WWI Digest 3328 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: Junkers D.I in 1/48 urgently wanted! by "David C. Fletcher" 2) Re: WWI model list by CAUhlir@aol.com 3) Re: just a theory: sunken louvers by MAnde72343@aol.com 4) Re: WWI model list and Wills by "Muth and Zulick" 5) Re: Brits by "Len Smith" 6) Karen's Be2 by MAnde72343@aol.com 7) Re: Brits by Allan Wright 8) Re: Why my Salmson got ignored today by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 9) Re: Why my Salmson got ignored today by "Jim Landon" 10) no Jasta Boelcke mascot... was RE: the pet gallery... was RE: Blue Max was 'about pooches' by "Gaston Graf" 11) RE: Welcome Phil by "Nigel Rayner" 12) RE: Why my Salmson got ignored today by "Marcio Antonio Campos" 13) DML Fokker D-VII by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 14) Re: Karen Rychlewski's Be2c by philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be (Philippe Spriesterbach) 15) Re: Karen Rychlewski's Be2c by "Jim Landon" 16) Karen's Be2 by "TOM PLESHA" 17) Re: just a theory: sunken louvers by "Jim Landon" 18) Re: DML Fokker D-VII by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 19) RE: Rib Tapes (again) by Shane Weier 20) RE: Rigging by Shane Weier 21) Re: WWI model list and Wills by VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com 22) RE: just a theory: sunken louvers by Shane Weier 23) Re: WS web site on line ! by "Allen H Besser" 24) Whiskey & Soda by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 25) Re: Whiskey & Soda by "Matt Bittner" 26) RE: Karen Rychlewski's Be2c by Shane Weier ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:21:28 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Junkers D.I in 1/48 urgently wanted! Message-ID: <3AEDBB38.8070303@mars.ark.com> Hans Trauner wrote: > all my attempts to dig out a Blue Max Junkers D.I in 1/48 scale where > fruitless. Maybe one of you out there has a surplus kit on her/his shelves? I have the resin/metal Fun Model kit in 1/48th, but not the Blue Max version. But if you get desperate... Dave Fletcher -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:34:27 EDT From: CAUhlir@aol.com To: Subject: Re: WWI model list Message-ID: <16.c0df27c.281f1847@aol.com> Hi Phil and Welcome, Your desire to build "all possible aircraft of the period" in 1/72 made me smile. When I got into this hobby I also wanted one of each kit available in 1/48, not knowing I was coming in at the dawn of the golden age of WW1 modeling! I now have about 80 kits in my closet and more are coming out each year. And I only have one vac out of a bunch that are available!! At the raten the new kits are coming out my heirs will have to dispose of a bunch of them after I pass away!! Candice ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:45:26 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: just a theory: sunken louvers Message-ID: --part1_c5.105403df.281f1ad6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, you're always claiming you are a blacksmith, use can aluminum for the cowls, and make up a punch and die for the louvers, check out a leatherworking shop for the 'punch',they use several pattern punches that might be modified, (Grinder and file work) and the die can be machined into any reasonably hard metal, including brass or aluminum (because the softness of the can Al) Better make a multi louver (2,3,4) punch and die set, and lay out whole lines of the critters (and less hassle keeping them equidistant). The other possibility is to use an old fashioned hand paper punch (the kind that looks like a 'pliers' )([I use three different ones for small disks in plastic and thin brass)) Grind the punch part to shape, and put a louver outline blank on the old cutter part, braze it to something heavy, braze on a handle extension, and make yourself a bench mounted tool. Finally, there may be an industrial tool, that you could borrow/rent, a louver is just a half done perforation. Merrill --part1_c5.105403df.281f1ad6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim, you're always claiming you are a blacksmith, use can aluminum for the
cowls, and make up a punch and die for the louvers, check out a
leatherworking shop for the 'punch',they use several pattern punches that
might be modified, (Grinder and file work) and the die can be machined into
any reasonably hard metal, including brass or aluminum (because the softness
of the can Al) Better make a multi louver (2,3,4)                   punch and
die set, and lay out whole lines of the critters (and less hassle keeping
them equidistant). The other possibility is to use an old fashioned hand
paper punch (the kind that looks like a 'pliers' )([I use three different
ones for small disks in plastic and thin brass)) Grind the punch part to
shape, and put a louver outline blank on the old cutter part, braze it to
something heavy, braze on a handle extension, and make yourself a bench
mounted tool. Finally, there may be an industrial tool, that you could
borrow/rent, a louver is just a half done perforation.
Merrill --part1_c5.105403df.281f1ad6_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:52:26 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: WWI model list and Wills Message-ID: <000601c0d1af$15681ac0$0100005a@ptd.net> Er....not to put a damper on things, but I also made comments similar to Candice's to my daugther "Your inheritance is tied-up in plastic." Anyway, I was doing my will the other day (Yeah, I know, 50 year old lawyer finally gets around to doing his own will) and thought about what to do with all the old unmade kits and books when I'm dead. I set things up to divide any kits or books she doesn't want to be divided/given to list members (don't all applaud, there's not much there). I realize the list is a fluid thing with members coming and going, but I thought those on line when I go off line for good should be able to handle things. In any event, some food for thought for the rest of us. Mike Muth...hoping this depressingly morbid thread dies out quickly. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday,April 30,2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: WWI model list > Hi Phil and Welcome, > > Your desire to build "all possible aircraft of the period" in 1/72 made me smile. When I got into this hobby I also wanted one of each kit available in 1/48, not knowing I was coming in at the dawn of the golden age of WW1 modeling! I now have about 80 kits in my closet and more are coming out each year. And I only have one vac out of a bunch that are available!! At the raten the new kits are coming out my heirs will have to dispose of a bunch of them after I pass away!! > > Candice > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:56:37 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Brits Message-ID: <001a01c0d1af$c163d080$1d5808c3@mesh> Why is it undesirable to try to organise a gathering of UK members when it is quite acceptable to organise one for the OTF seminar? Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Wright" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Brits > Gentlemen, > > Please take this off-list. I'm all for people in the same area > getting together through the list, just please announce who you're > looking for and meet off list. > > Al > > ============================================================================ === > Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside > University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org > ============================================================================ === > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:59:48 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Karen's Be2 Message-ID: --part1_e.c2f49d6.281f1e34_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Much appreciated, beautiful. Merrill --part1_e.c2f49d6.281f1e34_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Much appreciated, beautiful.
Merrill --part1_e.c2f49d6.281f1e34_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:05:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Brits Message-ID: <200104302005.QAA17581@pease1.sr.unh.edu> It's not undesireable - just when the discussion degrades to the point that we're talking about the hazards of London driving then I feel it's time to right the ship (so to speak). Al > > Why is it undesirable to try to organise a gathering of UK members when it > is quite acceptable to organise one for the OTF seminar? > > Len. > > lensmith@clara.net > http://home.clara.net/lensmith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan Wright" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: Brits > > > > Gentlemen, > > > > Please take this off-list. I'm all for people in the same area > > getting together through the list, just please announce who you're > > looking for and meet off list. > > > > Al > > > > > ============================================================================ > === > > Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - > Southside > > University of New Hampshire > +-------------------------------------------------- > > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: > wwi@wwi-models.org > > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: > http://www.wwi-models.org > > > ============================================================================ > === > > > > > > > > =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 06:15:53 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Why my Salmson got ignored today Message-ID: <3AEDC7F9.65B0DF56@tac.com.au> Jim Landon wrote: > > Lorna, sorry to break your heart, but I'm sorry to say we *DON"T* have > another member for "The Sisterhood of WW1 Modellers". > > Margy was just one of the many people I told about the gas leak, aside from > the wwi list. > Damn! You're right Jim I'm disappointed, if only for the fact that I'd LOVE more women to discover this great hobby called modelling. It's got everything; challenges, a sense of achievement (all too rare at the moment in my case), fun people and most importantly lots of opportunities to shop. Mistress Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:47:03 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Why my Salmson got ignored today Message-ID: Sorry to be off topic again, but this is the funniest response I've gotten so far to my Natural Gas leak story: My friend Bill wrote: <> Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:48:18 +0200 From: "Gaston Graf" To: Subject: no Jasta Boelcke mascot... was RE: the pet gallery... was RE: Blue Max was 'about pooches' Message-ID: > > NO,NO, NO! Seriously Gaston we must try and keep more on-topic which > is modelling and WW1. I'm guilty as hell to as much ot as all the rest > of us, but we should really try and improve our ways, not make it worse! > Why don't you have a pets gallery on Jasta Boelke! , talking of that, > did they have a mascot? Jasta 1 had Richthofens dog I think? > /Neil Seriously... I don't know if Boelckes Jasta had a mascot or not. AfaIk, Boelcke himself did not have a dog but he loved horses. I do not have a pets gallery at Jasta Boelcke (yet) because I had no time yet to redo my private pictures website but I adding such a page. Linked to my little webmasters page I have the family page which is actually not available because the pictures are not up to date anymore. But like each family member has his/her page on that website, Max has his page as well. I only need to add a page about the cats. The intention of the webmaster page simply was to show my visitors who's reponsible for the content of my website. Because my webspace at Jasta Boelcke is limited to 15Mbs I opened a litte private website and linked it to Jasta Boelcke. As soon as my time allows I will redo the family website though. But currently I am working on my very first color profile of a Fokker Dr.1 so this will still have to wait. Gaston Graf (ggraf@vo.lu) Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: http://www.jastaboelcke.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:04:34 +0100 From: "Nigel Rayner" To: Subject: RE: Welcome Phil Message-ID: <000101c0d1b9$28b9e400$983bedc1@w1o0t3> Welcome to the list Phil. Your second name is rare - I used to know married couple of the same name in the UK, and people always found their name "interesting." Mind you, I had a call at work with a guy whose second name was Blackadder. No kidding. Mind you, he sounded kind of fed up when I exploded with laughter when he told me his name! Good luck with your goal - may I suggest that to get you warmed up, you start with the Eduard 1/72 Fokker DrI (non-profipack)? I'm building one now and I heartily recommend it to those returning to WWI or just starting out (Marcio, try an Eduard DrI first before you touch a Roden or Pegasus). It goes together very nicely and has plenty of detail in the cockpit - the only addition it needs is a set of seatbelts. When you've done one of those, try an Eduard Albatros DV, and then you'll be ready to try your hand at just about anything. Cheers, Nigel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:04:26 -0300 From: "Marcio Antonio Campos" To: Subject: RE: Why my Salmson got ignored today Message-ID: <005d01c0d1b9$24dea5a0$351ba8c0@office.br.starmedia.com> Lorna, Be patient. I have a friend from work, I always tell her about my "little planes", as she calls them, and showed her some websites about WWI modeling. She's delighted with the variety of colors, aircrafts and markings and has already asked me about prices and such things. Let's wait... Best regards from Brazil Marcio Antonio Campos Redator do GuiaSP StarMedia do Brasil marcio.campos@starmedia.net http://www.guiasp.com.br http://www.guiarj.com.br http://www.nacidade.com.br > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf > Of Shane & > Lorna Jenkins > Sent: Segunda-feira, 30 de Abril de 2001 17:15 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Why my Salmson got ignored today > > > Jim Landon wrote: > > > > Lorna, sorry to break your heart, but I'm sorry to say we > *DON"T* have > > another member for "The Sisterhood of WW1 Modellers". > > > > Margy was just one of the many people I told about the gas > leak, aside from > > the wwi list. > > > > Damn! > > You're right Jim I'm disappointed, if only for the fact that I'd LOVE > more women to discover this great hobby called modelling. It's got > everything; challenges, a sense of achievement (all too rare at the > moment in my case), fun people and most importantly lots of > opportunities to shop. > > Mistress Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:09:38 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: DML Fokker D-VII Message-ID: Hi Folks, I have looked all over for these, on Ebay, etc...and keep missing. Does anyone have one or two they would want to sell or trade for?? Almost had a Hasegawa re-release, but I drew the line at $40US!!!! I have emailed DML and they seem to have no immediate plans to reissue these. Any help would be appreciated!!! Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:16:15 GMT From: philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be (Philippe Spriesterbach) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Karen Rychlewski's Be2c Message-ID: <3aeed53f.137341314@mail.pi.be> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:19:43 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >Karen sent me some photos of her latest model, a Be2c. They're in her >gallery. Prepare to be amazed. I'm in awe, this job is stunningly attractive. -- Philippe Spriesterbach http://www.ping.be/phillipe_models/ philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be IPMS Belgium Member #F015 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:20:44 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Karen Rychlewski's Be2c Message-ID: Karen! I wish you would stop building these 1:12 scale models and then trying to pass them off as 1:48. How dumb do you think we are? But all seriousness aside, your models are incredible. How in the world did you ever paint the lacing so perfectly? And please don't say you'll never do it again. And your photography is equally fantastic. You could have submitted the photos to Allan for the real airplane photo category and he would never have suspected they weren't. Jim >From: Allan Wright >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Karen Rychlewski's Be2c >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:19:57 -0400 (EDT) > >Karen sent me some photos of her latest model, a Be2c. They're in her >gallery. Prepare to be amazed. > >Allan > >=============================================================================== >Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - >Southside >University of New Hampshire >+-------------------------------------------------- >Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org >Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: >http://www.wwi-models.org >=============================================================================== _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:03:09 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Karen's Be2 Message-ID: <000501c0d1c1$58b4a160$c8474c0c@tom> How were you able to take such a clear photo inside a hanger and block out the other aircraft, etc.? How did you convince them to let you take photos from the top of the hanger ? Absolutely stunning. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:13:42 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: just a theory: sunken louvers Message-ID: Thanks Merrill for some great food for thought. Thanks also to SP who sent me his suggestion off-list. Jim >From: MAnde72343@aol.com >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: just a theory: sunken louvers >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:51:12 -0400 (EDT) > >--part1_c5.105403df.281f1ad6_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Jim, you're always claiming you are a blacksmith, use can aluminum for the >cowls, and make up a punch and die for the louvers, check out a >leatherworking shop for the 'punch',they use several pattern punches that >might be modified, (Grinder and file work) and the die can be machined into >any reasonably hard metal, including brass or aluminum (because the >softness >of the can Al) Better make a multi louver (2,3,4) punch >and >die set, and lay out whole lines of the critters (and less hassle keeping >them equidistant). The other possibility is to use an old fashioned hand >paper punch (the kind that looks like a 'pliers' )([I use three different >ones for small disks in plastic and thin brass)) Grind the punch part to >shape, and put a louver outline blank on the old cutter part, braze it to >something heavy, braze on a handle extension, and make yourself a bench >mounted tool. Finally, there may be an industrial tool, that you could >borrow/rent, a louver is just a half done perforation. >Merrill > >--part1_c5.105403df.281f1ad6_boundary >Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Jim, you're always claiming >you are a blacksmith, use can aluminum for the >
cowls, and make up a punch and die for the louvers, check out a >
leatherworking shop for the 'punch',they use several pattern punches >that >
might be modified, (Grinder and file work) and the die can be machined >into >
any reasonably hard metal, including brass or aluminum (because the >softness >
of the can Al) Better make a multi louver (2,3,4) >                  punch >and >
die set, and lay out whole lines of the critters (and less hassle >keeping >
them equidistant). The other possibility is to use an old fashioned >hand >
paper punch (the kind that looks like a 'pliers' )([I use three >different >
ones for small disks in plastic and thin brass)) Grind the punch part >to >
shape, and put a louver outline blank on the old cutter part, braze it >to >
something heavy, braze on a handle extension, and make yourself a bench >
mounted tool. Finally, there may be an industrial tool, that you could >
borrow/rent, a louver is just a half done perforation. >
Merrill > >--part1_c5.105403df.281f1ad6_boundary-- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:34:55 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: DML Fokker D-VII Message-ID: <001701c0d1c5$c8ecf9b0$3e3c183f@cyrixp166> Mytbe Hans will swap you his DML D.VII for your Blue Max D.I? Cyg. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: DML Fokker D-VII > > Hi Folks, > I have looked all over for these, on Ebay, etc...and keep missing. Does > anyone have one or two they would want to sell or trade for?? Almost had a > Hasegawa re-release, but I drew the line at $40US!!!! I have emailed DML > and they seem to have no immediate plans to reissue these. Any help would > be appreciated!!! > > Regards, > John > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:45:07 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Rib Tapes (again) Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748FD3@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Ken, > I've learned from the list that control surfaces (ailerons > and probably > elevators, too) usually didn't have rib tapes applied. What about the > horizontal stabilizer? Depends on the aircraft. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, sometimes they tape every second rib. Unlike the main planes on an OT aircraft the tailplanes are usually not lifting surfaces - that is, the underside is NOT concave. Often the tailplane will be flat, top and bottom, or at most slightly convex, top and bottom, so there's no way the fabric, once shrunk, should pull away from the ribs and no need for the extra trouble and expense of stitching and taping, especially if the chord is relatively short. Not much help, but the answer is really - look at your references. (OR - ask us for help on a specific aircraft - I bet the answer will arrive before you've cut the tapes) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:52:30 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Rigging Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748FD4@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Neil, > No, not too thick, and a very nice model, lovely scale! I build one in dinky scale each year to remind me How much I enjoy the real scale models I build the rest of the time. ;-) Shane (and incidentally to ensure that there's at least one OT model in dinky scale in our annual contest - I shouldn't worry because there has always been OT opposition) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:53:26 EDT From: VMA324Vagabonds@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WWI model list and Wills Message-ID: <105.2aed014.281f54f6@aol.com> In a message dated 4/30/2001 3:53:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, artzulick@ptd.net writes: << Anyway, I was doing my will the other day (Yeah, I know, 50 year old lawyer finally gets around to doing his own will) and thought about what to do with all the old unmade kits and books when I'm dead. I set things up to divide any kits or books she doesn't want to be divided/given to list members >> Hey Mike, I'm wishing you a long and prosperous life buddy, that way there'll be a bunch more kits in the closet to divvy up when you finally meet the Master Model maker in the sky, lol. Anyone talk to Mike West of Lone Star Models lately, I'm waiting over 3 weeks now for my H.B. W.20 from him. Best regards, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:58:33 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: just a theory: sunken louvers Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748FD6@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Jim asks: > What > little louvers you say? I dunno. Cut from soft drink can > aluminum and > formed in some kind of mold? This may not work for you because of the shape of the louvres, but here is how I've made *raised* louvres for my (slowly progressing) scratchbuilt LVG C.VI On the C.VI the louvres are (mostly) in groups of three on small metal disks. I made *one* disk the right size from thin aluminium sheet (Coke can!) and used a chisel tip Exacto blade ground down to the right width for the louvres to punch three parallel slots in the disk. I made a resin block with a shallow hole (about 1mm) the same diameter as the disks, and put the disk inside the hole. Used the cut down blade to mark through into the resin the accurate positions for the slots, then my power tool with two different tiny milling tools to make slightly oversized louvres *impressions* behind each vertically impressed slot I then used the original disk as a jig and the blade to punch identical slots into a succession of other disks of thin aluminium sheet. Each in turn get dropped into the resin block, fiddled into alignment using the blade, then the louvres pushed down into the impressions milled into the resin using the blunt end of a darning needle to emboss them. Problems - the jig disk would be better made of brass or something harder because it got loose after about 10 runs and meant a higher rejection rate. The hole in the resin block was made by casting the end of my punch, which meant the disks were of an identical diameter alright, but so tight once embossed that I ruined the first couple getting them out. It needed a *slight* reaming with a knife blade, and a slot milled in the side to allow me to get a needle under the edge of teh louvres to flip them out. They look pretty convincing when done *though* to be fair I've made over 20 to get the half dozen good ones. (Next tricks - paint them without filling the slots, install them without clogging with glue, and keeping my stupid fingers from pressing the louvres back down again on the model) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:00:53 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: WS web site on line ! Message-ID: <002601c0d1d1$cb7534c0$a25a143f@compaq-computer> FWIW first time I tried to log on got an error message with site cannot be found etc., etc. Tried an hour later and reached it fine. Don't give up, if at first you don't succeed etc., etc But!NO SUBSCRIPTION info :( I sent them an e-mail re: U.S. subscriptions, hopefully they'll respond. Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: dfernet0 To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, April 30, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: RE: WS web site on line ! >great news! At last! >D. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Alberto Casirati >To: Multiple recipients of list >Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 12:04 PM >Subject: WS web site on line ! > > >> Sorry if this is old news (I am forced to "lurk mode" at present), but >here >> is WS's website address: >> >> www.windsockdatafilespecials.com >> >> All the very best, >> >> Alberto Casirati >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:21:05 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Whiskey & Soda Message-ID: <000701c0d1d4$9dc48d70$9439183f@cyrixp166> Not trying to be a wise guy but: Believe it or not Model Cellar Productions makes a figure of Raoul Lufbery that comes with Whiskey & Soda. Regards, John Cyg. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:36:33 -0500 From: "Matt Bittner" To: "wwi@wwi-models.org" Subject: Re: Whiskey & Soda Message-ID: <200105010034.RAA05576@avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:32:24 -0400 (EDT), John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > Believe it or not Model Cellar Productions makes a figure of Raoul Lufbery > that comes with Whiskey & Soda. And whomever asked (Neil?) they were real lions used as mascots for the Lafayette Escadrille, N.124. Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:37:59 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Karen Rychlewski's Be2c Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748FD9@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> > Karen sent me some photos of her latest model, a Be2c. They're in her > gallery. Prepare to be amazed. FOR SALE About 400 OT models....I don't have the talent anymore. Karen, I hate you. 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