone please tell me what that URL is again? Thanks, Jim H. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:05:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: WWI Aero site Message-ID: <20010710140547.66792.qmail@web9802.mail.yahoo.com> The site is up now -- or at least, it was when I accessed it a moment ago. :-) Thanks for the URL!! I didn't want to have to bid against people on eBay, who were pards from the list... Cheers, Rev. Sharon --- Volker Haeusler wrote: > Jim, > > that was > > http://www.ww1aeroplanesinc.org/docs/back_issues.htm > > However, I have now problems accessing that site - > "File not Found". Either > there is a typing error in it (but I dionīt think > so, as I bookmarked that > page dircetly), or their server is down at this > moment. > > Volker > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org > [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of James > Hudson > Sent: 10 July 2001 19:54 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: WWI Aero site > > > > A few weeks ago someone posted a URL that had the > descriptions of all > of the back issues of WWI Aero and Skyways. I > neglected to bookmark > it or make note of it. Can someone please tell me > what that URL is > again? > > Thanks, > > Jim H. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:07:49 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: More Union Flag stuff Message-ID: When we were discussing this issue a few weeks ago, a question was raised about how the flag was postioned on the wings. As you may recall, on the fuselage, the front of the plane counted as the "Mast" so that the Scottish St. Andrews white saltire was in the superior position. I've poured through my modest WW1 library (in between research on ot cagemasts and torpedo blisters) and finally found an illustration that may provide an answer for how the Union Flag was positioned on the lower wings. The illustration is from Phelan's "Heroes and Aeroplanes of the Great War" and shows a Bristol scout's bottom wings. The flags are painted on as if the fuselage is the "mast" with the prop as the top. That means that the St. Andrew's saltire is toward the leading edge on both wings. Marc (Hoping that made sense, since I'm in a chemically induced haze after having a root canal.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:23:44 -0400 From: James Hudson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: WWI Aero site Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010710102344.008f39c0@hcsmail.com> At 09:17 AM 7/10/01 -0400, Volker wrote: >Jim, > >that was > >http://www.ww1aeroplanesinc.org/docs/back_issues.htm > >However, I have now problems accessing that site - "File not Found". Either >there is a typing error in it (but I dionīt think so, as I bookmarked that >page dircetly), or their server is down at this moment. > >Volker Thanks Volker. I just tried the site and it worked for me. Jim H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:19:38 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: WWI Aero site Message-ID: Sharon said: "The site is up now -- or at least, it was when I accessed it a moment ago. :-) Thanks for the URL!! I didn't want to have to bid against people on eBay, who were pards from the list... Cheers, Rev. Sharon" Yep, works also again over here - it might also have been my ISP. However, at least for me it takes *awfully* long to download - definitely a page not only to bookmark, but also to save... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:44:45 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: WWI Aero site Message-ID: <006a01c1094e$ebb82ee0$055b143f@compaq-computer> I had no problems accessing the site. It IS a LARGE file tho. That may have something to do with it if the net was real busy. Glad you sent this. I'm a WWI Aero and have had a problem finding them on the net. Jim Hudson's query was in regard to something I no doubt missed while the list ignored me most of last month. Thanks, Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: Volker Haeusler To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:16 AM Subject: RE: WWI Aero site >Jim, > >that was > >http://www.ww1aeroplanesinc.org/docs/back_issues.htm > >However, I have now problems accessing that site - "File not Found". Either >there is a typing error in it (but I dionīt think so, as I bookmarked that >page dircetly), or their server is down at this moment. > >Volker > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:47:09 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Struts problems Message-ID: <000f01c10957$9658eee0$75a272d4@FRITZweb> Jack, thanks for the advice. I have done a similiar method to thicken up PE parts, as suggested, but it did not come to my mind to use it for complete struts. Hans > Here is a method I have used to get excellent strut results from thin brass > sheet. Cut the sheet and shape the outline of your struts. Then spray one > side of the strut with Zip Kicker or whatever you use to cause CA to set > fast. Let dry. Then, using a toothpick, run a bead of CA along the length > of the strut in one smooth motion. After the CA is set, flip the strut over > and do the same thing on the other side. > > You may need to spray and repeat once or twice, but you will build up an > airfoil section that you can then easily sand to final shape. Voila! The > airfoil shape with the strength of brass! > > This works equally well on the PE struts that come with some kits, e.g. > Eduard. > > The ONLY downside to this method is that you must have your struts cut to > properly length, shaped and fitted, as the CA will not tolerate very much > flexing of the brass before it pops off. That being said, I have several > models that have had struts formed by this method for over five years, and > the struts remain perfectly intact. > > HTH, > > Jack Gartner > diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:52:29 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: DECALS Message-ID: <001f01c10958$52c99840$75a272d4@FRITZweb> Tom, as already said the carrier film is printed all over, so extra cutting work is needed. They are printed on the thick side, not comparable to aeromaster, Eagle or Microscale. I had to use solvents, but I had to use it over streaked = rough Fokker wings. I was not satisfied with white and yellow. Carrier film is thick, but not the printed colours, so be careful and take a decision if undercoating is necessary. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Plesha" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:59 AM Subject: DECALS > Hi- > I'm going to use Blue Rider Decals for the crosses on the captured Pup I am > doing. I have never used their decals before. Anyone care to share any > comments about them ? > TIA > Later > Tom > S.E.MI. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:32:21 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? Message-ID: <00a801c1095d$e4fed900$75a272d4@FRITZweb> Cameron, Diego is right. Ltn. Clauss started flying as an artillery spotter. His observer was Rudolph Rentier. Not joking: No idea what's his first name. I have checked all my sources, including Kookabura's Albatros Scouts Described and JastaPilots. Even the last source lists only " 17 Dec. 1917, Ltn. Clauss Jasta 29, POW." Maybe the Aussies had recorded it. Try and ask: Australian War Memorial Research Centre at http://www.asap.unimelb.edu.au/asa/directory/data/15.htm Sorry, but I could not locate an url for the Australian War Museum where Clauss' Albatros is on display. Or is this Museum identical with the War Memorial? Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "cameron rile" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:37 PM Subject: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? > > Folks, > > > I recently received a query on what was Lt Claus > of Jasta 29's first name? Claus's Albatros is > better known as the Australian War Memorial Albatros. > > > > ________________________________________ > Get your email at > http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:34:30 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? Message-ID: ROTFMAO - that answer could be only yours, Dee ;o). So Ltn. S.Claus was a Hun, huh??? That explains why he uses to fly, and why somebody gave out the warning: Beware of the Hun in the Sun. huahuahua.... still laughing :) > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > dfernet0 > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:47 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? > > > Santa. > D. > (pretty obvius, isn't it?) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: cameron rile > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 8:36 AM > Subject: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > I recently received a query on what was Lt Claus > > of Jasta 29's first name? Claus's Albatros is > > better known as the Australian War Memorial Albatros. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > Get your email at > > http://www.prontomail.com > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:38:54 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Caution: ot Zeppelin again Message-ID: <00d401c1095e$cf34bbc0$75a272d4@FRITZweb> Ladies and Gentlemen, some weeks ago there was a Zeppelin thread, including the question which Zeppelin the Testors vacform kit was. I answered: Hindenburg. Wrong. It was the Graf Zeppelin. I found it out reading Brad Hansen's WWI in Plastic. Sorry. Regards, Aloysius Alzheimer, Munich ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:40:30 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? Message-ID: Perhaps Dan San Abott knows the complete name of Ltn. Clauss? He once gave me the information about his aircraft as I posted that picture on my website. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > Cameron, > Diego is right. Ltn. Clauss started flying as an artillery spotter. His > observer was Rudolph Rentier. > > Not joking: No idea what's his first name. I have checked all my sources, > including Kookabura's Albatros Scouts Described and JastaPilots. Even the > last source lists only > > " 17 Dec. 1917, Ltn. Clauss Jasta 29, POW." > > Maybe the Aussies had recorded it. Try and ask: > Australian War Memorial Research Centre at > http://www.asap.unimelb.edu.au/asa/directory/data/15.htm > > Sorry, but I could not locate an url for the Australian War Museum where > Clauss' Albatros is on display. Or is this Museum identical with the War > Memorial? > > Hans > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cameron rile" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:37 PM > Subject: Anyone know Lt Claus's first name? > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > I recently received a query on what was Lt Claus > > of Jasta 29's first name? Claus's Albatros is > > better known as the Australian War Memorial Albatros. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > Get your email at > > http://www.prontomail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:43:37 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Caution: ot Zeppelin again Message-ID: Speaking about the Zepps: A visitor of Jasta Boelcke asked me for a source where he could find more information about the Zeppelin raiders of WW1. Can anybody please help me with that? Unfortunately I don't know much about the Zeppelins. I only own one good book about the Hindenburg disaster. Cheers! Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Hans > Trauner > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:42 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Caution: ot Zeppelin again > > > Ladies and Gentlemen, > some weeks ago there was a Zeppelin thread, including the question which > Zeppelin the Testors vacform kit was. I answered: Hindenburg. > > Wrong. It was the Graf Zeppelin. I found it out reading Brad > Hansen's WWI in > Plastic. > > Sorry. > > Regards, > Aloysius Alzheimer, Munich > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:12:22 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Caution: ot Zeppelin again Message-ID: <3B4B3776.7020602@mars.ark.com> Gaston Graf wrote: > Speaking about the Zepps: A visitor of Jasta Boelcke asked me for a source > where he could find more information about the Zeppelin raiders of WW1... The Bundesmarine base at Nordholz (near Cuxhaven) had a museum which was dedicated to WWI Zeppelin operations, but it was only open by appointment. It was over twenty years ago when I visited Nordholz - maybe one of our Deutschland representatives has more up-to-date information. Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:29:38 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: NATS and New Product Update Message-ID: Y'all just come down here like, weeee'll put yuh on a grite show! Just bring you anti-tornado and hail gear, Oklahoma City's an exciting place to be in that respect this time of the year. Jay In Tulsa "By God" Oklahoma The power of redheads to make men do stuff, including moving to places like Oklahoma, should never be underestimated... -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Michael Kendix Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 7:36 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: NATS and New Product Update >From: Russell W Niles >Chicago was supposed to be a West Coast happening, but nobody was >willing >to host the party. >East coast next year, Midwest in '03 and West coast in '04 (hopefully >for us left coasters who dont get around much anymore) Russell: This is correct. As Shane mentioned and as John said, Seattle did bid but it was late and would have had to have been exceptional to take it at that stage. The designation of Oklahoma City shows that the E-Board are prepared to stick their necks out, at least in terms of giving the show to a smaller venue... I don't know how to put this without insulting folks from Oklahoma, which I don't want to do. I'm sure the people in Oklahoma City will put in an extra effort to show that the E-Board were right to give them a shot. They beat out Dayton and Minneapolis. Personally, I don't care where it is, as long as there's a cheap direct flight from where I live. Unfortunately, Oklahoma City does not satisfy that criterion for me. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:08:04 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: IPMS US Nationals Message-ID: <000a01c10968$9236d3c0$57887ed4@mesh> Michael, Surely you must be joking or mistaken ! I would not dispute that Matts Morane Saulnier AI is deserving of an award, but even a judge must have seen that it is not a biplane. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kendix" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:32 AM Subject: IPMS US Nationals > Fellow Listees: > > I just returned from Chicago after spending two really fine days at the IPMS > USA National convention. > > It was my pleasure to meet a number of listees in person. For the first > time, I met Messrs Bittner, Cato, Krieg, Height, Barry Stetler (Rosemont), > Theobald, Huggins and Morgan. Sorry if I forgot anyone. It was also my > pleasure to hook up with some of Matt Bittner's friends, who allowed me to > hang out with them for a couple of nice meals. > > I have been off the list and the archives are down, so I don't know how much > has been discussed. Matt Bittner's Moraine AI won 1st in Allied 1/72nd > scale biplanes, Brent Thoebald's Soviet Snipe was 2nd. A Japanese Cypress > from last year's winner, Bill Devins won 2nd. First in Axis 1/72nd scale > biplanes was an Eduard Albatros D.V with the white starred fuselage. Lance > Krieg's DH-2 was 2nd in 1/48th scale biplane. There were 41 1/72nd scale > biplanes, hence, the split. > > Some fantastically insane person spent 3 years building a U-boat underground > factory scene; he won "Most Popular". Best of Show was a huge Bradley tank > in 1/16th scale or something. > > I didn't win anything, nor did I deserve to, but I had an excellent time. > Virginia Beach beckons! > > Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3512 **********************