WWI Digest 3451 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Birthday greetings by "Diego Fernetti" 2) Re: Jager Miniatures by "Diego Fernetti" 3) Americal/Gryphon Decals by "diaphus" 4) Re: All this talk about Lloyds... by Scottfking@aol.com 5) Re: All this talk about Lloyds... by "Lee J. Mensinger" 6) Re: Anything to do in Florida? by Scottfking@aol.com 7) Re: All this talk about Lloyds... by Scottfking@aol.com 8) Re: All this talk about Lloyds... by "Lee J. Mensinger" 9) Re: All this talk about Lloyds... by "Matt Bittner" 10) Re: MoS AI in 1/48? by "Matt Bittner" 11) RE: MoS AI in 1/72 by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: MoS AI in 1/72 by "Matt Bittner" 13) Orlando Visit: by Robert Horton 14) Base color for the Fok. F1's by "Stefen Karver" 15) Meikraft's Lloyd by Andreikor@aol.com 16) Jager WWI figures by Andreikor@aol.com 17) Re: Jager WWI figures by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 18) Re: MoS AI in 1/72 by Steve Cox 19) Report on a great afternoon by "Steven Perry" 20) Re: All this talk about Lloyds... by "Steven Perry" 21) RE: Base color for the Fok. F1's by "Gaston Graf" 22) STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by "Tom Sollers" 23) Pulpit SPADs by "Matt Bittner" 24) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by "Matt Bittner" 25) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by Todd Hayes 26) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by "Ray Boorman" 27) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by Todd Hayes 28) Wierd Experimental British A/C by Todd Hayes 29) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by "Steven Perry" 30) Re: Bamboo Strips by "TOM PLESHA" 31) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by "Tom Sollers" 32) A first for Eduard by "Tom Sollers" 33) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by "Tom Sollers" 34) Tarascon (was Re: A first for Eduard) by "Matt Bittner" 35) Re: Bamboo Strips by "Tom Sollers" 36) Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? by "Steven Perry" 37) RE: Wierd Experimental British A/C by Volker Haeusler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:36:58 -0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Birthday greetings Message-ID: Andrei wrote: >Aren't the nicest people born >in June? :) I wholeheartedly agree! D. Mothership dropped me in this planet on June 25th. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:39:11 -0000 From: "Diego Fernetti" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jager Miniatures Message-ID: I asked to Jager yesterday from work... Now I'm chez Wanda so I'll find out after the weekend. D. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:39:45 -0400 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Americal/Gryphon Decals Message-ID: <001a01c0f669$d0229460$2fc45c18@tampabay.rr.com> All, Does anyone know if Americal will be vending at the Nats. I'd love to get some of his stuff, but am just too lazy to send in an order :-). Also, have no idea what some of his stuff looks like and would like a chance to examine firsthand. TIA. Jack Gartner diaphu@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:13:50 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: All this talk about Lloyds... Message-ID: In a message dated 6/15/01 2:38:33 PM EST, ipmsfortcrook@yahoo.com writes: << .leads me to ask the question: Anybody build their Meikraft Lloyd Triplane, yet? I know a few of us have them... >> Nope. Perhaps someone can shed some light on the following regarding this a/c (40.15 triplane) in the AH Army Aircraft Book: "The wings were fully cantilevered and indications are that they were of mixed veneer and fabric construction." I know that some of Lloyd a/c had veneer covered wings with fabric covered ailerons (Lloyd CV) but these were not cantilevered, and were fully rigged. Other Lloyd a/c had conventional fabric covered wings (Lloyd CI, CII). Would it be a reasonable assumption that the 40.15 triplane wings might have been veneer over wooden structure, with the veneer covered with fabric to stress the structure? Is this the method Fokker used on the EV/DVIII? Thanks Scott (Skippy) King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:30:08 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org, lemen@x25.net Subject: Re: All this talk about Lloyds... Message-ID: <3B2B6D6F.AB5381F1@x25.net> Can not answer the first parts but the E-V and the D-VIII were as you described all wooden covered wings with fabric overlayed. Cables were accessed thru small doors on the underside of the wings with appropriate pulley structures inside directing them to the aileron horns or the controls Wooden surfaces, even after fabric application, did have a tendency to show ripples on them. eg: Not perfectly flat. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX Scottfking@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/15/01 2:38:33 PM EST, ipmsfortcrook@yahoo.com writes: > > << .leads me to ask the question: Anybody build their Meikraft > Lloyd Triplane, yet? I know a few of us have them... >> > > Nope. Perhaps someone can shed some light on the following regarding this > a/c (40.15 triplane) in the AH Army Aircraft Book: > > "The wings were fully cantilevered and indications are that they were of > mixed veneer and fabric construction." > > I know that some of Lloyd a/c had veneer covered wings with fabric covered > ailerons (Lloyd CV) but these were not cantilevered, and were fully rigged. > Other Lloyd a/c had conventional fabric covered wings (Lloyd CI, CII). > Would it be a reasonable assumption that the 40.15 triplane wings might have > been veneer over wooden structure, with the veneer covered with fabric to > stress the structure? Is this the method Fokker used on the EV/DVIII? > > Thanks > Scott (Skippy) King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:41:28 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Anything to do in Florida? Message-ID: In a message dated 6/16/01 5:56:00 AM EST, cbbs@almac.co.uk writes: << Hi guys The Adam family is heading Orlando-wards in July. The kids have all the usual attractions pegged, but can I ask for recommendations for any museums, hobby shops and other such OT locations that I might "accidently" stumble upon? >> Sandy, If you are passing near Pensacola, don't miss the Naval Aviation Museum. In a word it is fabulous, with the added bonus of some OT a/c there. Also some nice built up models on display. Mobile has the USS Alabama battleship, a US submarine (Gato?), a small aircraft museum, and some Civil War (and older) forts in Mobile Bay. The submarine was closed 2 years ago for repairs, presumably it is open again. Near Eglin AFB is a USAF Aircraft Armaments Museum. Northeast of Pensacola is Whiting Field NAS helicopter training field, where the local free flight and RC clubs fly, if flying models is one of your interests. They held the Society of Antique Modelers Championships there last October. Scott (Skippy) King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:59:13 EDT From: Scottfking@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: All this talk about Lloyds... Message-ID: <111.1114755.285cce41@aol.com> In a message dated 6/16/01 9:27:52 AM EST, lemen@x25.net writes: << Can not answer the first parts but the E-V and the D-VIII were as you described all wooden covered wings with fabric overlayed. Cables were accessed thru small doors on the underside of the wings with appropriate pulley structures inside directing them to the aileron horns or the controls >> Lee, Thank you, I presume a fabric over veneer wing could be a lot stronger than either veneer or ply over wooden structure, or a fabric covered wooden structure. Scott (Skippy) King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:17:17 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org, lemen@x25.net Subject: Re: All this talk about Lloyds... Message-ID: <3B2B787D.27065D48@x25.net> Yes, it is a good bit stronger that way since the fabric is put in place and then dope finished it becomes an integral part of the wing making the entire thing a unit instead of a variety of parts that can come loose and flex individually. The original E-V had a poor wing spar support structure which allowed the wing to come loose and then off.. Lost a lot of them that way. It was later done over, and, re-enforced. It finally worked well.. Never had a really good explaination as to why they changed the designation form E to D but it was directed by the Hq of those days. So they did it. Lee M. > Lee, > > Thank you, I presume a fabric over veneer wing could be a lot stronger than > either veneer or ply over wooden structure, or a fabric covered wooden > structure. > > Scott (Skippy) King ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:48:21 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: All this talk about Lloyds... Message-ID: <200106161546.IAA23866@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:46:29 -0400 (EDT), Karen Rychlewski wrote: > ..huh? Meikraft Lloyd Triplane? How did I miss this one? Anyone have > two? Yea, right. We paid $60 to not only get the Lloyd, but also become a member of their club (the only way you could get a Lloyd). Then we waited. And waited. And six or so years later, *some of us* were lucky to get the Lloyd. I do know someone who ordered two, but only received one. God rest his soul, but Meikrantz did not know how to run a business. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:49:58 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <200106161547.IAA28968@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:23:26 -0400 (EDT), diaphus wrote: > Should have the finished pix to Matt after the Nats. And exactly how did you finish it? Accurately, correct? :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:52:21 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: MoS AI in 1/72 Message-ID: <200106161550.IAA06518@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:34:33 -0400 (EDT), Chris Banyai-Riepl wrote: > Czech Master Resin has one, and it's easily the best in this scale. Check > the Internet Modeler archives for Matt's build article on it (it even made > the cover!). As for a source, Aviation Usk, Hannant's and NKR all carry > Czech Master Resin kits. I've got one on my workbench right now (along with > 50-odd other kits) and once I get back in the mood it should be a pretty > fast build. Only one wing, after all..... It would be even faster if not for all those struts! Yeesh... BTW, ask if you really want to know the difference between the MoS AI, Type 27, 29 and 30, just LMK. :-) Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:53:06 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: MoS AI in 1/72 Message-ID: <200106161550.IAA08871@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:47:22 -0400 (EDT), Fernando Cecilio wrote: > I think there used to be a vac-form(definitely) by Formaplane (50% sure)... > Anybody else knows something about it.... Sorry to bear the bad news, but it's not very accurate. The best is definitely the CM... Check out my French pages for more information. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:04:02 -0500 From: Robert Horton To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Orlando Visit: Message-ID: <3B2B8372.558EEDAE@netexpress.net> To the list and Sandy particularly: Re: visit to Orlando area...I echo most of what has been said but to add, if you are in the Pensacola area be sure to visit the Naval Air Museum. It is excellent. But if you go on the base, check out the old civil war fortifications and also check at the guard gate...as of several years ago if you were there at the right time, they would allow you on board the training Aircraft carrier. This may have changed when they changed out the Carrier that was there and moved it. The Weeks museum is, or was, the old museum outside Miami that was destroyed a few years ago. At that time it was immaculate-you could literally eat off of the floor. Before the hurricane blew it down they were rebuilding a Sopwith "Strutter." I don't know if that was saved or not...have a good time on the trip and take a tank truck full of sunscreen...Bob Horton. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:05:40 -0400 From: "Stefen Karver" To: Subject: Base color for the Fok. F1's Message-ID: <001f01c0f67e$32889d20$b26dd6d8@stephen> G'day, ladies & gents-- I promise not to mention the unmentionable cowl that graced ne of these birds, but I trust a question--albeit perhaps contentious--about the base color of these preproduction macines will not be too offensive. Some have it that fabric areas overall were underside turquoise. Abbott is, IRC, adamant that turqoise was underside only, as on production machines. What is the sense of the List? TIA and regards, Stefen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:11:51 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Meikraft's Lloyd Message-ID: <110.113f8bf.285cdf47@aol.com> Matt wrote: <..leads me to ask the question: Anybody build their Meikraft Lloyd Triplane, yet? I know a few of us have them...> Heck no... it would totally worthless then! It's a shame John M. bought the farm... he created some cool kits for us OT nuts; may not have been an entrepreneur extraordinaire, but his heart was in the right place. Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:18:29 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Jager WWI figures Message-ID: <2b.16f2ea2e.285ce0d5@aol.com> I tired to access Jager's site, but their server appears to be down. Although the site itself doesn't list the scale, a search on Netscape reveals that they figs are 1/35. Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 12:35:23 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Jager WWI figures Message-ID: <50.173ce99b.285ce4cb@aol.com> when submitting the site to the wwi webring they said 1/32 hth Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:47:52 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: MoS AI in 1/72 Message-ID: There's a Formaplane Vac. Mine came with metal wheels and prop. Vac is not top quality but is OK. Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: Phil Bytheway > > Is there a MoS AI in 1/72? It's not on my "list" but would be nice to have > this one as it's one of my favorites. > > phil bytheway > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:21:45 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Report on a great afternoon Message-ID: <001601c0f691$33185f60$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Met DB today at the aviation bookstore at the airport. Quite a few OT titles. We each indulged, (Dave got Janes WWI Aircraft & German Warplanes, I got Under the Guns of the Red Barron and Biplanes, Triplanes & Floatplanes). After that we went to House of Hobbies, a truly old fashoned hobby shop. He had a whole bunch of Eastern Express, Eduard, some Omegas and assorted other OT kits, (I got a Glencoe N.28 & Dave got an Eduard Baby & a Sop Tripe). Finally it was chicken strips and gossip about the List at the Wing House, they compete with Hooters and their girls "try harder" :-). All in all an excellent outting. DB sends his regards to the List. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:36:10 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: All this talk about Lloyds... Message-ID: <002c01c0f693$371c4980$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Lee writes > The original E-V had a poor wing spar support structure which allowed the wing >to come loose and then off.. Lost a lot of them that way. It was later done over, > and, re-enforced. It finally worked well.. The Polish got about 18 or so from German Depots in territory they took over after the war. Most had the E.V wing, so they added a bracing wire from about where the aileron cables are to about midway down the front LG legs. The cable ran across the front of the LG and back up to the opposite wing. sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:10:10 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Base color for the Fok. F1's Message-ID: Stefen, as far as I know, the FIs was completely doped turqoise before the olive paint got applied over it. And speaking about this, the idea comes to my mind that the famous cowl probably was underpainted turqoise as well which explains its green (olive) color after it got overpainted in chromate yellow finish: yellow + blue or blueish = green. Ain't that so? happy color mixing :o) Gasterix - who'll now go and fiddle around on an "ot" Waterloo Curassier... > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Stefen > Karver > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 6:13 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Base color for the Fok. F1's > > > G'day, ladies & gents-- > I promise not to mention the unmentionable cowl that graced ne of these > birds, but I trust a question--albeit perhaps contentious--about the base > color of these preproduction macines will not be too offensive. Some have > it that fabric areas overall were underside turquoise. Abbott is, IRC, > adamant that turqoise was underside only, as on production machines. What > is the sense of the List? > TIA and regards, > Stefen > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:01:06 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <200106162102.f5GL21j28015@mail.bcpl.net> >There is one major problem - the wing struts that are included are of white >metal and are hopelessly thin and bend too easily. They are essentially >useless. I have scratchbuilt all my struts out of bamboo and wire pins. >Alignment and support for the heavy resin wing has been a bear. I have >popped the wing off four times now, the last time deliberately to readjust >alignment. Jack: Thanks for the building insight and heads-up. Where do you get your bamboo material? I don't have much experience in working with wood. Any pointers? Not that it would be appropriate hear, but I was just wondering if STRUTZ material was still available? I seem to remember hearing that they may have gone out of business. Anyone ever work with this stuff or know if it is still around? TIA Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:06:05 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Pulpit SPADs Message-ID: <200106162103.OAA24021@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Well, I just received an Omega SPAD G.1. I didn't want to get the A.2 or A.4 due to getting the Roseplane one, but I figured "why not" with the G.1. It's a very nice kit! Comparing the Roseplane (R) and Omega (O) side by side shows strengths and weaknesses for both. First off, the resin in the R is much nicer. "Cleaner", thinner, and overall a better "impression". The O fuselage is a single piece whereas the R is split "normally". The O has detail on the cockpit sides while the R is blank. There is a size difference as well - the R wings are smaller while the R fuselage is bigger. I talked with Barry about the size of his A.2 as compared to the Mini-Datafile, and the plans in the M-D are wrong, so he based his not only on the Harleyford drawings (which are more accurate) but also on *measurement*. Very important. With the G.1's wing being bigger could be due to the type. However, I'm pretty sure the fuselage's were the same. The O comes with photoetch which is very nice. The decals are also nicer. And I'm sorry to say, Rosemont, but O's engine is world's better. Separate crank case and separate cylinders with intake pipes. In fact, I plan on modeling the A.2 with the pulpit down, so I'll swap the engines. So, when it comes down to it, I like the Roseplane kit better than the Omega. However, the Omega still has its merits and will build into a wonderful G.1. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:09:48 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <200106162107.OAA06861@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT), Tom Sollers wrote: > Not that it would be appropriate hear, but I was just wondering if STRUTZ > material was still available? I seem to remember hearing that they may have > gone out of business. Anyone ever work with this stuff or know if it is > still around? I believe you can still get it from Roll Models. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:11:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <20010616211156.88920.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> I think Rosemont is advertising some new injected strut material by Pend O'Reille MK. Todd --- Matt Bittner wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT), Tom > Sollers wrote: > > > Not that it would be appropriate hear, but I was > just wondering if STRUTZ > > material was still available? I seem to remember > hearing that they may have > > gone out of business. Anyone ever work with this > stuff or know if it is > > still around? > > I believe you can still get it from Roll Models. > > > Matt Bittner > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:13:13 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <3B2BCBE9.000003.64525@ray.bconnected.net> I thought Aeroclub had taken over manufacturing Strutz. I'm pretty sure its in there online catalogue Ray -------Original Message------- From: Matt Bittner Date: Saturday, June 16, 2001 02:10:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT), Tom Sollers wrote: > Not that it would be appropriate hear, but I was just wondering if STRUTZ > material was still available? I seem to remember hearing that they may have > gone out of business. Anyone ever work with this stuff or know if it is > still around? I believe you can still get it from Roll Models. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:36:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <20010616213659.62618.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> I saw it listed there too. --- Ray Boorman wrote: > I thought Aeroclub had taken over manufacturing > Strutz. I'm pretty sure its > in there online catalogue > Ray > > -------Original Message------- > From: Matt Bittner > Date: Saturday, June 16, 2001 02:10:13 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT), Tom > Sollers wrote: > > Not that it would be appropriate hear, but I was > just wondering if STRUTZ > > material was still available? I seem to remember > hearing that they may > have > > gone out of business. Anyone ever work with this > stuff or know if it is > > still around? > I believe you can still get it from Roll Models. > Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:41:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Wierd Experimental British A/C Message-ID: <20010616214159.55364.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Did anyone notice Lubos' mention of an upcoming SAGE type 2 by Spin Models? I finally saw a picture of it. That is one strange looking a/c! Does anyone know of any decent references on this a/c? I know it's unusual, so I'm doubtful there is much available info. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:23:50 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <001f01c0f6bb$66e86f40$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > Where do you get your bamboo material? I don't have much experience in > working with wood. Any pointers? I get bamboo skewers used for BBQing shiskabobs. Available in several diameters and lengths in the housewares section of most US grocery stores. It splits into planks easily and these can be sanded and trimmed to the desired shape. hth sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:37:41 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Bamboo Strips Message-ID: <000501c0f6bd$56dc3da0$0e734c0c@tom> SNIP > > Where do you get your bamboo material? I don't have much experience in > > working with wood. Any pointers? In addition to SP's reply of skewers, I have found that some of the general houseware stores, Bed-Bath-Beyond, etc. sell bamboo place mats that are, typically, half round bamboo rods held together/woven with string. Cut the strings and you have a very large number of bamboo strips that need to be sanded, rather then split, for planks/strips. I have had poor luck splitting skewers, they seem to be twisted for strength(?), at least the ones I've bought, thus no straight splits. HTH Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:37:43 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <200106162337.f5GNbfj18690@mail.bcpl.net> >I get bamboo skewers used for BBQing shiskabobs. Available in several >diameters and lengths in the housewares section of most US grocery stores. >It splits into planks easily and these can be sanded and trimmed to the >desired shape. Thanks Steve! Sounds easy enough. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:37:53 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: A first for Eduard Message-ID: <200106162337.f5GNbpj18711@mail.bcpl.net> I just noticed that the description of the Eduard Nieuport 11 says: includes marking for two aircraft - Capt De Vreynes , Paul Tarascon - Plus Express mask for wing outer edge stripe, plus standing French Pilot Figure. A figure, now that's a first for Eduard! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:37:59 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <200106162337.f5GNbuj18719@mail.bcpl.net> >I saw it listed there too. >> I thought Aeroclub had taken over manufacturing >> Strutz. I'm pretty sure its >> in there online catalogue >> I believe you can still get it from Roll Models. Thanks All! I'll give it a try. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:56:47 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Tarascon (was Re: A first for Eduard) Message-ID: <200106162354.QAA29273@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 19:41:28 -0400 (EDT), Tom Sollers wrote: > I just noticed that the description of the Eduard Nieuport 11 says: includes > marking for two aircraft - Capt De Vreynes , Paul Tarascon - Plus Express > mask for wing outer edge stripe, plus standing French Pilot Figure. A > figure, now that's a first for Eduard! Crap!!! For some reason that really irks me. Eduard coming out with markings for Tarascon's bird. I wanted that one all to myself! :-) There's a bad point to all this new Nieuport stuff coming. I'm going to lose a lot of cool schemes as more things get published... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:13:38 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Bamboo Strips Message-ID: <200106170013.f5H0Daj23519@mail.bcpl.net> >In addition to SP's reply of skewers, I have found that some of the general >houseware stores, Bed-Bath-Beyond, etc. sell bamboo place mats that are, >typically, half round bamboo rods held together/woven with string. Cut the >strings and you have a very large number of bamboo strips that need to be >sanded, rather then split, for planks/strips. >I have had poor luck splitting skewers, they seem to be twisted for >strength(?), at least the ones I've bought, thus no straight splits. >HTH >Tom Thanks, Tom. I'll try that too and see which is easier. Sounds like the place mat would give you several years worth of struts. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 20:22:05 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: STRUTZ was MoS AI in 1/48? Message-ID: <004401c0f6c3$89be9c80$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> The Eico brand are pretty straight. > >I get bamboo skewers used for BBQing shiskabobs. Available in several > >diameters and lengths in the housewares section of most US grocery stores. > >It splits into planks easily and these can be sanded and trimmed to the > >desired shape. > > > Thanks Steve! Sounds easy enough. > > Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 07:45:30 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Wierd Experimental British A/C Message-ID: Todd, There is a 3 page description of the Sage 2 in JM Bruce´s "Warplanes of WW I - Fighters vol 2"(Robey Peters Scouts - Sopwith Camel), p. 94 to 96. Shorter version of it (only one photo, no drawing, basically the same text) in JM Bruce "British Aeroplanes 1914 - 1918", p. 462. Articles also appeared in both C&C (US) and C&C (GB) - the last one also with a photo of the uncovered aircraft. Could not find the issue at this moment. One thing all these articles don´t cleariy, IIRC: The sage had a entry door on the right side of the fuselage. Any ideas how this looked like? Volker -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Todd Hayes Sent: 17 June 2001 04:46 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Wierd Experimental British A/C Did anyone notice Lubos' mention of an upcoming SAGE type 2 by Spin Models? I finally saw a picture of it. That is one strange looking a/c! Does anyone know of any decent references on this a/c? I know it's unusual, so I'm doubtful there is much available info. Todd ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3451 **********************