WWI Digest 3351 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Caudron Model Questions by "dfernet0" 2) RE: Henri Farre (was Albert Ball's A134) by "dfernet0" 3) RE: french site by Crawford Neil 4) RE: french site by "dfernet0" 5) RE: french site by Crawford Neil 6) RE: french site by "dfernet0" 7) RE: DH4 was RE: When is the Golden Age of OT modeling? by Crawford Neil 8) Interesting 3 AFC/RAAF site by David Fleming 9) Re: french site by Jan Vihonen 10) cockpit floor sizing by "Michael Kendix" 11) L'age d'or l'hyrdavions by Crawford Neil 12) Re: cockpit floor sizing by Shon Howell 13) RE: cockpit floor sizing by Crawford Neil 14) RE: cockpit floor sizing by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" 15) Re: Mike Grant Decals by "Lee J. Mensinger" 16) RE: cockpit floor sizing by "dfernet0" 17) Re: Mike Grant Decals by RadspadMike@netscape.net 18) RE: Mike Grant Decals by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" 19) Re: cockpit floor sizing by Shon Howell 20) heat/smash turtledeck effect by "Bucky" 21) Hotchkiss 37mm cannon by Dennis Ugulano 22) RE: heat/smash turtledeck effect by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" 23) RE: Hotchkiss 37mm cannon by Crawford Neil 24) RE: heat/smash turtledeck effect by Crawford Neil 25) RE: cockpit floor sizing by "Ray Boorman" 26) Copper State Gotha by "Lance Krieg" 27) Re: Mike Grant Decals by "tsollers" 28) RE: heat/smash turtledeck effect by "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" 29) Re: Hobby Shops by "Muth and Zulick" 30) Re: OTF seminar by "Muth and Zulick" 31) Neil's DVII by Andreikor@aol.com 32) Re: cockpit floor sizing by MAnde72343@aol.com 33) Re: Weekend Viewing (Belgian N11 Photos) by "Muth and Zulick" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:22:43 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Caudron Model Questions Message-ID: <015801c0d7b1$339bb6c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks for the explanations, Andrei! And more than ever, I now appreciate the amount of accuracy you display when building a model! Awesome! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:23:47 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Henri Farre (was Albert Ball's A134) Message-ID: <017201c0d7b1$5e3cccc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mike wrote: > The Farre book just arrived - it has lots of nifty paintings but they > are all monotone...I guess you get what you pay for. Rats! D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:25:48 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: french site Message-ID: I'm not sure, but I think this is the organisation that published the book about French Naval Aviation 1914-18 that some of us are lucky enough to have:-) /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 8 maj 2001 13:15 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: french site > > > Check this one: > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ardhan/aeronefs/avions.htm > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:34:20 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: french site Message-ID: <021a01c0d7b2$d2a122e0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Yes I think it is... I wish they have more pictures of ancient aeroplanes on the site. The Voisin canard is very intriguing... D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: RE: french site > I'm not sure, but I think this is the organisation that > published the book about French Naval Aviation 1914-18 > that some of us are lucky enough to have:-) > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:33:21 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: french site Message-ID: Yes, my god I wonder how that flew?!! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 8 maj 2001 13:34 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: french site > > > Yes I think it is... I wish they have more pictures of > ancient aeroplanes on > the site. The Voisin canard is very intriguing... > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Crawford Neil > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:29 AM > Subject: RE: french site > > > > I'm not sure, but I think this is the organisation that > > published the book about French Naval Aviation 1914-18 > > that some of us are lucky enough to have:-) > > /Neil > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:41:42 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: french site Message-ID: <022201c0d7b3$da6761a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> By sheer luck, I guess! :-) D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:38 AM Subject: RE: french site > Yes, my god I wonder how that flew?!! > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:54:04 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: DH4 was RE: When is the Golden Age of OT modeling? Message-ID: I'm not sure if it was the same airfoil as the DH2, but similar. I agree powerful engine was probably the most important thing, also light constrction meant they could have a less draggy wing- profile/ angle of attack, and still get a low landing speed. The old concept "add lightness" seems to have applied already in 1916. The braced truss construction really was superior in those days, although looking at some of those awful looking british contraptions, it makes you wonder! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 7 maj 2001 18:21 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: DH4 was RE: When is the Golden Age of OT modeling? > > > Neil wrote: > >What I can't understand is why they were > > so fast, there is so much drag. > > /Neil > > Perhaps because they had a powerful engine and a sound > overall design, much > more efficient than the pushers. Was the airfoil the same as > in other DH > designs? These are factors that would have been beneficial. > D. > Snowmen fall from Heaven in kit form. No glue required. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:52:55 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Interesting 3 AFC/RAAF site Message-ID: <3AF7D006.B89A14DE@dial.pipex.com> http://www.3squadron.org.au/ Some interesting OT content, including a rather gruesome one of MvR taken 'post mortem' - the image pages are quite 'content intensive' & take a bit to load. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 15:25:52 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: french site Message-ID: <3AF7E5D0.5251F954@helsinki.fi> And to which direction? Towards the ship or away from it? Jan > Yes, my god I wonder how that flew?!! > /Neil > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > > Sent: den 8 maj 2001 13:34 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: french site > > > > > > Yes I think it is... I wish they have more pictures of > > ancient aeroplanes on > > the site. The Voisin canard is very intriguing... > > D. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Crawford Neil > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:29 AM > > Subject: RE: french site > > > > > > > I'm not sure, but I think this is the organisation that > > > published the book about French Naval Aviation 1914-18 > > > that some of us are lucky enough to have:-) > > > /Neil > > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 12:37:34 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: cockpit floor sizing Message-ID: Folks: I am attempting to make a cockpit floor for my RE5 vac. I've done this before by sort of gusessing and then shaving/sanding down the piece of plastic to be used. Anyone have any techniques that would make this slightly less hit and miss. Please be detailed in your explanations. Thanks, Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:42:11 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: L'age d'or l'hyrdavions Message-ID: I have a few things I keep meaning to tell the list, but you lot always keep me so busy just reading and commenting everything that I never get around to it. I got a lovely book from France a couple of weeks ago, called L'age d'or l'hyrdavions volume 2 part 1. This seems to be the second book in a series about floatplanes and flying boats. It's a soft covered book about 1/4 inch thick in lying down A4 format. It covers the pre-war meetings at Monaco and places like that, for instance around Britain(!). Most aircraft are featured with a watercolour painting that took both my and my aviation artistic friends breath away, and a page of text with photos. Aicraft featured are amongst others. Astra, Caudron, Morane, REP, Farman, the round britain Sopwith, and loveliest of them all the Albatross HE. I was hoping for Deperdussins and Nieuports but they are probably in the next one, I still thought it was great. On the cover was a Spad S26 which made my day, but has nothing to do with the contents, I guess they got a painting over from the (next) Schneider contest book , and didn't want to waste it. More details if anyone is interested. Price was 80fr. I bought it from "Kits discount" http://perso.wanadoo.fr/kits.discount/html/livres.htm (or something similar) , they accept credit cards, and I received the book in just over a week. This was my first attempt with them, and it certainly won't be my last. /Neil I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 07:47:08 -0700 From: Shon Howell To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: cockpit floor sizing Message-ID: <3AF806EB.A3D3E39F@earthlink.net> I picked up a Contour Gauge at the hardware store for all the interior bulkhead & floor measures. Michael Kendix wrote: > > Folks: > > I am attempting to make a cockpit floor for my RE5 vac. I've done this > before by sort of gusessing and then shaving/sanding down the piece of > plastic to be used. Anyone have any techniques that would make this > slightly less hit and miss. Please be detailed in your explanations. > > Thanks, > > Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:48:07 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: cockpit floor sizing Message-ID: I do it the same way as you do, but I've heard a method for bulkheads intstr. panels that might work. Cut a slit in the fuselage both sides insert plasticard in the slit, right through the fuselage, glue, cut away the excess on the outside, then sand down the outside. It sounds brutal to me, but might be rather efficient. Don't call me if it doesn't work;-) /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Kendix [mailto:mkendix@hotmail.com] > Sent: den 8 maj 2001 14:42 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: cockpit floor sizing > > > Folks: > > I am attempting to make a cockpit floor for my RE5 vac. I've > done this > before by sort of gusessing and then shaving/sanding down the > piece of > plastic to be used. Anyone have any techniques that would make this > slightly less hit and miss. Please be detailed in your explanations. > > Thanks, > > Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 12:50:58 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: cockpit floor sizing Message-ID: <850CD1B940F1D31181590000929B19DA017017AE@mail3.stratcom.mil> > -----Original Message----- > From: Shon Howell [mailto:shonmania@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 7:50 AM > I picked up a Contour Gauge at the hardware store > for all the interior bulkhead & floor measures. Okay, that'll work for one side, but how do you get the other side to match the fuselage side exact? Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:02:10 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Mike Grant Decals Message-ID: <3AF7EE52.99B7BB81@x25.net> I believe ALPS Printers are being made under a different name, but , not all that sure. Lee M. LEONARDPeterL@aol.com wrote: > I just received a set of 1/48 Polish Albatros decals from Mike Grant of > http://www.cadvision.com/mikegrant/MikeGrantDecals/. He was kind enough to > custom print a set at reduced scale for me to fit a Ballila. These are ALPS > decals and until now it was my understanding that, as such, they would not be > up to the standards of conventional products. Well they are. Right up there > with the best. ALPS are not available in the UK (anybody?) and are I believe > out of production any way. Shame. > > cheers > > Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:13:39 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: cockpit floor sizing Message-ID: <02e401c0d7c0$b2f27260$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Check my Albatros build in the Albatros cookup D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Kendix To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: cockpit floor sizing > Folks: > > I am attempting to make a cockpit floor for my RE5 vac. I've done this > before by sort of gusessing and then shaving/sanding down the piece of > plastic to be used. Anyone have any techniques that would make this > slightly less hit and miss. Please be detailed in your explanations. > > Thanks, > > Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:11:52 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Mike Grant Decals Message-ID: <52CAB1CA.5C0898EC.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Thanks for the info, Peter. Once he resumes custom work, I hope to give him a lot of business. Best regards, Mike K. Peter L. wrote: > > I just received a set of 1/48 Polish Albatros decals from Mike Grant of > http://www.cadvision.com/mikegrant/MikeGrantDecals/. He was kind enough to > custom print a set at reduced scale for me to fit a Ballila. These are ALPS > decals and until now it was my understanding that, as such, they would not be > up to the standards of conventional products. Well they are. Right up there > with the best. ALPS are not available in the UK (anybody?) and are I believe > out of production any way. Shame. > > cheers > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:17:07 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Mike Grant Decals Message-ID: <850CD1B940F1D31181590000929B19DA017017FD@mail3.stratcom.mil> > -----Original Message----- > From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com [mailto:LEONARDPeterL@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:06 AM > These are ALPS > decals and until now it was my understanding that, as such, > they would not be > up to the standards of conventional products. Well they are. > Right up there > with the best. If printed with the right software, ALPS-generated decals are *better* than any other. There is no way a silk-screen process can get serial numbers as crisp and clear as ALPS-generated ones. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:25:09 -0700 From: Shon Howell To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: cockpit floor sizing Message-ID: <3AF80FD4.39E2E629@earthlink.net> 1) cut a strip of styrene about the size the bulkhead or floor will be. 2) Draw a centerline on the strip 3) Transfer contour to one side of centerline, then turn gauge over & draw the mirror image 3a) If you suspect an asymmetry to the parts, gauge both sides. 4) Trim excess, then clean up & fit Nothing to it. ^_^ "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shon Howell [mailto:shonmania@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 7:50 AM > > > I picked up a Contour Gauge at the hardware store > > for all the interior bulkhead & floor measures. > > Okay, that'll work for one side, but how do you get the other side to match > the fuselage side exact? > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:16:41 +0900 From: "Bucky" To: Subject: heat/smash turtledeck effect Message-ID: <005501c0d7c6$d9073ac0$454f07d3@compaqcomputer> I specially liked the stringered turtledeck behind the rear gunner's office. How did you did it? It'l just like that of the Halberstadt D.II and I'd like to know how you did it. If you plan to take new pictures please include one with this detail! (Diego F) >Diego, the turtledeck on the Fdh was done as a separate heat/smash laid on top of the box/sheet fuselage construction (as was, actually, the rest of the upper fuselage from that point up until the bombardier's station. I made the master by laying 1mm piano wire along the top of an appropriately sloped piece of basswood. It was an easy heat/smash. Only took one pass to get it, then careful cutting and sanding to get the fit right. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:11:18 -0400 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Hotchkiss 37mm cannon Message-ID: <200105081011_MC2-D023-E54@compuserve.com> Everyone, Can someone direct me to a photo or drawing of the Hotchkiss 37mm shell firing cannon? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 4/29/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:16:38 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: heat/smash turtledeck effect Message-ID: <850CD1B940F1D31181590000929B19DA017018E5@mail3.stratcom.mil> > -----Original Message----- > From: Bucky [mailto:bucky@tokai.or.jp] > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:09 AM >Diego, the turtledeck on the Fdh was done as a separate > heat/smash laid on > top of the box/sheet fuselage construction (as was, actually, > the rest of > the upper fuselage from that point up until the bombardier's station. That's a darn good idea. I'll have to remember that for when I get to the SPAD 12. Thanks, Bucky! Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:17:41 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Hotchkiss 37mm cannon Message-ID: Go to the Spad XII photo archive on the site. There's a side-view. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Ugulano [mailto:Uggies@compuserve.com] > Sent: den 8 maj 2001 16:16 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Hotchkiss 37mm cannon > > > Everyone, > > Can someone direct me to a photo or drawing of the > Hotchkiss 37mm > shell firing cannon? > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Dennis Ugulano > email: Uggies@compuserve.com > http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm > Page Revised 4/29/01 > "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:20:37 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: heat/smash turtledeck effect Message-ID: Do you think its necessary on the Spad 12 Matt? I was thinking of doing some very gentle sanding, and so try and save what little surface detail there is on the turtledeck. /Neil > That's a darn good idea. I'll have to remember that for when > I get to the > SPAD 12. Thanks, Bucky! > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:23:54 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: cockpit floor sizing Message-ID: That's the way I do it. If the fuselage is not a constant shape I'll also perform the measurement at the front middle and rear for the floor. That way I get a near perfect fit without too much effort. Contour Gauges in the hardware store cost about $10. They are a bit large but they do work. I did see a much finer contour gauge in a hobby store years ago but it was on the order of $30. At the time two models were screaming at me to buy them so I didn't buy it. Now I wish I had. I have never seen anything but the hardware store sort since. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Shon > Howell > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:28 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: cockpit floor sizing > > > > 1) cut a strip of styrene about the size the bulkhead or floor will be. > > 2) Draw a centerline on the strip > > 3) Transfer contour to one side of centerline, then turn gauge over & > draw the mirror image > > 3a) If you suspect an asymmetry to the parts, gauge both sides. > > 4) Trim excess, then clean up & fit > > Nothing to it. ^_^ > > "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Shon Howell [mailto:shonmania@earthlink.net] > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 7:50 AM > > > > > I picked up a Contour Gauge at the hardware store > > > for all the interior bulkhead & floor measures. > > > > Okay, that'll work for one side, but how do you get the other > side to match > > the fuselage side exact? > > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:29:36 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Copper State Gotha Message-ID: Well, my Gotha G.III arrived yesterday, and I spent a good part of the evening fondling the parts. There is little doubt that it is one of the most ambitious and complete kits I've ever seen. The resin parts are beautifully detailed and all the flying surfaces appropriately thin. I could find no flaws in the resin at all, and I wish, Eric, you would use it for many of the white metal parts where strength is not important... like the bombs, for instance. I'm anxious to see one of these built; Eric, did you assemble one to prove it can be done? It's a helluva model! Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:35:36 -0400 From: "tsollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Mike Grant Decals Message-ID: <200105081435.f48EZar29064@mail.bcpl.net> If anyone is seeking details on how custom decals are created on an ALPS printer see: http://www.hyperscale.com/reference01/aungstdecal/CustomDecals.htm Tom ---------- >From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: RE: Mike Grant Decals >Date: Tue, May 8, 2001, 9:21 AM > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com [mailto:LEONARDPeterL@aol.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:06 AM > >> These are ALPS >> decals and until now it was my understanding that, as such, >> they would not be >> up to the standards of conventional products. Well they are. >> Right up there >> with the best. > > If printed with the right software, ALPS-generated decals are *better* than > any other. There is no way a silk-screen process can get serial numbers as > crisp and clear as ALPS-generated ones. > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:37:57 -0000 From: "Bittner, Matthew E. (KTR)~U" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: heat/smash turtledeck effect Message-ID: <850CD1B940F1D31181590000929B19DA01701951@mail3.stratcom.mil> > -----Original Message----- > From: Crawford Neil [mailto:Neil.Crawford@volvo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:25 AM > Do you think its necessary on the Spad 12 Matt? I was thinking of > doing some very gentle sanding, and so try and save what little > surface detail there is on the turtledeck. Well, I can't honestly say until I start building it. I doubt it's as bad, but if the fit is as horrid on it as on the CM SPAD 13 I built then yet, it is necessary. However, if the fit isn't that bad, then maybe just a replacement plastic "rod" down the middle of the fuselage (where the joint would be) could be the only addition. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:48:18 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Hobby Shops Message-ID: <00f001c0d7cd$ec717560$0100005a@ptd.net> > Allan... > Do you pass by Rosemont on a regular basis? Let me know next time you do and > I'll drive out to meet you... you can hold Barry's arms and I'll ransack the > shelves :) > Has anybody given any thought to attending 'his' show in September? Or the > IPMS Nats in July? > Cheers, > Andrei I've been there fore the past few years. A nice show with a lot of vendors. Not a whole lot of on topic stuff, but what there is is really pretty good. Let me know if you &/or Allen are stopping by and I'll meet up with you guys. It is only a short 30 minutes from my house. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:02:49 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: OTF seminar Message-ID: <01de01c0d7cf$f30d2160$0100005a@ptd.net> WooooHoooo! I'll be there. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday,May 07,2001 1:48 PM Subject: OTF seminar > Greetings all, > > JIm Streckfuss just emailed me with some information to add to the OTF > website that I thought might be of some interest to those here who would > like to attend the upcoming seminar in September 14/15. > > ". . . . . We'll be at the San Diego Holiday Inn on the Bay. Current > speakers include: Pete Grosz, Mike O'Neal, Al Roesler, Alan Toelle, Charles > Woolley, Jack Herris, and Greg VanWyngarden. There will be at least one > more but we're still waiting to confirm that one. Cost will be $175. Hotel > arrangements should be made separately with the hotel at 619-232-3861. > Mention the league to get the special seminar rate of $135 per night (extra > persons in room $15, Bay view rooms guaranteed for an extra $20.) > > See ya there > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:06:26 EDT From: Andreikor@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Neil's DVII Message-ID: Neil, Have to agree... your DVII is a beaut! Belated congrats from me too! :) Cheers, Andrei ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:08:31 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: cockpit floor sizing Message-ID: <7b.14685e01.282965ef@aol.com> --part1_7b.14685e01.282965ef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Micro Mark, if they're still around made a fine wire contour gage with an easy locking feature. For difficult to measure bulkheads and floors, I use a cheap method. 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easy locking feature. For difficult to measure bulkheads and floors, I use a
cheap method. I use children's 'play doh', not clay, the doughy kids stuff,
generic stuff is about $1.50, and lasts for years, make up a fairly thick
'sheet' of it, stick it to one side and press the fuselage halves together.
carefully separate the halves, and you have a useable rough master for
measurement.
Merrill --part1_7b.14685e01.282965ef_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:12:21 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Weekend Viewing (Belgian N11 Photos) Message-ID: <028701c0d7d1$48b48260$0100005a@ptd.net> Cam Nice job, but I'm always a sucker for Belgian markings. Where did you see the red tailplane? Looks neat, but I don't remember seeing it on any photos, etc. Mike Muth ----- Original Message ----- From: "cameron rile" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday,May 05,2001 2:20 PM Subject: Weekend Viewing (Belgian N11 Photos) > In case anyone is interested I uploaded a couple of pics of the > Eastern Express N11 I finished recently. It is in the Warbirds > Belgian decals scheme. > > http://members.nbci.com/artattack/scale.htm > > I am definately getting better. This one adheres more to the IPMS > values in plastic building and construction. Even though I still > stopped building when I couldnt be buggered :) > > > > cam > AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ > > ________________________________________ > Get your email at > http://www.prontomail.com > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3351 **********************