WWI Digest 3276 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: engines by Michael and Sharon Alvarado 2) Re: aircrew figures by Al Superczynski 3) Re: engines by "Brian Nicklas" 4) Re: engines by Todd Hayes 5) Re: aircrew figures by "TOM PLESHA" 6) RE: engines by "Ray Boorman" 7) RE: engines by "Ray Boorman" 8) RE: DH.4 INFO sent by who? by "Ray Boorman" 9) Re: engines by "DAVID BURKE" 10) Re: engines by "DAVID BURKE" 11) Re: engines by "DAVID BURKE" 12) Re: OtF in SD wasRe: DH.4 INFO sent by who? by "Limon3" 13) Re: 1 Sqn AFC Handley Page by "D Charles" 14) RE: engines by Brent Theobald 15) Re: Aurora Albatross by j@prendergast.tc 16) Missing Presumed Missing by LEONARDPeterL@aol.com 17) Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511 by davidbac 18) Re: Missing Presumed Missing by "DAVID BURKE" 19) RE: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511 by Brent Theobald 20) RE:Glencoe SPAD book by John_Impenna@hyperion.com 21) Re: engines by "Hans Trauner" 22) Halberstadt photos was: Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) by "Hans Trauner" 23) ot Biplane Model Question by Brent Theobald 24) Re: ot Biplane Model Question by Allan Wright 25) RE: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511 by "Ray Boorman" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:53:21 -0400 From: Michael and Sharon Alvarado To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: engines Message-ID: <3AD65C11.FD527709@verizon.net> Ford spelled backwards is drof - Driver returns on foot. Alvie Brian Nicklas wrote: > I still am amazed at the number of BMW drivers who don't know the emblem is > a spinning propeller in salute to WWI aero engines (there - I'm OT) > Chrysler (nee Daimler-Chrysler) is also known as MOPAR > or: Many Odd Parts Assembled Rapidly > Ford is of course First On Race Day (or if you are anti Fixed Or Repaired > Daily) > Can't remember the one for Chevy/Bowtie. > First car, 1965 BMW 1800, then 1967 Ford Mustang, 1985 Ford EXP (2 seat > Escort), now 1998 Ford Mustang. > A few folks I work with drive BMWs with Albatros werke logos in the rear > windows (leftover seconds from the Albatros D.Va restoration - and no there > aren't any more - I asked!!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:32:36 -0500 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: aircrew figures Message-ID: <29pcdt0ddclq3f2obdu7ck81eeq7al2fq4@4ax.com> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:19:22 -0400 (EDT), Tom wrote: >...there are some 1/72 cast aircrew figures on e-bay... Got the URL? ;) Al ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:37:55 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: engines Message-ID: Wrong. That stupid movie got it wrong too - ... Um, movie? What movie - I read it in a history of the company back in 74 when I had my 1800. But then, ya can't believe everything you read.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:39:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: engines Message-ID: <20010413023918.27778.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Found on Road Dead --- Michael and Sharon Alvarado wrote: > Ford spelled backwards is drof - Driver returns on > foot. > > Alvie > > Brian Nicklas wrote: > > > I still am amazed at the number of BMW drivers who > don't know the emblem is > > a spinning propeller in salute to WWI aero engines > (there - I'm OT) > > Chrysler (nee Daimler-Chrysler) is also known as > MOPAR > > or: Many Odd Parts Assembled Rapidly > > Ford is of course First On Race Day (or if you are > anti Fixed Or Repaired > > Daily) > > Can't remember the one for Chevy/Bowtie. > > First car, 1965 BMW 1800, then 1967 Ford Mustang, > 1985 Ford EXP (2 seat > > Escort), now 1998 Ford Mustang. > > A few folks I work with drive BMWs with Albatros > werke logos in the rear > > windows (leftover seconds from the Albatros D.Va > restoration - and no there > > aren't any more - I asked!!) > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:50:14 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: aircrew figures Message-ID: <000b01c0c3c4$77a85220$f3404c0c@tom> Hi Al- use: http://listings.ebay.com/aw/listings/list/category1189/index.html then use the search at the top for: figures this will bring up 3-4 sets in 1/72, 2 german, 1 british, etc. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Superczynski" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:38 PM Subject: Re: aircrew figures > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:19:22 -0400 (EDT), Tom wrote: > > >...there are some 1/72 cast aircrew figures on e-bay... > > Got the URL? ;) > > Al > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:06:32 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: engines Message-ID: Along with the fact that the engine that BMW have had in production the logest would probably be the Horizontally opposed twin used in BMW's bread and butter of many hard times there motorcycles. More than 75 years since the first twin was put in a motorcycle. Designed by the same designer of those infamous wwi 6 cyclinder engines, who they managed to keep by promising him a heater in his office. Ray (Just reminding everyone that BMW has long been regarded as the finest long distance motorcycle bar none.) > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Brian > Nicklas > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:10 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: RE: engines > > > > I still am amazed at the number of BMW drivers who don't know the > emblem is > a spinning propeller in salute to WWI aero engines (there - I'm OT) > Chrysler (nee Daimler-Chrysler) is also known as MOPAR > or: Many Odd Parts Assembled Rapidly > Ford is of course First On Race Day (or if you are anti Fixed Or Repaired > Daily) > Can't remember the one for Chevy/Bowtie. > First car, 1965 BMW 1800, then 1967 Ford Mustang, 1985 Ford EXP (2 seat > Escort), now 1998 Ford Mustang. > A few folks I work with drive BMWs with Albatros werke logos in the rear > windows (leftover seconds from the Albatros D.Va restoration - > and no there > aren't any more - I asked!!) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:21:27 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: engines Message-ID: Depending on who you talk to and who's history you read, both stories are put forth as the reason for the Emblem. BMW themselves have quoted both at different times too. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Brian > Nicklas > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 7:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: engines > > > > > Wrong. That stupid movie got it wrong too - ... > > Um, movie? What movie - I read it in a history of the company back in 74 > when I had my 1800. > But then, ya can't believe everything you read.... > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:25:27 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: DH.4 INFO sent by who? Message-ID: As Bob already knows I'm going. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Bob > Pearson > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:46 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: DH.4 INFO sent by who? > > > Mike Muth says ... > > > That would have been me. Glad the stuff helped. > > Mike Muth...who refuses to stop using work envelopes for mail ;-) > > Scared the bejesus out of me to get a letter from a courthouse in PA ... > after all Dave and I only spent an afternoon in the state, I > didn't think we > got into that much trouble .. > > Bob > recalling it was a year ago today we arrived in Pensacola for the OTF > seminar ... so who's up for San Diego in September? > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:36:52 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: engines Message-ID: <001d01c0c3cb$88b7d3e0$a7a31e3f@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Nicklas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: Re: engines > > > Wrong. That stupid movie got it wrong too - ... > > Um, movie? What movie - I read it in a history of the company back in 74 > when I had my 1800. > But then, ya can't believe everything you read.... > > I think it was 'Finding Forrester', or Forrest Gump, or something. I'm not disputing that the relationship between the olden days of BMW's engine manufacture was made, nor that there were ads linking the prop and the logo. However, the blue and white are the symbol of Bavaria. But whatever should I know? I've been busy with an F-105 to get some modeling perspective and a teeny break from the Gotha (while I'm casting 7 50Kg bombs for it). At least the F-105 has Snoopy on his doghouse painted on the side - that's nice. Always liked the Thud - reminds me of the Brisfit: big, not very pretty but really cool-looking, and one hell of a great combat airplane! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:39:32 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: engines Message-ID: <001e01c0c3cb$89bb3a20$a7a31e3f@oemcomputer> Fix It Again Tony (FIAT) Bring Many Wrenches (BMW) Tried to think of one for Saturn - must include something about the engine blowing up after 90,000 miles... DB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Hayes" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Re: engines > Found on Road Dead > > > --- Michael and Sharon Alvarado > wrote: > > Ford spelled backwards is drof - Driver returns on > > foot. > > > > Alvie > > > > Brian Nicklas wrote: > > > > > I still am amazed at the number of BMW drivers who > > don't know the emblem is > > > a spinning propeller in salute to WWI aero engines > > (there - I'm OT) > > > Chrysler (nee Daimler-Chrysler) is also known as > > MOPAR > > > or: Many Odd Parts Assembled Rapidly > > > Ford is of course First On Race Day (or if you are > > anti Fixed Or Repaired > > > Daily) > > > Can't remember the one for Chevy/Bowtie. > > > First car, 1965 BMW 1800, then 1967 Ford Mustang, > > 1985 Ford EXP (2 seat > > > Escort), now 1998 Ford Mustang. > > > A few folks I work with drive BMWs with Albatros > > werke logos in the rear > > > windows (leftover seconds from the Albatros D.Va > > restoration - and no there > > > aren't any more - I asked!!) > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:40:25 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: engines Message-ID: <001f01c0c3cb$8aadd780$a7a31e3f@oemcomputer> > > Ray (Just reminding everyone that BMW has long been regarded as the finest > long distance motorcycle bar none.) > Gotta agree - damned fine motorcycles! DB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 21:44:37 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: OtF in SD wasRe: DH.4 INFO sent by who? Message-ID: <01e201c0c3d5$f6dcf4e0$b4f3303f@i7e2z6> Me too, Gabe ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: OtF in SD wasRe: DH.4 INFO sent by who? > In a message dated 4/12/01 9:43:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > bpearson@rapidnet.net writes: > > << so who's up for San Diego in September? >> > > gonna try to make it! > RK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:54:52 +1000 From: "D Charles" To: Subject: Re: 1 Sqn AFC Handley Page Message-ID: <004201c0c3d6$7a6aa140$5829d7d2@Charls> > I don't have it (and in fact don't have much reference on the 0/100 at all > but I have to point out that I'm only interested in the *specific* aircraft > flown by Ross Smith at 1AFC - trying to determine how standard it was (or > was not), in fittings and finish. > > Shane See "One Airman's War" page 127. Bowyer's HP book has 4 photos of C9681 O/400 which show limited detail. My copies of TE Lawrence's books have no photos of the HP. There's a great painting by Reid of the HP landing amongst the arabs but I don't think it's a reliable source. The Bowyer does show the standard PROP warning on the foward underside hatch of C9681; the light and dark wheel covers that Cam mentioned, and, DIFFERENT props. The s'brd prop has fabric covering almost to the hub(see Joe Bull p127). The port prop has is covered from tip to about mid-blade. David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:10:25 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: engines Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608F51@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C3D8.0C9E5830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy! >>(Just reminding everyone that BMW has long been >>regarded as the finestlong distance motorcycle bar >>none.) >Gotta agree - damned fine motorcycles! Ditto! Later! Brent (who's been promised a K1200RS from SWMBO. I hope I get one!) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C3D8.0C9E5830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: engines

Howdy!



>>(Just reminding everyone that BMW has long been
>>regarded as the finestlong distance motorcycle bar
>>none.)

>Gotta agree - damned fine motorcycles!

Ditto!

Later!

Brent (who's been promised a K1200RS from SWMBO. I hope I get one!)

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C3D8.0C9E5830-- ------------------------------ Date: 13 Apr 2001 05:23:05 -0000 From: j@prendergast.tc To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Aurora Albatross Message-ID: <20010413052305.31587.qmail@www2.nameplanet.com> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:54:40 -0400 (EDT) KarrArt@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/11/01 6:30:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar writes: > ><< As i've read the kit is basically innacurate, as it has features of both > D.III and D.V. To collect, seems fine, for building an accurate replica it > should be a lot of work. > I've never seen one "in the flesh" so I can't say by that my own experience, > but I've read several Rimell's comments. > D. > >> > >It vaguely resembles an Albatros single seater. The SMER version can >sometimes be picked up for cheap- and it's worth it for parts for >scratchbuilding. >RK > Building two at the moment... both SMER kits. One has Goering and Voss decals, the other has Czech and Polish decals. OK, maybe they are not too accurate but I wish I had another dozen of 'em. Am building one as per Bassenge of Jasta 2, the other as Berthold of Jasta 14, both featured profiles No. 4 and 18 in Osprey "Albatros Aces" book. J -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 03:14:52 EDT From: LEONARDPeterL@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Missing Presumed Missing Message-ID: <27.13de8b4c.2808016c@aol.com> Flipping through the December '99 SAM in an idle moment the future releases caught my eye. The outstanding OT news for me was the supposed imminent re-release of the Dragon "Knights of the Sky " series and the Hobbycraft 1/32 SPAD promised for 2000. Does anyone know what happened? Are they buried on the same grassy knoll as the Glencoe DH4? The truth is out there and there's usually a listee who's in on the gag. cheers Peter L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:33:49 +1000 From: davidbac To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511 Message-ID: <3AD6D60C.6C7F6944@ozonline.com.au> Dear all; Hi, I'm new to the list although I've 'listened in" from the Digest for some time. I'm currently working up research for my SE5a project of Maj. Roderick Dallas'* (40 Sqn CO) No. 3511. There is one photo extant of this aircraft - Cameron has kindly sent me a copy - and I believe its in a Windsock pub as well. Squadron Pubs "SE5a in Action" has a colour impression of it also. My question is What are the elements of the colour scheme for the plane and how can I achieve them in available paints (or mixes thereof)? *A high scoring RFC Australian ace (either 39 or 56 - depending on who you believe). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:50:39 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: Missing Presumed Missing Message-ID: <001301c0c420$c547f9c0$9b101a3f@oemcomputer> > Flipping through the December '99 SAM in an idle moment the future releases > caught my eye. The outstanding OT news for me was the supposed imminent > re-release of the Dragon "Knights of the Sky " series and the Hobbycraft 1/32 > SPAD promised for 2000. Does anyone know what happened? Are they buried on > the same grassy knoll as the Glencoe DH4? The truth is out there and there's > usually a listee who's in on the gag. > > cheers > > Peter L Flying saucers. DB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:02:05 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511 Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608F58@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C422.525C5990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy! Welcome aboard! Unfortunately I cannot help you. Perhaps someone else will forego the "secret handshake" and help you find the info you need. Send pictures of your models to Allen! Later! Brent -----Original Message----- From: davidbac [mailto:davidbac@ozonline.com.au] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511 Dear all; Hi, I'm new to the list although I've 'listened in" from the Digest for some time. I'm currently working up research for my SE5a project of Maj. Roderick Dallas'* (40 Sqn CO) No. 3511. There is one photo extant of this aircraft - Cameron has kindly sent me a copy - and I believe its in a Windsock pub as well. Squadron Pubs "SE5a in Action" has a colour impression of it also. My question is What are the elements of the colour scheme for the plane and how can I achieve them in available paints (or mixes thereof)? *A high scoring RFC Australian ace (either 39 or 56 - depending on who you believe). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C422.525C5990 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511

Howdy!

Welcome aboard! Unfortunately I cannot help you. = Perhaps someone else will forego the "secret handshake" and = help you find the info you need.

Send pictures of your models to Allen!

Later!

Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: davidbac [mailto:davidbac@ozonline.com.au= ]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:41 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511


Dear all;

Hi, I'm new to the list although I've 'listened = in" from the Digest for
some time. I'm currently working up research for my = SE5a project of Maj.
Roderick Dallas'* (40 Sqn CO) No. 3511. There is one = photo extant of
this aircraft - Cameron has kindly sent me a copy - = and I believe its in
a Windsock pub as well. Squadron Pubs "SE5a in = Action" has a colour
impression of it also. My question is What are the = elements of the
colour scheme for the plane and how can I achieve = them in available
paints (or mixes thereof)?

*A high scoring RFC Australian ace (either 39 or 56 - = depending on who
you believe).

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C422.525C5990-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:01:26 -0400 From: John_Impenna@hyperion.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE:Glencoe SPAD book Message-ID: Dale Sebring writes>>I have this book & the decals are 1/48-very nice too IMHO. Dale<< The book is worth buying for the decals alone!! If you have no luck on Ebay, try Select Hobbies @ 860-633-9064. I don't know if he still has them in stock, but he had them for $11.99. No Ebay anxiety that way. The usual disclaimer, just a satisfied long time customer. Regards, John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:16:44 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: engines Message-ID: <007f01c0c424$5e30d820$e0a072d4@FRITZweb> I am pretty sure that the propeller-based logo is the correct story. They made it in 'bavarian' colors, but they did NOT use correct bavarian lozenges. Don't forget, the bavarian coat-of-arms does show white an blue lozenges, not squares. Anyway, I have asked puplicity department of BMW, Munich. I inform you, what they say. ( If they could remember! I think nowadays nobody is employed there who knows that BMW did built aircraft engines inWWI !) Hans > Brian Wrote: > > > > I still am amazed at the number of BMW drivers who don't know the emblem > is > > a spinning propeller in salute to WWI aero engines (there - I'm OT) > > > Wrong. That stupid movie got it wrong too - my mom told me this and I > educated her about it as well:. > > The BMW emblem is NOT representative of a spinning propeller, and has > absolutely NOTHING to do with airplane engines. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:17:55 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Halberstadt photos was: Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) Message-ID: <008d01c0c424$88b05c60$e0a072d4@FRITZweb> Tom, Allan has just placed them on the Photo Archive Pages .----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) > Hans, can you post those Halb photos? > > Tom Morgan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:28:51 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: ot Biplane Model Question Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608F5A@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C426.0F92E3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greetings Jastafarians! Does anyone remember seeing the old Gloster Gauntlet produced by Pegasus? There's one on Ebay I might snag, but I'll pass if it is one of their earlier, thick winged kits. I think it is, but darned if I don't like airplanes in Finnish markings. Sorry for so much ot traffic lately. The purests must be hating it! Later! Brent ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C426.0F92E3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ot Biplane Model Question

Greetings Jastafarians!

Does anyone remember seeing the old Gloster Gauntlet = produced by Pegasus? There's one on Ebay I might snag, but I'll pass if = it is one of their earlier, thick winged kits. I think it is, but = darned if I don't like airplanes in Finnish markings.

Sorry for so much ot traffic lately. The purests must = be hating it!

Later!

Brent

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C426.0F92E3A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:44:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: ot Biplane Model Question Message-ID: <200104131444.KAA27752@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Brent, Please turn off MIME in your mailer. See this link for more information: http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/MIME/index.html Thanks, Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:11:46 -0700 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511 Message-ID: Welcome to the list David. I looked through all the references I have and the only person who might shed some light on this aircraft is our own Bob Pearson. Its one the aircraft on Bobs CD. He based his profile on the In Action book btw. Bobs colours are dark green outlined over I presume PC10. The third colour is a pale brown colour I have no clue about, I would guess its a similiar colour to the brown used on Salamanders, which is what this scheme looks to be inspired by. Hopefully Bob is watching and will give an oppinion. The datafile special has the same picture as the the in action booklet. Jack bruce doesnt make any guesses on colours though. I would suspect the colours are not something you can definately say is PC10 or PC12 etc. In other words your guess will probably be as good as anyones. According to the caption in the datafile, this aircraft D3511 was flown by Dallas, but was not the aircraft he was shot down in. That was D3530. After Dallas was killed, the aircraft was flown by Gwilym Lewis at least through July of 1918. Not much help I know. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > davidbac > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 3:42 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Major Roderick Dallas Se5a 3511 > > > Dear all; > > Hi, I'm new to the list although I've 'listened in" from the Digest for > some time. I'm currently working up research for my SE5a project of Maj. > Roderick Dallas'* (40 Sqn CO) No. 3511. There is one photo extant of > this aircraft - Cameron has kindly sent me a copy - and I believe its in > a Windsock pub as well. Squadron Pubs "SE5a in Action" has a colour > impression of it also. My question is What are the elements of the > colour scheme for the plane and how can I achieve them in available > paints (or mixes thereof)? > > *A high scoring RFC Australian ace (either 39 or 56 - depending on who > you believe). > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3276 **********************