WWI Digest 3285 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: a Q to the real pilots by "Allen H Besser" 2) RE: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar by Shane Weier 3) Bill Arnold's Pfalz D.IIIa by "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" 4) Re: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= 5) Re: Gothas? over London 13 June 1917 by KarrArt@aol.com 6) RE: the quality of paint was RE: Jasta 11 Red by "dfernet0" 7) RE: Back Home by "dfernet0" 8) RE: Neil's Ni.28 and Michael's Ni.17 by "dfernet0" 9) RE: New images online by Crawford Neil 10) RE: New images online by Crawford Neil 11) Finnish markings was RE: Neil's Ni.28 and Michael's Ni.17 by Crawford Neil 12) RE: New images online by "dfernet0" 13) Re: Ernest by "Mike Dicianna" 14) RE: New images online by Crawford Neil 15) RE: Ernest by Crawford Neil 16) Re: echo by "Lee J. Mensinger" 17) Revell N28 RE: New images online by "dfernet0" 18) Re: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Argentina by "Lee J. Mensinger" 19) Neil's DH4A was Re: Neil's Ni.28 by David Fleming 20) RE: Ernest by "Mark Shannon" 21) RE: Neil's DH4A was Re: Neil's Ni.28 by Crawford Neil 22) RE: Ernest by mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) 23) Ernest by MAnde72343@aol.com 24) Welcome Back Karen by MAnde72343@aol.com 25) RE: Revell N28 RE: New images online by Crawford Neil 26) Re: DH5 Presentation Markings by "Lance Krieg" 27) Re: echo by "Allen H Besser" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:40:06 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: a Q to the real pilots Message-ID: <01c101c0c709$3ee98ba0$255b143f@compaq-computer> Gaston: Still getting caught up with my e-mail after my week's vacation. Up to April 4 now. Glad to see your mention of BEER. Now if there were only a list on micro-brewed beer I could get 200 e-mail messages per day. Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: Gaston Graf To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:49 PM Subject: a Q to the real pilots >Friends, > >how did you feel after your first flying lessons? I noticed that I feel >really happy but also I feel quite a bit exhausted when on the ground again. >Last time I flew for about 75 min (turns, basic handling, two touch and go's >etc) and by the end of the lesson my instructor said to me that I am growing >tired - that guy really notices every little mistake :o). >The same effect I noticed as I took my first car driving lesson and later as >I drove locomtives for the first hours. I felt well, but mentally exhausted. >After my last flying lesson I felt so exhausted that I really needed a cold >beer. That was like a recovery drink for my brain. There's really no better >medecine than beer ;o). > >happy landings > > Gaston Graf >(ggraf@vo.lu) >Meet the Royal Prussian Fighter Squadron 2 "Boelcke" at: >http://www.jastaboelcke.de > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:44:12 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748F27@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Al, > Still getting caught up from my weeks vacation. Up to April > 4 now. As > a newbie I didn't really understand this. does a rotary engine rotate > COUNTER to the propeller???? Nope, *with* the propellor, which is actually bolted to the crankcase, while the crankshaft is bolted to the aircraft. (there is an exception of course, as always!) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:58:01 +0200 From: "a.casirati@cornali-trasporti.it" To: "Wwi Modeling List (Posta elettronica)" Subject: Bill Arnold's Pfalz D.IIIa Message-ID: <43EB244779F3D411966E0060082C59E901476F@SERVER1> Excellent Pfalz, Bill, and very nice pictures, too. Well done ! Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:28:47 +0800 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Volker_H=E4usler?= To: Subject: Re: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar Message-ID: <012201c0c710$0db8e880$7f01010a@jaring.my> Shane said: > > Still getting caught up from my weeks vacation. Up to April > > 4 now. As > > a newbie I didn't really understand this. does a rotary engine rotate > > COUNTER to the propeller???? > > Nope, *with* the propellor, which is actually bolted to the crankcase, while > the crankshaft is bolted to the aircraft. (there is an exception of course, > as always!) The most famous exception being the *geared* (effectifly a reverse reduction gearing) Siemens Halske rotaries, especially the the final SH IIIa, which were counter-rotating. The reduction gear enabled higher revolutions of the engine as well as a partial balancing of the torque. Speaking of the SH IIIa and our recent engine discussion, this engine had a compression ratio of 1:6, which (together with the lubrication problems mentioned by Mark) might be one of the main factors causing the prottacted development period. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:43:55 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gothas? over London 13 June 1917 Message-ID: <8a.53327d1.280d4e3b@aol.com> In a message dated 4/16/01 7:24:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no writes: << The British aircraft and airmen trying to stop the German aircraft are described in Putnams "The Air Defence of Britain 1914-18". But, the book just state that the attacking force consisted of 20 Gothas......... Are there any sources as to which German units that took part, if there were just Gothas and not a mixed formations and were there any casualties / wounded gunners reported among the returning aircraft?....>> Kagohl 3 was the unit. 20 Gothas set out, three turned back for various reasons, the other 17 completed the mission and all landed safely. The best account of this raid is in 'The Sky On Fire' by Major Raymond Fredette originally published in 1966, and several paperback editions have been released since, subtitled "The First Battle of Britain'. I guess it's what you could call the "classic" on the topic. Oh- and for more on Capt T.Grant alias Tryggve Gran, see Cross and Cockade (Int) vol24 no1, 1993. RK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:45:37 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: the quality of paint was RE: Jasta 11 Red Message-ID: <001101c0c723$28db0900$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Gasterix wrote: > Ooops, I drove Hondas too for 9 years... My first one was an '78 Prelude I > bought in very clean condition with only 48,000km but it rusted away right > under my butt... I guess that you needed a change of diet, my friend! ;-) D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:22:23 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Back Home Message-ID: <00bb01c0c728$4b6c9380$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Hi Karen! Good to see you back! Wich new kits you got? Do you mind to do in-box reviews? D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:28:25 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Neil's Ni.28 and Michael's Ni.17 Message-ID: <011301c0c731$84eca4c0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> They sure look neat! Those swastikas on a model would surely dazzle more than a bunch of judges in any model contest. "Hey, what's that nazi biplane?" D. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Neil's Ni.28 and Michael's Ni.17 > I just added several more profiles to my pages, including a Finnish > Nieuport 17 with no less than 14 swastikas... > > Mike F. > http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/Nprofiles.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:34:07 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New images online Message-ID: Thank you very much för your help Matt, I know how busy you are. Have the next bunch of Nieuport IV and Phönix museum pics arrived yet? /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Bittner [mailto:tbittners@sprintmail.com] > Sent: den 14 april 2001 19:21 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: New images online > > > Sorry it took so long, Neil, but I finally posted images of three of > Neil's excellent models on the site. > > I still have one more modeler's images to move up - hopefully > soon, but > time will tell... > > > Matt Bittner > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:37:49 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New images online Message-ID: Thank you Diego, looking forward to seeing your version, I wish I had the energy to correct all the faults, like you are doing. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 16 april 2001 14:15 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: New images online > > > That Nieuport 28 is a great inspiration! Excellent Neil! > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matt Bittner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 2:20 PM > Subject: New images online > > > > Sorry it took so long, Neil, but I finally posted images of three of > > Neil's excellent models on the site. > > > > I still have one more modeler's images to move up - > hopefully soon, but > > time will tell... > > > > > > Matt Bittner > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:53:42 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Finnish markings was RE: Neil's Ni.28 and Michael's Ni.17 Message-ID: The profiles are lovely, I like the portugese and Brazilian ones even better. I should hope the judges know about Finnish swastikas. I was amused at the Swedish AF museum that they had prepared a long explanation about the origin of the swastika, and why it is on two Swedish a/c at the museum (Hart and Gladiator). I'm not sure if it's correct but as I understand it, this was Gustaf(?) Von Rosen's personal good luck symbol, and Von Rosen was involved in the start-up of the Finnish air-force, so they adopted it (until 1945). There is an OT connection here because Goering married Karin von Rosen (sister or daughter to Von Rosen I think) when he was in Sweden, and without being sure I think that's where the Nazi's got the symbol from. And just to mix things up even more, another von Rosen, the black sheep of the family was responsible for the Biafran air force flying MFI-17's. And to get this over to football, the swedish champions have always received "von Rosens pokal" which is a big silver cup, till last year, when they realised he was a Nazi, and now present them with a "Lennart Johansson pokal" instead, now that's PC! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 17 april 2001 13:30 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: Neil's Ni.28 and Michael's Ni.17 > > > They sure look neat! > Those swastikas on a model would surely dazzle more than a > bunch of judges > in any model contest. "Hey, what's that nazi biplane?" > D. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: Neil's Ni.28 and Michael's Ni.17 > > > > I just added several more profiles to my pages, including a Finnish > > Nieuport 17 with no less than 14 swastikas... > > > > Mike F. > > http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/Nprofiles.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:15:40 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: New images online Message-ID: <016601c0c738$1e2dfc00$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Neil! I'm still struggling, and the prospect is danting. I guess that Ik I would do this plane on a bigger scale where the kit errors are more visible, I would have quit and go hunting a Blue Max specimen. I like this picture where an instrument can be seen http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Crawford/Allied/nie28_4.jpg and where the neat paint finish is evident. How did you do to avoid erasing the fuselage stringer when closing the fuselage parts? My kit has some gaps on the spine, maybe because the halves were a bit flawed. I can disguise this making a longer headrest, but I haven't decided yet. How did you treated the wing surfaces? Did you sanded all the ribs down and restored the detail or just left it as it was? Sorry to ask too much! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:43 AM Subject: RE: New images online > Thank you Diego, looking forward to seeing your version, I wish I had the > energy to > correct all the faults, like you are doing. > /Neil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:46:24 -0700 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: Subject: Re: Ernest Message-ID: <00b601c0c73c$6a96b240$27adefd8@pavilion> I know we all wish for a quick recovery for the heritic! I'm sure he has the nurses in a dither trying to keep him from sanding on a fuselage in his hospital bed. Get well my friend, MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > Ernest is in the hospital. He thought he was having a heart attack, but > it turned out to be a collapsed lung. > snip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:47:16 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: New images online Message-ID: I sanded both fuselage sides, just lika a vacform, to get as good a join as possible. Then tube-glue, which fills a little. Then I cleaned up with 600 sandpaper very carefully, finally I restored what little detail I lost with sandpaper rolled into a tube. This is the classic way of sanding out stringer-detail, when you don't want to go the St.Harry (straight and narrow) path. I am not satisfied with the rear fuselage, it's too slim, and the stringer detail is over-exagerated, but I can live with it. Alberto suggested sanding down the top wing surfaces, and replacing the rib-tapes, I didn't do this because I hadn't done the rear fuselage, and I thought the wings were better. it's a bit like renovating an old motorbike, as soon as you fix one bit, something else looks bad. Where do you stop?! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 17 april 2001 14:15 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: New images online > > > Neil! > I'm still struggling, and the prospect is danting. I guess > that Ik I would > do this plane on a bigger scale where the kit errors are more > visible, I > would have quit and go hunting a Blue Max specimen. > I like this picture where an instrument can be seen > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Crawford/Allied/nie28_4.jpg > and where the > neat paint finish is evident. How did you do to avoid erasing > the fuselage > stringer when closing the fuselage parts? My kit has some > gaps on the spine, > maybe because the halves were a bit flawed. I can disguise > this making a > longer headrest, but I haven't decided yet. > How did you treated the wing surfaces? Did you sanded all the > ribs down and > restored the detail or just left it as it was? > Sorry to ask too much! > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:53:28 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Ernest Message-ID: And I second that, get well quick Ernest. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Dicianna [mailto:mikedc@dnc.net] > Sent: den 17 april 2001 14:52 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: Ernest > > > I know we all wish for a quick recovery for the heritic! > > I'm sure he has the nurses in a dither trying to keep him from sanding > on a fuselage in his hospital bed. > > Get well my friend, > > MikeDC > "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > > > > Ernest is in the hospital. He thought he was having a > heart attack, but > > it turned out to be a collapsed lung. > snip > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:55:45 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: echo Message-ID: <3ADC3D51.537AE69F@x25.net> Usually you have to ask for that to happen. It is in the FAQ. I do not know the command to make it stop. It is under: Posting Articles, Sec. 2. b Seeing your own posts. Lee M. DAVID BURKE wrote: > Hey Y'all, > > Are you guys getting your messages echoed to you? I hate having to > re-read the crap that I write! > > DB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:07:09 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: Revell N28 RE: New images online Message-ID: <02a001c0c73f$501081a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Thanks for the advice Neil... Certainly, I tought on replacing the aft fuselage, but I made test with some card paper but never got it as perfect as to make it better than the kit part. I'm cool with just improving the pilot's office. I think that I'll sand the wing surfaces, as Alberto did, altough I won't correct the chord of the wings. If Matt can live with that I can do it as well! I haven't finished the front fuselage replacement (those small holes require concentration) but I did a replacement firewall and cut the oil tank behind the engine. It was very easy and I did it with scrap plastic. It looks so cute that I may left the cowling un- attached to the rest of the airframe. Now, to place the front U/C legs below it will require extreme neatness! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Crawford Neil To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:52 AM Subject: RE: New images online > I sanded both fuselage sides, just lika a vacform, to get as good > a join as possible. Then tube-glue, which fills a little. Then I > cleaned up with 600 sandpaper very carefully, finally I restored > what little detail I lost with sandpaper rolled into a tube. This > is the classic way of sanding out stringer-detail, when you don't > want to go the St.Harry (straight and narrow) path. I am not > satisfied with the rear fuselage, it's too slim, and the stringer > detail is over-exagerated, but I can live with it. Alberto suggested > sanding down the top wing surfaces, and replacing the rib-tapes, > I didn't do this because I hadn't done the rear fuselage, and I > thought the wings were better. it's a bit like renovating an old > motorbike, as soon as you fix one bit, something else looks bad. > Where do you stop?! > /Neil > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > > Sent: den 17 april 2001 14:15 > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: RE: New images online > > > > > > Neil! > > I'm still struggling, and the prospect is danting. I guess > > that Ik I would > > do this plane on a bigger scale where the kit errors are more > > visible, I > > would have quit and go hunting a Blue Max specimen. > > I like this picture where an instrument can be seen > > http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Crawford/Allied/nie28_4.jpg > > and where the > > neat paint finish is evident. How did you do to avoid erasing > > the fuselage > > stringer when closing the fuselage parts? My kit has some > > gaps on the spine, > > maybe because the halves were a bit flawed. I can disguise > > this making a > > longer headrest, but I haven't decided yet. > > How did you treated the wing surfaces? Did you sanded all the > > ribs down and > > restored the detail or just left it as it was? > > Sorry to ask too much! > > D. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:03:42 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Argentina Message-ID: <3ADC3F2E.9CD19A1E@x25.net> Yes...If it is a Siemens Halske made late in the war. It was installed in the Siemens -Schukert D-III. One of the most powerful rotaries ever built but prone to frequent failure. I believe the D-III set some altitude records with that engine and it did in fact rotate opposite to the propeller. A neat trick and complicated. Lee M Allen H Besser wrote: > Still getting caught up from my weeks vacation. Up to April 4 now. As > a newbie I didn't really understand this. does a rotary engine rotate > COUNTER to the propeller???? > > Al Besser > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 2:37 PM > Subject: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in > Argentina > > >Brent! > >As you may have imagined I spent many boring reunions at work musing > about > >this... And still boggles the mind to imagine a small mechanism to > achieve > >this, hidden inside the stubby Siemens-Schukert fuselage. Of course, as > I'm > >modeling an Albatros with a stationary Mercedes engine it has saved me > from > >such deliriums. For now. > >The device for counter rotation must be a simple gear system, but who > would > >be capable to do that from scratch. It would need of a clockwork > machinery > >inside. Maybe when I decide to do the Toko SS D.III I'll have to become > >friend of a clockmaker. > >D. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Brent Theobald >> > >> "PS: Yesterday I had to accept the rules of life and I'll leave the > >Albatros > >> D.II propeller unable to spin." > >> > >> The hard part is getting the engine to counter-rotate :) > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:26:22 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Neil's DH4A was Re: Neil's Ni.28 Message-ID: <3ADC447E.F8EE27A6@dial.pipex.com> Neil, How did you do the rear fuselage extension on your DH4A ? This one is on my 'maybe this year' list, perhaps with the Pegasus kit. I'm trying to work out the best way, and am curious for ideas. My current thought is to carve a former from wood and plunge mould the upper fuselage. Any thoughts welcome !! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:40:43 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: RE: Ernest Message-ID: I hope you will please add my wishes for a speedy recovery. I know how painful that is. Hope to see you back soon, Ernest. .Mark. P.S. I just found out an amazing and unlovely fact about the listproc software - it stops e-mails that start with 'Please Add' , sends them back as errors, and inquires whether they should have been sent to the Listreq processor. It does send its apologies if this was done in error on its part, however. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:42:58 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Neil's DH4A was Re: Neil's Ni.28 Message-ID: Hi Dave, I cut this out of an article I wrote for "Bent throttles", the Racer-SIG magazine, I think plunge moulding would be more correct, but I'm lazy so I did it by cheating, thus: " I started by cutting out two side panels för the rear fuselage, I was lucky enough to have a photo exactly from the side and to 1/72 scale, so I started by trying to get the windows right, then I cut out the shape approximately. The roof was made of a flat piece bent to shape. I used thick plasticard for this because I planned on a lot of sanding. I stuck the two side panels on each cut-down rear fuselage and then concentrated on the interior, I over-detailed the cockpit in my usual fashion, then I built up a rear cockpit interior using marquetry wood, its really just two holes with armchairs in, I faked it up as well as I could. Then I could glue the fuselage sides together, the roof onto the rear compartment, and also a small panel on the compartment front where it blends into the rear of the pilots cockpit. I use tube cement so as to get a good joint that won't fall apart when sanding, which is the next step, once it's thoroughly dry. The whole mess was sanded into a nice rounded off shape, this was easy because of the thick plastic. I couldn't think of a better way of simulating the cloth covering than to simply sand grooves in it with rolled-up sandpaper, covering with thin scored plastic won't work because of the convex curvature." /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: David Fleming [mailto:dave.fleming@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: den 17 april 2001 15:36 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Neil's DH4A was Re: Neil's Ni.28 > > > Neil, > > How did you do the rear fuselage extension on your DH4A ? > This one is on my > 'maybe this year' list, perhaps with the Pegasus kit. > > I'm trying to work out the best way, and am curious for > ideas. My current > thought is to carve a former from wood and plunge mould the > upper fuselage. > > Any thoughts welcome !! > > Dave > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:47:58 -0500 From: mflake@tarrantcounty.com (Flake, Marc) To: Subject: RE: Ernest Message-ID: Just want to add my hopes for a full recovery. Although E. may not want to be too speedy about it -- he may get the opportunity to indulge in some quality modeling time while he's recuperating. Only I hope he won't have to avoid the fumes of the solvents we all use . . . hmmmmm. There's always scraping a vacuform or two. Also, this would be a GREAT time to quit smoking. I quit in '94 after 25 years of the habit. Still miss the nicotine, but I don't miss anything else -- especially the part where I felt enslaved to an addiction. Thoughts are with you E. Marc (who is just starting his Sopwith project) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:48:48 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Ernest Message-ID: <67.12c2f822.280da3c0@aol.com> Here's to a speedy recovery for EvH, I hope withdrawal (from cigarettes) doesn't make him more cranky (if that's possible) Merrill Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:50:36 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Welcome Back Karen Message-ID: --part1_c0.12cc1ef3.280da42c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome back! And from another amateur Mayanist, I envy you your adventure. Merrill --part1_c0.12cc1ef3.280da42c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome back! And from another amateur Mayanist, I envy you your adventure.
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--part1_c0.12cc1ef3.280da42c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:11:49 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Revell N28 RE: New images online Message-ID: I'd sure like to see some pictures of that Diego, as to the wings and rear fuselage, I think you're doing the right thing, some day Eduard might release a good kit, then we can all do another one! I thought about skinning the rear fuselage, but gave up, it would be too difficult. /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] > Sent: den 17 april 2001 15:07 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Revell N28 RE: New images online > > > Thanks for the advice Neil... > Certainly, I tought on replacing the aft fuselage, but I made > test with some > card paper but never got it as perfect as to make it better > than the kit > part. I'm cool with just improving the pilot's office. > I think that I'll sand the wing surfaces, as Alberto did, > altough I won't > correct the chord of the wings. If Matt can live with that I > can do it as > well! > I haven't finished the front fuselage replacement (those > small holes require > concentration) but I did a replacement firewall and cut the > oil tank behind > the engine. It was very easy and I did it with scrap plastic. > It looks so > cute that I may left the cowling un- attached to the rest of > the airframe. > Now, to place the front U/C legs below it will require > extreme neatness! > D. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:34:24 -0500 From: "Lance Krieg" To: Subject: Re: DH5 Presentation Markings Message-ID: Philippe has supplied the full list of presentation DH5s. Here is what else I could dig up on A'9507 in CC(I) 2/2, CC(I) 8/2: Accepted October 10, 1917 in 64 squadron, as the mount of Captain ER Tempest, A flight commander. Flight commander's AC in A flight was marked "E", which was turned into "Elsa" as noted by Steve Perry. Captain Tempest shot down an Alb D.V in this plane on November 30. This DH5 survived the war, and was still in store in January, 1919. The same bad picture shows up in CC(I) 2/2 (captioned as an SE5a!) and in the new British Squadron markings book. Les Rogers is attributed as the source of this picture. The caption says "Christchurch Old Boys Club", but I could not make out any of the words except "Christchurch" and "Club" in either print, try as I might. I did not see, in perusing hundreds of presentation titles, any other planes of any type that were the gift of an "old boys club". Of course there were many, many gifts from various branches of the "Overseas" club. I think I'd use "Overseas" instead of "Old Boys", as this was the official title. "Old Boys Club" seems a lot more interesting, though... HTH Lance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:36:18 -0400 From: "Allen H Besser" To: Subject: Re: echo Message-ID: <000801c0c74b$c5f33960$ca5b143f@compaq-computer> YES! I guess I'm not the only one :-( Al Besser -----Original Message----- From: Shane Weier To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:32 AM Subject: RE: echo >DB > > >> Are you guys getting your messages echoed to you? I hate >> having to re-read the crap that I write! > >Us too. > >;-) > >Hey, DB, I actually *ask* the list server to echo my emails so that I know >they got there, and that my email system is working - to do this I send an >email to the list server saying > >set wwi mail ack > >...so I guess that if you want the opposite it'd be an idea to try to send >the list server.. > >set wwi mail noack > >..if you wish to be spared ;-) > >Shane > > > >********************************************************************** >The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is >intended only for the use of the addressee(s). >If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or >copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to >forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the >MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. > >e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au >phone: Australia 1800500646 >********************************************************************** > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3285 **********************