WWI Digest 3447 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Mid week lull by Todd Hayes 2) Re: Fokker D.VII Big News by Todd Hayes 3) RE: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques by "Gaston Graf" 4) RE: Mid week lull by "Graham Hunter" 5) Re: Gavia Bristol and Eduard Nie.11 by "Tom Sollers" 6) Re: Battle Axe by "TOM PLESHA" 7) Jager Miniatures by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 8) Re: Battle Axe by Todd Hayes 9) Re: Romanian Markings? by Witold Kozakiewicz 10) One for the lawyers by "Tom Sollers" 11) Gaston's Techniques Archives Suggestions by Andreikor@aol.com 12) USMC DH-4 and DH-9 info sought by andrew l renshaw 13) Re: Battle Axe by "Tom Sollers" 14) Re: Fokker D.VII Big News by "Tom Solinski" 15) Back Again by "Lance Krieg" 16) Re: Back Again by Morg17ms@aol.com 17) Re: Gaston's Techniques Archives Suggestions by Todd Hayes 18) RE: Back Again by Volker Haeusler 19) Off topic - Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques by "Drew Ronayne" 20) Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques by "Steven Perry" 21) Yet another one by "Matt Bittner" 22) Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques by "Bob Pearson" 23) Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques by "Steven Perry" 24) Question for the PC-10ophiles by "Steven Perry" 25) Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles by "Bob Pearson" 26) RE: Question for the PC-10ophiles by Shane Weier 27) Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles by MAnde72343@aol.com 28) Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles by "Steven Perry" 29) Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles by "Ray Boorman" 30) Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles by Todd Hayes 31) Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles by "Ray Boorman" 32) RE: Gaston's Techniques Archives Suggestions by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:55:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Mid week lull Message-ID: <20010614185533.23779.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Graham, I wondered about this myself. I'm receiving your post. Todd --- Graham Hunter wrote: > Is it the mid week lull for the list or have I been > dropped by listproc. > > Graham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker D.VII Big News Message-ID: <20010614190002.24320.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Tom, Battle Axe is affiliated with JMGT (Socrate). Todd --- Tom Sollers wrote: > >Has anyone noticed yet that Squadron lists a 1:32 > >injection molded Fokker D.VII bt Battle Axe from > >France under it's advanced order section? > > > >Todd > > > WOW! Now, that IS big news! Anyone familiar with the > quality of Battle Axe > kits? > > Check it out at: > http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=bx3201 > > Thanks, Todd! > > Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:01:18 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques Message-ID: The price is the problem. You only get what you pay for. FP is quite cheap but not bad for the price. Others are better but more expensive. I've read an article about the Adobe editor which is supposed to be the very best, but at the same time the most expensive. Unfortunately that's to expensive for a hobby. I prefer to stick with FP and invest the price difference in AFGAS100LL. Instructor: "There's the airfield! Prepare for entering the circuit." Gasterix: "Airfield??? Where that???" Instructor: "Down there! See the white house and the green field near it?" Gasterix: "I see a bunch of white houses and nothing but green fields around them!" Instructor: "Yuk - that's the village of Neortrange." Gaterix: "So what field at what house shall I land at???" Instructor: "Take the one where the aircraft is parket nearby." Gasterix: "Aircraft? Where?" Instructor: "Down there at the field!" Gasterix: "What field please???" Instructor: "The green field at the white house" Gasterix: "Sorry, can't find it! To man green fields around here" Instructor: "That's because it's now behind us - make a 180° turn and you'll see it" Gasterix: "@+~*#...---..." .....and so it was, a white house, a green field, and a Pa28 parked at the field. The other white house at the field was the church....Huh... I wonder how a bird can find his nest if I can't find a field :o(. Gasterix - hey, but my instructor is still alive ;o) ...still he is... > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Jay M. > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:37 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques > > > Shout if we're too ot afield Allan. > Having used Frontpage and Dreamweaver (and Ultradev for that matter) > extensively, I'd rather have my teeth drilled without novacaine than use > Frontpage again. The basic problem is that the WYSIWIG interface > of FP shows > one thing in the normal development mode, another in the preview mode, and > two other things in live Netscape and IE- which leads to many hour of > fiddling to try and get things to work. > Dreamweaver on the other hand, especially Dreamweaver 4, is > REALLY what you > see is what you get (WYSIWIG). You can develop professional web sites > without ever having to touch a line of code, and what you see in the > development environment is what you get in both IE and Netscape. > But, the package that includes Fireworks (their photo/graphics > application, > which is in almost all respects the equal of Photoshop, and in many ways > better for web development) is $350 or so US, so unless you have lots of > disposable income or web development is going to be a major activity for > you, it probably isn't worth it. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:31:15 -0500 From: "Graham Hunter" To: Subject: RE: Mid week lull Message-ID: <003501c0f508$9437c400$fa0101c0@grahamh> all fixed now. was temporarily dropped I guess since about 8:30 am CST. just got all the posts since 8:30 .... Graham ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:14:28 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gavia Bristol and Eduard Nie.11 Message-ID: <200106142018.f5EKISb15919@mail.bcpl.net> >When I was there last weekend, they weren't in yet. Maybe he got them in >since then? >Mike Muth I called Rosemont, Nie. 11 is not in stock. Not sure when it will be there, or the price. So, I'm not sure why it is on their site. Maybe advance orders? Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:29:45 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Battle Axe Message-ID: <004701c0f510$c140b8a0$f0424c0c@tom> Hi - I have the JMGT Pfalz kit (unbuilt as of yet), but I think it is quite good. FWIW Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Fokker D.VII Big News > Hi Tom, > > Battle Axe is affiliated with JMGT (Socrate). > > Todd snip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:34:46 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Jager Miniatures Message-ID: <8.15d23747.285a79e6@aol.com> Anyone familiar with Jager Miniatures ? (http://www.jager.co.uk/) They announce an unnamed "forthcoming aircraft kit" in the Manly scale ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:42:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Battle Axe Message-ID: <20010614204225.7747.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> H Tom, I have the Pfalz too. I think it's probably one of the very best I have. Their Spad VII and Hanriots are superb. Actually, until the CSM Gotha came out I considered JMGT to be the best 1:48 manufacturer around, bar none. Expensive, but truly excellent. Todd --- TOM PLESHA wrote: > Hi - > I have the JMGT Pfalz kit (unbuilt as of yet), but I > think it is quite good. > FWIW > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Todd Hayes" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:03 PM > Subject: Re: Fokker D.VII Big News > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > Battle Axe is affiliated with JMGT (Socrate). > > > > Todd > snip > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:57:21 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Romanian Markings? Message-ID: <3B291721.2E730470@bg.am.lodz.pl> Volker Haeusler napisał(a): > Well, If I could read Polish I could tell you for sure, as the book > "Sojusznicy Luftwaffe czesc 1" (which deals mainly with Bulgarian, Romanian > and Slovak aircraft flown during the sequel) has also some info on WW I > aircraft markings. As the text *is* in Polish and I *can not* read it But I can ;-)) I have found information that from the beginning of Romanian Air Forces national marking was blue/yellow/red cockade and the same coloured stripes on rudder(blue on front). No sign of two colour cockades. -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:29:23 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: One for the lawyers Message-ID: <200106142132.f5ELW5b04874@mail.bcpl.net> Here's a question for the lawyers on the list. I'm working on 1/48 scale likenesses of many of the notable aces of WWI. And when finished I intended to market them as such, specifically identifying them as MVR, Nungesser, etc. Is there any legal pitfall or potential problems I should be aware of? Need I track down and clear things with the estates? I've heard some stories that give me pause. Most recently I understand some artists are having problems marketing things depicting the Wright brothers. I haven't confirmed that story yet, but I'm looking into it. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks! tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:34:28 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Gaston's Techniques Archives Suggestions Message-ID: <47.c949e01.285a87e4@aol.com> You go, Gaston! All great ideas... just one more suggestion: You should offer a $50.00 prize (in OT kits, of course) for the "best technique tip of the week" (tee-hee:) Cheers, Andrei :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:35:37 -0400 From: andrew l renshaw To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: USMC DH-4 and DH-9 info sought Message-ID: <20010614.173539.-350795.3.terminalvelocity@juno.com> hi all, A fellow modeler on Hyperscale, Shane Weier, sugested that i send a post to this email list. I am not a regular subscriber, so please email me direct with any responce. thanks! Im looking for infomation on the DH-4 and DH-9 used by the USMC during WWI and after the war. I would like to build ether (and maybe both) in 1/48 scale. Also any info on markings, colors, and distigishing chariteristcs would be great. Or if anyone can direct me to some good books or websites with this info it would be great. thank you very much in advance. andy renshaw terminalvelocity@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:37:33 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Battle Axe Message-ID: <200106142137.f5ELbXb06134@mail.bcpl.net> >I have the Pfalz too. I think it's probably one of >the very best I have. Their Spad VII and Hanriots are >superb. Actually, until the CSM Gotha came out I >considered JMGT to be the best 1:48 manufacturer >around, bar none. Expensive, but truly excellent. > >Todd > > >> I have the JMGT Pfalz kit (unbuilt as of yet), but I >> think it is quite good. >> FWIW My heart soars! In that scale it would be a big and most impressive model. Time will tell. Thanks guys! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:37:45 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Fokker D.VII Big News Message-ID: <002401c0f51a$3ff8d200$a6a20d41@Solinski.okcnc1.ok.home.com> NO but I am very familiar with Squadron's policy of disappointing you with stuff that never arrives or there are 72 backorders for the 24 kits the got in. Don't hold your breath Tom S > >Has anyone noticed yet that Squadron lists a 1:32 > >injection molded Fokker D.VII bt Battle Axe from > >France under it's advanced order section? > WOW! Now, that IS big news! Anyone familiar with the quality of Battle Axe > kits? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:39:37 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Back Again Message-ID: I have returned from La Belle France, considerably poorer and not much wiser. In the course of my travels, I got to see the interior of two French hobby shops (nothing dramatic available that hasn't been discussed here hitherto). I spent a day at LeBourget, and will be able to provide detailed photos and notes of any of their OT planes. Alas, as noted previously, the cockpits are mostly impossible to get at... I perused the book store very carefully, and came away with several French works previously unknown to me. I also had a chance to buy a couple of issues of "Iccare" on the Lafayette Escadrille, and noted many photos that were new to me; I'd like to have a chance at their photo archives! What did I miss? Lance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:01:06 EDT From: Morg17ms@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Back Again Message-ID: Lance - bring some of the notable photos to Chicago with you, if you can! Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gaston's Techniques Archives Suggestions Message-ID: <20010614221918.58375.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Everyone, Isn't Andrei's offer of $50 per week in kits for the best new technique very generous?! Thanks Andrei, but won't that get kind of expensive for you? Todd --- Andreikor@aol.com wrote: > You go, Gaston! > All great ideas... just one more suggestion: > You should offer a $50.00 prize (in OT kits, of > course) for the "best > technique tip of the week" (tee-hee:) > > Cheers, > Andrei :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:58:17 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Back Again Message-ID: Lance wondered: "I have returned from La Belle France, considerably poorer and not much wiser." "What did I miss? Lance" Les vin? Les femmes? Les chansons? BTW, Icare also has some nice stuff on French OT issues, like a 2 volume overview (even though most photos in that one are now repeated in the FMP tome) Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:03:37 +1000 From: "Drew Ronayne" To: Subject: Off topic - Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques Message-ID: <00d801c0f526$3fa95c00$eef98ec6@t9hf2> Sorry for the off topic post, just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth: I was always a dedicated hand coder until I began using Dreamweaver. I started using it at version 2 and continue to use it as my main HTML tool, though I still hand code. MS Front Page still creates proprietary code and relies upon you using a server which supports it's extensions/functionality if you want all the bells and whistles. MM Dreamweaver, on the other hand creates very clean "legal" code which does not use server-specific extension support. DW is also extensible using commercial and freeware extension scripts (brilliant stuff). MS Front Page is WYSIWYG editor, and as such is easier to pick up and use. MM DW is not a WYSIWYG editor - it's a design tool, requiring at least a working knowledge of HTML to utilise it's potential. There are countless happy MSFP users out there, but MMDW is infinitely more powerful if you are prepared to learn to use it. Drew Ronayne Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, 15 June 2001 3:39 Subject: Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques > John_Impenna@hyperion.com wrote: > > > > Matt/Allan, > > Wouldn't Front Page be better?? > > > > John > > Hi John, > > Get a copy of Dreamweaver, that'll do the job far better than frontpage > ;-). > > I use it for the sites I run & have no complaints about it. > > Shane ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:53:24 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques Message-ID: <001901c0f52d$3564b620$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> For those not familiar with, (read: refuse to learn) Hard To Manipulate Ledgibly code, but have a technique or two to share; what would be the best way to prepare text so as to make it easy for the good people who have volunteered to help with this project? sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:16:12 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Yet another one Message-ID: <200106150014.RAA26399@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Yes, new images up from Karen. She's still sticking with the wonderful subjects!!! Well done! Matt Bittner WW1 Site Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:29:41 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques Message-ID: <200106142328.f5ENSVq68429@mail.rapidnet.net> type it up and add

after every paragraph, and then paste it into an email message with non-HTML formatting .. that will make nice, easily readable (and pastable) text regardless of what HTML program is used. Bob ---------- >From: "Steven Perry" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques >Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2001, 4:56 pm > > For those not familiar with, (read: refuse to learn) Hard To Manipulate > Ledgibly code, but have a technique or two to share; what would be the best > way to prepare text so as to make it easy for the good people who have > volunteered to help with this project? > sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:47:44 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: List Techniques Section was Re: Karen's Techniques Message-ID: <002401c0f534$ca575740$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > type it up and add

after every paragraph, and then paste it into an > email message with non-HTML formatting .. that will make nice, easily > readable (and pastable) text regardless of what HTML program is used. > > Bob That I can possibly handle with a little practice sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:14:07 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Question for the PC-10ophiles Message-ID: <003501c0f538$79c98ec0$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> Obviously the BE.2a was the first Royal Aircraft Factory machine to see operational service in WWI. Was there an RAF/RAE machine past the SE.5a to see operational use in at least squadron strength before 11/11/18? Just wondering as I set my SE5 next to my BE.2a in the case. sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:42:05 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles Message-ID: <200106150039.f5F0dDq70979@mail.rapidnet.net> Perhaps the Martinsyde Buzzard .. it was designed by Folland, who also did the SE5/5a iirc Bob ---------- >From: "Steven Perry" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Question for the PC-10ophiles >Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2001, 6:16 pm > > Obviously the BE.2a was the first Royal Aircraft Factory machine to see > operational service in WWI. Was there an RAF/RAE machine past the SE.5a to > see operational use in at least squadron strength before 11/11/18? > > Just wondering as I set my SE5 next to my BE.2a in the case. > sp > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:04:01 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Question for the PC-10ophiles Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7102BCD0F8@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Bob, in reply to SP: > > Was there an RAF/RAE machine past the SE.5a to > > see operational use in at least squadron strength before 11/11/18? > Perhaps the Martinsyde Buzzard .. it was designed by Folland, > who also did the SE5/5a iirc I think that SP means Royal Aircraft Factory manufactured in this case, so the Martinsyde Buzzard probably doesn't qualify. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). 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Merrill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:10:26 -0400 From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles Message-ID: <006901c0f540$5818b460$59b65c18@tampabay.rr.com> > Bob, in reply to SP: > > > > > Was there an RAF/RAE machine past the SE.5a to > > > see operational use in at least squadron strength before 11/11/18? > > > Perhaps the Martinsyde Buzzard .. it was designed by Folland, > > who also did the SE5/5a iirc > > I think that SP means Royal Aircraft Factory manufactured in this case, so > the Martinsyde Buzzard probably doesn't qualify. > > Shane Yup, I was thinking in terms of first & last for the manufacturer sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:43:47 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles Message-ID: <3B297663.000001.86713@ray.bconnected.net> I cant find any RAF/RAE aircraft that entered squadron service after the SE5a. Aircraft such as the NE1, TE1 and CE1 never got past prototype stage. Interestingly enough the RAF/RAE did solve the cooling problems of Granvilles Dragonfly engine. Only to run into insoluable problems with the Crankshaft self distructing. Some aircraft that the RAF/RAE had some hand in before they went to private industry were the SR2 that became the Siddely Siskin, Henry Follands SE4 and SE5 led to the Nieuport BN1 which led to the design of the Nighthawk Some engines became famous to after the war in other makers hands. The RAF8 was later developed into the Armstrong Siddley Jaguar. But as I said earlier I cannot find a production aircraft entering service after the SE5a -------Original Message------- From: Steven Perry Date: Thursday, June 14, 2001 07:13:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles > Bob, in reply to SP: > > > > > Was there an RAF/RAE machine past the SE.5a to > > > see operational use in at least squadron strength before 11/11/18? > > > Perhaps the Martinsyde Buzzard .. it was designed by Folland, > > who also did the SE5/5a iirc > > I think that SP means Royal Aircraft Factory manufactured in this case, so > the Martinsyde Buzzard probably doesn't qualify. > > Shane Yup, I was thinking in terms of first & last for the manufacturer sp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles Message-ID: <20010615030629.90606.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Isn't there a book, 'Aircraft of the Royal Aircraft Factory' available? I remember seeing something like that. At Midland Pubs., I think. Todd --- Ray Boorman wrote: > I cant find any RAF/RAE aircraft that entered > squadron service after the > SE5a. > Aircraft such as the NE1, TE1 and CE1 never got past > prototype stage. > Interestingly enough the RAF/RAE did solve the > cooling problems of > Granvilles Dragonfly engine. Only to run into > insoluable problems with the > Crankshaft self distructing. > > Some aircraft that the RAF/RAE had some hand in > before they went to private > industry were the SR2 that became the Siddely > Siskin, Henry Follands SE4 and > SE5 led to the Nieuport BN1 which led to the design > of the Nighthawk > > Some engines became famous to after the war in other > makers hands. > The RAF8 was later developed into the Armstrong > Siddley Jaguar. But as I > said earlier I cannot find a production aircraft > entering service after the > SE5a > > -------Original Message------- > From: Steven Perry > Date: Thursday, June 14, 2001 07:13:19 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles > > Bob, in reply to SP: > > > > > > > > Was there an RAF/RAE machine past the SE.5a to > > > > see operational use in at least squadron > strength before 11/11/18? > > > > > Perhaps the Martinsyde Buzzard .. it was > designed by Folland, > > > who also did the SE5/5a iirc > > > > I think that SP means Royal Aircraft Factory > manufactured in this case, so > > the Martinsyde Buzzard probably doesn't qualify. > > > > Shane > Yup, I was thinking in terms of first & last for the > manufacturer > sp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:51:21 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Question for the PC-10ophiles Message-ID: <3B298639.000003.86713@ray.bconnected.net> Yup Aeroplanes of the Royal Aircraft Factory by Paul Hare published by Crowood Press >From: Todd Hayes >Isn't there a book, 'Aircraft of the Royal Aircraft >Factory' available? I remember seeing something like >that. At Midland Pubs., I think. >Todd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:17:10 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Gaston's Techniques Archives Suggestions Message-ID: Good idea - but who pays the kits and handles the shipping? Any volounteers? Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > Andreikor@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:40 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Gaston's Techniques Archives Suggestions > > > You go, Gaston! > All great ideas... just one more suggestion: > You should offer a $50.00 prize (in OT kits, of course) for the "best > technique tip of the week" (tee-hee:) > > Cheers, > Andrei :) ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3447 **********************