WWI Digest 3267 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Overengineering: Re: Pfalz DIII vs Spad VII by Volker Haeusler 2) RE: Anodize was SIA article in WS by Crawford Neil 3) Web updates by Allan Wright 4) RE: the sickness of the Maccies - was RE: Photo cataloguing by huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) 5) RE: the sickness of the Maccies - was RE: Photo cataloguing by huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) 6) Re: Retirement (was: A day of modelling) by huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) 7) OT: Korea Trip by Brent Theobald 8) Re: SIA article in WS by Eli Geher 9) Re: Fine Art Models by "Lance Mertz" 10) Re: Overengineering: Re: Pfalz DIII vs Spad VII by MAnde72343@aol.com 11) Harborough book by "Sanjeev Hirve" 12) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_New_1:48_A.E.G._=A0G.IV?= by "Muth and Zulick" 13) Twin lewis camels by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 14) Re: A day of modelling by "Muth and Zulick" 15) Re: Another Decal Survey by "Muth and Zulick" 16) RE: A day of modelling by "dfernet0" 17) Re: Overengineering: Re: Pfalz DIII vs Spad by "Mark Shannon" 18) RE: Harborough book by Shon Howell 19) Northern members - was Fine Art Models by knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) 20) Re: Dale Beamish by "TOM PLESHA" 21) Re: Northern members - was Fine Art Models by "Lance Mertz" 22) Re: Harborough book by "Lee J. Mensinger" 23) Re: Excellent Alberto Casirati news by "Jim Landon" 24) PFalse Pfalzes wasRe: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane by KarrArt@aol.com 25) Re: Dale Beamish by "Lee J. Mensinger" 26) Re: Blue Print Models? by "Jim Landon" 27) Re: Blue Print Models? by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 28) Re: Excellent Alberto Casirati news by "Mark Shannon" 29) Re: Twin lewis camels by "Bob Pearson" 30) Re: Northern members - was Fine Art Models by David Fleming 31) Re: Northern members - was Fine Art Models by Jan Vihonen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:00:39 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Overengineering: Re: Pfalz DIII vs Spad VII Message-ID: Hans said: "Are those Mig 29's still in service with the Luftwaffe? > /Neil To my knowledge: Yes. Waiting for the Typhoon, I suspect. Hans" more news on the (ot, I admit) JG 73 Fulcrums are under http://www.fabulousfulcrums.de/index_e.html Volker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:01:27 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Anodize was SIA article in WS Message-ID: staining aluminium is an old trick we used to do with egg-shells, I once did the tail of a F4 with egg-shell stained foil. I thought it looked good. /Neil > Howdy! > > Perhaps one of the chemists can answer this better. The > anodize process is > involves an electrical charge IIRC. I would recomend screwing > with current > in a liquid solution at home. > > However, it seems completely possible to dye, or stain > burnished aluminum > foil. > > Later! > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:15:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi Subject: Web updates Message-ID: <200104091415.KAA22912@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Listers, With Matt out - I'm doing solo admin duty.... - Added a 2 new photos to the Fokker E.III Images page. - Added 3 new Gotha images to David Burke's Model page. Enjoy, Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:03:07 -0500 From: huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: the sickness of the Maccies - was RE: Photo cataloguing Message-ID: >CRaig, > >WinTel was installed only once on my computer - that was on my test >partition during the beta test of Win98Se. >As for the rest, I never put somebody down but contrary was the case, that's >why I am quite a bit overreacting sometimes regarding remarks what a Mac >already had long before the rest of the world. > >How much do you pay for a 400Mhz Mac, compared to an 800Mhz PC? After all >that I know at least here in Europe the Macs are more expensive. > >happy Monday ;o) Just a short note: You Get What You Pay For. Just like your Mercedes. JPH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:07:50 -0500 From: huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: the sickness of the Maccies - was RE: Photo cataloguing Message-ID: >CRaig, > >WinTel was installed only once on my computer - that was on my test >partition during the beta test of Win98Se. >As for the rest, I never put somebody down but contrary was the case, that's >why I am quite a bit overreacting sometimes regarding remarks what a Mac >already had long before the rest of the world. > >How much do you pay for a 400Mhz Mac, compared to an 800Mhz PC? After all >that I know at least here in Europe the Macs are more expensive. > >happy Monday ;o) > > Gaston Graf I forgot to add, You pay a bit more for a product, it is meets your requirements, and you are happy with the performance. You have a tendency to tell others about it's attributes. That is just human nature ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:15:05 -0500 From: huggins1@swbell.net (John Huggins) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Retirement (was: A day of modelling) Message-ID: Jim, I tried the retirement gig two times, and failed both times. It is not what it is cracked up to be. You never realize how much spare time you have until you retire. About 1 week later, you realize that you had more time for hobbies when you worked full time. It doesn't seam right, but that is the way it happened, unless I was doing it wrong. I may try again in about 10 years. Besides, mid-life crises may be starting to set in and I will have to have a Corvette, wear bell bottom pants and start looking for a younger female companion. On second thought, I don't need the Corvette, Bell Bottoms or young girl, just more WWI models and friends like this crowd. John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:48:17 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: OT: Korea Trip Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608F25@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C10C.7E5A7680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy! If you are bored I put together two quick little web pages of some of what I've seen on Korea. I haven't really optimized them, so they may download slowly. http://www.rollmodels.com/Brents-Temp/trip01.htm Later! Brent ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C10C.7E5A7680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Korea Trip

Howdy!

If you are bored I put together two quick little web = pages of some of what I've seen on Korea. I haven't really optimized = them, so they may download slowly.

http://www.rollmodels.com/Brents-Temp/trip01.htm

Later!

Brent

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C10C.7E5A7680-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:59:05 -0500 From: Eli Geher To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SIA article in WS Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010409111727.02923ec0@mail.hiwaay.net> At 07:43 AM 4/9/01 -0400, Neil.Crawford wrote: >Aluminium goes dull grey very quickly, and then looks just >like those photos. Steve Rutland was talking about anodising, >I know you don't anodise aluminium, I think it's mild steel >that is anodised, but maybe they used a similar process for >dulling brand new aluminium? Anodizing is indeed used on aluminum, but not during WWI. When high strength alloys were developed in the '30s, corrosion became a problem. Initially, The alloy sheets were manufactured with a flash of pure aluminum on both surfaces (Alclad). Anodizing came into use during WW2 and has since been largely superceded by proprietary chemical treatments (Chromel, Alumel, ??) A more relevant question is whether there was a useful primer for Aluminum during WWI. Its a notoriously hard metal to paint because of poor film adhesion. The trend in the immediate post war years was to leave the metal parts unpainted and polish to a high luster by hand. I haven't studied enough wartime photos to tell if there was a lot of peeling on metal panels but without a good primer, its almost a sure thing. Anodized surfaces take paint a lot better, but still need a primer. Eli Geher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:56:45 -0800 From: "Lance Mertz" To: Subject: Re: Fine Art Models Message-ID: <008901c0c116$1020cc00$9601a8c0@Lance> I'm only 75 miles from Prince Rupert, which is where Bob lives. Ketchikan is the southern most city in Alaska. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crawford Neil" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 11:35 PM Subject: RE: Fine Art Models > Can't resist telling you that Knut-Erik, Jan and me, all live north of > you Bob! Luckily we have the gulf-stream to keep us warm, so the climate > is milder than Canada. Oh, and welcome to the list Lance, you at least > must be the furthest north. > /Neil > > > > > Bob wrote: > > > > Still in shock that someone lives north of me > > > > ---------- > > >From: "Lance Mertz" > > > > > Oh, I live in Ketchikan, Alaska, the Salmon Capital of the > > World, so now you > > > understand the boats thing. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:10:25 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Overengineering: Re: Pfalz DIII vs Spad VII Message-ID: --part1_d2.4e206e7.280338f1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the issue has been over simplified, the Spad was an extremely intricate airplane to build, the Pfalz with it's composite structure probably was lighter and stronger, IMHO. Early in the war, the Germans had the advantage in inline engines with the Mercedes, it wasn't until the Hisso came out that this started to slip. The in line six format used by the Germans was good into 1917, and adequate for the rest of the war. The Germans developed several engines of 'advanced' design, the Siemens Halske rotary, for one. The problems for the Germans were time, materials, and skilled manpower, which the war drew down steadily, not lack of engineering talent. IMO, one strange "blind spot" for the Germans was compression ratio, the Germans designs had generally much lower compression than their British or French counterparts, and so had inferior performance, especially at altitude, until the last months of the war (BMW IIIa). Merrill --part1_d2.4e206e7.280338f1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the issue has been over simplified, the Spad was an extremely
intricate airplane to build, the Pfalz with it's composite structure probably
was lighter and stronger, IMHO. Early in the war, the Germans had the
advantage in inline engines with the Mercedes, it wasn't until the Hisso came
out that this started to slip. The in line six format used by the Germans was
good into 1917, and adequate for the rest of the war. The Germans developed
several engines of 'advanced' design, the Siemens Halske rotary, for one. The
problems for the Germans were time, materials, and skilled manpower, which
the war drew down steadily, not lack of engineering talent. IMO, one strange
"blind spot" for the Germans was compression ratio, the Germans designs had
generally much lower compression than their British or French counterparts,
and so had inferior performance, especially at altitude, until the last
months of the war (BMW IIIa).
Merrill --part1_d2.4e206e7.280338f1_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:19:35 -0400 From: "Sanjeev Hirve" To: Subject: Harborough book Message-ID: <000501c0c110$de84b350$0800010a@cyberelan.com> Hi all, I got hold of a book "Aircraft of the 1914-1918 war" complied by W.M.Lambertin, published by Harborough in UK. I paid usd 40 for it. Was that a good price? The book is full of BW photos and 3-view drawings and cross-sections. It appears as if it covers all the production aircraft of the war! It has separate sections on engine, cockpit, etc. regards SSH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:36:01 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_New_1:48_A.E.G._=A0G.IV?= Message-ID: <011701c0c11b$8c0fd720$0100005a@ptd.net> Ah, for half-hearted DA's...the one's here don't have a heart at all. Mike Muth...after another long morning in Court. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" > No thanks. I'm seldom pleased with half hearted attempts at anything, > cept for maybe a DA's half hearted attempt at prosecuting me. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:09:47 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Twin lewis camels Message-ID: Greetings all, Was doing some digging over the weekend and found a thread in the archive re Lt. Stuart Culley's zepp dusting Camel (N6128 ??) I'm still working on the interior of my 1:28 camel, doing a full DB as you might say. Seeing as I have nice Vickers and lewises in 1:28 I thought I'd put them all on and call it Culley's camel. Can someone tell me if it's confirmed that Culley's camel had the twin lewis but no vickers? If that is the case (boo hoo) can anyone remember a case of a camel having all of them? Double lewis double vickers or even single lewis with double vickers?? Would be a waste not to use the lewis since I can't think of another 1:28 subject where they'd be appropriate. TIA MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:45:53 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: A day of modelling Message-ID: <01ea01c0c11c$ed1b2c80$0100005a@ptd.net> did > anyone get any modelling done? Yep...major work done on the Berg. Top wing attached and rigging on one side completed. The rest of rigging will get done tonight after softball practice....I dread finishing up the rigging because the next step if the dreaded undercarriage (The source of more of my models being in the garbage can than I care to recall.) Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:49:42 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Another Decal Survey Message-ID: <01ee01c0c11d$75984660$0100005a@ptd.net> Let me add my concurrence to Marc's choices. How about adding the language on the top of some ofthe Belgian fuselages "Ne Nemo..." or whatever it was. Mike Muth > Listmember Ivan Subrt over at Silverbird (URL is available on the WW1 site) > is soliciting ideas for World War I decals. I don't know what he's planning > on doing with the suggestions. The form he has is geared for individual > aircraft, but I put in my request for a sheet full of French Squadron > Insignia and another with Belgian Squadron Insignia in both 1/72 and 1/48. > He may respond to my requests and I'll know more. Better yet, he may be > lurking and will tell us by sending the list a message. > > Marc Flake > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:48:27 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: A day of modelling Message-ID: <010e01c0c11d$48703760$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Mike: So you should start rigging by the undercarriage and not by the wings. If you marr that, at least you don't waste all the work involved in the more complex wing rigging. I always start glueing the undercarrige wires from the "belly" to the "wheels". Best of lucks! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Muth and Zulick To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: Re: A day of modelling > did > > anyone get any modelling done? > Yep...major work done on the Berg. Top wing attached and rigging on one side > completed. The rest of rigging will get done tonight after softball > practice....I dread finishing up the rigging because the next step if the > dreaded undercarriage (The source of more of my models being in the garbage > can than I care to recall.) > Mike Muth > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:03:14 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Overengineering: Re: Pfalz DIII vs Spad Message-ID: Merrill wrote: >IMO, one strange "blind spot" for the Germans was compression ratio, the >Germans designs had generally much lower compression than their British or >French counterparts, and so had inferior performance, especially at altitude, >until the last months of the war (BMW IIIa). Part of the problem was that higher compression ratios mean a need for higher octane fuel and better cooling. Since the Germans were lacking in castor oil and their synthetics did not do the trick as well in the rotaries, higher compression ratios were out of the running for those designs. I did not think the BMW IIIa engine had a higher compression ration, I thought it used a static compression on the air intake into the carburetor to achieve a kind of supercharging through no additional moving parts. Even so, the in-line engines might have been able to get higher compression ratios with a little work, since extra cooling could have been built in. I wonder, though, I haven't done a study of what fuel sources Germany had. However, crude oils vary all over the place by source. Some are very high in branched light hydrocarbons that give higher octane. What I remember is that Rumanian crudes tend to be higher than most in linear hydrocarbons, which have relatively low octane numbers. The Germans may have been caught by their supply position, again. Gasoline in those days was a simple distillation of the light hydrocarbons from crude oil. It wasn't until the twenties that thermal cracking (breaking larger hydrocarbons down to smaller ones, which increases branching as well) to increase gasoline (naphtha) make was used deliberately, and catalytic cracking was introduced in the thirties. Reforming, to increase the proportion of branched hydrocarbons (the higher octane ones) was coming into play in the late thirties in the U.S. first. Tetraethyl Lead, the demon compound that was the wonder octane ingredient, was discovered to have anti-knock properties in the twenties. The discovery was one of the stories my organometallic chemistry professor (my thesis advisor) loved telling. In those days, there was a lot less known about the structure of the atom and molecular bonding. It was known that elemental iodine was a good anti-knock agent, but was not very soluble in the gasoline and was corrosive. The researchers tried the theory that it was the same thing that gave iodine its strong color that made it a good anti-knock compound. They tried every colored compound they knew. In doing so they tried a sample of bright yellow Tetraethyl Lead that they had. It worked better than any of the others in all respects. Except Tetraethyl Lead is a colorless compound. They only tried it because the sample they had was impure and contaminated with lead oxide/sulfate (lead yellow pigment). Very ot, but fun to poke holes in the belief that scientists know what they are doing. .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:15:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Shon Howell To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Harborough book Message-ID: <384093384.986840153407.JavaMail.root@web672-wrb> Subject: Harborough book Hi all, I got hold of a book "Aircraft of the 1914-1918 war" complied by W.M.Lambertin, published by Harborough in UK. I paid usd 40 for it. Was that a good price? The book is full of BW photos and 3-view drawings and cross-sections. It appears as if it covers all the production aircraft of the war! It has separate sections on engine, cockpit, etc. regards SSH I think most of us know this as the "Harleyford" book, published by AERO in 1960. I love it, as it's a handy little quick reference & a nice bit of historonics from our hobby. Best to double check the drawings against photo reference where possible... ^_^ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:43:06 +0200 (CEST) From: knut.erik.hagen@eunet.no (Knut Erik Hagen) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Northern members - was Fine Art Models Message-ID: <200104091843.UAA82464@mail-relay.eunet.no> Hei, Just a little bit of nit-picking, Ketchikan is at 55.25N, Oslo at 59.55N, so I still have a few degrees to spare. But Lance is most likely our listmember furthest to the West. To bring this OT, the RNoAF Museum in Bodø at 67.17N has an Avro 504K - it must be the only WW1 aircraft on view North of the Arctic Circle. Do not know if I qualify as the Northernmost member as I spend more time onboard the vessel where I work, it is currently assigned to the PGS Asian-Pacific fleet and operating off India. I access the list archives when onboard and have done some sanding on a Broplan vac-form while we were in the Malacca Strait transiting from Singapore, so I have helped taking the hobby into a new region. Eders Knut Erik >Can't resist telling you that Knut-Erik, Jan and me, all live north of >you Bob! Luckily we have the gulf-stream to keep us warm, so the climate >is milder than Canada. Oh, and welcome to the list Lance, you at least >must be the furthest north. >/Neil > >> >> Bob wrote: >> >> Still in shock that someone lives north of me >> >> ---------- >> >From: "Lance Mertz" >> >> > Oh, I live in Ketchikan, Alaska, the Salmon Capital of the >> World, so now you >> > understand the boats thing. >> > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:47:06 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Dale Beamish Message-ID: <003c01c0c125$7a57d0a0$35464c0c@tom> Hi I received e-mail from him about a month ago, nothing since. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harris, Mack" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:23 AM Subject: Dale Beamish > Has anyone heard from Dale? I'm not getting any reply to emails sent to > him. > Thanks everyone. > Mack > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:16:14 -0800 From: "Lance Mertz" To: Subject: Re: Northern members - was Fine Art Models Message-ID: <00ce01c0c129$8c67b2c0$9601a8c0@Lance> A girl from Ketchikan met a "Norvegian" on the Internet and fell in love. She married him and moved there a couple of years ago. Haven't heard from her in a while. He is also a crewman on a ship... Small world. Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Knut Erik Hagen" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Northern members - was Fine Art Models > Hei, > > Just a little bit of nit-picking, Ketchikan is at 55.25N, Oslo at 59.55N, > so I still have a few degrees to spare. > But Lance is most likely our listmember furthest to the West. > To bring this OT, the RNoAF Museum in Bodø at 67.17N has an Avro 504K > - it must be the only WW1 aircraft on view North of the Arctic Circle. > > Do not know if I qualify as the Northernmost member as I spend more > time onboard the vessel where I work, it is currently assigned to > the PGS Asian-Pacific fleet and operating off India. > I access the list archives when onboard and have done some sanding > on a Broplan vac-form while we were in the Malacca Strait transiting > from Singapore, so I have helped taking the hobby into a new region. > > > Eders > Knut Erik > > > >Can't resist telling you that Knut-Erik, Jan and me, all live north of > >you Bob! Luckily we have the gulf-stream to keep us warm, so the climate > >is milder than Canada. Oh, and welcome to the list Lance, you at least > >must be the furthest north. > >/Neil > > > >> > >> Bob wrote: > >> > >> Still in shock that someone lives north of me > >> > >> ---------- > >> >From: "Lance Mertz" > >> > >> > Oh, I live in Ketchikan, Alaska, the Salmon Capital of the > >> World, so now you > >> > understand the boats thing. > >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:58:53 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Harborough book Message-ID: <3AD2066D.DFD4223E@x25.net> I got mine at a sale in the early 1960's for $6.50 U.S. What with inflation and some scarcity I think $40.00 is close to correct. Lee M. Sanjeev Hirve wrote: > Hi all, > I got hold of a book "Aircraft of the 1914-1918 war" complied by > W.M.Lambertin, published by Harborough in UK. I paid usd 40 for it. Was > that a good price? The book is full of BW photos and 3-view drawings and > cross-sections. It appears as if it covers all the production aircraft of > the war! It has separate sections on engine, cockpit, etc. > regards > SSH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 19:01:17 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Excellent Alberto Casirati news Message-ID: Congratulations Alberto. And also to Matt for the Rosemont model photo of the month. Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:03:11 EDT From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: PFalse Pfalzes wasRe: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane Message-ID: <6a.ced333b.2803616f@aol.com> In a message dated 4/8/01 3:36:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, BigglesRFC@globalserve.net writes: << The Pfalz (sounds like you missed that part) is still flying someplace in the states. >> There were two Blue Max "Pfalzes". One is in Javier Arango's stable, and used to show up at air shows in California from to time, along with his Blue Max D.VII. I'm not sure where the other Pfalz is. RK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:06:45 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dale Beamish Message-ID: <3AD20844.F78632AB@x25.net> If the e-mail does not return chances are they are arriving at the servers and he is on their list. Misaddressed or bad address messages will be returned as unknown. So chances are he is still around but to busy or unconnected temporarily. I believe he was having family problems and things can get all hung up at times like that. I sent a message and did not get any answer but it actually did not require one. My message was not returned either. Lee M. TOM PLESHA wrote: > Hi I received e-mail from him about a month ago, nothing since. > Tom > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harris, Mack" > To: "Multiple recipients of list" > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:23 AM > Subject: Dale Beamish > > > Has anyone heard from Dale? I'm not getting any reply to emails sent to > > him. > > Thanks everyone. > > Mack > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 19:11:37 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Blue Print Models? Message-ID: I got a similar email response, and it said to send a self-addressed envelope for more info. I wrote back and asked what size envelope, business letter size or a big manilla envelope? No reply. Jim >From: "Courtney Allen" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Blue Print Models? >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:29:52 -0400 (EDT) > >Received the following emails from them a couple weeks ago. >Courtney > >"Thanks for your inquiry in Bluprint Models, right now I have 6 kits in >the >collection. They are the Fokker E3 for $54.95, Fokker D7and D8 for $69.95 >each and Pfalz D3, Nieuport, Albatros D5 for $59.95 each plus s/h. These >are multimedia, vacform kits. With resin, white metal, and etched brass >parts. They also include decals, (lozenge, upper and lower for the D7and >D8), full interiors with engines, guns etc... >Shipping is $5.00 FCM plus $1.00 each additional, same for UPS. >Thanks for your interest, sincerely Michael Ridlon dba Bluprint Models. >P.O. Box 332 Pelham NH 03076" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:54:48 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Blue Print Models? Message-ID: Jim wrote: >I got a similar email response, and it said to send a self-addressed >envelope for more info. I wrote back and asked what size envelope, business >letter size or a big manilla envelope? > >No reply. > I've had several e-mails from Mike and I gather he's still getting the operation up and running. With luck I'll have his catalog soon. All I can say is the other older marcos Kits are excellent a definite must for anyone interewted in big scale multi media kits. I'll keep you posted as to any replies from Mr. Ridlon. MVJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:21:05 -0500 From: "Mark Shannon" To: Subject: Re: Excellent Alberto Casirati news Message-ID: Congratulations, Alberto! You'll have to let us know what the duties and privileges are in you new post! .Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 12:04:17 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Twin lewis camels Message-ID: <200104091129.f39BTLc46413@mail.rapidnet.net> Many 2.F1s had one Lewis and one Vickers. Note if doing Culley's you need to make it into a 2.F1 with redoced span centre-section, revised cowl and cabane struts .. and the fuselage as well. .. or just leave it as is and reserial it. . only you'll know anyway. Bob ---------- >From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Twin lewis camels >Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2001, 10:39 am > > Greetings all, > > Was doing some digging over the weekend and found a thread in the archive > re Lt. Stuart Culley's zepp dusting Camel (N6128 ??) > I'm still working on the interior of my 1:28 camel, doing a full DB as you > might say. > Seeing as I have nice Vickers and lewises in 1:28 I thought I'd put them > all on and call it Culley's camel. > > Can someone tell me if it's confirmed that Culley's camel had the twin > lewis but no vickers? > If that is the case (boo hoo) can anyone remember a case of a camel having > all of them? Double lewis double vickers or even single lewis with double > vickers?? > Would be a waste not to use the lewis since I can't think of another 1:28 > subject where they'd be appropriate. > > TIA > MVJ > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 20:38:55 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Northern members - was Fine Art Models Message-ID: <3AD20FCE.AAF3DAD5@dial.pipex.com> Knut Erik Hagen wrote: > Hei, > > Just a little bit of nit-picking, Ketchikan is at 55.25N, Oslo at 59.55N, > so I still have a few degrees to spare. Well I'm at 56 05, so Sandy, who is 30 miles north of me, must be about 56 40 or there abouts, so Knut may have it, but we're still above Bob !! Who are our most Easterly & Southern members ? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 22:50:31 +0300 From: Jan Vihonen To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Northern members - was Fine Art Models Message-ID: <3AD21287.32949830@helsinki.fi> Helsinki is 60.15N. I wonder if this makes me then the Northernmost listmember. Knut Erik, thanks for the new scans. They came Ok and are excellent. Jan > Just a little bit of nit-picking, Ketchikan is at 55.25N, Oslo at 59.55N, > so I still have a few degrees to spare. > But Lance is most likely our listmember furthest to the West. > To bring this OT, the RNoAF Museum in Bodø at 67.17N has an Avro 504K > - it must be the only WW1 aircraft on view North of the Arctic Circle. ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3267 **********************