WWI Digest 3337 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT by Shane Weier 2) RE: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT by ERIC HIGHT 3) RE: Jasta 19 Colours by "Nigel Rayner" 4) Re: Sopwith photo for sale, going, going, almost gone by "Bob Pearson" 5) RE: turtledeck stringers by Crawford Neil 6) RE: turtledeck stringers by "dfernet0" 7) RE: unwarping plastic parts by Crawford Neil 8) RE: Henri Farre (was Albert Ball's A134) by "dfernet0" 9) RE: My BE2c by Crawford Neil 10) The things Cats do Re: Lots of things by David Fleming 11) re Scottish Nats / Aeroclub bombs by David Fleming 12) Re: Austrian Website - Be prepared! - by "Allen H Besser" 13) Sopwith Rhino by Crawford Neil 14) RE: unwarping plastic parts by "dfernet0" 15) Re: New Fokker book by David Fleming 16) Re: Scottish Nats / Aeroclub news by David Fleming 17) RE: My BE2c by "dfernet0" 18) Catching Up by David Fleming 19) RE: unwarping plastic parts by "Michael Kendix" 20) Re: Delta news by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 21) RE: unwarping plastic parts by Crawford Neil 22) Re: Delta news by Jan Vihonen 23) RE: Delta news by Crawford Neil 24) Re: Delta news by "Michael Kendix" 25) RE: Delta news by "Michael Kendix" 26) Re: Catching Up by Allan Wright 27) Re: Delta news by Jan Vihonen 28) Re: SE.5a Seats and the AWM SE-5a by "Tom Sollers" 29) another Se5a question by Mark Miller 30) RE: Inexpensive air guage was Re: Correct Air Pressure for Future by Crawford Neil 31) Re: Roden Gotha and Part by Witold Kozakiewicz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:57:00 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748FFC@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Karen says: > I can die happy--all my dreams are fulfilled I'll be watching you with envious eyes and hoping for a full serving of vicarious thrills. US$139 plus postage, then exchange rate == A$550 Wow! Hands up all those Aussies buying one! Going by the lovely quality of the CSM kits I already have, I'm sure it's good value for money, but spending half a grand and then some on one kit would result in my death, divorce and emasculation, not necessarily in that order ! Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 00:07:38 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: CSM ANNOUNCEMENT Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010503000352.024f05a0@pop.amug.org> >shane, thanks for the compliment but i checked the currency converter and it would only be 265.16 aud including s&h(air 3-5days). you forgot your d.i. discount. :-) eric >US$139 plus postage, then exchange rate == A$550 > >Wow! Hands up all those Aussies buying one! > >Going by the lovely quality of the CSM kits I already have, I'm sure it's >good value for money, but spending half a grand and then some on one kit >would result in my death, divorce and emasculation, not necessarily in that >order ! > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 >********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:45:36 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Jasta 19 Colours Message-ID: <000001c0d3a5$0a5ff7e0$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Hans wrote: > Hmmm... I don't dare... really, no joke. I am very unhappy with the > camouflage streaking. I tried to do it with Humbrol acrylics over > Tamiya CDL > mix. But it went to 'hard'. I missed the subtle differences. But > I am trying > again with a Roden Tripe, but I'll try oils over Tamiya CDL. Hans, I've just had a similar experience. I'm building the Eduard tripe and it is my first shot at the streaky finish. I used Misterkit CDL but streaking their Fokker Olive Green didn't work (the paint wouldn't grab). I tried artist's acrylics, which came out ok, but the streaking is not quite as subtle as it should be. My conclusion is the same as yours - oils would be best. I seem to remember that RK used oils on his beautiful DV build in IM some time back (right Robert?), and that looks great. Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 00:24:16 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sopwith photo for sale, going, going, almost gone Message-ID: <200105022344.f42Ni9K21997@mail.rapidnet.net> What photo? I got a pile of code and a URL that takes me to an HTML updeate page Bob ---------- >From: "Dave Watts" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Sopwith photo for sale, going, going, almost gone >Date: Wed, May 2, 2001, 11:40 pm > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D371.527D9160 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi all, > > Spotted this Sopwith who had seen better days, and is in peril! > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:19:02 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: turtledeck stringers Message-ID: Don't really understand you here Tom, how do you mean by rolling thread flat? If you don't roll it flat, how else would you do it? Incidentally I'd use stretched sprue for this. You are welcome to elaborate. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: TOM PLESHA [mailto:APPMAN@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: den 3 maj 2001 01:25 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: turtledeck stringers > > > Hi Everyone- > I tried something new in making stringers on the turtledeck > of the Pup. > Using thread, as I have in the past, I thought I would roll > the thread flat > before gluing it on, etc. I use Floquill primer as filler. > Don't roll thread flat when you do this. It was a dismal failure. > I just removed it all and am starting over again, I could not > repair it. > FWIW > Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 07:29:35 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: turtledeck stringers Message-ID: <00a101c0d3bb$f57c8f20$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Tom Are you doing the 1/48 model? or the Airfix in the correct scale? IIRC for the 1/48 Eduard Harry Woodman wrote an article reccomending replacing the turtledeck with embossed plastic sheet. HTH D. PS: remember that most sopwiths had a small "wave" at the rear end of the turtledeck. Check pictures ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 7:23 AM Subject: RE: turtledeck stringers > Don't really understand you here Tom, how do you mean by > rolling thread flat? If you don't roll it flat, how else > would you do it? > Incidentally I'd use stretched sprue > for this. You are welcome to elaborate. > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:25:21 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: unwarping plastic parts Message-ID: Just as a curiousity I had badly warped parts on my classic-planes Deperdussin. I cured that by dipping in a cup of tea, it had milk in, but otherwise straight from the tea-pot, so somewhat less than boiling. I then put the fuselage shell under the cold tap, and drank the cup of tea. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Kendix [mailto:mkendix@hotmail.com] > Sent: den 2 maj 2001 21:12 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: unwarping plastic parts > > > I have fuselage halves that are bowed outward at the ends; in > other words, > the middle parts touch each other but the ends do not meet. > Is there a way > to rectify this without spoiling the kit, using naked flame > or concentrated > acid? If you offer a solution, please say whether you > actually have used > this method successfully yourself. > > Thanks, > > Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 07:42:17 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Henri Farre (was Albert Ball's A134) Message-ID: <012101c0d3bd$ba954bc0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> We should ask to Albatros Ltd. to publish a book of paintings of WW1. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lance Krieg To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Henri Farre (was Albert Ball's A134) > Mike reports: > > " I have ordered a book of his aircraft paintings from http://www.scry.com/ayer/ - a reprint from a 1920 book..." > > Please advise if this is "Sky Fighters of France", or some other book. I would like a book of his paintings, too, but "Sky Fighters" looks more like an illustrated reminiscence; how can one publish an art book for $22.00? > > Or have I got the wrong title? > > Lance > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:45:08 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: My BE2c Message-ID: Very well done Karen, and the same to Andrei. About mixing clear varnish with paint, I think Peter Cooke, the guy who scratchbuilds enormous Spitfires, Mustangs, Mosquitos etc. on a half production-line basis, uses clear varnish together with cellulose thinner and enamels when he paints. A big IIRC to the above. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Rychlewski [mailto:krychski@earthlink.net] > Sent: den 2 maj 2001 20:28 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: My BE2c > > > Hi Diego > > Actually, that's a good idea--just might do that if it will > persuade you to put > your finger chopper away > > Re: mixing enamel with varnish: hey, try it! I suspect it > will not work as well > as thinning with a solvent, because the varnish would make it > lighter in tone, > not thinner in consistency--but I could be wrong (it's been > known to happen...) > > Karen > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 10:43:53 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: The things Cats do Re: Lots of things Message-ID: <3AF12859.1D7E00E5@dial.pipex.com> MAnde72343@aol.com wrote: > > > Back when I was younger, and had a motorcycle, I used to work on it weekends > I wasn't riding it, and my then two cats would sit about six feet from the > garage (in the shade, of course) and watch me work, once, I looked over at > them, and the neighbor's cats had joined them, six or seven all together, > craning their necks to watch. I have never figured out why they were watching. > Merrill > One of mine will watch the toilet flush - she hears it going and rushes in to watch the water - and it only needs to be water ! The other one has a pathalogical hatred of the loo, after falling in as a kitten - bt she loves the bath....... And both are banned from the office when I'm modelling ! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 11:04:05 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: re Scottish Nats / Aeroclub bombs Message-ID: <3AF12D15.7A5ED729@dial.pipex.com> Sandy Adam wrote: > > There was a beautiful little scratchbuilt Caudron seaplane in rinky-dinky > scale that was in danger of being disqualified because it used a kit part as > basis of fuselage! This was a gorgeous model (even if it was in 1/72) with > the best turnbuckles I have seen for a long time. > Doh ! Forgot about that one ! Sandy is right, this was a lovely model, but confused me at first, because the builder had also left a setof unmade resin & wm parts to show how his model was made - I thought someone had entered an unfinished model in the scratchbuilt class.... > Good show, nice venue, good lighting, happy traders - you should all come > next year. > Sandy Here here - it's a good show. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:48:25 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: Austrian Website - Be prepared! - Message-ID: <006001c0d3be$994ed020$5d5a143f@compaq-computer> Anyone have any luck in translating this site? I found it a few weeks ago and have had no luck with any of the usual internet translaters (babelfish, free etc.). They usually just translate the heading on the overall window "you may now quit this page" or "Austro-Hungarian modeling site" but don't change the text in the lower window with the models? Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: Limon3 To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Austrian Website - Be prepared! - >I have been corresponding with Herr Plattner, and I agree very much. He has >given invaluable help with my current Berg DI. >Gabe >----- Original Message ----- >From: Hans Trauner >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:36 AM >Subject: Austrian Website - Be prepared! - > > >> Ladies and Gentlemen, >> scrolling around on Sierra's website I found a stunning pic of an austrian >> Brandenburg. >> Here is the adress of Peter Plattner, who made it: >> >> http://kukaviation.cjb.net/ >> >> It's all austrian text, but Gallerie means Gallery and Archiv means >Archives >> and Workbench means Workbench. Fasten your seatbelts and prepare the >finger >> chopper. >> >> Hans >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:03:06 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "WW1 List (E-mail)" Subject: Sopwith Rhino Message-ID: I found a page on the Rhino in "The fighting triplanes" by Evan Haddingham. No drawings but a good side-view photo. Also measurements and text, the flying characteristics were summarized by a test-pilot in one word "awful". If you want a copy Peter, send me your adress. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 07:56:39 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: unwarping plastic parts Message-ID: <012901c0d3bf$bb4a5900$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> >and drank > the cup of tea. Made me remember of another modelling blooper I starred: I was making watercolour glazings on my Albatros D.II wooden fuselage, dipping the brush in a glass of water from time to time. Suddenly, the reddish hue of the watercolour shifted to a darker brown and a strange shiny finish, but it adhered much better. Annoyed, I grabbed for the glass of coke I was drinking and while contemplating the mindboggling results of the last brushstrokes I swallowed a mouthful of old, opaque watercolour wash. Then I realized that I was dipping the brush in the coke instead of the glass and drank watercolour instead of coke... D. Enjoy! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 11:29:41 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: New Fokker book Message-ID: <3AF13314.3632565@dial.pipex.com> Courtney Allen wrote: > I have the new Fokker book order. Should arrive in the next couple of days. > If no one else pipes up with an initial look, I will when it comes in. > Courtney Saw this one yesterday in a book shop - the Latest in the Crowood series. Seems a fairly straightforward look at Fokker aircarft - some nice pictures (EIII 210.16 in RFc markings....), and a list of Fokkers with 'G' numbers. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 11:09:05 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Scottish Nats / Aeroclub news Message-ID: <3AF12E40.8F94A663@dial.pipex.com> dfernet0 wrote: > Sandy > Excellent report! Maybe you (or perhaps David) may have heard if Aeroclub's > injection-molded 1/72 FE8 is to be released in the near future? > D. > hope is the last thing to loose. Actually, I didn't ask - it's been in John's TBA list (Along with the Shorts 184) for about 6 years, and in the 'Coming soon' one for about 3. D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:44:11 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: My BE2c Message-ID: <01f101c0d3c6$5f61bc80$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> You're right Neil. I think that I read that in those books too. That's why he gets those silky finishes on their models. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil > About mixing clear varnish with paint, I think Peter Cooke, > the guy who scratchbuilds enormous Spitfires, Mustangs, Mosquitos > etc. on a half production-line basis, uses clear varnish together > with cellulose thinner and enamels when he paints. > A big IIRC to the above. > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:05:21 +0100 From: David Fleming To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Catching Up Message-ID: <3AF14981.12B6AD14@dial.pipex.com> Go away for a couple of days and 300+ messages appear......Some of them even OT !! (Car crashes, driving, pets, gas leaks, cat eating alligators - all human life is here !!) I have: 2 cats, one rabbit, 2 guinea pigs, 1 daughter, far too many models ! Allan, the suggestion for a WW1 UK meeting actually brought the ot driving topic a lot more OT than it was, rather than the other way round. But, you're the piper, so you call the tune !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 12:23:02 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: unwarping plastic parts Message-ID: >From: Crawford Neil > >Just as a curiousity I had badly warped parts on my classic-planes >Deperdussin. I cured that by dipping in a cup of tea, it had milk >in, but otherwise straight from the tea-pot, so somewhat less than >boiling. I then put the fuselage shell under the cold tap, and drank >the cup of tea. Neil: Do you mean the Deperdussin had milk in it or the tea? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:59:34 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Delta news Message-ID: Haven't heard of kits for the 1500 but I would buy one in a shot. Four engined, push-me-pull-you style and a good deal longer in span than the 0/400, this was the one they were all set to try and fly the atlantic in before Alcock and brown beat them to the punch. All I've heard in the past is varying suggestions on massive conversionprojects for the old Airfix 0/400. Someone tell me more about this kit, about Delta and about who I have to nag to buy one. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:32:36 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: unwarping plastic parts Message-ID: The tea, and I'm not going to tell you if the milk was in the tea first or if the tea was in first. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Kendix [mailto:mkendix@hotmail.com] > Sent: den 3 maj 2001 14:27 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: unwarping plastic parts > > > >From: Crawford Neil > > > >Just as a curiousity I had badly warped parts on my classic-planes > >Deperdussin. I cured that by dipping in a cup of tea, it had milk > >in, but otherwise straight from the tea-pot, so somewhat less than > >boiling. I then put the fuselage shell under the cold tap, and drank > >the cup of tea. > > Neil: > > Do you mean the Deperdussin had milk in it or the tea? > > Michael > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:34:56 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Delta news Message-ID: <3AF15070.3324AF56@helsinki.fi> Wasn't it 0/1500 that they built only a couple of them and they were used operationally only to scare some Afghani tribesmen after the war. Jan > Haven't heard of kits for the 1500 but I would buy one in a shot. > Four engined, push-me-pull-you style and a good deal longer in span than > the 0/400, this was the one they were all set to try and fly the atlantic > in before Alcock and brown beat them to the punch. > All I've heard in the past is varying suggestions on massive > conversionprojects for the old Airfix 0/400. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:40:02 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Delta news Message-ID: Yes, that's the one, I think it was called "The old Carthusian" I don't know why. I think they built more than two. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Vihonen [mailto:jan.vihonen@helsinki.fi] > Sent: den 3 maj 2001 14:40 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Delta news > > > Wasn't it 0/1500 that they built only a couple of them and they were > used operationally only to scare some Afghani tribesmen after the war. > > Jan > > > Haven't heard of kits for the 1500 but I would buy one in a shot. > > Four engined, push-me-pull-you style and a good deal longer > in span than > > the 0/400, this was the one they were all set to try and > fly the atlantic > > in before Alcock and brown beat them to the punch. > > All I've heard in the past is varying suggestions on massive > > conversionprojects for the old Airfix 0/400. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 12:46:04 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Delta news Message-ID: >From: Jan Vihonen > >Wasn't it 0/1500 that they built only a couple of them and they were >used operationally only to scare some Afghani tribesmen after the war. Was it that or an 0/400 on a painting I saw in a Peguin edition of T. E. Lawrence's "Seven Pillars of Wisdom"? Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 12:50:38 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Delta news Message-ID: >From: Crawford Neil > >Yes, that's the one, I think it was called "The old Carthusian" >I don't know why. Maybe someone involved was a Charterhouse School Old Boy, soccer fan or both. Old Carthusians won the F.A. Cup in 1881, crushing the Old Etonians, 3-0. Robert Graves ("Goodbye To All That") went to Charterhouse. Michael _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:56:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Catching Up Message-ID: <200105031256.IAA09310@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Go away for a couple of days and 300+ messages appear......Some of them > even OT !! (Car crashes, driving, pets, gas leaks, cat eating alligators > - all human life is here !!) > > I have: > 2 cats, one rabbit, 2 guinea pigs, 1 daughter, far too many models ! > > Allan, the suggestion for a WW1 UK meeting actually brought the ot > driving topic a lot more OT than it was, rather than the other way > round. But, you're the piper, so you call the tune !! I was really only putting the brakes on the Driving/Cat/etc part. Talk about modeling all you want. Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 16:02:28 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Delta news Message-ID: <3AF156E3.48A317F7@helsinki.fi> > Was it that or an 0/400 on a painting I saw in a Peguin edition of T. E. > Lawrence's "Seven Pillars of Wisdom"? > The Penguin edition I have has got an 0/400 in the front cover. Jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:22:42 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SE.5a Seats and the AWM SE-5a Message-ID: <200105031323.f43DNsX13310@mail.bcpl.net> I have a publication from World War I Aero Publishers (Volume 1 No. 6, published 1966), written by Charles L. Bourget on the RAF S.E.5a. It has many photos of S.E.5a details, including the cockpit. Some from Air Force Museum and others from the Australian War Memorial. It also includes a lovely set of plans by Bourget that include the interior layout. Both the plans and the photos from the Australian source show a boxy looking wood seat. The photo also shows part of a wide looking lap belt in canvas. It has what looks like leather trim on the edges and is attached to the seat with rope! The Air Force photos seem to show more of a flat bench. This AC has some modifications from the original (Marlin gun, etc.), so it is suspect. Hope this helps! Tom ------------------------------ Date: 3 May 2001 06:28:35 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: another Se5a question Message-ID: <20010503132835.13399.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> All this talk about the SE5a got me thinking I've been working on the Linburg kit. I decided to make it an se5 with the hispano suissa engine. I then decided to scratch build the landing gear from wood and brass. But Idiot that I am - I made the version with the fat wooden legs - and from what I can see it looks like the SE5 had tubular steel legs. I realy like the way the scratchbuilt gear look - does anyone know if it was ever seen on a SE5 Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:34:28 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Inexpensive air guage was Re: Correct Air Pressure for Future Message-ID: Just a note about this, I use an old badger compressor with neither pressure guage or water trap. I don't do much painting in the summer, and it's fairly dry here, so that's probably why I manage without. There is a small hole in the connection that lets out air, so what I get out is approximately about the same as a poorly inflated car-tire, which seems about right. Just saying this in case it's a comfort to anybody who doesn't want to spend money on a guage. It is possible to manage without. /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:50:39 +0200 From: Witold Kozakiewicz To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Roden Gotha and Part Message-ID: <3AF1622F.A743BF6D@bg.am.lodz.pl> Matt Bittner napisał(a): > > I wanted to ask this publicly because I think it could help more than > just myself. > > Witold, what special things - if any - did you have to do to the Roden > Gotha to get the Part p/e to fit? For example, I would suspect you had > to remove the molded in cockpit detail. Anything else? Did any other > parts require thinning to get the p/e to fit? TIA! > > Matt Bittner Not much. PE fits quite well. First remove all details from inner side of fuselage. thin part which goes over top of control panel (with square window). dry fit with pe control panel. Cut out holes for bombs in center part of fuselage. they can be very rough, on top goes metal floor, on bottom central part of lower wing. PE control stick is little too long, just cut off lower part or not glue to top of that "stretched sprue" horizontal axle like i did. Look at http://www.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze/dodatki/part/s72-150_gotha/08.html the wheel is little to high. Another part you must be careful is that little vertical sprue just right of control wheel. As you can see I broke mine, I made it little too long. You may thin that plastick ribs, and it is possible that they should be little narrower. I must admit that worse was to fit plastic parts together than to fit pe to fuselage. In one word - three times dry fit before glue. I think that glue with both halves of fuselage would be much easier than with only one. I'm sure you will do it better than me. Regards -- Witold Kozakiewicz ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3337 **********************