WWI Digest 3419 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: More NATS news by Craig Gavin 2) RE: Game Day This Saturday by Shane Weier 3) Shuttleworth Photos by Andreikor@aol.com 4) Luftwaffe invades NJ? by Andreikor@aol.com 5) Re: PHONIX D.II by 6) Nats attendees redux by "Matt Bittner" 7) RE: Fokker DVI by "dfernet0" 8) R: Nats attendees redux by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 9) RE: Nats attendees redux by "dfernet0" 10) RE: OT Shadow of the Vampire by "dfernet0" 11) Re: PHONIX D.II by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 12) Re: Fokker DVI by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 13) RV: Bollettino 06/01 by "dfernet0" 14) Seaplanes Help! by =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= 15) RE: Seaplanes Help! by "dfernet0" 16) NS Nats pics by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" 17) Re: Bollettino 06/01 by "TOM PLESHA" 18) RE: Bollettino 06/01 by "dfernet0" 19) Pegasus Halberstadt CL-II wanted by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 20) Roseplane Spad XI by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 21) RE: Roseplane Spad XI by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" 22) R: Roseplane Spad XI by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 23) Re: Nats attendees redux by Peter Fedders 24) RE: Roseplane Spad XI by Crawford Neil 25) RE: Roseplane Spad XI by "dfernet0" 26) Re: warbird repros was RE: Another Warbird Down In France by "Hans Trauner" 27) partial OT question for Aussie compadres by Myles Miller 28) Re: Seaplanes Help! by "Hans Trauner" 29) Re: partial OT question for Aussie compadres by "Michael Kendix" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:54:29 -0500 From: Craig Gavin To: Subject: Re: More NATS news Message-ID: Bob - Does that mean that those of us who are geographically challenged have to wait our turn until after the Nats? Or are you taking advanced orders (pant, pant - droole, droole)? - Craig Gavin + > From: "Robert Norgren" > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:45:24 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: More NATS news > > Yep, I'll be at the Nats from Wednesday afternoon on. Hope to have the 1/72 > Gotha G.I kit. > > Bob > Sierra Scale Models > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:33:53 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Game Day This Saturday Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101749105@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Dave says : > Huh? > > Because Al says: > > This is a reminder that Game Day is this Saturday. > Scheduled games are > > Alesia and Brandywine. Both are large scale efforts and are > bound to be > > awesome games. Also, last I heard Two Tin Soldiers was > planning on comming > > and bringing goods to sell. Code for.... Voss' cowl was blue PC.10 is a shade of pink Silbergrau was a shiny gold lame` ....and MvR was a big girls blouse...... Shane ;-) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 International ++61 7 38338042 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:05:02 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Shuttleworth Photos Message-ID: Drew wrote: Thanks for the heads-up, Drew! Beautiful images! And happy birthday! Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:13:04 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Luftwaffe invades NJ? Message-ID: > If you suddenly notice a flight over Guernica, let us know, > ok?Cheers,Andrei >> > > Guernica, that's in New Jersey, right? ;) > Glen > Well, the Hunz always dreamed to get that far with their Blitzkrieg and invasion games. Maybe this time :o)? The thing that kept the Luftwaffe from invading New Jersey was knowing that their aircraft would be stripped within minutes of landing at Newark! Cheers, Andrei ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:32:00 +0200 From: To: Subject: Re: PHONIX D.II Message-ID: <20010606083210Z327788-19975+139@mail.centrum.cz> I don't have MAC's Roland, I've seen only fist look at Internet Modeler but I can say that the quality is very similar. Three areas need special attention: -interior -engine is quite simple and needs some detailing -wing are thick on the trailing edges D.II has three decal options, well ilustrated in the instructions but with no description of units or pilots. Pavel Tichy Hrajte on-line hry na http://herna.centrum.cz Zalo¾te si svùj mail na http://mail.centrum.cz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 05:10:20 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Nats attendees redux Message-ID: <200106061008.DAA13680@avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net> So far I have: Me Michael Kendix Karen Rychlewski Tom Plesha (maybe) Brent Theobald Andrei Koribanics (maybe) Eli Geher John Huggins Tom Morgan Dave Burke Steve Hustad Glen Broman Greg Van Wyngarden Bob Horton Al Superczynski Bob Norgren Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:25:59 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Fokker DVI Message-ID: <008001c0ee73$1469c660$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Charlie! > I'll blame it on being an art major in college one would never copy > another's painting or drawing. I have no degree in art but I feel the same inclination. > In looking the FMP Pfalz book table on aircraft inventory > there were only 21 Fokker D.VI in June 1918 and 27 in August 1918 (wonder > where the rest of the 60 built went?). So there wasn't too many different > schemes for us to pick from to begin with..... That means that I should hurry before all the list members choose them? > Am now working on the 1/48 HR Martinsyde S.1 which 'really' limits the > choices in schemes (but the unique four-wheel undercarriage does make-up for > lack of color). I'm looking forward to see it on the galleries! D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:23:16 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: R: Nats attendees redux Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E901482F@SERVER1> Oh. how I would like to be there, too!!!! Alberto Casirati -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Matt Bittner [SMTP:tbittners@sprintmail.com] Inviato: mercoledi 6 giugno 2001 12.14 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: Nats attendees redux So far I have: Me Michael Kendix Karen Rychlewski Tom Plesha (maybe) Brent Theobald Andrei Koribanics (maybe) Eli Geher John Huggins Tom Morgan Dave Burke Steve Hustad Glen Broman Greg Van Wyngarden Bob Horton Al Superczynski Bob Norgren Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:37:29 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Nats attendees redux Message-ID: <009501c0ee74$af70dbc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> We would have a good time. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:33 AM Subject: R: Nats attendees redux > Oh. how I would like to be there, too!!!! > > Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:46:38 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: OT Shadow of the Vampire Message-ID: <010401c0ee75$f714e560$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Todd! I watched the original "Nosferatu" shortly after seeing the letest movie. It's spooky and I can only imagine how frightening it should have looked for audiences in 1922. As a kid, I watched the Klaus Kinski version and the damned movie was to be blamed for a number of nightmares well after seeing the movie! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Hayes To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: RE: OT Shadow of the Vampire > It looked pretty good. The scene you mention is when > Murnau flies Count Orlok to Heligoland. Have you seen > the original 'Nosferatu'? Death would probably be no > stranger to the cast members. Since it was done in > 1922, I'd bet most of the men were ex-soldiers. > > Todd ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:46:29 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: PHONIX D.II Message-ID: <20010606104629.22241.qmail@web3203.mail.yahoo.com> --- patx@centrum.cz wrote: > I don't have MAC's Roland, I've seen only fist look > at Internet > Modeler but I can say that the quality is very > similar. > Three areas need special attention: > -interior > -engine is quite simple and needs some detailing > -wing are thick on the trailing edges > D.II has three decal options, well ilustrated in the > instructions > but with no description of units or pilots. > > Pavel Tichy > > Hi there Pavel! Concerning your original question on colour schemes, and Bob Pearson's excellent answer I would just like to add something: according with "traditional" knowledge of A-H camouflage, the Phönix was "rag-splotched" at the factory in brown (D.I) or green (D.II). The quantity of paint still in the rag in each "splotch" would vary, giving lighter or darker "splotches". Since the "splotching" was really dense the general look would be of an uneven dark green (the colour-equivalent for the general impression is given in the Datafile). HOWEVER! We used to be told that this finish was applied over the original materials (wooden fuselage, fabric wings) resulting in a dark fuselage and lighter wings. This seems to be apparent on contemporary photos and worth reproducing. Comments anyone? Fernando Cecílio (who still doesn't really believe...) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:49:10 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Fokker DVI Message-ID: <20010606104910.23876.qmail@web3201.mail.yahoo.com> --- Charlie and Linda Duckworth wrote: In looking the FMP Pfalz book table > on aircraft inventory > there were only 21 Fokker D.VI in June 1918 and 27 > in August 1918 (wonder > where the rest of the 60 built went?). As for the rest of absurd things, have you thought of looking for them in Austro-Hungary at about the same time? Fernando Cecilio ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:03:01 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: "ww1 list" Subject: RV: Bollettino 06/01 Message-ID: <015601c0ee78$4121e340$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Here's misterkit new list, as usual D. A MODEL 72053 U-1 (AVRO 504) L. 30.000 BLUE RIDER INSIGNA MAGAZINE #16 BR415 1/72 CHILEAN AF 1913-1923 L. 15.000 EXTRATECH 72125 1/72 GOTHA G. III L. 13.000 HR MODELS 7270 HANSA BRANDENBURG C.I L. 35.000 ROSEMONT WWI KITS AND ACCESSORIES 200 WWI DRACHEN (OBSERVATION BALLON) L. 60.000 201 RNAS SOPWITH CAMEL LIGHTER L. 70.000 202 WING UNITS L. 25.000 203 CAQUOT (OBSERVATION BALLON) L. 65.000 204 SPAD S. 11 L. 48.000 205 HANRIOT HD 3 L. 50.000 206 FARMAN F 40BIS L. 50.000 207 RAF RE5 L. 50.000 208 OEFFAG C.II L. 50.000 72002 SIEMENS SHUCKERT Dr.I L. 70.000 72003 SPAD A-2 L. 75.000 606 FOKKER F.1 UPDATE SET L. 25.000 605 HANSA BRANDENBURG D.1 CONVERSION L. 30.000 601 FOKKER D.VII CONVERSION (REVELL) L. 20.000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:03:45 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fernando=20Cecilio?= To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Seaplanes Help! Message-ID: <20010606110345.8441.qmail@web3202.mail.yahoo.com> Hi everybody! Thanks hugely for your "gray aircraft" participation. I am compiling everything and I will be back with more questions. Not today. I am begging for information: 1 - Where can I get a Hansa-Brandenburg W13 (that's thirteen) ? Any kits? Any scale plans? Just imagine a German naval hexagon covered plane with k.ü.k. Seeflieger red/white stripes... 2 - Does anybody know the differences between the Austro-Hungarian Phönix A flying boat (first series ?) and the Phönix A.2 ? 3 - Does anybody know a source for out-of-print Austrian books? Any specialist bookshop there or in Germany? Thanks a lot! Fernando Cecílio (no, I still don't...) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:18:23 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Seaplanes Help! Message-ID: <017b01c0ee7a$668b4d40$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Fernando! > 1 - Where can I get a Hansa-Brandenburg W13 (that's > thirteen) ? > Any kits? Any scale plans? As for kits, I would dare to say that there's none... however there's a wide selection of W12s.. Would you be able to convert it to a 13? I can't say for myself, as i don't have no W.13 plans! > Just imagine a German naval hexagon covered plane with > k.ü.k. Seeflieger red/white stripes... Neat! > 3 - Does anybody know a source for out-of-print > Austrian books? Any specialist bookshop there or in > Germany? Volker? Hans? D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:15:16 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: NS Nats pics Message-ID: <850CD1B940F1D31181590000929B19DA0186D685@mail3.stratcom.mil> I'm looking at images of the New Zealand IPMS Nats. There's a very nicely done Albatros C.X in 1/72nd that took first in its category: http://www.kithobbyist.com/IPMSNewZealand/nats01/images/albatross.jpg Cool! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:50:18 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Bollettino 06/01 Message-ID: <000701c0ee87$3e7aba40$64434c0c@tom> Hi D- Are these all 1/72 ? Some are obviously, the others? TIA Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "dfernet0" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:02 AM Subject: RV: Bollettino 06/01 > Hi > Here's misterkit new list, as usual > D. > > A MODEL > 72053 U-1 (AVRO 504) L. 30.000 > > BLUE RIDER > INSIGNA MAGAZINE #16 > BR415 1/72 CHILEAN AF 1913-1923 L. 15.000 > > EXTRATECH > 72125 1/72 GOTHA G. III L. 13.000 > > HR MODELS > 7270 HANSA BRANDENBURG C.I L. 35.000 > > ROSEMONT WWI KITS AND ACCESSORIES > 200 WWI DRACHEN (OBSERVATION BALLON) L. 60.000 > 201 RNAS SOPWITH CAMEL LIGHTER L. 70.000 > 202 WING UNITS L. 25.000 > 203 CAQUOT (OBSERVATION BALLON) L. 65.000 > 204 SPAD S. 11 L. 48.000 > 205 HANRIOT HD 3 L. 50.000 > 206 FARMAN F 40BIS L. 50.000 > 207 RAF RE5 L. 50.000 > 208 OEFFAG C.II L. 50.000 > 72002 SIEMENS SHUCKERT Dr.I L. 70.000 > 72003 SPAD A-2 L. 75.000 > 606 FOKKER F.1 UPDATE SET L. 25.000 > 605 HANSA BRANDENBURG D.1 CONVERSION L. 30.000 > 601 FOKKER D.VII CONVERSION (REVELL) L. 20.000 > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:41:07 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Bollettino 06/01 Message-ID: <007a01c0ee8e$573483c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Tom! > Are these all 1/72 ? Some are obviously, the others? Iguess that they are by the catalog prefix "72" D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:47:30 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Pegasus Halberstadt CL-II wanted Message-ID: Hi Folks, Does anyone have a spare one of these they are willing to part with?? I have been looking at my dinky scale Formaplane and think I'd rather tackle the Pegasus kit. Let me know. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:48:57 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Roseplane Spad XI Message-ID: Hi Folks, Can you folks tell me how good this kit is?? I seem to remember some info about it not too long ago, but was not successful when searching the archives....TIA for any help! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:02:38 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Roseplane Spad XI Message-ID: <850CD1B940F1D31181590000929B19DA0186D8AF@mail3.stratcom.mil> > -----Original Message----- > From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com [mailto:John_Impenna@hyperion.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:57 AM > Can you folks tell me how good this kit is?? I seem to > remember some info > about it not too long ago, but was not successful when searching the > archives....TIA for any help! It's a nice kit, but not without its flaws. The two biggest flaws are the upper wing is too short in span, and the fuselage is too short as well, forward of the pilot's cockpit. The only other alternative is the Planet resin, and it's lacking the "riblets" on the wings as well as the "slope" of the turtldeck. In addition, since it's a resin (and not done by one of the best resin makers) it's a bit thick in places. So, pick what you want to correct and/or the medium you want to work in. The Planet is definitely buildable - Internet Modeler had Dennis' build of it, and he did a great job, especially since he didn't correct any of the mistakes. I'm lobbying Rosemont to correct their kit, but feel that I should come up with the replacement parts, especially the nose. I'm still pondering it...but have no time to do so. First I need to finish some in progress kits... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:09:12 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: R: Roseplane Spad XI Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E9014839@SERVER1> C'mon, Matt, we really need to see some of your WW1 beauties ! Finish those ot kits off and turn to REAL modelling ! just joking....... Alberto -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U [SMTP:BITTNERM@stratcom.mil] Inviato: mercoledi 6 giugno 2001 17.08 A: Multiple recipients of list Oggetto: RE: Roseplane Spad XI > -----Original Message----- > From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com [mailto:John_Impenna@hyperion.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:57 AM > Can you folks tell me how good this kit is?? I seem to > remember some info > about it not too long ago, but was not successful when searching the > archives....TIA for any help! It's a nice kit, but not without its flaws. The two biggest flaws are the upper wing is too short in span, and the fuselage is too short as well, forward of the pilot's cockpit. The only other alternative is the Planet resin, and it's lacking the "riblets" on the wings as well as the "slope" of the turtldeck. In addition, since it's a resin (and not done by one of the best resin makers) it's a bit thick in places. So, pick what you want to correct and/or the medium you want to work in. The Planet is definitely buildable - Internet Modeler had Dennis' build of it, and he did a great job, especially since he didn't correct any of the mistakes. I'm lobbying Rosemont to correct their kit, but feel that I should come up with the replacement parts, especially the nose. I'm still pondering it...but have no time to do so. First I need to finish some in progress kits... Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:14:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Fedders To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Nats attendees redux Message-ID: I will be attending the Nats peter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:19:40 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Roseplane Spad XI Message-ID: How about grafting on a Revell Spad XIII nose, it's pretty much the same size. I used a Revell radiator on my home-molded fuselage, and it fitted exactly. The fuselage was based on the Wylam drawings. With some sanding it would probably fit. Without having seen the Roseplane kit, I feel it sounds like a better option, despite the upper wing, it that badly wrong? /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U [mailto:BITTNERM@stratcom.mil] > Sent: den 6 juni 2001 17:08 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Roseplane Spad XI > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com [mailto:John_Impenna@hyperion.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:57 AM > > > Can you folks tell me how good this kit is?? I seem to > > remember some info > > about it not too long ago, but was not successful when searching the > > archives....TIA for any help! > > It's a nice kit, but not without its flaws. The two biggest > flaws are the > upper wing is too short in span, and the fuselage is too > short as well, > forward of the pilot's cockpit. The only other alternative > is the Planet > resin, and it's lacking the "riblets" on the wings as well as > the "slope" of > the turtldeck. In addition, since it's a resin (and not done > by one of the > best resin makers) it's a bit thick in places. So, pick what > you want to > correct and/or the medium you want to work in. The Planet is > definitely > buildable - Internet Modeler had Dennis' build of it, and he > did a great > job, especially since he didn't correct any of the mistakes. > > I'm lobbying Rosemont to correct their kit, but feel that I > should come up > with the replacement parts, especially the nose. I'm still pondering > it...but have no time to do so. First I need to finish some > in progress > kits... > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:15:43 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Roseplane Spad XI Message-ID: <00f301c0eea3$f0265da0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Matt wrote: > I'm lobbying Rosemont to correct their kit, but feel that I should come up > with the replacement parts, especially the nose. I'm still pondering > it...but have no time to do so. First I need to finish some in progress > kits... excuses... excuses.... D. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:22:02 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: warbird repros was RE: Another Warbird Down In France Message-ID: <001301c0eea4$d1fdeae0$fe78a8c0@FRITZweb> > > A friend of mine delivered the paints for that plane. He is preparing large > > scale production now... > > Think how much cheaper he could build a whole squadron of Biffs or Fees or > LVGs.......Life isn't always fair ;-) > sp Yeah! Great idea... But the paint story is fully true. Juergen does really run this business. He does produce special paints in small units for nearly any purpose. He managed to get the original recipes of RLM colours and re-produces them exactly. BTW, they are NOT allowed to be used on real flying a/c, they don't match the regulations! Of course he offers them also to match it, but then only the hue is exact, not the recipes. He would be very interested to reproduce WWI paints also, but - no recipes! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:38:47 -0700 From: Myles Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: partial OT question for Aussie compadres Message-ID: <4.1.20010606092404.009fd860@mail> Hello list, I have a question for my compadres in Australia: >From your experience, how long does surface mail take to reach the US? I posted a "want to buy" notice for some kits on one of the aircraft modeling web sites, and was contacted by someone in Victoria who offered to sell two kits. He had some "Good Guy" notices on the website and seemed to be legitimate. However, it is now going on six weeks since he acknowledged receipt of my payment and the kits haven't arrived. He has also failed to answer a couple of e-mail queries over the past week. So, you may understand that I'm getting a bit apprehensive .... Any info from my friends down south would be appreciated. (also please remember I'm on digest mode so it may be awhile before I see any responses) OT connection: the deal involved two OOP Eduard WWI kits, the Fokker D VI and Hannover CL.III. It's going to be pretty depressing if I got scammed, both for the lost funds and also because I was really looking forward to that Hannover....... Many thanks, Myles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:37:49 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Seaplanes Help! Message-ID: <005301c0eea7$0621c740$fe78a8c0@FRITZweb> > > > 3 - Does anybody know a source for out-of-print > > Austrian books? Any specialist bookshop there or in > > Germany? > > Volker? Hans? > D. I don't know any URL of a german used book shop. I usually go to the next used book shop and ask. If it not available, you can place an advertisment on a nation-wide network of used-book-sellers. In 75% it works. F.e. I managed to get Schupita's "Die k.u.k Seeflieger' a few weeks ago in Berlin. What's the exact title you are looking for? I can place an advert and wait for offers. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:50:49 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: partial OT question for Aussie compadres Message-ID: Myles: NKR Models (Earl Martell) is in Victoria, Australia (Ballarat). Delivery takes about a week (I live in Maryland, USA). he sends it Airmail, which is not too much more than "Economy"; e.g. on a 1kg package it's AU$20.50 versus AU$16.00. Given the favourable US$ exchange rate, this is not a big difference. Who knows how long it takes by "surface", which I guess is the same as "economy". Michael >From: Myles Miller >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: partial OT question for Aussie compadres >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:34:31 -0400 (EDT) > >Hello list, > >I have a question for my compadres in Australia: > > >From your experience, how long does surface mail take to reach the US? > >I posted a "want to buy" notice for some kits on one of the aircraft >modeling web sites, and was contacted by someone in Victoria who offered to >sell two kits. He had some "Good Guy" notices on the website and seemed to >be legitimate. However, it is now going on six weeks since he acknowledged >receipt of my payment and the kits haven't arrived. He has also failed to >answer a couple of e-mail queries over the past week. > >So, you may understand that I'm getting a bit apprehensive .... > >Any info from my friends down south would be appreciated. >(also please remember I'm on digest mode so it may be awhile before I see >any responses) > >OT connection: the deal involved two OOP Eduard WWI kits, the Fokker D VI >and Hannover CL.III. It's going to be pretty depressing if I got scammed, >both for the lost funds and also because I was really looking forward to >that Hannover....... > >Many thanks, >Myles > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3419 **********************