WWI Digest 3302 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Toko, Eastern Express, Roden kits by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 2) Re: Sorry a way ot request by "Lance Mertz" 3) Aww, shucks, guys by Karen Rychlewski 4) 1:1 scale models (was: Daolls in cockpits) by "Bob Pearson" 5) Tres cool Spad by "Bob Pearson" 6) Re: Tres cool Spad by "TOM PLESHA" 7) Re: WOW! by RadspadMike@netscape.net 8) RE: Figures (was Let me introduce myself) by ERIC HIGHT 9) Re: Paint Schemes for the Brave by RadspadMike@netscape.net 10) Re: Web Update by RadspadMike@netscape.net 11) High Time Type by "Steven M.Perry" 12) Re: High Time Type by MAnde72343@aol.com 13) Re: High Time Type by RadspadMike@netscape.net 14) since it's so quiet.... by Ernest Thomas 15) Re: Build before buying???? by huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) 16) Re: since it's so quiet.... by MAnde72343@aol.com 17) Re: since it's so quiet.... by Shane & Lorna Jenkins 18) Re: since it's so quiet.... by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 19) Ernest sez by "Bob Pearson" 20) more WOW! by Ernest Thomas 21) Fw: Scottish clans was RE: Spad season by "Sandy Adam" 22) Karen's AEG by "Sandy Adam" 23) Zeppelin E4/20 Was: Finished a model at last by Steve Cox 24) Re: Aww, shucks, guys by Mark Miller 25) Re: Wheels of the RAF, Crossley Tender by "cameron rile" 26) Re: Wheels of the RAF, Crossley Tender by "Tom Sollers" 27) Jasta tents by Mark Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:17:18 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: Subject: Toko, Eastern Express, Roden kits Message-ID: Marcio: When you build that W.29, be sure to have some styrene rod available. If you can get Evergreen styrene, buy a pack of .20 and .30 diameter rod. They'll come in handy for other Toko kits and those Eastern Express kits that were originally Toko models. Just about all the Toko kits had strut problems of one kind or another. The W.29's problem was in the strut connections between the floats and the fuselage. You'll have to replace the kit parts with rod you cut yourself. The W.29 was one of the first models I made as I reintroduced myself to WW1 Modeling. Besides the struts, the other problem I had was with the brittle nature of the plastic. I pressed the fuselage a little too hard and it cracked on me. Much putty work was required to fix it. There's a picture of it on the WW1 site in the Model Galleries. Oh, yeah, something else to look out for is the alignment of the exhaust pipes. You'll note that mine are a little skewed. I used the Americal/Gryphon decals on my W.29. The only other Toko kits I've built are two of the Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutters. The strut problem manifested itself in the cabane area on these kits. I've built all the Roden kits except the Gotha and can heartily endorse them. I've also built an Eastern Express Morane Type I -- which was at one time a Temens (or Temeks) kit. I had to do a little carving to make it accept an aftermarket Vickers, but other than that, it's a nice kit. As Michael said, the Eduard's are great. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:32:31 -0800 From: "Lance Mertz" To: Subject: Re: Sorry a way ot request Message-ID: <00a701c0c9f2$2c1f6ee0$9601a8c0@Lance> Venice, as in Italy... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Solinski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Sorry a way ot request > Hi Lance - Boats! Oklahoma city is damming up the North Canadian river and > they want a water taxi service. Just looking for some advice > Thanks > > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lance Mertz > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:04 PM > Subject: RE: Sorry a way ot request > > > > You mean as in boats that haul people or seaplanes?? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Tom > > Solinski > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:34 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: Sorry a way ot request > > > > > > Hi all > > > > Ernie welcome back > > > > New folks welcome aboard > > > > Any of you have any experiance with water taxi services? Please contact > me > > off list > > > > TIA > > Tom Solinski > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:10:47 -0400 From: Karen Rychlewski To: to post Subject: Aww, shucks, guys Message-ID: <3AE0C1F7.1DF30CC@earthlink.net> Hey Guys You're really embarrassing me...that AEG is no better than many other models I've seen in the website galleries. It's just a kit, fellas, and building it during a rather stressful time in my life was good therapy. Thought I'd answer a couple of the questions y'all had in one place: > < "weathered/non > weathered" look is the real show stopper. How did you do that, Karen? > > Volker >> > > The "splattering" over the hexes is outstanding. This effect is mentioned in > the reports of the time, and the model has it perfectly. > RK > There was no description of how it was done on the actual airplane, so I used 'best judgment': tried lightly wiping on the grey paint with a cloth, but it looked really bad. Got the effect I wanted by dry brushing: used a stiff brush, very little paint, and dabbed at the surface--it's what's called "stippling" in the fine art world > and nicely photographed > too, what photo set-up do you use? > /Neil > I've been using these model photos as tests of my new digital camera, Olympus E-10. The set-up is primitive at best: kitchen table, couple of sheets of watercolor paper for background, and two 200 watt photo lights. The images are processed for the web in Photoshop 6.0.1: color and tone balanced, sharpened, and such--and I will confess to 'fixing' some minor flaws in the model: the decal has started to crack and peel in a couple of places and the white paint has yellowed some--those were pretty simple to fix digitally Someone (I forget who) asked about the references I used--the primary references were Windsock, Vol. 3, No. 4, Winter, 1987 and Vol. 4, No. 1, Spring, 1988. I remember seeing some of the other pictures that later appeared in the Datafile, but I don't remember where. Early next week I'll send the six gallery photos and a few more to the 'Giants' website. Again, I humbly thank all of you for the compliments...finished up my week with a bang! The Cubs are playing the Pittsburgh Pirates tonight--gotta go watch Karen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:32:41 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: 1:1 scale models (was: Daolls in cockpits) Message-ID: <200104201504.f3KF4mK18558@mail.rapidnet.net> Hey Dave, Once you have it flying again, why not take a trip up here for a day? And to get it back OT, there are some really cool photos of Fritz Höhn carrying his teddy bear and it behind him on his Pfalz D.III/IIIa. I did a profile and T-shirt of SE5a F5910 for Brad Gossen a few years ago, on it Claxton had a doll affixed behind the cockpit. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:53:39 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Tres cool Spad Message-ID: <200104201505.f3KF56K18578@mail.rapidnet.net> sorta tooting my own horn. .. and Matt Bailey's. ... http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWI/spad-13/spad-13.htm Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:33:22 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Tres cool Spad Message-ID: <000b01c0c9f2$4aa882c0$1d424c0c@tom> You have every right to do so! Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Pearson" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:19 PM Subject: Tres cool Spad > sorta tooting my own horn. .. and Matt Bailey's. ... > > http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/WWI/spad-13/spad-13.htm > > Bob > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:17:57 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: WOW! Message-ID: <415CA576.4B20545F.3E0364A1@netscape.net> EtH wrote: > NEVER have I had such an outpouring of well wishes, or > such a warm fuzzy feeling. Y'all just don't know what a nice feeling it > was to come home to find all these messages from so many people. E. Don't get carried away with the "warm fuzzy feeling". Most of us know how difficult it is to find a new genuine heretic. . . and when you do, they are virtually impossible to housebreak and train. We were just looking out for the List's best interests. ;-)) VBR, Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:36:22 -0700 From: ERIC HIGHT To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Figures (was Let me introduce myself) Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010420173347.01d49b60@pop.amug.org> shane, any difference between them and their brit & canadian counter parts? and these are just the first. patience my man patience! eric At 07:58 PM 4/19/01 -0400, you wrote: >Eric, > > > i wouldn't dare give you something more to whine about!! :-) > >Hee hee. Whine? Moi? Of course, and cheese with that ! > >So why aren't you doing Australian figures then ;-) > >Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 >********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:05:14 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Paint Schemes for the Brave Message-ID: <7D07706F.414A032D.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Mark Shannon wrote: > >  Remember, too, that a lot of the museums allowed smoking around the >exhibits for years - talk about a dingy yellow stain. Do you suppose Voss and his mechanics were very heavy smokers? ;-) Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:11:44 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Web Update Message-ID: <4B7AF576.2671F128.3E0364A1@netscape.net> wwi@wwi-models.org wrote: > > Hold onto your hats people! > > Karen Rychlewski has sent me some photos of her award winning A.E.G. > bomber. They're amazing! They're in her gallery, and a handy link is on > the news page. > Karen, YourA.E.G. is amazing, especially considering the scale. Did your skill develop over time or did you just take to such a high level of modeling like a duck to water? Mike K. > Thanks Karen! > -Al > > =============================================================================== > Allan Wright Jr.            | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside > University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center   | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org > Internet: aew@unh.edu       | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org > =============================================================================== > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:31:05 -0400 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: High Time Type Message-ID: <000701c0ca02$bc7e19e0$30f1aec7@default> I wonder which design flew the most combat hours and which flew the most combined combat & non combat hours, (thinking of front line type retired to trainer service or similar). Who were the real workhorses? sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:41:29 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: High Time Type Message-ID: --part1_bc.1386a7ae.28123f49_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As a guess, for the Brits, Avro 504's, with BE2's close behind. For the French, SPAD VII (it was popular postwar) with the long serving Breguet 14 behind.For the Germans the Albatros CIII, with the Rumpler CIV close behind. For the Americans, no contest, the American built DH-4. Merrill --part1_bc.1386a7ae.28123f49_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As a guess, for the Brits, Avro 504's, with BE2's close behind. For the
French, SPAD VII (it was  popular postwar) with the long serving Breguet 14
behind.For the Germans the Albatros CIII, with the Rumpler CIV close behind.
For the Americans, no contest, the American built DH-4.
Merrill --part1_bc.1386a7ae.28123f49_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:48:33 -0400 From: RadspadMike@netscape.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: High Time Type Message-ID: <18931EBC.5ECEDB2D.3E0364A1@netscape.net> Steve wrote: > > I wonder which design flew the most combat hours and which flew the most > combined combat & non combat hours, (thinking of front line type retired to > trainer service or similar). > > Who were the real workhorses? > sp > The AVRO 504 first comes to mind, but how would anyone know which aircraft type had the most hours? Was this data recorded and maintained in any reliable fashion? Mike K. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:28:00 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: since it's so quiet.... Message-ID: <3AE10C50.4EDBEB23@bellsouth.net> So did we ever decide what color Voss' cowl was? E. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 23:14:29 -0500 From: huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Build before buying???? Message-ID: >Marcio wrote: >I've already got, right? > > >Actually Marcio, >There is a mathematical formula for this, I forget it exactly, but I think >one usually buys something like 20 models for each one we build. :) Actually, I think it goes something like this 1. If you take a model out of an existing stack to look at it, you have to buy one more to add back to the stack to keep things in balance. 2. If you take one out to build (start is fine) then you must buy a minimum of three to replace the void that was left by the removed kit. 3. If you try to take every thing out/down to inventory and then replace them on the shelf, it will always take a minimum of 6 kits to re balance the stack so it will not fall over. The way I look at it, is that I always buy kits/conversions with the intent of building them and to fill a void in my collection. I am not a kit collector nor do I fall into that trap. At the current rate of buying/building, I have appx 3.7 lifetimes ahead of me to complete the current stash. Since I can't go till they are all built, I just hedge the bet a bit and add a couple of new kits a week. I wouldn't want to start getting close to the bottom of the stack too early. I haven't even made it to mid life crisis time yet. That is still at least 15 or 20 years away. Don't know what i will do then, probably slow down a bit and concentrate on finding the answer to life's two biggest questions: What shade of Red was was on 425/17 and what was the actual color of Voss's cowling. John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:31:16 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: since it's so quiet.... Message-ID: <49.a347f4d.28126714@aol.com> --part1_49.a347f4d.28126714_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I take back every nice thing I ever said or thought about you, E, now I remember why they burned heretics! Merrill --part1_49.a347f4d.28126714_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I take back every nice thing I ever said or thought about you, E, now I
remember why they burned heretics!
Merrill --part1_49.a347f4d.28126714_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:43:30 +1000 From: Shane & Lorna Jenkins To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: since it's so quiet.... Message-ID: <3AE10FF2.87366C65@tac.com.au> Ernest Thomas wrote: > > So did we ever decide what color Voss' cowl was? > E. Yeah it's #$&*%* red!! Lorna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:58:01 -0400 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: since it's so quiet.... Message-ID: <002101c0ca1f$a5514ea0$d937183f@cyrixp166> Yes, each of us has decided. I see he is well enough to be strirring the pot. Welcome back Ernie, I am glad that you are okay. Regards, John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:31 AM Subject: since it's so quiet.... > So did we ever decide what color Voss' cowl was? > E. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:38:09 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: ww1 mailing list Subject: Ernest sez Message-ID: <200104202130.f3KLUTK33204@mail.rapidnet.net> hi all, Been talking to EtH and he was moaning that no one loved him - there has been no replies to his Wow post. ....... guess who was unsubscribed ... anyway, anyone looking to get ahold of him send a direct message to ethomas6@bellsouth.net as he is staying unsubscribed for a bit longer to get caught up in homework. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:48:48 -0500 From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: more WOW! Message-ID: <3AE13B60.9F59D691@bellsouth.net> Ok, as Bob so kindly told y'all(thanks Bob) I've been unknowingly un-subbed for the last few days, which explains why I got no response to my first WOW post(except for a few off list). So once again, a big thank you to everyone on this list. You have all been great friends over the last few years, and I'm sure you will continue to be for many more. My life would be a lot less funner without this group. A special thanks to Alan and Assistant Editor:-)Matt for making it all possible. Seeing as how I'm now about 5 sections behind in my Algebra class,(which amounts to 378 problems[I just counted]) I feel I should stay unsubbed until the end of semester so I don't totally blow it. I'll be back sometime in May. But before I go, I want to answer a few posts I just saw in the archives. Yes, as of right now, I have now officially quit smoking. In spite of the warnings of my family, and doctors, I've been dipping into the last pack & 1/2 I had when I came home. My family and my doctors are morally, and perhaps legally obligated to tell me to quit, so their urgings are suspect. The urgings of you folks, who are niether morally nor legally obligated to tell me to quit have prompted this decision. (in truth, it was Lady Bracknell who pushed me over the edge. who could argue with that logic? thank you Nigel, and thank you Oscar Wilde) Brian, I have no problem with you guys divying up my kit stash while I was dying. I would do the same for any one of you blokes too. Volker, I can tell you with utmost certainty that the shot came FROM THE GROUND!(which just got me thinking; to less knowledgeable girls in bars, I could claim this scar as MVR stigmata. Very cool!) I know there was a few others I wanted to answer as well, but it's very late and I must go to bed. Welcome to all the new folks. This is the best bar in town. You will find all the answers here, I promise. Also, sorry for the Voss cowl hand grenade I tossed in a little while ago. I honestly thought the list was just dead silent for the last 30something hours(stupid,stupid,stupid!). (ot)And one final word on Joey Ramone. As saddened as I was by his death, I was just as surprised that it was cancer that got him. I would have bet the farm on an overdose of phenol barbitol. Y'all have fun while I'm gone. I'm confident that DB will maintain a minimum standard of humor and depravity in my absence, and equally confident that Elder Shane and Mistress Lorna will take over if he doesn't(and maybe even if he does). diditdiditdidat's all folks! EtH ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:44:00 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Fw: Scottish clans was RE: Spad season Message-ID: <003d01c0ca3f$aea6eee0$1fe8b094@sandyada> (I don't think this posted when I sent it originally - forgive me if it did.) 'Fraid I don't know much about clanology, Steve - but I know there's a bloke here in Crieff who designs tartan and runs a website somewhere with clan histories. BTW you must not put an Irish 'e' in Scottish whisky. I hadn't really thought about it before, but somebody recently pointed out to me that Scottish names (without Mac in them) are often interchangeable - ie Malcolm George, Thomas Graham, Crawford Findlay, etc etc... I said very interesting, but doesn't apply to me - until I thought again and realised my Sunday name is Alexander Adam - quod erat demonstrandum! Now how do I get this back OT? - Oh yes Linke-Crawford! - I seem to remember his dad (Linke) was Polish and his mum (Crawford - Lucy, I think?) was British - so quite possibly he could trace his lineage back to that public toilet in the village of Crawford. Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:41:26 +0100 From: "Sandy Adam" To: "AAA - WWI Modelling List" Subject: Karen's AEG Message-ID: <003c01c0ca3f$adab29c0$1fe8b094@sandyada> Can I add my voice to the chorus of approval from this knowledgeable and appreciative bunch. What a beautiful model, Karen. I have been trying to build up steam to build this kit for two or three years now - reckon I won't bother now! It's all already been done. (Your other models are pretty terrific too.) I see RK says there is a description somewhere of how you achieved the scumble wear effect. I have never seen this but would love to know more - can you give us a brief description please? Thanks Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:58:19 +0100 From: Steve Cox To: Subject: Zeppelin E4/20 Was: Finished a model at last Message-ID: Yes that was me. I am going to put a gun position behind all engines, since the engineer had to be able to reach them all, and the description in the Giants book describes it as such. Do you think that the engineers would be able to get back to the fuselage as well as between the engines? I had a word with an aerospace designer (who has worked on airships) who confirmed the engineers would have had a crawl tube along the wing spar. As for the engines I think the German Giants book shows six cylinders, but when I draw a scale diagram of the Maybach IV from the VGO drawing on page 214 it came out much larger, extending back into the wing spar. Anyone on the list have accurate dimensions for the Maybach Mb.IVa engine? How do you think the nose engine would have been cooled? a radiator behind the prop, or on the fuselage sides? I think the whole a/c would have been painted in night lozenge had it ever been operational, but for testing it would probably have been left bare metal, except perhaps in front of the cockpits, to reduce glare. Final question - The fuselage to ground clearance is barely enough to get a 1000Kg PuW bomb under to load into an internal bomb bay. Do you think the undercarriage would have been 'taller'? Regards Steve =========================================== steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html If I didn't spend so much time on line ‹‹ I'd get some models finished ================ > From: "aa8." > Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:14:18 -0400 (EDT) > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Finished a model at last > > Steve > are you the man that picked up the last E4/20 from Jennings? > I've cut bits of mine out and rubbed them down and it seems pretty ok. > What are you going to use for a nose engine? The kit engines For what their > worth seem to be five cylinder jobs also as shown in German Giants. Are > these Maybach units do you think? > I might use Mercedes six cylinder examples. > Also are you going to put a gunners position behind all four wing mounted > engines? I've gone for two behind the inners only. > Also again according to German giants part of the wing was fabric covered. > Trouble is I can't work out which bit. I wanted to cover that bit with night > lozenge. What do you think. > Also, also, also, > welcome to all the list newcomers. > This is a great list but 50% of my modelling time is spent reading > E-mail--You do learn a lot though > regards > Andy Jones > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Cox" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 8:40 PM > Subject: Re: Finished a model at last > > >> Yes Diego, it's the Scaleplanes. I didn't think it was too bad a > vac-form, >> but then I've only ever built one before this, though I've discovered I > like >> vac-forms and have lots on the go. Next on the bench is Zeppelin Staaken >> E4/20, which needs a lot of changes to make it into the wartime bomber >> project. >> >> Then I'll go back to the PV8 Kitten >> >> Regards >> Steve >> >> nb >> =========================================== >> steve@oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk >> http://www.oldglebe.freeserve.co.uk/steveshome.html >> If I didn't spend so much time on line >> << I'd get some models finished >> ================ >> >>> From: "dfernet0" >>> Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >>> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:13:47 -0400 (EDT) >>> To: Multiple recipients of list >>> Subject: RE: Finished a model at last >>> >>> Nice Model, Steve! >>> Wich kit is this? The Scaleplanes vacuform? It looks very nice (unlike > the >>> vac sheet on wich it is molded into) >>> D. >>> >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 2001 04:52:10 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aww, shucks, guys Message-ID: <20010421115210.21359.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Fri, 20 April 2001, Karen Rychlewski wrote: > > Hey Guys > > You're really embarrassing me...that AEG is no better than many other models I've seen in the website galleries. It's just a kit, fellas, and building it during a rather stressful time in my life was good therapy. > for shame boys I think you made the lady blush but I have to agree - the AEG is clearly a beautiful piece of work. > There was no description of how it was done on the actual airplane, so I used 'best judgment': tried lightly wiping on the grey paint with a cloth, but it looked really bad. Got the effect I wanted by dry brushing: used a stiff brush, very little paint, and dabbed at the surface--it's what's called "stippling" in the fine art world > So you dry-brushed the whole thing ? What an enormous effort - I don't think I would have the strength The effect is obviously worth it though I remember seeing some model RR structures for sale once. They had this stippling effect which the clerk said was made with an airbrush - something to do with low air pressure (or was it high) I don't remember exactly but it was a nice effect, more useful for weathering than anything else, I was wondering if any of the airbrush experts know how this is done. Or did I just dream it But I think the scale of the splatter was to small for what you needed on the AEG > . The images are processed for the web in Photoshop 6.0.1: color and tone balanced, sharpened, and such--and I will confess to 'fixing' some minor flaws in the model: the decal has started to crack and peel in a couple of places and the white paint has yellowed some--those were pretty simple to fix digitally > Oh my!! we'll have none of this "digital manipulation" around here :-) But isn't Photoshop just so much fun - it's amazing software I must confess There was this one photo of the albatros C3 where there was a piece of rigging which I hadn't trimmed back the clone tool made short work of it but I did feel a little guilty > The Cubs are playing the Pittsburgh Pirates tonight--gotta go watch > I think I recall you are from W. Viginia, so I assume you are a Pirates fan. My family all comes from the beaver valley area just north of Pittsburg, The heart of steel territory, or used to be anyways. My cousins are all rabid Pirates/Steeler fans. small world. nice model Karen - thanks for sharing it Mark Miller Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:37:31 -0400 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Wheels of the RAF, Crossley Tender Message-ID: Folkl, The Australian Society of WWI Aero Historians did an update to their site including an article on modeling the Crossley Tender from last years Journal; http://asww1ah.topcities.com/crossley.htm The ASWWIAH Website main page is at; http://asww1ah.topcities.com/ cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:29:24 -0400 From: "Tom Sollers" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Wheels of the RAF, Crossley Tender Message-ID: <200104211330.f3LDUf127689@mail.bcpl.net> Cameron: Thanks! Very nice article. This is wonderful! I feel like a kind in a candy store! So many years going it alone, and now connectivity. Everyone is so knowledgeable and supportive. Thanks again! Tom ---------- >From: "cameron rile" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Wheels of the RAF, Crossley Tender >Date: Sat, Apr 21, 2001, 8:38 AM > >Folkl, > > The Australian Society of WWI Aero Historians >did an update to their site including an article >on modeling the Crossley Tender from last years >Journal; > > http://asww1ah.topcities.com/crossley.htm > >The ASWWIAH Website main page is at; > > http://asww1ah.topcities.com/ > > > > > >cam >AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ > > > >________________________________________ >Get your email at >http://www.prontomail.com > ------------------------------ Date: 21 Apr 2001 06:44:45 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Jasta tents Message-ID: <20010421134445.13328.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> Hi all I was wondering if any one has any information on the tents used to protect German AC. There are quite a few photos and I can probably get a general idea of their construction and shape with a little effort. But a set of plans would make it easier I want to try modeling this digitaly but it occurs to me that I don't think I have ever seen this structure modeled at all, It would make a wonderful diorama. Although I'm not sure what technique you would use to model it. I suppose you would have to build up the framework and find some kind of paper or cloth which could be draped over the structure and then wetted down to try simulate hung canvas. Anyone ever try something like this? Modeling this kind of thing digitaly should be interesting - I'm not sure how to do it yet, but I feel a need to try to simulate folded/hanging canvas. and the textures should be a lot of fun. Unfortunately, I don't think my software can simulate the difuse light that passes through canvas so interior images would be problematic. Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3302 **********************