WWI Digest 3452 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Pulpit SPADs by Volker Haeusler 2) Re: Report on a great afternoon by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 3) Re: Report on a great afternoon by "Steven Perry" 4) Re: Birthday greetings by KarrArt@aol.com 5) RE: Base color for the Fok. F1's by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 6) Re: MoS AI in 1/48? by "diaphus" 7) Re: Bamboo Strips by "diaphus" 8) Re: Birthday greetings by REwing@aol.com 9) just checking by peter leonard 10) Re: just checking by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 11) Re: Base color for the Fok. F1's by Scottfking@aol.com 12) An interesting find... by "Mr David Bacon" 13) Re: just checking/again by "TOM PLESHA" 14) Re: An interesting find... by "TOM PLESHA" 15) Janes WWI... by "TOM PLESHA" 16) Belated Birthday Wishes & Old Rhinebeck Get together by pugs99@att.net 17) Re: Base color for the Fok. F1's by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 18) Re: just checking by "Allen H Besser" 19) Browning-Colt 1914 feeding by "Alberto Casirati" 20) Re: Janes WWI... by "Allen H Besser" 21) Re: just checking by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 22) Re: just checking by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 23) Re: Janes WWI... by "Courtney Allen" 24) OT PE by "TOM PLESHA" 25) Re: just checking - Warning no OT content by "Ray Boorman" 26) Re: Browning-Colt 1914 feeding by "Lee J. Mensinger" 27) Re: Base color for the Fok. F1's by "Bob Pearson" 28) Re: An interesting find... by "Bob Pearson" 29) Gone for a couple: by Robert Horton 30) Dispatch from the AEG Front by "Steven Perry" 31) Re: OT PE by "Allen H Besser" 32) Re: OT PE by Al Superczynski ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 07:50:01 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Pulpit SPADs Message-ID: Further on the pulpit SPADs, I got the AModel Avro 504 in Germany, and there is already the cover of he forthcoming AModel SPAD A 2 printed on the back of the carton. It comes (at least) with those "Ma Jeanne" markings. Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Matt Bittner Sent: 17 June 2001 04:10 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Pulpit SPADs Well, I just received an Omega SPAD G.1. I didn't want to get the A.2 or A.4 due to getting the Roseplane one, but I figured "why not" with the G.1. It's a very nice kit! Comparing the Roseplane (R) and Omega (O) side by side shows strengths and weaknesses for both. >snip< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:23:33 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Report on a great afternoon Message-ID: <007401c0f6cc$20d19020$ee38183f@cyrixp166> Shoot! I will have to visit you "unaccompanied"! Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Perry To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: Report on a great afternoon > Met DB today at the aviation bookstore at the airport. Quite a few OT > titles. We each indulged, (Dave got Janes WWI Aircraft & German Warplanes, I > got Under the Guns of the Red Barron and Biplanes, Triplanes & Floatplanes). > > After that we went to House of Hobbies, a truly old fashoned hobby shop. He > had a whole bunch of Eastern Express, Eduard, some Omegas and assorted other > OT kits, (I got a Glencoe N.28 & Dave got an Eduard Baby & a Sop Tripe). > > Finally it was chicken strips and gossip about the List at the Wing House, > they compete with Hooters and their girls "try harder" :-). All in all an > excellent outting. DB sends his regards to the List. > sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:39:11 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Report on a great afternoon Message-ID: <005601c0f6ce$4ef2ba40$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > Shoot! I will have to visit you "unaccompanied"! > > Cyg. :-) Bring it on John. The shops have been there for 30 years I know of and The Wing House for at least 10. Ain't nobody goin anwhere. Bring RAIN sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:09:05 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Birthday greetings Message-ID: In a message dated 6/15/01 7:32:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, alga.graphics@gte.net writes: << > > Happy birthday to Rick, DB and Mistress Lorna! Aren't the > nicest people born > > in June? :) (coughing mildly:) > > Perhaps, but the best are born in October > Actually, it's a bracket running from October 30th through to November 19th. That pretty much encompasses all the best people (wife, me, and child (who also shares a B-day with Legs, interestingly). Chris >> Stretch that to November23 and we're cookin'! And a belated happy birthday to all! RK.........suffering in an alternate universe due to going to a wedding with an open bar reception.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:41:09 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Base color for the Fok. F1's Message-ID: >Stefen, > >as far as I know, the FIs was completely doped turqoise before the olive >paint got applied over it. And speaking about this, the idea comes to my >mind that the famous cowl probably was underpainted turqoise as well which >explains its green (olive) color after it got overpainted in chromate yellow >finish: yellow + blue or blueish = green. Ain't that so? OK Folks, try this on for a few seconds. The F.1 machines had a green cast to the streaked color, While the Dr.1 machines had a brown cast to the streaked color. If you load a brush full of dark green and start to put it over the turquoise, you would get a dark green covering. Now take the same color and brush it over CDL, and you will get the dark Brown/Green color. You can look at the two models of mine and see the tonal changes. The F.1 has an overall coating of the under side blue (Turquoise) and the Dk Green I used for the streaking came out with a very green tint. The Dr.1 had a base coat of CDL, followed by the Turquoise on the lower surfaces, and the same Dk. Green was streaked over the CDL. The resulting finish color had a very Brownish tint to the Green. There are times when I think God is doing this just to play with our mind and what we think we see. It is amazing what kind of color shifts you can get by changing the base color instead of changing top color. This has to be a way for her to get even with the world for making 1/48 scale and larger kits. If we would have just stayed with 1/72 scale, she would have been very happy and left us alone to build our models. John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:56:30 -0400 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <001701c0f6d9$1bf2b180$23c45c18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Bittner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 11:52 AM Subject: Re: MoS AI in 1/48? > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:23:26 -0400 (EDT), diaphus wrote: > > > Should have the finished pix to Matt after the Nats. > > And exactly how did you finish it? Accurately, correct? > Of course, it's Shaffer's wished for twin gun 30 :-) Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:01:27 -0400 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: Bamboo Strips Message-ID: <004801c0f6d9$cd5352e0$23c45c18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TOM PLESHA" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Bamboo Strips > SNIP > > > > > > Where do you get your bamboo material? I don't have much experience in > > > working with wood. Any pointers? > > I have had poor luck splitting skewers, they seem to be twisted for > strength(?), at least the ones I've bought, thus no straight splits. > HTH > Tom > To Tom S., You can buy a pack of bamboo skewers at most grocery stores (look in their barbecue supplies section) that will last you the rest of your life for about two bucks. To Tom P., I had bad luck with splitting them too. Instead I use a new #11 XActo blade as a scraper. It worked fine with just a bit of sanding necessary. I will say, though, that regardless of what type of bamboo, the stuff is a pain to drill! Very tough... Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:11:51 EDT From: REwing@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Birthday greetings Message-ID: >>I wholeheartedly agree! D. Mothership dropped me in this planet on June 25th.<< Diego, I think the key word in your sentence is "dropped"! It definitely would explain a lot. BTW, get your package yet? -Rick- "As long as a hundred of us remain alive, we will never be subject to tyrannical dominion because it is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but for freedom alone which no worthy man loses except with his life." The Declaration of Arbroath 1320 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:53:56 +0100 From: peter leonard To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: just checking Message-ID: <3B2C8C44.BD68F2D8@cwcom.net> Sending this from my grownup e-mail address to check that I am still subscribed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 06:53:44 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: just checking Message-ID: <32.16801dfd.285de638@aol.com> Apparently I am still subscribed. Presumably everyone else has either been struck down by "the dreaded lurgie" or has a life beyond the list ;) cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 08:54:54 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Base color for the Fok. F1's Message-ID: <8.15eb76a9.285e029e@aol.com> Hello all, In the Datafile Special, the FI's are described as turquoise overall with the olive streaking applied, and production DrI's as generally CDL, then olive streaking applied, then the turquoise applied to the undersides and returned slightly over the lower fuselage longerons, which can be seen on a lot of photos. But the possibility that some DrI's were overall turquoise then olive streaked is stated and at least one of the illustrations in the DF shows this. IIRC this is explained by the fact that the returned lower surface color is not visible in some photos of production triplanes. Could be, or could be that the turquise dope was applied before the olive in some cases or that whoever was doing the doping didn't always do it the same way, who knows? Scott (Skippy) King ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:08:24 +1000 From: "Mr David Bacon" To: Subject: An interesting find... Message-ID: <200106171314.XAA30536@mail.ozonline.com.au> Hi all? I think I'm into real time now and not lurk but I'm not sure... I just want to let the list know of some thing I bought today which is of interest... I was wandering about an antique market in Melbourne this arvo when I came across a very old and perhaps crudely made metal aeroplane. It was what looked to be a Hansa-Brandenburg D-1. I have reserved it and plan to buy it later this week but I think it holds some interest to us for the following reasons: 1. The plane does not look well made enough for it to be a commercially made toy (has anyone heard of these planes being made as toys?). If this is not a commercial toy then it is likely to be made as a one off - either as a representation or as a toy for someone's child. if it has been made this way who is likely to have made it? My guess is a member of an A-H aero unit of the time that had H-B D1s - perhaps made by either a pilot or more likely a mechanic - (perhaps for a pilot?). if this is so this makes it a unique piece of what the antique world calls "trench art" and has value as an interesting piece of memorabilia. 2. (this is where it gets interesting folks) As I was driving away from the place, it struck me that it was painted in the right shade of colours for a H-B D1(as per Munson "Fighters 1914-1919"). it has the right crosses and a serial even (these look handpainted). Therefore if (1) is correct, then is it possible that this plane is painted in original paint (or whatever) that may have been used by a unit for touch repairs etc? I really want to know what people think of this. I'll be buying it in a couple of days - its a cheap price as the top wing has come of and the struts are damaged - interesting it has straight struts not star shaped - makes it look a bit like a Phoenix also. All the best Neil Eddy (out of Lurk mode for a bit) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:47:47 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: just checking/again Message-ID: <000f01c0f734$18e9a7e0$93424c0c@tom> Hi Peter- Yes, you're still here and so are others, it just appears quiet. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: Re: just checking > Apparently I am still subscribed. Presumably everyone else has either been > struck down by "the dreaded lurgie" or has a life beyond the list ;) > > cheers > > Peter L > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:52:08 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: An interesting find... Message-ID: <001b01c0f734$b4166320$93424c0c@tom> Hi Neil- Sounds interesting, any chance of photos after you pick it up. Later Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr David Bacon" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 9:20 AM Subject: An interesting find... > > > Hi all? > > I think I'm into real time now and not lurk but I'm not sure... > > I just want to let the list know of some thing I bought today which is of > interest... I was wandering about an antique market in Melbourne this arvo > when I came across a very old and perhaps crudely made metal aeroplane. It > was what looked to be a Hansa-Brandenburg D-1. I have reserved it and plan > to buy it later this week but I think it holds some interest to us for the > following reasons: > > 1. The plane does not look well made enough for it to be a commercially > made toy (has anyone heard of these planes being made as toys?). If this is > not a commercial toy then it is likely to be made as a one off - either as > a representation or as a toy for someone's child. if it has been made this > way who is likely to have made it? My guess is a member of an A-H aero unit > of the time that had H-B D1s - perhaps made by either a pilot or more > likely a mechanic - (perhaps for a pilot?). if this is so this makes it a > unique piece of what the antique world calls "trench art" and has value as > an interesting piece of memorabilia. > > 2. (this is where it gets interesting folks) As I was driving away from the > place, it struck me that it was painted in the right shade of colours for a > H-B D1(as per Munson "Fighters 1914-1919"). it has the right crosses and a > serial even (these look handpainted). Therefore if (1) is correct, then is > it possible that this plane is painted in original paint (or whatever) that > may have been used by a unit for touch repairs etc? > > I really want to know what people think of this. I'll be buying it in a > couple of days - its a cheap price as the top wing has come of and the > struts are damaged - interesting it has straight struts not star shaped - > makes it look a bit like a Phoenix also. > > All the best > > Neil Eddy (out of Lurk mode for a bit) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:57:57 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Janes WWI... Message-ID: <002101c0f735$83d0cb00$93424c0c@tom> Hi Everyone- FWIW- Barnes and Noble has the Janes Fighting Aircraft of WWI now on sale for $15.95 US. I think it has a neat engine section. Later Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:19:21 +0000 From: pugs99@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Belated Birthday Wishes & Old Rhinebeck Get together Message-ID: <20010617141918.UIBP9547.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hi Folks, Belated birthday wishes to Lorna, DB & Rich...... Also, we are one week away from our ge totgether at Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome. I'll put out a message this week wheren and when we want to meet. My wife and I are planning to get there between 10:00 and 11:00am so we have a couple of hours to go thru the museum and gift shop etc...before the show at 2:00pm. Do we want to pick a time to meet?? Let me know...Also, is anyone interested in getting a bite to eat after the show?? Let's get some ideas... Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:26:03 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Base color for the Fok. F1's Message-ID: <000701c0f739$71025a30$d839183f@cyrixp166> A Theory: The F.1s were turquois doped with earth gray streaking. This is consistant with Timm's recollections in the Imre article. It may also be why Hammerly first mistook Voss's F.1 as a Nieuport. A small dirty gray airplane from a distance might well be mistaken for a Nieuport. Stirring the Pot, Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Base color for the Fok. F1's > Hello all, > > In the Datafile Special, the FI's are described as turquoise overall with the > olive streaking applied, and production DrI's as generally CDL, then olive > streaking applied, then the turquoise applied to the undersides and returned > slightly over the lower fuselage longerons, which can be seen on a lot of > photos. But the possibility that some DrI's were overall turquoise then > olive streaked is stated and at least one of the illustrations in the DF > shows this. IIRC this is explained by the fact that the returned lower > surface color is not visible in some photos of production triplanes. > > Could be, or could be that the turquise dope was applied before the olive in > some cases or that whoever was doing the doping didn't always do it the same > way, who knows? > > Scott (Skippy) King > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:07:25 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: just checking Message-ID: <00cd01c0f73f$393133a0$fc5a143f@compaq-computer> Yes, you must be subscribed, I received the message. Good luck in dealing with these people. I got dropped a couple of weeks ago. No one could tell me how or why but when I followed their instructions to resubscribe all I would get was error messages. Gave up and tried again yesterday. Once again "error message you're already subscribed" I replied with a long expletive saying " if I'm subscribed why no messages for two weeks". Followed the directions in the faq to review the list and did find my name. Now things are normal....go figure. Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: peter leonard To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, June 17, 2001 6:49 AM Subject: just checking >Sending this from my grownup e-mail address to check that I am still >subscribed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:08:58 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: Browning-Colt 1914 feeding Message-ID: <005901c0f740$d49cfe40$d9e422d4@s> I am searching for details of the above named aircraft gun feeding system. It equipped Italian Ni. 11s in 1916. The best picture I have shows two conducts going from the inside of the fuselage to the gun. Both conducts are square in section, one of them is larger than the other. I suppose there was one ammo box inside the aircraft, maybe also for spent cartridge cases, but this is just guessing. Any suggestions ? Thanks very much in advance to all those who will take the trouble and time to answer. Alberto Casirati Honorary Keeper Aviation Section Bergamo Historical Museum www.museostoricobg.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:26:46 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: Janes WWI... Message-ID: <012b01c0f741$ed36cb60$fc5a143f@compaq-computer> Picked one a few weeks ago (before I got unsubscribed to the list) for a similar price. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THIS SHUT OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND GO BUY ONE. IT'S SUNDAY, THEY'RE OPEN! As I said a got mine a couple of weeks ago. Had to try a couple of Barnes &N.s before I found one in their clearance section. THAT'S IN THEIR CLEARANCE SECTION if you want one do not delay, they're getting rid of them and if you want one it's never be so cheap and easy. Just my 2 cents, Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: TOM PLESHA To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, June 17, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: Janes WWI... >Hi Everyone- >FWIW- >Barnes and Noble has the Janes Fighting Aircraft of WWI now on sale for >$15.95 US. >I think it has a neat engine section. >Later >Tom > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:22:45 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: just checking Message-ID: <3B2CAF25.1643077C@tac.com.au> LEONARDPeterL@aol.com wrote: > > Apparently I am still subscribed. Presumably everyone else has either been > struck down by "the dreaded lurgie" or has a life beyond the list ;) > > cheers > > Peter L There's life beyond modelling (and by extension the list)? How odd ... modelling is firmly entrenched in our lives and frankly I couldn't be happier about it. Although when someone invents a cupboard that is like the Tardis - bigger on the inside than out - I'll be ecstatic. Mistress Lorna wondering if the urge to model and the urge to be a packrat are cross-linked in our DNA - would explain much ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:36:43 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: just checking Message-ID: Happens from time to time Al, but it's a while since it happened to me. This time the only message I had for twelve hours or so was my own test from my off list address. Unsbbing and resubbing did the trick. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:40:19 -0700 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: Janes WWI... Message-ID: <001601c0f74c$32d6ffa0$e04c510c@worldnet.att.net> The Costco by me (SF Bay Area) has them for $12.98. Very Good price. Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: "TOM PLESHA" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 7:00 AM Subject: Janes WWI... > Hi Everyone- > FWIW- > Barnes and Noble has the Janes Fighting Aircraft of WWI now on sale for > $15.95 US. > I think it has a neat engine section. > Later > Tom > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:19:11 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: OT PE Message-ID: <000501c0f751$a13b3ec0$d9424c0c@tom> Hi Everyone- I thought I would pass on that the Great Models Webstore is now listing: Part PE for control horns 1/48- $8.25 @ Eduard WWI seats 1/48 - $11.60 @ I have no interest other then a satified customer. FWIW Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:15:45 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: , Subject: Re: just checking - Warning no OT content Message-ID: <3B2CE5C1.000001.90015@ray.bconnected.net> Of course the list could be quiet because in some parts of the world its fathers day. We're all off looking at godawfull ties, summer shirts that could make dazzle camoueflage looked somber, or in my case summer shorts that look like they go most of the way down to my ankles ;( Darn I have to wear these today too sheesh..... Its tough being a dad. The lil tyke did give me a home made card though, telling me what he will do for me this year. Which amounted to "try to be good", "try to keep his room tidy", "stay out of my model stash", "help me build models" Ray -------Original Message------- From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins Date: Sunday, June 17, 2001 09:04:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: just checking LEONARDPeterL@aol.com wrote: > > Apparently I am still subscribed. Presumably everyone else has either been > struck down by "the dreaded lurgie" or has a life beyond the list ;) > > cheers > > Peter L There's life beyond modelling (and by extension the list)? How odd ... modelling is firmly entrenched in our lives and frankly I couldn't be happier about it. Although when someone invents a cupboard that is like the Tardis - bigger on the inside than out - I'll be ecstatic. Mistress Lorna wondering if the urge to model and the urge to be a packrat are cross-linked in our DNA - would explain much ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:05:53 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Browning-Colt 1914 feeding Message-ID: <3B2CF181.8338A04A@x25.net> I do believe you have it right an In chute and an out chute. Better than having them rattling around un-attended. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX Alberto Casirati wrote: > I am searching for details of the above named aircraft gun feeding system. > It equipped Italian Ni. 11s in 1916. The best picture I have shows two > conducts going from the inside of the fuselage to the gun. Both conducts are > square in section, one of them is larger than the other. I suppose there was > one ammo box inside the aircraft, maybe also for spent cartridge cases, but > this is just guessing. > > Any suggestions ? > > Thanks very much in advance to all those who will take the trouble and time > to answer. > > Alberto Casirati > > Honorary Keeper > Aviation Section > Bergamo Historical Museum > > www.museostoricobg.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:46:37 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Base color for the Fok. F1's Message-ID: <200106171659.f5HGxOq88595@mail.rapidnet.net> Dr.I 544/17 (iirc) of Jasta 14 was captured and the report on it gave the base coat as turquoise. There is an article on this aircraft in an early C&C(GB). Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:53:07 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: An interesting find... Message-ID: <200106171659.f5HGxQq88598@mail.rapidnet.net> Neil writes .. > I just want to let the list know of some thing I bought today which is of > interest... I was wandering about an antique market in Melbourne this arvo > when I came across a very old and perhaps crudely made metal aeroplane. It > was what looked to be a Hansa-Brandenburg D-1. I have reserved it and plan > to buy it later this week but I think it holds some interest to us for the > following reasons: I'm pretty sure this is actually a commercial model, an Italian (?) company released a number of metal models some time ago, and I seem to recall teh the KD was one of them. Brad, do you have one of these within your moated keep? But if I'm wrong, you have an interesting find .. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 13:21:14 -0500 From: Robert Horton To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Gone for a couple: Message-ID: <3B2CF51A.BB18ED2C@netexpress.net> Howdy listees: Have to unsub for a couple of weeks..I hear some old artillery pieces beckoning down in the Mecca or Artillery- Fort Sill. Have a good Father's Day and keep save the bamboo sticks after the B-B-Q...Bob Horton ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:10:58 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Dispatch from the AEG Front Message-ID: <001101c0f761$3e0865c0$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Whilst in the midst of preparing for an offensive push on the AEG Nacelle front, the Commander received a request to to attack in a different direction from the Minister of Cyber Propoganda. Unlike certian inflexible generals, the Commander executed a textbook wheel and with great elan, charged. The battle was sucessful and the acount of the action is due to be chronicled in an upcoming Internet Modeler. With deadline met and flanks secure, the Commander has now turned his attentions to the Nacelles. The engines have been secured to the nacelle bottoms, This position is supported by the radiator/cowl front and surrounded by a network of tubular framework. The nacelle frame was scratched from bent rod and brass wire. As of this dispatch both the port and starboard nacelle salients are even. Exhausts and a few minor details are the remaining areas of resistance. The commander is forced to conduct fundraising activities in order to support the war and plans a final push to finish up the Nacelle front when he gets off work. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:20:38 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: OT PE Message-ID: <002401c0f77b$be8e2a80$6969393f@compaq-computer> Another one that recommends a website but can't be bothered to give an address. I'm sure he has no connection with the business. Anyone who wanted to sell something would tell you how to get there. A satisfied customer???? So satisfied he can't type a website. Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: TOM PLESHA To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Sunday, June 17, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: OT PE >Hi Everyone- >I thought I would pass on that the Great Models Webstore is now listing: > >Part PE for control horns 1/48- $8.25 @ >Eduard WWI seats 1/48 - $11.60 @ > >I have no interest other then a satified customer. >FWIW >Tom > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 17:22:20 -0500 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: OT PE Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:26:40 -0400 (EDT), Allen wrote: >Anyone who wanted to sell something would tell you how to get there. Strangely enough the URL for Great Models is http://www.greatmodels.com . HTH, Al http://apollo.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3452 **********************