WWI Digest 3411 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Mk I to Mk IV Tank Colors by Andreikor@aol.com 2) Pfalz photos of construction by "TOM PLESHA" 3) Re: Pfalz questions by KarrArt@aol.com 4) Gotha Markings by "Brent Theobald" 5) Re: Gotha Markings by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats by Steve Cox 7) Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats by "TOM PLESHA" 8) Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats by "Tom Solinski" 9) Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats by "Tom Solinski" 10) Re: NATS by "DAVID BURKE" 11) New update by "Matt Bittner" 12) Re: British Mk I to Mk IV colours by GRBroman@aol.com 13) War Birds by "Robert Fabris" 14) Military Aircraft/Model Preview for sale by "Robert Fabris" 15) Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats by john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) 16) Re: British Mk I to Mk IV colours by "Hans Trauner" 17) Re: A bit ot but amazingly cool by David Fleming 18) FMP British Markings Book by David Fleming 19) Imre's Fokker Triplane Book by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 20) RE: Imre's Fokker Triplane Book by Volker Haeusler 21) Brumowski's Distribution by "Michael Kendix" 22) Re: A bit ot but amazingly cool by "Hans Trauner" 23) RE: Imre's Fokker Triplane Book by "Gaston Graf" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:50:55 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Mk I to Mk IV Tank Colors Message-ID: <25.162c393f.284a817f@aol.com> Hi Hans, IMHO, 'khaki' or dark green would be the most likely color for a British tank in service. The book "The German A7V Tank" also contains info on captured tanks; they clearly state that captured tanks were often camouflaged over the basic feldgrau, so I would assume the Germans did sometimes repaint them. Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:26:43 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Pfalz photos of construction Message-ID: <000b01c0eb91$93ede2c0$84474c0c@tom> Hi Dale- Thanks for the photos, there were a couple I don't have nor seen before. Thanks again Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:14:40 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Pfalz questions Message-ID: <60.f2d8742.284a9520@aol.com> In a message dated 6/2/01 10:34:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, vossie@mindspring.com writes: << Just a note from a former woodworker- SOME finish, be it silbergrau or clear varnish or something else entirely, would be very likely on the interior surface. Many people don't understand how much wood moves according to the moisture content of the air, and finishing one side of a wood strip while leaving the other side unfinished would be a very bad idea. The result would be a significant buildup of stresses, as the unfinished side would want to shrink or grow much faster than the other. A perfect example of how significant this is, and how quickly it happens, can be demonstrated with a jointer and planer. Take a piece of rough lumber, and use the jointer to mill the face flat. Take it to the planer, and use that to mill the other face flat. Now just take that piece of lumber and lay it flat on the jointer bed over night. In the morning, it will be cupped upwards (the amount differing depending on the species of wood) as the upper face, in contact with the air, released moisture and shrank much faster than the face that was against the jointer table. >> In my old modeling days when I built wings from balsa planks, I induced undercamber by wetting only one side, and while still damp, load on laquer or dope- this locked in the warp. I still do this sometimes. My scratched 0/400's wings were based on warped planks. With a couple of coats on one side, THEN I can start finishing both sides- then it becomes a case of whatever I do to one side, I do to the other. With a little practice, it's possible to control the amount of warping. BTW, the best piece I've read on Pfalz planking practices was in WW I Aero No 158 a couple of years ago- those tapes were actually paper. Her's the layers, from inside out: 3cm wide paper tape plywood planks casein glue layer plywood planks overall coarse linen outer covering This is for the D.XII, but I'd think it was applicable to D.III as well. Pfalz got this technique from Roland, and several Roland photos show painted guts- I'd go with some sort of gray for the interior. I built the Eduard D.III a few years ago and painted wood color- if I build another one, I'd go with some type of gray. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 19:31:35 -0000 From: "Brent Theobald" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Gotha Markings Message-ID: Howdy! I was just looking thru the Gotha Data File. Anyone care to hazard a guess about the colors of the fuselage chevrons of the Gotha G.IV in picture number 46 on page 21? Are there any other known photos or descriptions of this aircraft? I'm leaning towards white chevrons on a green fuselage. Have a good one! Brent _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 13:42:19 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gotha Markings Message-ID: <200106021940.f52Jenq03295@mail.rapidnet.net> Hey, cool .. I never noticed that one before. .. guess I'll have to profile it sometime. Green is a good a guess as any .. especially as others were in that colour Bob ---------- >From: "Brent Theobald" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Gotha Markings >Date: Sat, Jun 2, 2001, 12:37 pm > > Howdy! > > I was just looking thru the Gotha Data File. Anyone care to hazard a guess > about the colors of the fuselage chevrons of the Gotha G.IV in picture > number 46 on page 21? Are there any other known photos or descriptions of > this aircraft? > > I'm leaning towards white chevrons on a green fuselage. > > Have a good one! > > Brent > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 00:46:28 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats Message-ID: I clicked on the download url but I don't get a pdf file downloaded, or even a view on the screen. Is there a secret handshake needed?? Regards Steve nb =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:38:32 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Canvas Hanger and the Nats > >> I just talked to Barry at Rosemont, and he's going to be at the Nats this >> year!!!!! While he'll be at the Combat Models tables, he'll still bring a >> bunch of his "stuff" to sell. >> >> This just may be the best Nats ever. :-) >> >> Okay, let's have a hand count. Who plans on going to the Nats? As long as >> things here don't change, I should be there... I know Hustad will be there, >> so we'll count him even though he's currently not on the list. > Matt, > I will be there as well. I plan on getting in around Noon on Wed. > and leaving on Sunday morning. > > A short time ago, there was some conversation about the canvas > hangers. The one in the background of the shots of my Gotha and Dr.1 > is a card model .pdf kit. > > I spoke with Chip at Fiddlers Green about the hanger and it was > currently not available. I also talked to him about some of the Bell > Tents and other WWI buildings. Being in .pdf format, they can be > scaled to what ever scale you might need. > > I just got the following message from Chip. If we show him that > there is some interest in these type of kits, we will be able to get > some rather inexpensive background and or support type aerodrome > accessories. > > He has agree to put the hanger free for us for a short period of > time, to get a feel for their acceptability. They are easy to put > together and would give us what we need to dress up some of the > dioramas and or bases we all want to use. > > > "I finally got a chance to get the Tent Aerodrome Hanger together we > talked about earlier... > > What I'd like to do is this..... > Let your pals in the WWI group know that FG has knuckled under to > your immense and relentless pressure and uploaded this new improved > Hanger to the site... THEY can download load it for FREE this entire > next week starting now.. > > The actual PDF is at: http://www.wsam.net/DOWNLOADs/TENT-HGR.PDF > and the neat little page we made up with good photos of these curosities is > at: > http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWI/tent-hgr/tent-hgr.htm > > We're charging $2.00 for it otherwise. By watching the stats, I'll > be able to see how many of your pals are REALLY interested in this > stuff.. :-) > > Thanks for the nudge John. > > chip > FG" > > I printed mine out by printing one copy and then a copy printed in > reverse. I glued the two parts together back to back, which gave me > more strength and also the canvas color on the inside as well. > John > > PS, if you download the hanger, send Chip a thank you note, along > with a suggestion for one or two support buildings you might have. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:06:18 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats Message-ID: <000d01c0ebc1$04356ec0$c25d570c@tom> Ditto! Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cox" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:52 PM Subject: Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats > I clicked on the download url but I don't get a pdf file downloaded, or > even a view on the screen. Is there a secret handshake needed?? > > Regards > Steve > > nb > =========================================== > steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk > http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html > If I didn't spend so much time on line > << I'd get some models finished > ================ > > > From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) > > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:38:32 -0400 (EDT) > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Canvas Hanger and the Nats > > > >> I just talked to Barry at Rosemont, and he's going to be at the Nats this > >> year!!!!! While he'll be at the Combat Models tables, he'll still bring a > >> bunch of his "stuff" to sell. > >> > >> This just may be the best Nats ever. :-) > >> > >> Okay, let's have a hand count. Who plans on going to the Nats? As long as > >> things here don't change, I should be there... I know Hustad will be there, > >> so we'll count him even though he's currently not on the list. > > Matt, > > I will be there as well. I plan on getting in around Noon on Wed. > > and leaving on Sunday morning. > > > > A short time ago, there was some conversation about the canvas > > hangers. The one in the background of the shots of my Gotha and Dr.1 > > is a card model .pdf kit. > > > > I spoke with Chip at Fiddlers Green about the hanger and it was > > currently not available. I also talked to him about some of the Bell > > Tents and other WWI buildings. Being in .pdf format, they can be > > scaled to what ever scale you might need. > > > > I just got the following message from Chip. If we show him that > > there is some interest in these type of kits, we will be able to get > > some rather inexpensive background and or support type aerodrome > > accessories. > > > > He has agree to put the hanger free for us for a short period of > > time, to get a feel for their acceptability. They are easy to put > > together and would give us what we need to dress up some of the > > dioramas and or bases we all want to use. > > > > > > "I finally got a chance to get the Tent Aerodrome Hanger together we > > talked about earlier... > > > > What I'd like to do is this..... > > Let your pals in the WWI group know that FG has knuckled under to > > your immense and relentless pressure and uploaded this new improved > > Hanger to the site... THEY can download load it for FREE this entire > > next week starting now.. > > > > The actual PDF is at: http://www.wsam.net/DOWNLOADs/TENT-HGR.PDF > > and the neat little page we made up with good photos of these curosities is > > at: > > http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWI/tent-hgr/tent-hgr.htm > > > > We're charging $2.00 for it otherwise. By watching the stats, I'll > > be able to see how many of your pals are REALLY interested in this > > stuff.. :-) > > > > Thanks for the nudge John. > > > > chip > > FG" > > > > I printed mine out by printing one copy and then a copy printed in > > reverse. I glued the two parts together back to back, which gave me > > more strength and also the canvas color on the inside as well. > > John > > > > PS, if you download the hanger, send Chip a thank you note, along > > with a suggestion for one or two support buildings you might have. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:11:55 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats Message-ID: <001e01c0ebc1$cc71cf00$a6a20d41@okcnc1.ok.home.com> For those not familiar with FG's models he has a collection he calls the World' Smallest Air Museum, WSAM in a scale of 1/60. You will note that on page one the hanger is drawn in WSAM=100% Soooo it's too large as printed for 1/72 and too small as printed for 1/48. Windsock Jan/Feb '95 list the common dimensions for these as 24 X 20 meters for those who must have the correct size. For the mathematically challenged, at the color printer , copy at 0.833333 to get a 1/72 hanger, and copy at 1.25 to get to 1/48. HTH Thanks to the KIND folks at FG for the treat! Tom S 0----- Original Message ----- From: John Huggins To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: Canvas Hanger and the Nats > >I just talked to Barry at Rosemont, and he's going to be at the Nats this > >year!!!!! While he'll be at the Combat Models tables, he'll still bring a > >bunch of his "stuff" to sell. > > > >This just may be the best Nats ever. :-) > > > >Okay, let's have a hand count. Who plans on going to the Nats? As long as > >things here don't change, I should be there... I know Hustad will be there, > >so we'll count him even though he's currently not on the list. > Matt, > I will be there as well. I plan on getting in around Noon on Wed. > and leaving on Sunday morning. > > A short time ago, there was some conversation about the canvas > hangers. The one in the background of the shots of my Gotha and Dr.1 > is a card model .pdf kit. > > I spoke with Chip at Fiddlers Green about the hanger and it was > currently not available. I also talked to him about some of the Bell > Tents and other WWI buildings. Being in .pdf format, they can be > scaled to what ever scale you might need. > > I just got the following message from Chip. If we show him that > there is some interest in these type of kits, we will be able to get > some rather inexpensive background and or support type aerodrome > accessories. > > He has agree to put the hanger free for us for a short period of > time, to get a feel for their acceptability. They are easy to put > together and would give us what we need to dress up some of the > dioramas and or bases we all want to use. > > > "I finally got a chance to get the Tent Aerodrome Hanger together we > talked about earlier... > > What I'd like to do is this..... > Let your pals in the WWI group know that FG has knuckled under to > your immense and relentless pressure and uploaded this new improved > Hanger to the site... THEY can download load it for FREE this entire > next week starting now.. > > The actual PDF is at: http://www.wsam.net/DOWNLOADs/TENT-HGR.PDF > and the neat little page we made up with good photos of these curosities is at: > http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWI/tent-hgr/tent-hgr.htm > > We're charging $2.00 for it otherwise. By watching the stats, I'll > be able to see how many of your pals are REALLY interested in this > stuff.. :-) > > Thanks for the nudge John. > > chip > FG" > > I printed mine out by printing one copy and then a copy printed in > reverse. I glued the two parts together back to back, which gave me > more strength and also the canvas color on the inside as well. > John > > PS, if you download the hanger, send Chip a thank you note, along > with a suggestion for one or two support buildings you might have. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:12:37 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats Message-ID: <002501c0ebc1$e5c9d880$a6a20d41@okcnc1.ok.home.com> Nope, worked for me Tom S ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Cox To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats > I clicked on the download url but I don't get a pdf file downloaded, or > even a view on the screen. Is there a secret handshake needed?? > > Regards > Steve > > nb > =========================================== > steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk > http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html > If I didn't spend so much time on line > << I'd get some models finished > ================ > > > From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) > > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:38:32 -0400 (EDT) > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Canvas Hanger and the Nats > > > >> I just talked to Barry at Rosemont, and he's going to be at the Nats this > >> year!!!!! While he'll be at the Combat Models tables, he'll still bring a > >> bunch of his "stuff" to sell. > >> > >> This just may be the best Nats ever. :-) > >> > >> Okay, let's have a hand count. Who plans on going to the Nats? As long as > >> things here don't change, I should be there... I know Hustad will be there, > >> so we'll count him even though he's currently not on the list. > > Matt, > > I will be there as well. I plan on getting in around Noon on Wed. > > and leaving on Sunday morning. > > > > A short time ago, there was some conversation about the canvas > > hangers. The one in the background of the shots of my Gotha and Dr.1 > > is a card model .pdf kit. > > > > I spoke with Chip at Fiddlers Green about the hanger and it was > > currently not available. I also talked to him about some of the Bell > > Tents and other WWI buildings. Being in .pdf format, they can be > > scaled to what ever scale you might need. > > > > I just got the following message from Chip. If we show him that > > there is some interest in these type of kits, we will be able to get > > some rather inexpensive background and or support type aerodrome > > accessories. > > > > He has agree to put the hanger free for us for a short period of > > time, to get a feel for their acceptability. They are easy to put > > together and would give us what we need to dress up some of the > > dioramas and or bases we all want to use. > > > > > > "I finally got a chance to get the Tent Aerodrome Hanger together we > > talked about earlier... > > > > What I'd like to do is this..... > > Let your pals in the WWI group know that FG has knuckled under to > > your immense and relentless pressure and uploaded this new improved > > Hanger to the site... THEY can download load it for FREE this entire > > next week starting now.. > > > > The actual PDF is at: http://www.wsam.net/DOWNLOADs/TENT-HGR.PDF > > and the neat little page we made up with good photos of these curosities is > > at: > > http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWI/tent-hgr/tent-hgr.htm > > > > We're charging $2.00 for it otherwise. By watching the stats, I'll > > be able to see how many of your pals are REALLY interested in this > > stuff.. :-) > > > > Thanks for the nudge John. > > > > chip > > FG" > > > > I printed mine out by printing one copy and then a copy printed in > > reverse. I glued the two parts together back to back, which gave me > > more strength and also the canvas color on the inside as well. > > John > > > > PS, if you download the hanger, send Chip a thank you note, along > > with a suggestion for one or two support buildings you might have. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:50:48 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: NATS Message-ID: <007301c0ebc7$65094720$c4a31e3f@oemcomputer> 'Tis a distinct possibility. DB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 20:51:48 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: New update Message-ID: <200106030149.SAA29013@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Just added images of Karen's well done "itty bitty things", the two "Kitten's". Excellent job! Matt Bittner WW1 Site Assistant Editor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:48:26 EDT From: GRBroman@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: British Mk I to Mk IV colours Message-ID: Ausgezeichnet Hans, Panzer sind immer besten. My personal thoughts on armor colors, based on research on my own, and that of others far smarter than I, lean toward the following. Mark I's likely started out in an Admiralty Grey color. I use Aeromaster Gunship Grey. That's not from the result of any color analysis or anything, just that it seems like a good match for British W.W.I ship colors, which likely produced the stocks of paints for the early landslips. During the early battles in France they carried some rather garish (wie sagt man das auf Duetsch?) camo schemes. The Mark V's carried a Khaki Drab scheme, most likely, although the shade is really more brown than what we (or I) would consider khaki. A good match is Modelmaster Field Drab. I also have done captured Mark IV's in German markings using the Emhar decals, which look good. I used Polly S Feldgrau. Matt and I once filled an entire small scale armor category at a Des Moines show with our Mark IV's and Mark I's. I still have four more in my series to build, one will be a dirigible hauler, it should look interesting when done. Hoe this helps, Glen In a message dated 6/2/2001 6:46:59 AM EST, hans.trauner@nefkom.net writes: > Ladies and gentlemen, > my plastic dealer offered a Airfix Mk I for half the money and I could not > resist. After I had taken two of them, I also put up the Emhars Mk IV male > and female. > > Now I am worried concerning the colours. I found highly different colour > infos in the instructions and in the book 'Armoured Fighting Vehicles of the > World', Volume One. The infos differs from battle ship grey over green to > khaki plus various camo schemes. > > I am looking at the photos in the book and for my feelings the MkI is too > light for 'green' as shown in the colour profiles. But there is a propaganda > photo on page 40, showing Tommies in fornt of a Mk.V. And the steel hellmets > do have exact the same tonal value. So, is khaki the right answer? > > One of the three I would like to built in german markings. Are there any > infos that the Germans repainted them in Feldgrau? Maybe some were, some > not, I presume. > > Thanks for any help! > > Hans > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:13:43 -0700 From: "Robert Fabris" To: Subject: War Birds Message-ID: <001e01c0ebdc$042f11e0$e137480c@default> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0EBA0.8577F5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am selling this book, purportedly experiences of an American aviator = flying for the British in the Great War. Subtitled "Diary of an Unknown = Aviator". Copyright 1926 by Liberty Weekly, Inc., this is the 1938 Sun = Dial Press issue. Illustrated by Clayton Knight's pencil sketches, some = full page. Book has been reprinted a number of times, and about 30 years ago, it = was revealed that Elliott White Springs was the author. 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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0EBA1.53B05160-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 04:43:28 -0600 From: john@huggins-leahey.com (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Canvas Hanger and the Nats Message-ID: >For those not familiar with FG's models he has a collection he calls the >World' Smallest Air Museum, WSAM in a scale of 1/60. You will note that on >page one the hanger is drawn in WSAM=100% Soooo it's too large as printed >for 1/72 and too small as printed for 1/48. Windsock Jan/Feb '95 list the >common dimensions for these as 24 X 20 meters for those who must have the >correct size. >For the mathematically challenged, at the color printer , copy at 0.833333 >to get a 1/72 hanger, and copy at 1.25 to get to 1/48. >HTH > >Thanks to the KIND folks at FG for the treat! Tom, Thanks for the print percentages. John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 11:59:34 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: British Mk I to Mk IV colours Message-ID: <003401c0ec13$e4754bc0$9cab72d4@FRITZweb> Glen and all others, thanks for the infos! I think I will do it this way: Mk IV female in german markings/ khaki Mk IV male in british markings / khaki MkI in camouflage. I am considering three schemes I have found out since yesterday: The 'Bovington' scheme with large batches in grey, green, brown, seperated with black outline The 'Grey + ' scheme, which is 75%dark grey with smaller batches in red brown, green, ochre plus black separation lines The 'chimpanzee' scheme. These colours are unknown, but what I have is a british Vickers gun from 1916 in the Bayerisches Armeemuseum in Ingolstadt. This is camouflaged in the very style, but the colours are ochre, tan/brown, green and PALE blue with some black lines. The names of the schemes are mine and simply based on the infos I have got through list members plus an altavista search with " Mark I tank" which brought really good photos, especially the 'Chimpanzee valley' pic. Hans ( "I love the list and the net") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 18:01:43 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: A bit ot but amazingly cool Message-ID: <3B191BF6.F24A0F5D@dial.pipex.com> Wow! thanks ! Now if only German triplane photographers had been so acommadating :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 12:36:35 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: FMP British Markings Book Message-ID: <3B1A2143.B246756F@dial.pipex.com> What price is this ellingfor in the US ? I've just seen it advertised in the UK for £55, and wondered what the dollar price is ? David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:18:19 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Imre's Fokker Triplane Book Message-ID: <003f01c0ec27$47076300$e537183f@cyrixp166> Could someone give a recommendation on this one? Content, going price etc, Thanks, John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 04:30:30 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Imre's Fokker Triplane Book Message-ID: John said: "Subject: Imre's Fokker Triplane Book Could someone give a recommendation on this one? Content, going price etc, Thanks, John Cyg." CONTENT: (Nearly) everything you ever wanted to know about the Dr I, great photos (162 of them) and a Baubeschreibung copy (very reliable drawing), plus lots of stories on the development and use of the Dr I, sometimes maybe going to far (Voss cowling, LvR´s upper wing yellow). But definitely the best single source for the Dr I. Going price: The book originally sold at Brit. pound 16,99 (and I bought it at that price). It did not sell well, I guess, as it was later available "nearly everwhere" (eg, Midland counties publications, Aviation Bookshop, some of the bargain bookshops in London´s Charing Cross Road) for less than 10 pounds. Today it´s out of print?, so maybe quite near the original price again... But whatever: If you´re interested in Dr I´s, you can not do it without this book (IMHO) Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 13:01:04 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Brumowski's Distribution Message-ID: Brumowski's Distribution refers to a surface covered with mustard yellow coloured irregular sworls and was used on te Hansa Brandenburg D.I serial 28.69. The Toko kit has a decal but I am using Americal/Gryphon (AG). The AG decal is fine; it has the mustard yellow sworls on a clear decal, so you must first paint the "background". The Toko decals show a green background. Any idea what sort of green - di d Mister Kit do a decent green for that recently? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:49:49 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: A bit ot but amazingly cool Message-ID: <000701c0ec34$0ec1a480$c9a272d4@FRITZweb> No problem, David! Take one of those cowling pics, plus photoshop ( or similiar), make a blue one, a red one and a yellow (!!!) one. Make overlaying prints´... et voila! Last enigma reveiled... it's...coloured! Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fleming" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 1:46 PM Subject: Re: A bit ot but amazingly cool > Wow! thanks ! Now if only German triplane photographers had been so acommadating > :-) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:58:23 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: RE: Imre's Fokker Triplane Book Message-ID: Volker, I am off course highly interested into this book. What is its exact title and ISBN number please? Maybe I can order it through Amazon.uk. I hope it is a more reliable source than the book of Jörg Armin Kranzhoff is, which contains to many errors. best regards Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > > John said: > "Subject: Imre's Fokker Triplane Book > Could someone give a recommendation on this one? Content, going price etc, > Thanks, > John Cyg." > > CONTENT: (Nearly) everything you ever wanted to know about the Dr I, great > photos (162 of them) and a Baubeschreibung copy (very reliable drawing), > plus lots of stories on the development and use of the Dr I, > sometimes maybe > going to far (Voss cowling, LvR´s upper wing yellow). But definitely the > best single source for the Dr I. > > Going price: The book originally sold at Brit. pound 16,99 (and I > bought it > at that price). It did not sell well, I guess, as it was later available > "nearly everwhere" (eg, Midland counties publications, Aviation Bookshop, > some of the bargain bookshops in London´s Charing Cross Road) for > less than > 10 pounds. Today it´s out of print?, so maybe quite near the > original price > again... > > But whatever: If you´re interested in Dr I´s, you can not do it > without this > book (IMHO) > > Volker > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3411 **********************