WWI Digest 3472 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks by "Bob Pearson" 2) ot porthole request by "Bob Pearson" 3) Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) by "Bob Pearson" 4) Re: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks by "Lance Krieg" 5) RE: Travelling in the UK by "Nigel Rayner" 6) Re: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks by KarrArt@aol.com 7) Re: A birthday dream by KarrArt@aol.com 8) Re: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks by Michael and Sharon Alvarado 9) Re: Got My Bebe Too! by Michael and Sharon Alvarado 10) Re: Americal/Gryphon?? by Michael and Sharon Alvarado 11) Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) by MAnde72343@aol.com 12) RE: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks by Shane Weier 13) Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) by Todd Hayes 14) Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) by MAnde72343@aol.com 15) I'm back (and new to many)... by "Jeff Wilson" 16) Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) by Todd Hayes 17) Interesting item on eBay web site item#1159401172: Uniform of WW1 US Pilot ,Lafayette Escadrille by dcalhoun01@snet.net 18) RE: I'm back (and new to many)... by Shane Weier 19) Re: A birthday dream by Marc Flake 20) RE: Modeling frustrations by Marc Flake 21) Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1159401172: Uniform of WW1 US Pilot ,Lafayette Escadrille by Todd Hayes 22) RE: A birthday dream by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 23) RE: Modeling frustrations by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 24) Re: A birthday dream by "Steven Perry" 25) Hansa-Brandenburg HD.I Kits by Todd Hayes 26) Re: RE: I'm back (and new to many)... by "Jeff Wilson" 27) RE: I'm back (and new to many)... by Todd Hayes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:23:22 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks Message-ID: <200106252040.f5PKebE74657@mail.rapidnet.net> Psst. . Andrei. .. you have that in Illustrator? Oh wait I think I did it already. .. may have to try some Alps ones as soon as I get around to hooking this thing up.. .. I have a new shelf unit to display the Alps printer .. now I just have to get a couple of adaptors to get it into my scsi chain. It makes sense that the jack is handed ... otherwise you would see ghostly shapes when looking at it against a light .. It also makes one wonder how many other markings are handed that we add to various models/illustrations by the best guess method. Bob nb: still the warlike Flower (turns out I'm pretty well scratchbuilding everything above the hull) ---------- >From: Andreikor@aol.com > One thing I have noticed, however, regarding the Union Jacks, (or, I > understand, Union Flags) is that they should be 'handed'... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:43:49 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: ot porthole request Message-ID: <200106252040.f5PKegE74669@mail.rapidnet.net> As this is by far and away the best group of modelers I know of, I'll pick your brains on my current stumper which is basically ot ..although I guess it could also apply to a large scale Aviatik D.I where the control panel is illuminated by the porthole over it (whew .. made it OT). On my 1/72 Flower I have just scratchbuilt the engine room skylight (60 pieces so far as opposed to the kit's ONE part). . anyhow I need to add something for the scuttles on each of the little hatches. I was going to drill out some thin styrene and then use a hole punch to cut this out leaving a thin circle to glue down to the hatch cover. However this is too large. . I have been unable to find anything else to use and don't really want to break down and use the GLS scuttle set (1/72 wingnuts included) as then I would have to go back and get really anal on the parts I have already done (ie: 126 piece hedgehog sans bombs). Any thoughts? I need something about 4mm in diameter that I can hollow the centre out to add the glass (future or epoxy). Please reply offlist to corvette@smmlonline.com Regards, Bob Pearson PS if anyone here is interested in Flowers and other escort ships, I have started a small mailing list devoted to them. Send a message to the above address and I shall add you to it ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:52:51 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) Message-ID: <200106252050.f5PKoEE75152@mail.rapidnet.net> Somewhere in the netherworld of lost parcels is one containing a Tom's Modelworks 1 1/2 Strutter and a HB Starstrutter (among other items) that another listee was trading to me four years ago.. . some unknown (expletive deleted) intercepted it and it never did arrive here. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:15:33 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks Message-ID: I'm confused by the idea of a "handed" Union flag. Michael explained the fact that there is both a red and white St. Andrew's cross, and these are different in relation to each other in each of the four cantons of the flag. I was told that this prevented the flag from being hoist upside-down; it's identical when viewed either way, so there IS no upside-down. It's a confusing flag, to be sure, because those crosses don't continue through the center as you would expect them to. I wonder how many people on the street in London could draw it correctly... but how is it handed? And is this handing incidental to the difficulty in remembering the proper way to paint the flag - like a mistake on some planes? Tell us more... Lance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:21:50 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Travelling in the UK Message-ID: <000001c0fdc5$3b05e2c0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Coming late to this as usual, due to business travel around Europe. Agree with all of what's been said, with one omission (I think, but someone might have mentioned it...) - Bovington Tank Museum. Absolutely amazing place with loads of OT tanks (and you can sit inside a Mk I or IV, can't remember which it is, or even a III perhaps) - they do sometimes have this in a working display outside as well. They also have loads of great ot tanks too. If you have young (ish) children, there is quite a good playground with some old tank turets for the kids to climb on. My five year old loved it. The Museum of Army Aviation at Middle Wallop is quite good, but OT content is limited - it's a Sopwith Pup they have there now, not an SE5a. Again, some nice helicopters (on the ground) for the kids to play in. But Shuttleworth is the place you *have* to go, and another benefit is that it is in beautiful part of the countryside in a picturesque village, thatched cottages et al. Have fun, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:39:57 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks Message-ID: <11a.c5fe57.286917bd@aol.com> In a message dated 6/25/01 2:51:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bpearson@rapidnet.net writes: << It also makes one wonder how many other markings are handed that we add to various models/illustrations by the best guess method. Bob >> anybody remember the old Windsock issue demonstrating the way Nieuport rudder numbers were not painted in the same style on both sides? RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:39:58 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: A birthday dream Message-ID: <8f.c5b1ea0.286917be@aol.com> In a message dated 6/25/01 4:48:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: << Nice party, huh? D. >> Ohhhhhhhhh......my poor head.............I can't even remember who won the wet T-shirt contest. Happy B'day dude! RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:56:10 -0400 From: Michael and Sharon Alvarado To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks Message-ID: <3B37C188.19FA0138@verizon.net> Andrei, Thanks for the detail, having looked at the matter, you are absolutely correct and I stand educated. By the way I was great meeting you at Rhinebeck yesterday. The trip was a long one but it was worth it. The wife and I agree we have to do this again. Alvie Andreikor@aol.com wrote: > Mike notes: > Squadron, RFC and 1250 in early red and white roundels and Union > Jacks on the fuselage.> > > Thanks for the great write-up, Mike. I have the kit and still enjoyed reading > it! > One thing I have noticed, however, regarding the Union Jacks, (or, I > understand, Union Flags) is that they should be 'handed'... that is, they are > NOT identical on either side of the aircraft. I noticed this when researching > the markings for some 1/72 scale markings I made years ago, which were > commercially produced, and went to great lengths to to this properly, > providing artwork for both versions. Unfortunately, the manufacturer thought > he would save himself some time and photographically reproduced the one piece > only. So I never ended up with both versions. > Apparently, this is not a well-known fact. No other manufacturer has ever > reproduced them this way, and even when questioning Leo Opdycke (WWI Aero)... > it was a surprise to him. Careful study of Bristol Scout photos bears this > out, though. > > Cheers, > Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:01:11 -0400 From: Michael and Sharon Alvarado To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Got My Bebe Too! Message-ID: <3B37C2B6.FB81A9B6@verizon.net> Sure, All Eduard has to do is wash the molds in hot water, dry them on high heat and they'll shrink down a size to 1/72. More companies should do this. ;^b Alvie Graham Hunter wrote: > Stopped in at my local plastic dealer for a fix on Saturday and he had my > Nieuport 11 (as well as Tom Morgan's and an extra to boot). This is a lovely > kit as has been mentioned by other listees (and ex listees). As mentioned > the wings display Eduards patent starving cow rib detail. But otherwise no > complaints :-) In fact the detail that Eduard has put into the cockpit bits > and such is very nice indeed. The LeRhone is very nice - no need to scratch > one from over 100 peices like on the Bristol I did :-) All this and its in > THE SCALE (1/48 of course).... > > But don't worry Matt I'm sure Eduard will release one in that unmentionable > scale ;^) > > Graham ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:18:33 -0400 From: Michael and Sharon Alvarado To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Americal/Gryphon?? Message-ID: <3B37C6C6.199A7B76@verizon.net> John, I haven't place an order with Americals in about a year but service from Glen has always been prompt. I suspect he's having problems boating/swimming/wading to the Post Office at this time. Houston is not set up to deal with the kind of rain they've had recently. By the way it was great meeting you and your lovely wife at Rhinebeck yeaterday. We will definitely have to do that again. Alvie John_Impenna@hyperion.com wrote: > Hi Folks, > Has anyone placed an order recently with Americals?? I sent in an order > almost a month ago and haven't heard back. Is Glen away??? I was just > asking before sending a snail mail inquiry.... > > Regards, > John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:28:51 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) Message-ID: <35.17035083.28692333@aol.com> Graham, Eduard DID one, it was one of their earlier attempts, old "flash" technology. However the kit was picked up by Artur/Flashback, and I think John Roll can still get you one Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:35:06 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Gavia's Bristol & Union Jacks Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD16A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Andrei says: > One thing I have noticed, however, regarding the Union Jacks, (or, I > understand, Union Flags) is that they should be 'handed'... > that is, they are > NOT identical on either side of the aircraft. I don't doubt this, but I'm really curious as to why it should be so. The Union flag is so drawn that the red saltire isn't centred in the white saltire - in the canton and foot the red is lower than centred, on both fly quadrants it's higher. What I find curious is this. Flags are *normally* (at least in societies where we read left to right) depicted with the staff on the left and fly end on the right. If this were done on an aircraft it's going to look the same on both sides of the aircraft and identical decals will do the job. Andrei appears to be describing flags drawn so that the staff end is always forward, in which case, on the starboard side, the right hand side as viewed would be the staff end - thereby making the hair of observant vexillologists stand on end. The only reason I can imagine for this abberant behaviour is the possibility that the flag marking might be seen through a surface - like a marking applied to a rudder - in which case the logical way to mark the aircraft (to my mind) is as if the rudder is the field and the kingpost the hoist (thereby putting the right reading flag on the port side and the odd one on the Starboard) It doesn't appear much of an issue with the Union Jack, but think about the implications of the US flag painted with the canton on the *right* - this is very, very rarely depicted - or any nation which has vertically divided asymetric flags (The stars on the US flag are in the canton, that is, the top corner nearest the staff) FWIW Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:42:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) Message-ID: <20010625234231.96676.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Merrill, AMC/Flashback did several Eduard kits but the HB. D.I wasn't one of them. I wish it was. Todd --- MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > Graham, Eduard DID one, it was one of their earlier > attempts, old "flash" > technology. However the kit was picked up by > Artur/Flashback, and I think > John Roll can still get you one > Merrill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:49:23 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) Message-ID: <8e.17715b52.28692803@aol.com> With apologies, you're right, it was the Berg D1 I was thinking of. Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:07:28 +1000 From: "Jeff Wilson" To: Subject: I'm back (and new to many)... Message-ID: Hello, some of you might remember me (greetings to Shane W and Shane & Lorna), most will not. I was a member of the list a little while ago, but lost interest in WWI modelling for a while (a cardinal sin, but I'm in recovery now) and did a few from that other big conflict of the 20th Century (no one-oh-thingies, however). My most recent effort can be seen at: http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/central-services/Photo/P-40_Photos/ But please be warned that it is decidedly OT. Why am I back? Putting it simply, I bought the new Eduard Bebe and Gavia Bristol the other day and I am gobsmacked at just how good they are. I'm in a quandary over which to do first (or the Hanriot floatplane that was hiding in storage) and they have pushed all else aside on the bench at the moment. A couple of questions if I may, as my WWI reference library is somewhat undernourished... The Union flags in my Bristol sample are rather off register (and I note there is a thread currently running in regard to these flags) and that is the option I would prefer to do. Any idea where I might obtain replacements, or shall I have to make the best of a bad thing? I'm tempted towards 'Zigomar' for the Bebe. Should it be CDL overall as shown in the instructions, or should it have darker tapes along flying surface and fuselage edges as per Alberto Casirati's superb 1/72 example: http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Casirati/Nieuport/Ni11-stbdlg.jpg Please note that I am not a micrometer modeller - I model for the end result on the shelf and the enjoyment I had in getting there. Modelling techniques are more important to me than small dimensional or shape errors - but I do like the overall effect to be accurate, hence the question regarding the Bebe. I hope I can bring another worthwhile voice to this forum - RMS is a cultural desert these days... All the best to all, Jeff Jeffrey Wilson Photography Unit Research School of Biological Sciences Australian National University Acton, Canberra, ACT, 0200 Phone +61 (0)2 6125 3635 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:18:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brandenburg D.I (Star Stutter) Message-ID: <20010626001803.85963.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> I wish you were right. That was one of the Eduard kits I was sure Flashback would rerelease. The originals sold practically as fast as they were manufactured. I had to scramble fast to get the one I have. Todd --- MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > With apologies, you're right, it was the Berg D1 I > was thinking of. > Merrill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:23:50 PDT From: dcalhoun01@snet.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1159401172: Uniform of WW1 US Pilot ,Lafayette Escadrille Message-ID: <200106260023.f5Q0Noq09645@bareil.ebay.com> Check out these photos! J.Hall must be James Norman Hall. He went on to write Mutany on the Bounty, and the rare 2 volume set on the Lafayette Flying Corps. Wish I had this kind of money, look at all of the gear! Dave C Title of item: Uniform of WW1 US Pilot ,Lafayette Escadrille Seller: orgeln12 Starts: Jun-23-01 23:10:15 PDT Ends: Jun-30-01 23:10:15 PDT Price: Starts at $800.00 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1159401172 Item Description: Note::: The steelhelmet on picture does NOT belong to the Uniform.This Uniform is a original WW1 Pilot Uniform of a Lt.J.Hall.( has inscription inside J.Hall LE )Presumably LE means Lafayette Escadrille so I was told,whatever that is.The Uniform has Jacket with Pilotbadge & insignas,trousers,2 pairs of leater leggins,visor cap,2 complete leather belts with shoulder strap & Pistol Holster,leather flying helmet,& the blankett.The Jacket has a few minor moth holes but considering it was worn in WW1 & is some 80 odd years old,it is in good shape.The leather equipment is very good. Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:24:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: I'm back (and new to many)... Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD16E@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Jeff says: > some of you might remember me Nope. Who are you? ;-) > did a few from > that other big conflict of the 20th Century (no > one-oh-thingies, however). My most recent effort can be seen at: > > http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/central-services/Photo/P-40_Photos/ > > But please be warned that it is decidedly OT. Aside from the blasphemy and backsliding, you need to remember that On Topic is OT and off topic is ot :-) > Why am I back? Putting it simply, I bought the new Eduard > Bebe and Gavia Bristol the other day You *swine* ! How come you can get them is deepest darkest Cranberry and I don't have either yet? >I hope I can bring another worthwhile voice to this forum - >RMS is a cultural desert these days... Nice to see you back in the fold mate. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:23:44 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: A birthday dream Message-ID: <3B37D610.207A@airmail.net> D. I woulda been there but the yardbirds cracked the undercarriage of my Navy Gray Sopwith Camel as it was being stowed on the USS Texas. Marc (I sent this earlier from work -- in a somewhat different form -- but didn't see it in the digests, so I'm sending it again from home.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:27:41 -0500 From: Marc Flake To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Modeling frustrations Message-ID: <3B37D6FD.D67@airmail.net> I wasn't going to bring this up because, in part, it's rather embarassing, but there are no coincidences. Perhaps my mis-steps can be taken as a lesson for others. Warning, this is a long post. Among several other projects on my bench, I'm building two 1/48 scale Sopwith Camels, one from SMER, the other from Monogram. The SMER bird is going together wonderfully. Everything fits, the seams sand out easily and the paint is going on smoothly. Not so for the Monogram. After sanding out the raised lines representing the aerlions (these were later rescribed), I decided to sand off the rest of the "starving cow" ribs. I was getting tired of sanding after getting to my second-finest grit and decided to try something different. I painted on several coats of Future (floor polish) to "fill-in" the scratches. It took about three coats, but the result was as smooth as if I had spent all weekend polishing the surfaces with 1200 grit paper. After applying the appropriate enamel paints on either suface of both wings and letting them dry, I proceeded to attach them to the fuselage. This was when I noticed a distinct anomaly. The top wing had a dihedral. I should have realized this way before this point. ANYbodyelse on the list would have known upon fondling the virgin plastic. But, I guess I had "target fixation" and didn't notice it until this point. To make it worse, the bottom wing's dihedral was too pronounced, resulting in an almost curved appearance. Upon further exploration of the parts, the spreader bar was also "warped." Undoubtably, this kit had spent some time in a hot attic. No worries, I said to myself, and proceeded to heat some water to near boiling point. I placed the upper wing in the water, let it soften, then pulled it out and gently returned the wing to it's proper shape. The next morning, I checked to make sure it had not "remembered" it's previous shape and was pleased to see it sitting straight on the workbench. However, on closer inspection, I noticed tiny little wrinkles along the trailing edge and around the cockpit cut-out (if that's what it's called). Obviously, the hot water had either wrinkled the paint or the Future underneath. No problem, I told myself, and proceeded to strip off the paint with some PollyScale ELO. But as the paint was removed, more damage was revealed. Apparently, during the bending, I had cracked the Future. I tried removing the future with Windex (ammonia-laced window cleaner) but was unsuccessfull. I also tried sanding it away, creating an even bigger mess. I decided to fight fire with fire and put on a few coats of Future to "even it out." Even this didn't work. So I applied paint (I'm using Xtracolor RFC Green), and more paint, and more paint. Finally, I have a nice smooth upper wing again. I took care of the curved lower wings with a hair dryer. And I'm not even going to mention the trouble I'm having redoing the struts - this post is already too long and I'm still wrestling with this problem. I've put aside the Camels for now, focusing on a Pearl Harbor cagemast battleship I'm building for a club contest. I shall return to OT modeling soon. Marc (I also sent this earlier from work but didn't see it in the digests.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:33:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1159401172: Uniform of WW1 US Pilot ,Lafayette Escadrille Message-ID: <20010626003346.4869.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> I'd say an item like this belongs at the NASM. If this is really James Hall's uniform, it is national treasure for two countries, France and the USA. Todd --- dcalhoun01@snet.net wrote: > Check out these photos! J.Hall must be James Norman > Hall. He went on to write Mutany on the Bounty, and > the rare 2 volume set on the Lafayette Flying Corps. > Wish I had this kind of money, look at all of the > gear! > Dave C > > Title of item: Uniform of WW1 US Pilot ,Lafayette > Escadrille > Seller: orgeln12 > Starts: Jun-23-01 23:10:15 PDT > Ends: Jun-30-01 23:10:15 PDT > Price: Starts at $800.00 > To bid on the item, go to: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1159401172 > > > Item Description: > Note::: The steelhelmet on picture does NOT belong > to the Uniform.This Uniform is a original WW1 Pilot > Uniform of a Lt.J.Hall.( has inscription inside > J.Hall LE )Presumably LE means Lafayette Escadrille > so I was told,whatever that is.The Uniform has > Jacket with Pilotbadge & insignas,trousers,2 pairs > of leater leggins,visor cap,2 complete leather belts > with shoulder strap & Pistol Holster,leather flying > helmet,& the blankett.The Jacket has a few minor > moth holes but considering it was worn in WW1 & is > some 80 odd years old,it is in good shape.The > leather equipment is very good. > > Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading > Community at http://www.ebay.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:09:53 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: Subject: RE: A birthday dream Message-ID: I woulda been there but the dockyard mateys cracked the undercarriage of my Navy Gray Sopwith Camel as it was being loaded onto the USS Texas. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:34:39 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: Subject: RE: Modeling frustrations Message-ID: I wasn't going to bring this up because, in part, it's rather embarassing, but there are no coincidences. Perhaps my mis-steps can be taken as a lesson for others. Warning, this is a long post. Among several other projects on my bench, I'm building two 1/48 scale Sopwith Camels, one from SMER, the other from Monogram. The SMER bird is going together wonderfully. Everything fits, the seams sand out easily and the paint is going on smoothly. Not so for the Monogram. After sanding out the raised lines representing the aerlions (these were later rescribed), I decided to sand off the rest of the "starving cow" ribs. I was getting tired of sanding after getting to my second-finest grit and decided to try something different. I painted on several coats of Future (floor polish) to "fill-in" the scratches. It took about three coats, but the result was as smooth as if I had spent all weekend polishing the surfaces with 1200 grit paper. After applying the appropriate enamel paints on either suface of both wings and letting them dry, I proceeded to attach them to the fuselage. This was when I noticed a distinct anomaly. The top wing had a dihedral. I should have realized this way before this point. ANYbodyelse on the list would have known upon fondling the virgin plastic. But, I guess I had "target fixation" and didn't notice it until this point. To make it worse, the bottom wing's dihedral was too pronounced, resulting in an almost curved appearance. Upon further exploration of the parts, the spreader bar was also "warped." Undoubtably, this kit had spent some time in a hot attic. No worries, I said to myself, and proceeded to heat some water to near boiling point. I placed the upper wing in the water, let it soften, then pulled it out and gently returned the wing to it's proper shape. The next morning, I checked to make sure it had not "remembered" it's previous shape and was pleased to see it sitting straight on the workbench. However, on closer inspection, I noticed tiny little wrinkles along the trailing edge and around the cockpit cut-out (if that's what it's called). Obviously, the hot water had either wrinkled the paint or the Future underneath. No problem, I told myself, and proceeded to strip off the paint with some PollyScale ELO. But as the paint was removed, more damage was revealed. Apparently, during the bending, I had cracked the Future. I tried removing the future with Windex (ammonia-laced window cleaner) but was unsuccessfull. I also tried sanding it away, creating an even bigger mess. I decided to fight fire with fire and put on a few coats of Future to "even it out." Even this didn't work. So I applied paint (I'm using Xtracolor RFC Green), and more paint, and more paint. Finally, I have a nice smooth upper wing again. I took care of the curved lower wings with a hair dryer. ANd I'm not even going to mention the trouble I'm having redoing the struts - this post is already too long and I'm still wrestling with this problem. I've put aside the Camels for now, focusing on a Pearl Harbor cagemast battleship I'm building for a club contest. I shall return to OT modeling soon. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:42:44 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: A birthday dream Message-ID: <000d01c0fdd8$ea5cfde0$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Happy Birthday Diego. And many more. Wonderful party, thanks for the invite :-) When do we see the sketches? sp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:40:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Hansa-Brandenburg HD.I Kits Message-ID: <20010626004036.5418.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> I'm not sure if they're still available either, but I bought a 1:48 Czech Master HB. D.I from the old AvUSK a couple of years ago. They don't advertise any 1:48 Czech Master kits now, but they might still have some left. I bought one of the five they had. Maybe the other four are still there. $28. The rumor was that this kit was the basis of the Eduard kit. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:40:57 +1000 From: "Jeff Wilson" To: Subject: Re: RE: I'm back (and new to many)... Message-ID: Shane, I got them both from Earl at NKR - ordered them on Friday, they arrived at work Monday morning and I fondled plastic last night. And you thought Queensland was the best place to be... Sorry 'bout the OT stuff-up, just following external guidelines. My booboo and it shan't happen again. Jeff >>> sdw@qld.mim.com.au - 26/6/01 10:34 AM >>> Jeff says: > some of you might remember me Nope. Who are you? ;-) > did a few from > that other big conflict of the 20th Century (no > one-oh-thingies, however). My most recent effort can be seen at: > > http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/central-services/Photo/P-40_Photos/ > > But please be warned that it is decidedly OT. Aside from the blasphemy and backsliding, you need to remember that On Topic is OT and off topic is ot :-) > Why am I back? Putting it simply, I bought the new Eduard > Bebe and Gavia Bristol the other day You *swine* ! How come you can get them is deepest darkest Cranberry and I don't have either yet? >I hope I can bring another worthwhile voice to this forum - >RMS is a cultural desert these days... Nice to see you back in the fold mate. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:44:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: I'm back (and new to many)... Message-ID: <20010626004437.5788.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Shane and all, It seems to me that Eduard is distributing their kits alot faster than they used to. It used to be at least a month before they made their way from Europe to the US. Todd --- Shane Weier wrote: > Jeff says: > > > > some of you might remember me > > Nope. Who are you? > > ;-) > > > did a few from > > that other big conflict of the 20th Century (no > > one-oh-thingies, however). My most recent effort > can be seen at: > > > > > http://www.rsbs.anu.edu.au/central-services/Photo/P-40_Photos/ > > > > But please be warned that it is decidedly OT. > > Aside from the blasphemy and backsliding, you need > to remember that On Topic > is OT and off topic is ot :-) > > > Why am I back? Putting it simply, I bought the new > Eduard > > Bebe and Gavia Bristol the other day > > You *swine* ! How come you can get them is deepest > darkest Cranberry and I > don't have either yet? > > >I hope I can bring another worthwhile voice to this > forum - > >RMS is a cultural desert these days... > > Nice to see you back in the fold mate. > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is > confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, > distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are > requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to > the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3472 **********************