WWI Digest 3458 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) by "Steven Perry" 2) Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) by "Ray Boorman" 3) Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 4) Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 5) OT Ship Shtuff (Dreadnought site and Beatties report of the battle of Jutland) by "Ray Boorman" 6) RE: OT Ship Shtuff (Dreadnought site and Beatties report of the battle by "Jay M. Thompson" 7) Birthday by "Lee M." 8) RE: Birthday by Shane Weier 9) Re: Birthday by "Ray Boorman" 10) Re: Birthday by REwing@aol.com 11) Re: Birthday by "Lee M." 12) Flugsport scans by "Jay M. Thompson" 13) RE: Birthday by Shane Weier 14) Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) by "Ray Boorman" 15) Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 16) Re: Birthday by Todd Hayes 17) Ebay sales and shipping prices. Relates to buying OT shtuff by Charles Hart 18) Re: Birthday by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 19) R: R: R: Browning-Colt 1914 feeding by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 20) RE: Birthday by "Gaston Graf" 21) Re: Flugsport scans by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 22) Re: Birthday by "Tom Sollers" 23) RE: Birthday by Crawford Neil 24) 强大的"海天一色"专业聊天服务器 2.0免费下载试用，只售1000元人民币？C++开发独立运行，易安装易使用价格还特别便宜！ by info@haitian.com.cn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:49:55 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) Message-ID: <005301c0f933$b039cc00$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > What kits have you missed that you really wish you > hadn't? I had money set aside for each of these until life had other ideas :-( Spin Bristol 1Mc Miecraft Caproni Aeroclub Fee Hawkeye Dr.1 sp who is inteested in discussing a trade for any of these Off List ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:56:22 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: , Subject: Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) Message-ID: <3B3010D6.000003.09915@ray.bconnected.net> Hey Todd, I have both the Hippo Model resins (Macchi and a Berg, I also have a Pegasus Macchi in the correct scale). But since Flashback re-released the Berg from the same master and with decals as well. It would seem to me that the Macchi might not be far behind. As to the DML DVII, it'll be re-released either by DML or Hasegawa so I'm sure there will be lots more chances. Models I am still trying to get and hopefully havent missed out on, are the 1/72 CMK Junkers D1 and J1 and the latest Morane by CMK. I did order them from AvUSK months ago. I'm hoping they will turn up eventually. No criticism of AvUSK by the way. CMK models just are problematical sometimes. Whilst were on the subject, the local hobby store has a RHVP Sopwith Swallow At $40 CDN I'm wondering whether its worthwhile or would converting the Revell Sopwith Camel be a more cost effective way to get a Swallow. -------Original Message------- From: Todd Hayes Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 07:32:17 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) What kits have you missed that you really wish you hadn't? Three particular ones that I could have/should have bought, but put off buying thinking, "maybe next month", are a 1:48 CMK Phonix D.III, 1:48 Resin Airmodel Phonix J.I, and a 1:48 Hippo Models Macchi M.5. Also more DML Fokker D.VII's. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:09:30 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) Message-ID: <002e01c0f93e$d2ff2900$7f01010a@jaring.my> Steve said: > I had money set aside for each of these until life had other ideas :-( > > Spin Bristol 1Mc > Miecraft Caproni snip > sp > who is inteested in discussing a trade for any of these Off List > As I already hinted a few weeks ago, the times to spend a lot of money on the Meikraft Ca 3 should soon be over, as there might be a new resin kit of that aircraft coming out in the not so distant future... Volker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:09:45 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) Message-ID: <003a01c0f93e$eab394a0$7f01010a@jaring.my> Ray said: > Models I am still trying to get and hopefully havent missed out on, are the > 1/72 CMK Junkers D1 and J1 and the latest Morane by CMK. I did order them > from AvUSK months ago. I'm hoping they will turn up eventually. No criticism > of AvUSK by the way. CMK models just are problematical sometimes. The CMK Junkers are available (*in stock*) at the Modellbaustudio Rhein Ruhr, as is the Morane AI (if that's the one you discuss). Even including the shipping they should also be *substantially* cheaper over there. > Whilst were on the subject, the local hobby store has a RHVP Sopwith Swallow > At $40 CDN I'm wondering whether its worthwhile or would converting the > Revell Sopwith Camel be a more cost effective way to get a Swallow. Same as above: I bought the Austin Osprey over there for DM 28,90 (US$ 13.-), and both the Swallow and Wight were there - same price, IIRC. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:52:53 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: "Wwi@Wwi-Models. Org" Subject: OT Ship Shtuff (Dreadnought site and Beatties report of the battle of Jutland) Message-ID: <3B301E15.000007.09915@ray.bconnected.net> I know this is a little off topic, but I found a site that has the beginnings of a 3D HMS Dreadnought. Knowing some on this list work with these type modelling apps, I thought it might be interesting. BTW what is Rhino NURBS??? http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/ Also attached is a report of the battle of Jutland by Adm Beattie. Great report, especially the information about the Destroyers portion of the battle. Well worth the read imho Watch out for Destroyer Captain called Tovey who would become famous in the second big event. http://www.lib.byu.edu/estu/wwi/1916/jutlandb.html This site is a wwi naval history site btw so well worth a look. I know this isn't strictly wwi aircraft but to keep it OT Beatties report specifically mentions his opinion of seaplane use during the battle. (Positive I might add) There that gets it back OT. Ray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:18:21 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: OT Ship Shtuff (Dreadnought site and Beatties report of the battle Message-ID: Neat, looks like some nice work. Rhino is a modeling/animation package, good modeler, fair rendering system. NURBS stands for non-uniform rational b-splines, it and patches are the two major spline-based parametric modeling methods. NURBS are particularly useful for organic shapes (like faces) which have constantly changing curves in all dimensions- there's a number of ways of controlling them, but in all cases you don't manipulate the surface directly, but rather with control points that lie outside the surface itself, and which have an effect on an area of the surface. Think of stretching a thin rubber surface over the top of a bowl, and placing ball bearings of different sizes and weights on the surface- depending on the size and weight of the ball bearing, the surface will curve in different ways. It's kind of like that, only much more complicated;-) Kind of surprising they would use NURBS to model ships, that wouldn't be the way I'd go. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Ray Boorman Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: OT Ship Shtuff (Dreadnought site and Beatties report of the battle of Jutland) I know this is a little off topic, but I found a site that has the beginnings of a 3D HMS Dreadnought. Knowing some on this list work with these type modelling apps, I thought it might be interesting. BTW what is Rhino NURBS??? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:48:18 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Birthday Message-ID: <3B302B12.316EEEE6@x25.net> I have finished the first year on my 4 th quarter of a century. 76 and counting toward 2025. OT book as one gift. Aces High, and, it is very nice indeed as well as one I had not bought earlier. Wife has promised a riding Mower. Comes in Bright red but not a Triplane version. National markings not included and its unarmed. Guess I will have to dream harder next time. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:56:44 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Birthday Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD12A@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Lee, > I have finished the first year on my 4 th quarter of a > century. 76 and counting toward 2025. My very best wishes old mate, for this one and many more. > Wife has promised a riding Mower. Comes in Bright red but not a > Triplane version. National markings not included and its unarmed. > Guess I will have to dream harder next time. Just don't try to loop it ;-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:15:42 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Birthday Message-ID: <3B30317E.000001.28571@ray.bconnected.net> Hey, Happy Birthday Lee I hope you had a really good day. Are you sure the riding mower isnt a ground attack Sopwith Salamander in disguise Ray -------Original Message------- From: Lee M. Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 09:49:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Birthday I have finished the first year on my 4 th quarter of a century. 76 and counting toward 2025. OT book as one gift. Aces High, and, it is very nice indeed as well as one I had not bought earlier. Wife has promised a riding Mower. Comes in Bright red but not a Triplane version. National markings not included and its unarmed. Guess I will have to dream harder next time. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:18:59 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Birthday Message-ID: <54.162d3075.28618c43@aol.com> >> Wife has promised a riding Mower. Comes in Bright red but not a >> Triplane version. National markings not included and its unarmed. >> Guess I will have to dream harder next time. >Just don't try to loop it ;-) I wouldn't try and barrel roll it, either!! Happy Birthday to another great Gemini and hope there are many more! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:25:19 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Birthday Message-ID: <3B3033BF.4416A521@x25.net> That may be a good idea for some darn reason the engine won't go round with the propeller and the wings only stick out about .25 meters on each side of the fuselage. Lee M. Shane Weier wrote: > Lee, > > > I have finished the first year on my 4 th quarter of a > > century. 76 and counting toward 2025. > > My very best wishes old mate, for this one and many more. > > > Wife has promised a riding Mower. Comes in Bright red but not a > > Triplane version. National markings not included and its unarmed. > > Guess I will have to dream harder next time. > > Just don't try to loop it ;-) > > Shane > > ********************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is > intended only for the use of the addressee(s). > If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or > copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to > forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the > MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > > e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au > phone: Australia 1800500646 > International ++61 7 38338042 > ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:28:12 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: WWI Mailing List Subject: Flugsport scans Message-ID: I received the July 1918 Flugsport that my wife collected for me on Ebay, and I've scanned a series of included detail drawings. There were 6 of the Ablatros C.V, two of the V-strut attachments of what appears to be the Nieuport 17/23, one of the cabane strut and center wing attachment of the Sopwith Triplane, and two of the cockpit structure of the Fokker Dr.I. I used Photoshop to correct the pretty severe yellowing, and did some fiddling of the brightness, contrast, and sharpness to bring them back to what the artist originally drew. They're quite nice and should be useful to the folks on the list. Allan has put them up at http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Various/Flugsport/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:32:05 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Birthday Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD12F@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Lee says: > That may be a good idea for some darn reason the engine won't go round > with the propeller and the wings only stick out about .25 > meters on each side of the fuselage. For some reason I know have a vision of Lee, period helmet on head, waxed handlebar moustache and flying coat, diving down a steeply sloped lawn in clouds of burning 2 stroke oil, half turned to the rear to shake his fist and shouting "CURSE YOU RED BARON" Shane (Diego - get sketching !) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:37:02 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) Message-ID: <3B30367E.000003.28571@ray.bconnected.net> Volker, I know this has probably been covered but does Modellbaustudio Rhein Ruhr have a web presence by any chance. I found an address for them but no email or web addresss. Tthey are in Essen correct?, as a teenager I stayed there for a month on a student exchange. Thats where I discovered Potato pancakes and how SourKraut should taste. From memory Krups have a Museum outside Essen and there is a Zeppelin monument in one of the local parks. Ray - I also discovered a very nice German girlfriend there too, but thats another story ;) Ruhr-------Original Message------- From: Volker H鋟sler Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 09:01:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) Ray said: > Models I am still trying to get and hopefully havent missed out on, are the > 1/72 CMK Junkers D1 and J1 and the latest Morane by CMK. I did order them > from AvUSK months ago. I'm hoping they will turn up eventually. No criticism > of AvUSK by the way. CMK models just are problematical sometimes. The CMK Junkers are available (*in stock*) at the Modellbaustudio Rhein Ruhr, as is the Morane AI (if that's the one you discuss). Even including the shipping they should also be *substantially* cheaper over there. > Whilst were on the subject, the local hobby store has a RHVP Sopwith Swallow > At $40 CDN I'm wondering whether its worthwhile or would converting the > Revell Sopwith Camel be a more cost effective way to get a Swallow. Same as above: I bought the Austin Osprey over there for DM 28,90 (US$ 13.-), and both the Swallow and Wight were there - same price, IIRC. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:10:46 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) Message-ID: <008701c0f94f$d42067c0$7f01010a@jaring.my> Ray, Matt would now mention something about the website... Actually Classic Plane/The Modellbaustudio Rhein-Ruhr has a basic webpage under http://www.classic-plane-mrr.de/index.html Not much on it, but it includes the mail address and some newletters under http://www.classic-plane-mrr.de/What_s_New_/what_s_new_.html BTW, the Wight Quadruplane is also there for the DM 28,90 I already mentioned, so the Swallow should cost the same. And yes, they are in Essen, which hosts two interesting Art Museums/Galleries (one of them being the Villa Huegel of Krupp fame). BTW, something they might also interest some: Detlef Schorsch also still has limited quantities of the original Classic Plane vacs - I finally got the one that I really missed the first time (so getting back to the thread), the Austin-Ball AFB 2 - again for a modest 9,80 DM (that's around US$ 4,50). Volker (who only values the taste of true Sauerkraut since moving to Asia) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Boorman" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Kits You've Missed Out On (and really wish you hadn't!) > Volker, > I know this has probably been covered but does Modellbaustudio Rhein > Ruhr have a web presence by any chance. I found an address for them but no > email or web addresss. > > Tthey are in Essen correct?, as a teenager I stayed there for a month on a > student exchange. Thats where I discovered Potato pancakes and how SourKraut > should taste. From memory Krups have a Museum outside Essen and there is a > Zeppelin monument in one of the local parks. > > Ray - I also discovered a very nice German girlfriend there too, but thats > another story ;) > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:55:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Birthday Message-ID: <20010620055512.8827.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Happy Birthday Lee. Ask your wife to special order a mower for you! Todd --- "Lee M." wrote: > I have finished the first year on my 4 th quarter > of a century. 76 and > counting toward 2025. > > OT book as one gift. Aces High, and, it is very > nice indeed as well as > one I had not bought earlier. > > Wife has promised a riding Mower. Comes in Bright > red but not a > Triplane version. National markings not included > and its unarmed. > Guess I will have to dream harder next time. > > Lee M. > New Braunfels, TX > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:07:50 -0600 From: Charles Hart To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Ebay sales and shipping prices. Relates to buying OT shtuff Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010620000750.008fc6e0@spot.colorado.edu> Greetings All, I'll de-lurk from the archives on this one. I've sold over 400 items, many OT, via eBay over the past 2 years or so. The problem with shipping is that the Postal Service substantially jacked up the price on Priority Mail and changed the Rules back in January. Yes, by the book 1 pound via priority mail is $3.50, the CATCH is that for the USPS one pound is 13 ounces. If the parcel is below this threshold you may send it via first class mail in the US. To send a parcel via first class the item cannot be in the familiar (and free) red, white and blue USPS boxes, it must be in "plain" packaging. If you are a fraction of an ounce over the 13.00 limit, then your choices are Priority or the slower Parcel Post. My experience has been that it is quite difficult to put a light weight model in a sturdy, mostly crush proof box and keep the whole packet under the 13.00 ounce limit. I've essentially given up on trying to ship all but very small kits via first class mail. Overseas (i.e. outside of the US) mailings are a different issue. For me, as the seller, these usually require two trips, in a car, to the post office so that I can stand in line (queue) to get the box weighed and report the results to the buyer. If this is from a consignment sale (most of mine are) then my minimal take on an overseas sale is consumed fixing the postage. I've sold items to a number of subscribers on this list (and perhaps a few lurkers like myself). I hope that those concerned have had a good eBay experience and received their item in good condition. Certainly there are a lot of folks selling on eBay charging unconscionable amounts of money to mail simple items. I try and avoid these sellers, so far reasoning has failed to work. I agree that it is useful for sellers to post in the auction description what the postage charges will be. This is a bit more work to what can already be a somewhat labor intensive task. I try and charge reasonable rates for shipping and get the item there in good condition. I've also been burned on postage more times than I want to remember. My current impression is that the only people making any money on eBay are those owning the company's stock. Charles Hart eBay Handle "hiatella" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:40:25 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: Birthday Message-ID: <001101c0f953$e3e34ca0$7f01010a@jaring.my> Lee, Happy Birthday also from over here in SEA - I'll have a glass on your health this evening. Volker > --- "Lee M." wrote: > > I have finished the first year on my 4 th quarter > > of a century. 76 and > > counting toward 2025. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:36:03 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: R: R: R: Browning-Colt 1914 feeding Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E906EFBF@SERVER1> Dear Lance, thanks very much for your answer, which is most revealing. I got the scan, and can describe what it depicts based on descriptions and drawings in the Woodman book. The Colt-Browning was belt fed, from the left, and so the rectangular feed in the picture's foreground is the ammunition going into the gun. It discharged on the right, and the usual practice was to wind the belt on a spool; I am sure that is what the smaller chute to starboard is for. I would expect there to be a spool and a small crank on the starboard cockpit wall for the pilot to take up the belt as he fired the gun. [Casirati Alberto] Could this be spring.operated, like it was for the Vickers armed Ni.17 ? Empty brass would be ejected into the slipstream on the starboard side. The gun was called the "potato digger" by the American Marines who used it during the Boxer Rebellion, as a lever swung out from under the muzzle with each round. For this reason there could be no obstruction below the gun that would impede the lever. Page 74 and 75 of the Woodman book illustrates the gun, and shows a French obseerver winding the belt. [Casirati Alberto] All the very berst, Alberto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:20:56 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Birthday Message-ID: Happy birthday, Lee! You want a "riding mower"? Isn't that a horse? I believed sheep are the better mowers, but sheep you can't ride unless your legs are short enough ;o). A real Texan rides anything that moves - Yyyppppiiiiiiieeeeeeeee.......... ;o) Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > I have finished the first year on my 4 th quarter of a century. 76 and > counting toward 2025. > > OT book as one gift. Aces High, and, it is very nice indeed as well as > one I had not bought earlier. > > Wife has promised a riding Mower. Comes in Bright red but not a > Triplane version. National markings not included and its unarmed. > Guess I will have to dream harder next time. > > Lee M. > New Braunfels, TX > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:39:49 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Flugsport scans Message-ID: <005d01c0f975$55e58950$2a38183f@cyrixp166> Hi Jay, I took a look at the Flugsport. Very nice. I have never seen this publication before. Can you tell me more about it? Does an index exist for it? Regards, John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay M. Thompson To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 1:31 AM Subject: Flugsport scans > I received the July 1918 Flugsport that my wife collected for me on Ebay, ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 06:58:03 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Birthday Message-ID: <200106201059.f5KAxBv01064@mail.bcpl.net> Lee: Happy Birthday! Aces High is a great gift. My copy is well worn. I credit it with fueling the fire of my interest in this subject. If you got one of the reprints, its even better, larger format and more photos. Enjoy! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:03:54 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Birthday Message-ID: Happy birthday Lee, as the gentleman of the list you are well worth a mower, and Aces High. Is Aces High that soft-covered book by Allan Clark(?) with black/white versions of the profile drawings? /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Sollers [mailto:tsollers@bcpl.net] > Sent: den 20 juni 2001 13:03 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Birthday > > > Lee: > > Happy Birthday! Aces High is a great gift. My copy is well > worn. I credit > it with fueling the fire of my interest in this subject. If > you got one of > the reprints, its even better, larger format and more photos. > > Enjoy! > > Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:51:31 From: info@haitian.com.cn To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: 强大的"海天一色"专业聊天服务器 2.0免费下载试用，只售1000元人民币？C++开发独立运行，易安装易使用价格还特别便宜！ Message-ID: <200106201151.f5KBpbr12500@hiteam.com.cn> 海天-聊天服务2.0版
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“海天一色2.0”配置要求:
运行在Windows 95/98/NT/2000平台上，CPU要求133MHz以上，内存要求16M以上，硬盘空间大于1M。
或者运行在RedHat 6.0平台上，CPU要求133MHz以上，内存要求16M以上，硬盘空间大于1M。

下载"海天一色"专业聊天服务器 2.0请访问
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