WWI Digest 3444 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: WWI digest 3440 by Eric Hotz 2) Re: WWI digest 3440 by Todd Hayes 3) Re: Spam by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 4) Re: Spam/again by "TOM PLESHA" 5) Re: Spam/again by "Ray Boorman" 6) Re: CSM Gotha Review - Sneak Preview by "David Calhoun" 7) Avions 99 by "Matt Bittner" 8) Fokker D.VII Big News by Todd Hayes 9) Gavia Bristol and Eduard Nie.11 by Todd Hayes 10) RE: How accurate is the Revell/Hobbycraft 1:28 Triplane? Pros and Cons by "John Glaser" 11) Classic Plane on-line by Karen Rychlewski 12) RE: How accurate is the Revell/Hobbycraft 1:28 Triplane? Pros and Cons by Todd Hayes 13) Speaking of Junkers aircraft - was: Classic Plane on-line by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 14) RE: Avions 99 by Crawford Neil 15) card models by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 16) RE: Avions 99 by "dfernet0" 17) RE: spamming the world by "dfernet0" 18) RE: New Eduard Nie-11 by "dfernet0" 19) RE: Avions 99 by "Matt Bittner" 20) Re: Classic Plane on-line by "Matt Bittner" 21) RE: Avions 99 by "dfernet0" 22) RE: spamming the world by "dfernet0" 23) Romanian Markings? by Eric Hotz 24) Re: NKR's website by "Tom Sollers" 25) RE: Romanian Markings? by "Gaston Graf" 26) Re: Fokker D.VII Big News by "Tom Sollers" 27) List goes mad by David Fleming 28) RE: List goes mad by Crawford Neil 29) Re: Romanian Markings? by "Michael Kendix" 30) Re: List goes mad by Matt Bittner 31) Karen's Techniques by Andreikor@aol.com 32) RE: Romanian Markings? by Volker Haeusler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:01:00 -0700 From: Eric Hotz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 3440 Message-ID: Hello to all, I received this message from a friend of mine this morning: >Hi Eric: >I want to a wrinkle to my 25mm colonial period wargames by including a light >bomber of fighter/recon aircraft to my games set on the North West Frontier. >Apparently in the Third Afghan War (1919) they made use of RAF aircraft. Do >you know what kind these would have been? Do you know if these - what ever >they are - are available in 1/48 (I am going big for impact on the >table -1/48 is not that far off the big 28mm figs I use)? I beleive that >they used BE2C - does that ring a bell? > >Any info would be greatly appreciated. >Cheers, >Chris I assume the aircraft they used would have been a Be2c (Be2d/e). Could they have also used some Nieuports or Bristol F2b's? Take care... --- Eric Hotz +-----------------------------------------------------------+ HOTZ ARTWORKS-ILLUSTRATION & DESIGN http://www.erichotz.com Phone & FAX: (604) 619-6925 / e-mail: mailto:erichotz@direct.ca Address: Suite 110-19567 Fraser Hwy, Surrey, BC V3S 9A4 Canada Larry Leadhead, "The Gamer's Comic Strip": http://www.larryleadhead.org +-----------------------------------------------------------+ After all is said and done, usually more is said than done. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:50:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI digest 3440 Message-ID: <20010613235049.21185.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> The Bristol F2B sounds right, and posssibly Sopwith Snipes? --- Eric Hotz wrote: > Hello to all, > > I received this message from a friend of mine this > morning: > > >Hi Eric: > >I want to a wrinkle to my 25mm colonial period > wargames by including a light > >bomber of fighter/recon aircraft to my games set on > the North West Frontier. > >Apparently in the Third Afghan War (1919) they made > use of RAF aircraft. Do > >you know what kind these would have been? Do you > know if these - what ever > >they are - are available in 1/48 (I am going big > for impact on the > >table -1/48 is not that far off the big 28mm figs I > use)? I beleive that > >they used BE2C - does that ring a bell? > > > >Any info would be greatly appreciated. > >Cheers, > >Chris > > I assume the aircraft they used would have been a > Be2c (Be2d/e). > Could they have also used some Nieuports or Bristol > F2b's? > > > Take care... > > --- > > Eric Hotz > > +-----------------------------------------------------------+ > HOTZ ARTWORKS-ILLUSTRATION & DESIGN > http://www.erichotz.com > Phone & FAX: (604) 619-6925 / e-mail: > mailto:erichotz@direct.ca > Address: Suite 110-19567 Fraser Hwy, Surrey, BC > V3S 9A4 Canada > Larry Leadhead, "The Gamer's Comic Strip": > http://www.larryleadhead.org > +-----------------------------------------------------------+ > After all is said and done, usually more is said > than done. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:53:58 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Spam Message-ID: <015a01c0f464$1da4f230$d83f183f@cyrixp166> I see a little Spam here & there, but it is not much of a problem for me. I guess I am much more troubled by all of the "Mime" that gets posted. It is tough to wade through & there is a lot of it. Regards, John Cyg . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:24:39 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Spam/again Message-ID: <000801c0f468$6759fa20$65414c0c@tom> I agree with John. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Spam > I see a little Spam here & there, but it is not much of a problem for me. I > guess I am much more troubled by all of the "Mime" that gets posted. It is > tough to wade through & there is a lot of it. > > Regards, > John Cyg . > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:22:55 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: Re: Spam/again Message-ID: <3B2811EF.000001.47785@ray.bconnected.net> Seconded, plus posts that quote entire other posts that quote entire other posts. etc etc. Ray >From: TOM PLESHA >I agree with John. >Tom >>I am much more troubled by all of the "Mime" that gets posted. It is >> tough to wade through & there is a lot of it. >> Regards, John Cyg . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 22:03:33 -0700 From: "David Calhoun" To: Subject: Re: CSM Gotha Review - Sneak Preview Message-ID: <023801c0f48f$5dd7d360$17d1fc40@oemcomputer> Hi Brent, Gotha build looks good. Did you ever get the Brandenburg W29 article & photos that I e-mailed you last month? Didn't see it on the Roll site. Let me know if you need it sent away - I sent it when you were over seas. Dave Calhoun ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Theobald" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: CSM Gotha Review - Sneak Preview > Howdy gang, > > I put the out of the box review up on the Roll Models web site this weekend. > I haven't linked it yet. I have a few small things to "tweak" before going > fully public with it. There's also a good chance that I can get my first > "online build" page working soon too. I figure everyone will want to see how > the interior is coming along. > > http://www.rollmodels.com/reviews/CSM-Gotha/gotha01.htm > > Btw, comments are very helpful. Please send them to me at: > brent@rollmodels.com > > Have a good one! > > Brent > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:20:36 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Avions 99 Message-ID: <200106140218.TAA26611@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Just picked up Avions 99. The Nieuport 16 photo Neil was talking about is AWESOME!!! It's a *line up* of Nie.16's, most of them with Le Prieur rockets. Superb! Thank you Neil for the head's up on this one!!! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:57:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Fokker D.VII Big News Message-ID: <20010614025720.24441.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Hi all, Has anyone noticed yet that Squadron lists a 1:32 injection molded Fokker D.VII bt Battle Axe from France under it's advanced order section? Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Gavia Bristol and Eduard Nie.11 Message-ID: <20010614030216.3131.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> I just noticed that Barry has these kits in stock now. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:10:29 -0500 From: "John Glaser" To: Subject: RE: How accurate is the Revell/Hobbycraft 1:28 Triplane? Pros and Cons Message-ID: <000101c0f487$f3408cb0$0300a8c0@jcgws> Todd: I hate it when my posts are orphaned with no replies and I'm sure you do too. So out of lurk mode, here's a reply: Please see Windsock Vol. 14, No. 1 for January 1998. The 1st installment of Dr.1 kit review summaries is there. In it, RLR declares the big Revell kit as "the best all-plastic Dr.1 ever kitted." There are some gripes about the clunky cockpit details, heavy tailskid, etc., but these are easily corrected. One of the biggest gripes I've seen on the list, and mentioned in the Windsock article, are the asymmetrical ailerons not found on all machines of this type. I believe if you search the list archives, you'll find commentary on this and suggested corrections from either EtH or DB. Hope this helps. - John Glaser -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Todd Hayes Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: How accurate is the Revell/Hobbycraft 1:28 Triplane? Pros and Cons __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:11 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: to post Subject: Classic Plane on-line Message-ID: <3B283E4C.7301CBF6@earthlink.net> FYI, the German model shop run by Detlef Schorsch has a website which is being slowly 'constructed.' http://www.classic-plane-mrr.de/index.html Checking it today, I see he finally has a list of available kits, among them the Classic Plane Junkers J.II in resin, and four of the Luedemann resin kits that Volker was recently waxing so ecstatic about: Rumpler 4C Taube, AEG C.IV, Lloyd 40.05 "Flugzeugjäger“, and the Lohner B.II. All these would be in teeny scale. There's also a few photos in the 'Galery' of one of the Taubes. Apparently you still have to send an email to order (ask about other Luedemanns if you do) and Detlef can be a bit slow to respond. He does take credit cards. ...no connection...no affiliation...satisfied customer...etc. etc. Dame Karen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:43:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: How accurate is the Revell/Hobbycraft 1:28 Triplane? Pros and Cons Message-ID: <20010614044323.43946.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks. --- John Glaser wrote: > Todd: > > I hate it when my posts are orphaned with no replies > and I'm sure you do > too. So out of lurk mode, here's a reply: > > Please see Windsock Vol. 14, No. 1 for January 1998. > The 1st installment of > Dr.1 kit review summaries is there. In it, RLR > declares the big Revell kit > as "the best all-plastic Dr.1 ever kitted." There > are some gripes about the > clunky cockpit details, heavy tailskid, etc., but > these are easily > corrected. One of the biggest gripes I've seen on > the list, and mentioned > in the Windsock article, are the asymmetrical > ailerons not found on all > machines of this type. I believe if you search the > list archives, you'll > find commentary on this and suggested corrections > from either EtH or DB. > > Hope this helps. > > - John Glaser > > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org > [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Todd > Hayes > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:53 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: How accurate is the Revell/Hobbycraft 1:28 > Triplane? Pros and > Cons > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - > only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:52:25 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Speaking of Junkers aircraft - was: Classic Plane on-line Message-ID: <006501c0f496$31707820$7f01010a@jaring.my> As Karen just mentioned that on the Classic Plane webpage is also > the Classic Plane Junkers J.II in resin, and four of the Luedemann > resin kits that Volker was recently waxing so ecstatic about: Rumpler 4C > Taube, AEG C.IV, Lloyd 40.05 "Flugzeugjäger", and the Lohner B.II I saw that kit when in the Modellbaustudio 2 weeks ago, and it looks quite nice. Seems to be based on the Phoenix vac that Steve Cox did and described in the last Internet Modeler. However, even more interesting might be another Junkers that I also saw (and bought) over there: There's also a Classic Plane resin Junkers J 1 (Junkers, not military designation). Also, as all those Classic Plane and Luedemann resins in the right 72 scale. For those who wonder, the J 1 is the original twoseater mid wing monoplane, quite similar to the J 2 single seat fighter. One of the real epoch making aircraft of all time. The kit is very good, with a single piece fuselage plus seperate decking for the cockpit area, well done wings and extremely nice detail parts. Again, the price is quite attractive, below 30 German Marks (that's about US $ 12 in these day!). Too, Detlef Schorsch had quite a number of the famous Czechmaster Junkers J 4/ J I contact patrol aircraft in stock. Again, the price was good, lower in German marks than the onlz US dealer I found for this kit is asking in $ - and then you have 43 cents per Mark! Volker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:07:16 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Avions 99 Message-ID: I think "very nice" is quite sufficient, I'll stick to that;-) /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: den 14 juni 2001 04:23 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Avions 99 > > > Just picked up Avions 99. The Nieuport 16 photo Neil was > talking about > is AWESOME!!! It's a *line up* of Nie.16's, most of them with Le > Prieur rockets. Superb! > > Thank you Neil for the head's up on this one!!! > > > Matt Bittner > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:58:44 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: card models Message-ID: <20.17dae75d.2859c8b4@aol.com> Some nice stuff at http://www2.gol.com/users/ransell/ All OT cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:20:22 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Avions 99 Message-ID: <00da01c0f4bb$9f322820$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Wow! I got to see those... BTW, I've always wanted to know... what's the difference amongst Nieuports 11 and 16? There was any Nieuport 13 or it was bad luck? D. nl:Dire straits... "So far away" ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner > Just picked up Avions 99. The Nieuport 16 photo Neil was talking about > is AWESOME!!! It's a *line up* of Nie.16's, most of them with Le > Prieur rockets. Superb! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:24:21 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: spamming the world Message-ID: <010801c0f4bc$2d69a0a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Shane wrote: > Clearly the lunatic element of the list is resident in the Southern > Americas. Don't play the innocent here, mate! We know you and the other Shane and Mrs. Lorna too well! D. with apologies to other judicious australian members. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:28:28 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: New Eduard Nie-11 Message-ID: <011401c0f4bc$c05fb2a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Shane wrote: > HA! If it's good enough for me, it's good enough for you ! Dawdle ye not > along the road to completion ! Lay down your soul upon the railroad tracks > of modelling life and be prepared for your sacrifice to the Gods of Styrene > ! Wasn't my sacrifice enough to have sanded for DAYS the godawful Merlin Halberstadt and just to hear that Pegasus is gonna release a D.II the next day? Isn't my offerings enough to draw, make, paint and build interior detail that no one will see once the model is assembled? What shopuld I offer to Modelling Gods? D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:28:13 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: RE: Avions 99 Message-ID: <200106141026.DAA25363@hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 06:21:16 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > Wow! I got to see those... > BTW, I've always wanted to know... what's the difference amongst Nieuports > 11 and 16? There was any Nieuport 13 or it was bad luck? There is actually some controversy to that one. Normally they say the engine, but there have been some 11's with the larger engine, and some 16's with the smaller engine. In general, though, the 16 had the larger engine and the headrest. The larger engine is why you'll find 16's with Le Prieur's, but not 11's. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:28:53 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Classic Plane on-line Message-ID: <200106141026.DAA27066@hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:36:04 -0400 (EDT), Karen Rychlewski wrote: > FYI, the German model shop run by Detlef Schorsch has a website which is > being slowly 'constructed.' > http://www.classic-plane-mrr.de/index.html FYI, there is now a link to them from the Links page on the WW1 site. Matt Bittner WW1 Site Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:35:31 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Avions 99 Message-ID: <018501c0f4bd$bc84f400$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks Matt! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Bittner > There is actually some controversy to that one. -snip- > The larger engine is why you'll find > 16's with Le Prieur's, but not 11's. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:49:34 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: spamming the world Message-ID: <01b001c0f4bf$b31e1d40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Marcio wrote: > But you forgot to add the nice stories. -snip- LOL!!!!!!!! You won me with this one, Marcio! You certainly tuned the list wicked sense of humour! :-) Regards D. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:07:48 -0700 From: Eric Hotz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Romanian Markings? Message-ID: Romanian Markings?
Hello to All,

Does anyone know what  emblem the Romanians used on their aircraft during WWI?  Someone told me that it was a blue circle with a yellow centre -- is this correct?

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I hope I die in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like his passengers.
------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:32:15 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: NKR's website Message-ID: <200106141133.f5EBXYT04018@mail.bcpl.net> >The URL for NKR is: >http://www.nkrmodels.com.au/ > Thanks, John! I'll give them a try! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:42:53 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Romanian Markings? Message-ID: Eric, please for the sake of the digest mode members: SWITCH OF HTML ENCODING (=MIME)!!! Your message would be reduced to this: --------------------------------------------- Does anyone know what emblem the Romanians used on their aircraft during WWI? Someone told me that it was a blue circle with a yellow centre -- is this correct? Eric Hotz --------------------------------------------- Can you see the difference? Hope you understand that most mailing lists as well as internet forums work with ASCII encoded (simple text) messages only. with my kindest regards Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > Romanian Markings? >
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Does anyone know what  emblem the Romanians used on their > aircraft during WWI?  Someone told me that it was a blue circle > with a yellow centre -- is this correct?
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> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:49:49 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker D.VII Big News Message-ID: <200106141149.f5EBnoT06645@mail.bcpl.net> >Has anyone noticed yet that Squadron lists a 1:32 >injection molded Fokker D.VII bt Battle Axe from >France under it's advanced order section? > >Todd WOW! Now, that IS big news! Anyone familiar with the quality of Battle Axe kits? Check it out at: http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=bx3201 Thanks, Todd! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:19:12 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: List goes mad Message-ID: <3B288190.E8B169A1@dial.pipex.com> I go away for a few days. After checking my mail vial the web, after 2 days I have 108 messages. 24 hours later I have 280 ! In an attempt to overcome my modeller's block, I followed my own advice and bought a tank (gasp) - it's ok though, it's Emhar's 1/72 MKIV !! I don't care about the supposed inaccuracies, I'm just going to build it !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:08:13 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: List goes mad Message-ID: We had some early morning fun yesterday, Shane was still awake and we got to discussing Nieuports which generated a lot of mail, then the potted meat debate started, on the whole a fairly ordinary day on the list. Something that is mad can't go mad! /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:20:02 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Romanian Markings? Message-ID: >From: Eric Hotz >Does anyone know what; emblem the Romanians used on their >aircraft during WWI? Someone told me that it was a blue circle >with a yellow centre -- is this correct? Eric: The following book: Farman F40 1916-1919 Corpul Roman de Aviatie by Serban Ionescu Modelism International, Bucharest ISBN 973-98883-5-6 was reviewed by Peter Leonard for Internet Modeler, see http://www.internetmodeler.com/1999/nov99/new-releases/book_farman.htm in which the Romanians used Farman F-40's with French roundels and they painted the white section yellow. So from inside to outside it would be blue-yellow-red. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 05:24:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Bittner To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: List goes mad Message-ID: <20010614122438.19986.qmail@web11707.mail.yahoo.com> --- David Fleming wrote: > In an attempt to overcome my modeller's block, I followed my > own advice > and bought a tank (gasp) - it's ok though, it's Emhar's 1/72 > MKIV !! I > don't care about the supposed inaccuracies, I'm just going to > build it > !! Excellent choice! It's an easy kit that looks great after building it. Definitely supply images of it to the site!! Matt Bittner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:35:40 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Karen's Techniques Message-ID: <23.d0b60d2.285a099c@aol.com> Karen, Thanks for the explanation of your techniques... if there isn't already a section on the site where techniques like these can be stored and referenced, perhaps there should be??? Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 04:39:19 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Romanian Markings? Message-ID: Beside a lot of public "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> " stuff Eric asked: "Does anyone know what emblem the Romanians used on their aircraft during WWI? Someone told me that it was a blue circle with a yellow centre -- is this correct?" Well, If I could read Polish I could tell you for sure, as the book "Sojusznicy Luftwaffe czesc 1" (which deals mainly with Bulgarian, Romanian and Slovak aircraft flown during the sequel) has also some info on WW I aircraft markings. As the text *is* in Polish and I *can not* read it (even though I spend three years in the Czech Republic with it´s quite similar language...), I must judge from the photos and the few word I can decipher: Beside a number of exotic rudder markings, the Romanians used (at least on some aircraft) a two color cockade already during the Balkan wars - was that the first military cockade marking? Dark outer and light inner ring/circle. Comparing the relative darknesses to later shadea, the outer circle might have been in the dark/violet blue of the later cockade, the inner one yellow. Marking for example on a Bleriot IX Next possible markings (in time consequence) in 1913 only on the rudder, plain wings. Again light (front) and dark (back) divison with two colors only. For possible colors see above. Later caudrons and Bleriots show a two (or three - front might be unpainted or yellow) colored rudder, but seem to have already three colored cockade. These definitely are also on ni 17´s (two photos that I could find), with the colors being (here the Czech finally helps) blue (outer ring) - yellow (middle ring) - red (center. Rudder stripes here red - yellow - blue front to back. Volker ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3444 **********************