WWI Digest 3454 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: was just checking now DNA & Breguet M.5 by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 2) RE: Dispatch from the AEG Front by Todd Hayes 3) Re: was just checking now DNA & Breguet M.5 by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 4) Re: hi by phil bytheway 5) 英特公墓全面改版 by user@domin.com 6) RE: OT PE by "Gaston Graf" 7) Re: OT PE by "Allen H Besser" 8) Re: New updates by Allan Wright 9) Re: New updates by Matt Bittner 10) Re: New updates by Allan Wright 11) RE: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by Crawford Neil 12) Re: hi by "Lee M." 13) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by David Fleming 14) Rhinebeck Reconnaisance by "Brad & Merville" 15) Re: Anything to do in Florida? by David Fleming 16) Re: Bamboo by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 17) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by "Tom Sollers" 18) Re: Anything to do in Florida? - Lots by "Brian Nicklas" 19) Re: Bamboo by "Lee M." 20) Re: Bamboo by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 21) Aeroclub website by David Fleming 22) Speaking of website's by Matt Bittner 23) re An Interesting Find pt 2 by "Mr David Bacon" 24) Biplanes, Triplanes and Seaplanes by "Steven Perry" 25) Re: Biplanes, Triplanes and Seaplanes by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 26) Re: An Interesting Find by Andreikor@aol.com 27) Re: Axial props by Steve Cox ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:50:21 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: was just checking now DNA & Breguet M.5 Message-ID: <006f01c0f7b2$3933a860$7f01010a@jaring.my> Jon, concerning the Breguet Michelin BM 5: This is really somewhat irritating on the list I scanned and sent to you. There are a *few* Classic Plane resins only, done by one of the Czech "resineers" of CMK fame for Detlef Schorsch, but with masters done by either Detlef Schorsch or some other guys from Germany (the ot Messerschmitt/Heluan Ha 300 is a good example). OT Classic Plane resins include the Junkers J 1 and J 2. But the BM 5 belongs to a different category: It is done by a "nameless" Czech manufacturer (not related to CMK, I hasten to add), who is also responsible for a number of other kits (like the Fokker D V, the Albatros C X and C XII, the DFW B II, a Vickers FB 19 and many others. It is eactually quite possible this BM 5 is a copy of the early Skuld/Veterans kit (that is now no longer available), as some of the other kits seem to be based on earlier vacforms (the same way some Wings 72 , 12 squared or Meikraft kits were based on Czechmaster originals). That aside, I actually bought the BM 5 three weeks ago, and it is a nice kit with a huge wingspan and lots of details. Not as good as these new Luedemanns or Classic Plane resins, also can not compare to the Czechmaster stuff, but still quite good. And the price (the German Mark is just above 40 cents!) is quite attractive. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 21:39:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Dispatch from the AEG Front Message-ID: <20010618043917.49559.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Hi John, For awhile at first, SAMI was pretty regular about bashing CSM kits. Todd --- John Glaser wrote: > Cool. > > If ya'll haven't checked out the latest IPMS (USA) > Journal, see Commander > Perry's build article on the CSM Sopwith Swallow. > One of the best build > articles in the otherwise worthless (full of kero > burners, tanks & cars) rag > has to offer. Steve - I really learned a lot from > the article. > Particularly on joining resin to white metal, the > cowl clean up and your > paint mixing secrets. > > On the other hand, did anyone else notice CSM Eric > get bashed in the last > SAMI? I thought it was really unfair. The kit was > the Halberstadt Cl.IV - > a former Tom's Modelworks vac that Eric recast in > resin. Eric freely admits > this was one of the worst kits produced in resin or > vac and is certainly > sorry for ever putting out for release. > Unfortunately, reviews like that > cast a pall over all Eric's other wonderful > subjects. Kind of got me PO'ed. > > - JG > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org > [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Steven > Perry > Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 2:14 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Dispatch from the AEG Front > > > Whilst in the midst of preparing for an offensive > push on the AEG Nacelle > front, the Commander received a request to to attack > in a different > direction from the Minister of Cyber Propoganda. > Unlike certian inflexible > generals, the Commander executed a textbook wheel > and with great elan, > charged. The battle was sucessful and the acount of > the action is due to be > chronicled in an upcoming Internet Modeler. > > With deadline met and flanks secure, the Commander > has now turned his > attentions to the Nacelles. > > The engines have been secured to the nacelle > bottoms, This position is > supported by the radiator/cowl front and surrounded > by a network of tubular > framework. > > The nacelle frame was scratched from bent rod and > brass wire. As of this > dispatch both the port and starboard nacelle > salients are even. Exhausts and > a few minor details are the remaining areas of > resistance. > > The commander is forced to conduct fundraising > activities in order to > support the war and plans a final push to finish up > the Nacelle front when > he gets off work. > sp > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:48:28 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: was just checking now DNA & Breguet M.5 Message-ID: <63.179101f0.285ee21c@aol.com> In a message dated 6/18/2001 12:36:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hus@schott.com.my writes: << Jon, concerning the Breguet Michelin BM 5: This is really somewhat irritating on the list I scanned and sent to you. There are a *few* Classic Plane resins only, done by one of the Czech "resineers" of CMK fame for Detlef Schorsch, but with masters done by either Detlef Schorsch or some other guys from Germany (the ot Messerschmitt/Heluan Ha 300 is a good example). OT Classic Plane resins include the Junkers J 1 and J 2. But the BM 5 belongs to a different category: It is done by a "nameless" Czech manufacturer (not related to CMK, I hasten to add), who is also responsible for a number of other kits (like the Fokker D V, the Albatros C X and C XII, the DFW B II, a Vickers FB 19 and many others. It is eactually quite possible this BM 5 is a copy of the early Skuld/Veterans kit (that is now no longer available), >> Thanks for the clarification Volker, I was not sure how to read the flyer you sent me so I could only guess. I'm happy to hear that it is at least a buildable model of this aircraft anyway as the Veterans kits when on ebay run upwards to $40.00 USD. so this one is running about $13.00 USD a nice deal for me. I cannot wait too see the kit's I ordered but Detlef says that it will not be possible to ship until some time in July due to manufacturing speeds. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:32:46 -0700 (PDT) From: phil bytheway To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: hi Message-ID: <20010618053246.80233.qmail@web14701.mail.yahoo.com> don't understand any of this... pb --- ba_72@163.com wrote: > > 您好！ > 如果这封信打扰你请您删除！ > 如果你有兴趣请MAIL：bdy@public.east.net.cn > 或致电：010-82624660 > Windows2000 终端卡是针对用户过时的机器专 > 门设计的。利用先进的技术，Windows2000终端卡 > 可以以很小的投入（每台机器改造费用不到两百 > 元），将386、486(无需软驱和硬盘，只要两兆内 > 存）计算机加以改造，使之能够运行Windows2000 > 操作系统以及基于Windows操作系统的绝大多数 > 应用软件（OFFICE97、OFFICE2000、OUTLOOK5.5 > 、IE5.5、PHOTOSHOP5.0、WPS2000等），并且能够 > 实现完全的Internet功能。非常适合于对386、486 > 以及低档586计算机教室进行改造。 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sohusoft - Search Emailaddress and do mass mailing Marketing for you > http://www.flashsendmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Oh and we usually don't recommend a site because we *want* to sell something, but because we like the stuff other people sell who make their money with. with my kindest regards Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Another one that recommends a website but can't be bothered to give an > address. I'm sure he has no connection with the business. Anyone who > wanted to sell something would tell you how to get there. A satisfied > customer???? So satisfied he can't type a website. > > Al Besser ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:42:53 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: OT PE Message-ID: <002601c0f7e3$6fa07f00$4b58143f@compaq-computer> Thanks for the Google suggestion and an apology to Tom is in order. Yes, I was ticked off as I subscribe to more than one list and after about the 4th instance where I was referred to a website without an address (and after going thru 100 or so e-mails) I had had enough. Perhaps Google would save me a lot of headaches. My daughter had sent me a web browser when I first got my computer a couple of years back. It worked great, type in the web address and it would go directly to the site. Now for the last few months it insists on giving me endless lists of possible hits even with an exact (including https and wwws) address. So I've gone back to the Microsoft Internet Explorer that came on the computer even tho it gives the endless lists all the time. Thanks again Ray, and apologies to Tom again, Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: Ray Boorman To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:31 PM Subject: Re: OT PE >Try Google.com its more reliable than most and as I mentioned its the first >hit so unless you have no time its a good search engine to use and not get >swamped with false hits. > >Sorry to sound tiresome but you sounded pretty ticked off at Tom and its an >easy thing to forget to post the site, so a quick email to him rather than >the ticked email to the list would have been better, we all make mistakes >you know. > >Just my oppinion. > >Ray > >-------Original Message------- >From: Allen H Besser >Date: Sunday, June 17, 2001 05:09:05 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: OT PE >Not on my search engine. I don't have the time to bother going thru >hundreds of hits. >Al Besser > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:32:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New updates Message-ID: <200106181232.IAA08579@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > A boat load of updates. A Flea from Steve Cox, two from Russ Niles and > two from Candice Uhlir. Superb!! > > However, I'm having difficulty with the larger images of Steve's Flea. > If anyone can tell me what's going on, maybe Al can fix it for me > tomorrow (since I won't be able to get to my home computer until after > I get home from work tomorrow). Sorry, Steve. Nothing I can do from here Matt - the images are corrupt. Maybe you didn't use binary transfer in the FTP? Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 06:11:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New updates Message-ID: <20010618131138.84282.qmail@web11702.mail.yahoo.com> --- Allan Wright wrote: > Nothing I can do from here Matt - the images are corrupt. Maybe > you didn't > use binary transfer in the FTP? Very odd. I can view them at home. Maybe I'll open them up again and do a save as into new files. Notice the thumbnails work... Funny that with all the additions so far, this is the first that has failed in this way. Must be doing something right. ;-) Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:17:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New updates Message-ID: <200106181317.JAA08888@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Chock it up to a computer glitch - I do it all the time :-) > > --- Allan Wright wrote: > > > Nothing I can do from here Matt - the images are corrupt. Maybe > > you didn't > > use binary transfer in the FTP? > > Very odd. I can view them at home. Maybe I'll open them up > again and do a save as into new files. Notice the thumbnails > work... > > Funny that with all the additions so far, this is the first that > has failed in this way. Must be doing something right. ;-) > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. > http://buzz.yahoo.com/ > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:25:25 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: I used Strutz on my DH4, and IMHO they're just a pain in the arse. You were supposed to run them right through the wing and then snip off the excess, and patch up, or something like that. I never did that, it felt too dangerous. I just cut them off, filed them to shape and glued with epoxy, as if they were plastic or wood. The advantage is they are very strong, the disadvantage is that the material is too hard to file easily. Everyone who suggests bamboo is right! Personally I use model ship deck planking for two reasons: 1. I have some, don't have any bamboo. 2. They are the right colour, just need carving to shape and varnishing. FWIW /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:06:23 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org, phil_tekno@yahoo.com Subject: Re: hi Message-ID: <3B2E0ADE.1590B105@x25.net> Since it was obviously SPAM, you should not reply to it and put it on the list an additional time. There is a program on the list that is tohelp prevent SPAM messages and it can detect the stuff beiung returned and cut off yoy E-mail service to the wwi@wwi-models site. The message is from China and should be simply delted. I am not directly connected to any of the list Heirarchy but over a number of years I have advised thaopse that reply to SPAM as to the dangers involved. It is a great way to get yourself cut off. Do Not Do That. If you do not think it can happen please re-think what you have done. Others can tell you I am right and that includes Allen Wright, Dale Beamish and a number of others. The present program is not as determined and swift as the previous one but it will happen. I think you lucked out because you changed the Subject line. All you really did was add additional clutter to the site HD. Not needed. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX phil bytheway wrote: > don't understand any of this... > > pb --- ba_72@163.com wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:54:38 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <3B2E081D.3FD2AE76@dial.pipex.com> Crawford Neil wrote: > I used Strutz on my DH4, and IMHO they're just a > pain in the arse. You were supposed to run them right > through the wing and then snip off the excess, and patch > up, or something like that. I never did that, it felt > too dangerous. I feel the same way about the 'drill through, thread, cut off and patch' school of rigging - I don't have the confidence to repaint the areas where the 'holes' were. dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:07:44 -0400 From: "Brad & Merville" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Subject: Rhinebeck Reconnaisance Message-ID: <001901c0f800$0c4aefe0$ce885ad1@default> Well I landed the old Daewoo recon machine on the home drome late last night after a 3-three day reconnoitering of the lower Hudson Valley. The local weather was beautiful but unfortunately the surrounding weather kept most of the itinerant 'Golden Age' participants away. The wind was from the North on the second day so all the approaches were through the trees to the South making for great photos. I was able to witness the first public flight of the newly refurbished JN4H and hear the ticking purr of the legendary Hispano-Suiza. It appears factory fresh and bears the attractive grey and yellow markings of NAS Pensacola circa 1918. The SPAD VII flew on the end of the second day and it is TINY! This was my first encounter with one outdoors and en l'air. The pilot, Bill King, appeared to strap it on and launched it into the air with one bounce off the North side of the famous Old Rhinebeck ditch. A dogfight was staged with the SPAD, DR.I and Camel. I won't say who lost as I don't want to spoil it for next weeks mission. The Albatros DVa and the Fokker DVII are also flying this year as well as the AVRO 504, Caudron G.III and the Nieuport 11. Ken Cassens demonstrated the DVII's aerobatic capabilities in a solo performance. The 'hanging on the prop in a tight turn' manoeuvre was especially chilling, you can just picture a squirming SE being laced with hot lead from beneath. The Nieuport 11 collapsed it's tail skid after a not terribly hard landing. Damage was minor and it was thought that repairs would be complete by next weekend. Also spotted were a Renault FT17 and an ersatz German amoured car along with some heavily armed motorcycles. Sorry Bob, but the Dolphin is still a skeleton in the museum. The Fokker E.V (D.VIII) has also been retired for the season. This is the definitely the best line up of flying OT aircraft I've ever seen at Old Rhinebeck. I'm deeply disappointed at missing next weeks gathering. Try not to harass the local constabulary too much. Though I can't quite picture the Dutchess County Sheriff, pushing a wheel barrow full of disheveled list members, knocking on the UNH Dean's door asking for a Mr. Allan Wright....well... yes, I guess I can! I hope you all have an excellent dinner or, 'bone ape-tit' as the doughboys used to say. Brad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:02:59 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org, Sandy Adam Subject: Re: Anything to do in Florida? Message-ID: <3B2E0A13.61EBFD1E@dial.pipex.com> Sandy Adam wrote: > Hi guys > The Adam family is heading Orlando-wards in July. The kids have all the > usual attractions pegged, but can I ask for recommendations for any museums, > hobby shops and other such OT locations that I might "accidently" stumble > upon? > > Any model shows or club meetings in second half of month? > ot, but worth checking out is the Flying Tigers Warbird Museum & restoration facility at Kissimee (sp). Lots of old wrecks that they are putting together again and usually some nice warbirds. OT, when I was there in '92, the big shopping centre/leisure centre in downtown Orlando (John St Junction ? - next to the railway) had a couple of replica WW1 planes (SE5 & Fokker Dr1 IIRC ?) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:29:24 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bamboo Message-ID: Hi Folks, I also have started using the Bamboo skewers and chopsticks..Chopsticks do seem to split better into planks than the skewers, but I have started using an Xacto chisel blade(#17) and this seems to work fine...The nice thing about the skewers is that they are round and when split, one side is now half round and is fairly easy to carve and shape into an airfoil section...Has anyone tried one of those tools that make small dowels by pulling them thru the tool and shaving them to successively smaller diameters???? I was thinking of taking advantage of Micro Mark's sale and ordering one. This would be a good way to get the skewer to the right diameter and then just sand them to an airfoil shape.... Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:39:34 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <200106181440.f5IEeRj08191@mail.bcpl.net> This is what I love about this list. You ask a question and you get a wide variety of good, detailed responses. Now, my only problem is selecting which method to use! Thank you all!! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:44:54 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Anything to do in Florida? - Lots Message-ID: As to the Suggestions for Central Florida: Fantasy of Flight in Polk City is a must. This is an "attraction" not a museum, as the Weeks museum in Miami is supposedly still in place at Tamiami Airport. Fantasy of Flight has a WW One gallery that is pretty good. The facility is totally new. Art Deco in design, it makes a great 30's airport. The front of the first building has a gift shop and cafe. The peanut butter pie is to kill for. And if you ask nicely, and explain your devotion to WW One, you might get someone to take you over to look at the restoration bay and storage area. The have a tethered gas balloon for rides near the parking area. FoF hosts a lot of antique/classic car shows, btw. Rosie O'Grady's is the tourist area in Downtown Orlando at Church Street. One of the managers is/was Joe Kittinger, record balloonist/skydiver, AF pilot and Vietnam POW. The folks who run it also have/had a banner towing service and rides at Orlando Executive. Orlando Executive also has a 94th Aero Squadron restaurant, one of the aviation themed eateries by the Tallichet organization. There are faux biplanes and vehicles parked around, and the place is supposed to look like a French farmhouse. Colonial Photo and Hobby was the name of the big hobby shop when I was there, there are newer places, but the emphasis in those seems to be R/C rather than static plastic. Titusville/Cocoa has the Valiant Air Command Warbird Museum at Spacecenter Executive Airport, and across A1A is the Astronaut Hall of Fame. Go up the road East from there and there is Spaceport USA, the Kennedy Space Center visitors center. Then there is on the Air Force side the Air Force Space and Missile Museum. North of Cocoa is Daytona Beach, home of Embry Riddle Aeronautical University. They have a full size Wright 1903 Flyer sculpture in front of the library, and you can get tours if you want to see wind tunnels, simulators and current trainers in use. And on the other side of Daytona Beach Airport is NASCAR world, I think new stuff has been added if you are into race cars and esp stock cars. The best hobby shop in Daytona was Dunn Brothers Hardware on Beach Street, but there is a new Hobby Town that opened near the Speedway. Ace Hobbies on Ridgewood Avenue is also good, but mainly R/C. Between Daytona and Orlando is Deland and Sanford. Deland is home to Stetson University and the Deland Airport is one of the biggest skydiving places in the world. Sanford Airport is funky. Always bizarre stuff going on there it seems. Central Florida is full of airports, most built as training fields for WW Two. Enjoy yourself !! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:02:17 -0500 From: "Lee M." To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bamboo Message-ID: <3B2E17F9.92F7E936@x25.net> Jewelers Draw Plate, on special sale, # 50330 www.micromark.com $14.95 plus shipping. Usually $36.95 plus $1.50 shipping Lee M. John_Impenna@hyperion.com wrote: > Hi Folks, > I also have started using the Bamboo skewers and chopsticks..Chopsticks do > seem to split better into planks than the skewers, but I have started using > an Xacto chisel blade(#17) and this seems to work fine...The nice thing > about the skewers is that they are round and when split, one side is now > half round and is fairly easy to carve and shape into an airfoil > section...Has anyone tried one of those tools that make small dowels by > pulling them thru the tool and shaving them to successively smaller > diameters???? I was thinking of taking advantage of Micro Mark's sale and > ordering one. This would be a good way to get the skewer to the right > diameter and then just sand them to an airfoil shape.... > > Regards, > John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:06:57 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bamboo Message-ID: Thanks Lee! That's the one!! John "Lee M." Sent by: cc: wwi@wwi-model Subject: Re: Bamboo s.org 06/18/01 11:02 AM Please respond to wwi Jewelers Draw Plate, on special sale, # 50330 www.micromark.com $14.95 plus shipping. Usually $36.95 plus $1.50 shipping Lee M. John_Impenna@hyperion.com wrote: > Hi Folks, > I also have started using the Bamboo skewers and chopsticks..Chopsticks do > seem to split better into planks than the skewers, but I have started using > an Xacto chisel blade(#17) and this seems to work fine...The nice thing > about the skewers is that they are round and when split, one side is now > half round and is fairly easy to carve and shape into an airfoil > section...Has anyone tried one of those tools that make small dowels by > pulling them thru the tool and shaving them to successively smaller > diameters???? I was thinking of taking advantage of Micro Mark's sale and > ordering one. This would be a good way to get the skewer to the right > diameter and then just sand them to an airfoil shape.... > > Regards, > John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:03:52 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Aeroclub website Message-ID: <3B2E1858.EA2F0DA5@dial.pipex.com> I had this bookmarked, but now I only get what appears to be a host's page - anyone got an updated URL, or has John been Cybersquatted ? Maybe just updating his site ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:14:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Speaking of website's Message-ID: <20010618151404.70325.qmail@web11708.mail.yahoo.com> Speaking of website's, I finally added the Windsock/Albatros Pubs URL to the links page on the site. Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:39:49 +1000 From: "Mr David Bacon" To: Subject: re An Interesting Find pt 2 Message-ID: <200106181547.BAA20593@mail.ozonline.com.au> Hi All It seems I'm still in lurk mode afterall... I saw your posts re my HB-D1 plane and I dont think it is what you described. Examining it, it has no plastic in it, and seems to be made of what I'd say was non-commercial metal material - maybe a thin iron type metal or something. Skill wise it does not have a commercial 'finish' in its construction. Also its not near 1/72 scale - its closer to 1/48 or bigger - if its to a scale at all. I'd like to post photos of it but I dont really have access to a scanner - is there some other way I can get photos of it up on the website? I guess its hard to describe what its like without you seeing it ilustrated somehow - a bit like saying, "well my triplane has sort of three wing things, a little round thing at the front with a bit of wood stuck out it and is sort of reddish in colour' maybe. All the best Neil PS Roland DVI - up to the rib tapes! .. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:53:32 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Biplanes, Triplanes and Seaplanes Message-ID: <002f01c0f80e$d42b1e00$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> A small (6.75 x 5") book of 300 odd pages.Written by Michael Sharpe and Published by Barnes & Noble Books. Each plane has a color profile, specifications table and a brief write up. Many WWI types, but not at all comprehensive. Lots of 'tweeners. Not much modeling help except for the dimensions given, but worth the 11 bucks I paid for it. sp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:02:03 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Biplanes, Triplanes and Seaplanes Message-ID: In a message dated 6/18/2001 11:52:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sperry03@tampabay.rr.com writes: << A small (6.75 x 5") book of 300 odd pages.Written by Michael Sharpe and Published by Barnes & Noble Books. Each plane has a color profile, specifications table and a brief write up. Many WWI types, but not at all comprehensive. Lots of 'tweeners. Not much modeling help except for the dimensions given, but worth the 11 bucks I paid for it. sp. >> Thanks Steven Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:24:15 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: An Interesting Find Message-ID: The metal aircraft in question just may be one from Edison, made in Italy by Edison Giocattoli, S.P.A. around 1972. A pic would definitely identify it. If it is one of these die-cast planes with plastic parts, don't overpay for it! A mint-condition version complete with plastic case goes for between US $25 and $50. Cheers, Andrei Andrei Koribanics II 8 Falcon Place Wayne, NJ 07470 USA Voice/Fax: 973-696-9378 email: andreikor@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:30:47 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Axial props Message-ID: Bil, the Flea pics that Matt is putting up have a stripey prop. I did that by cutting masking tape using two blades taped togther-someone on the list suggested this trick not so long ago. The tape was applied over a cream paint, and the dark stripes painted in several layers of red and brown shading washes mixed in 'Klear', then rubbing down after removing the tape, and coating again in 'Klear' The end result could be better, there isn't the rounded end at the blade tips Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line 媼 I'd get some models finished ================ > From: WStew10180@aol.com > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:33:16 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Axial props > > Fellow modelers, > > I need suggestions on how best to paint a 1/72 laminated Axial prop. Many > thanks. > > Bill > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3454 **********************