WWI Digest 3259 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) RE: Modelbud Group Order Status by Brent Theobald 2) Van's, was Re: WW1 figures? by Ernest Thomas 3) Re: Van's, was Re: WW1 figures? by Todd Hayes 4) WW1 German Aviation Insignia... by Sharon Henderson 5) Re: WW1 figures? was(Merrill's Figure Comments) by "Limon3" 6) Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) by "Jim Landon" 7) Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) by "TOM PLESHA" 8) Dry Brushing help by "cameron rile" 9) Raised ribs under wings by "TOM PLESHA" 10) Re: Dry Brushing help by "Michael Kendix" 11) Re: A little something to break the fun we are having by "diaphus" 12) Re: Dry Brushing help by Al Superczynski 13) Re: Dry Brushing help by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 14) Re: trust nothing by Ernest Thomas 15) Re: trust nothing wasRe: Windsock GA Drawings Accuracy by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 16) RE: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) by Shane Weier 17) RE: A little something to break the fun we are having by Shane Weier 18) One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane by "Dave Watts" 19) Re: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane by "Bob Pearson" 20) Re: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane by "Bob Pearson" 21) RE: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane by Volker Haeusler 22) Re: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane by "Steven M.Perry" 23) "Prime"mary lesson by "Steven M.Perry" 24) RE: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane by Brent Theobald 25) RE: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane by Brent Theobald ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:32:59 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Modelbud Group Order Status Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608EE9@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BEFA.4C196CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy, No word as of yet. Perhaps we could ask one of our Polish brethren to make a phone call and inquire on our behalf? I will be more aggressive about finding out the status of our order once I return stateside. Thanks for be patient. Brent -----Original Message----- From: Courtney Allen [mailto:c-j-allen@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Re: Modelbud Group Order Status Brent, Any further info. on our order? Thanks Courtney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Theobald" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:08 AM Subject: Modelbud Group Order Status > Hey Gang, > > Mr. Choroszy's email is working again. He has received our payment and the > kits will be shipped this week. > > Good news eh? > > Later! > > Brent > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BEFA.4C196CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Modelbud Group Order Status

Howdy,

No word as of yet. Perhaps we could ask one of our Polish brethren to make a phone call and inquire on our behalf?

I will be more aggressive about finding out the status of our order once I return stateside.

Thanks for be patient.

Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: Courtney Allen [mailto:c-j-allen@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 12:53 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Modelbud Group Order Status


Brent,

Any further info. on our order?

Thanks
Courtney
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Theobald" <btheobal@sta.samsung.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <wwi@wwi-models.org>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:08 AM
Subject: Modelbud Group Order Status


> Hey Gang,
>
> Mr. Choroszy's email is working again. He has received our payment and the
> kits will be shipped this week.
>
> Good news eh?
>
> Later!
>
> Brent
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BEFA.4C196CD0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 20:26:32 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Van's, was Re: WW1 figures? Message-ID: <3ACE6CC7.BE9EDA7B@bellsouth.net> David Calhoun wrote: > > Hello everyone, > Here's a question for you. Anyone know anything about Van's scale models? > I got a flyer from them in 1998 after seeing a set of their 1/48 scale resin > figures called Red Baron 1918. They also advertised Behind the Lines, 5 > figure set German & British, and a 5 figure set of French figures. Anyone > ever seen these? Are they still aviaiable? Any coments would be > appriciated. Hey Dave, I have the Behind the Lines set,(still un-touched) and maybe even the Richtoften set. Haven't looked at them in a few years, but iirc, the quality was somewhere between Jaguar and CzechMaster. Not a bad set of figures and a decent prices too. However, last I heard, Van was out of business. I bought mine when he first started out. I even in-boxed em on the list. That was back when I first subscribed. Afaik, NO ONE on this list ever mentioned buying any of these figures. SHAME!(shaking a finger at the monitor) Shame on all of you who let this guy go out of business when he had such big plans for 1/48 OT figures and accessories. E. who's having a rare moment, claiming the moral high-ground. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:34:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Van's, was Re: WW1 figures? Message-ID: <20010407013414.89280.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Maybe Eric will take up the slack. Sopwith Hobbies used to have a good selection of figures and accessories. I still regret not have bought some OT 1:48 fuel carts, ladders, and trestles that Juan had. Does anyone know if AJP Maquettes still does figures? Todd --- Ernest Thomas wrote: > > > David Calhoun wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > Here's a question for you. Anyone know anything > about Van's scale models? > > I got a flyer from them in 1998 after seeing a set > of their 1/48 scale resin > > figures called Red Baron 1918. They also > advertised Behind the Lines, 5 > > figure set German & British, and a 5 figure set of > French figures. Anyone > > ever seen these? Are they still aviaiable? Any > coments would be > > appriciated. > > Hey Dave, > I have the Behind the Lines set,(still un-touched) > and maybe even the > Richtoften set. Haven't looked at them in a few > years, but iirc, the > quality was somewhere between Jaguar and > CzechMaster. Not a bad set of > figures and a decent prices too. > However, last I heard, Van was out of business. I > bought mine when he > first started out. I even in-boxed em on the list. > That was back when I > first subscribed. Afaik, NO ONE on this list ever > mentioned buying any > of these figures. SHAME!(shaking a finger at the > monitor) Shame on all > of you who let this guy go out of business when he > had such big plans > for 1/48 OT figures and accessories. > E. > who's having a rare moment, claiming the moral high-ground. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:40:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Henderson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: WW1 German Aviation Insignia... Message-ID: <20010407014055.33951.qmail@web9808.mail.yahoo.com> Hi folks, Pardon the splattercast: just wanted to let anyone know who might be interested (besides Gaston, to whom I just sent the actual pictures), I finally found my Prussian shoulderboards with the aviation insignia on them. Photographed them with the digital cam I am still shamelessly borrowing from my friend John, and will send them to anyone interested in seeing them. Cheers, Sharon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:54:57 -0700 From: "Limon3" To: Subject: Re: WW1 figures? was(Merrill's Figure Comments) Message-ID: <013301c0bf0e$6ba385e0$45f1303f@i7e2z6> Hi Dave, I bought 3 of the pilot figures, one of them graces a DML DVIII that I built. They're pretty good, but I don't think they are still available. Gabe ----- Original Message ----- From: David Calhoun To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: WW1 figures? was(Merrill's Figure Comments) > Hello everyone, > Here's a question for you. Anyone know anything about Van's scale models? > I got a flyer from them in 1998 after seeing a set of their 1/48 scale resin > figures called Red Baron 1918. They also advertised Behind the Lines, 5 > figure set German & British, and a 5 figure set of French figures. Anyone > ever seen these? Are they still aviaiable? Any coments would be > appriciated. > Dave Calhoun > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 02:59:46 From: "Jim Landon" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) Message-ID: Thanks for the good advice Hans. Jim >From: "Hans Trauner" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:50:11 -0400 (EDT) > > > HOWEVER, wouldn't there still be TAPE strips on the underside, similar >to > > the topside? Extremely thin perhaps, but something rather than nothing? > > And on a large scale model , like 1:12, wouldn't there even be stitch >bumps? > >Jim, >a few weeks ago I made a survey through my photo collection of WWI >survivers. List members told me how a underside has to look like after I >complaint Roden's Pfalz. What I saw was: >For around 50% the wings are flat, but tape is visible. For the other 50% >the rib positions are cleary visible and marked as the fabric is sucked in! >Plus tapes. I would not bother that in 1/72 nor in 1/48 but in 1/16?? Take >a >sharp look to your picture collection. If you see ribs on the undersides, >watch the shadows. > >Hans > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:30:15 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) Message-ID: <000a01c0bf13$105d2ec0$1e434c0c@tom> Hans is correct. fabric covering had the fabric stitched through the wing, over the ribs both topside and bottom side. Upon completion, tape was laid over the stitching on top and bottom to protect and cover the stitching and to keep the fabric from being pulled/cut by the stitches or vice versa? and losing the airfoil, integrity, etc, of the wing. Off hand, I can't think of an area that had stitched fabric that did not have tapes over the stitching. Later, in post WWII era, some of the lightplanes (general aviation), that had aluminum wing structures but were fabric covered, had aluminum strips screwed down onto the ribs to cover the rib stitching. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Landon" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:04 PM Subject: Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) > Thanks for the good advice Hans. > > Jim > > >From: "Hans Trauner" > >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org > >To: Multiple recipients of list > >Subject: Re: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) > >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:50:11 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > HOWEVER, wouldn't there still be TAPE strips on the underside, similar > >to > > > the topside? Extremely thin perhaps, but something rather than nothing? > > > And on a large scale model , like 1:12, wouldn't there even be stitch > >bumps? > > > >Jim, > >a few weeks ago I made a survey through my photo collection of WWI > >survivers. List members told me how a underside has to look like after I > >complaint Roden's Pfalz. What I saw was: > >For around 50% the wings are flat, but tape is visible. For the other 50% > >the rib positions are cleary visible and marked as the fabric is sucked in! > >Plus tapes. I would not bother that in 1/72 nor in 1/48 but in 1/16?? Take > >a > >sharp look to your picture collection. If you see ribs on the undersides, > >watch the shadows. > > > >Hans > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:40:57 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Dry Brushing help Message-ID: <47DB428B2DA25D115A950005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> How do you do dry brushing? I bought an Emhar MkIV to try the technique out on and it isnt coming out how I expected it. I left streaks all over the place. Should the dry brushed paint be in strong contrast or weak contrast to the background colour? cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:42:03 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Raised ribs under wings Message-ID: <001001c0bf14$b6a6a6c0$1e434c0c@tom> In the last message, a response to Hans and Jim, I stated I could not think of an area that was stitched that was not taped. I was thinking wings and flying surfaces and did not state that, sorry. Not fuselage, etc. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 04:01:15 From: "Michael Kendix" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dry Brushing help Message-ID: Cam: OK. As far as armour goes, I only drybrush the raised areas and edges of things. The panels are usually given an oil wash and I sort of let the oil get heavier in random areas. So. First spray or paint the kit. Next do any oil wash and let it dry. Then do the drybrushing. get a tiny trace of paint on the end of a fairly stiff brush and sort of whisk it over the raised areas and edges. Michael >From: "cameron rile" >Reply-To: wwi@wwi-models.org >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Dry Brushing help >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:43:32 -0400 (EDT) > >How do you do dry brushing? I bought an Emhar MkIV to try the >technique out on and it isnt coming out how I expected it. I left >streaks all over the place. Should the dry brushed paint be in strong >contrast or weak contrast to the background colour? > > > >cam >AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ > >________________________________________ >Get your email at >http://www.prontomail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:08:16 -0400 From: "diaphus" To: Subject: Re: A little something to break the fun we are having Message-ID: <001f01c0bf18$5f537840$cf371c18@tampabay.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Huggins" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:04 AM Subject: A little something to break the fun we are having > My better half got this today. We had fun trying to figure out the > answers without cheating. The list it came from has an average of 18 > correct. Lets see how well we pay attention to the little details. Well, that was fun. Got 25, including the missing #24. Missed #'s 5, 8 (don't smoke, so...), 19, 23 and 27. Of course, I can't remember where I left my car keys, but the trivia bin is full and functional :-) Jack Gartner diaphus@tampabay.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 00:30:08 -0500 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dry Brushing help Message-ID: <069tct8qvbgnf85u818ddfh7gajtc2676m@4ax.com> On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:43:39 -0400 (EDT), Cam wrote: >How do you do dry brushing? I bought an Emhar MkIV to try the >technique out on and it isnt coming out how I expected it. I left >streaks all over the place. It sounds like you're leaving *way* too much paint on the brush. Wipe it repeatedly on a rag or paper towel until there's just the barest trace of color left before using it on the model. I'd also recommend you take a look at the much maligned rec.models.scale newsgroup's FAQ for a good guide to dry brushing: http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/rms_tips/rmsfaq.15.html#q3 HTH, Al http://apollo.up-link.net/~modeleral ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 02:03:35 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Dry Brushing help Message-ID: <3ACEADB7.6498EE36@mars.ark.com> Check this out - not much new 'til you get to the Voisin 3 though... http://freeweb.starweb.cz/letadla/html/francie_letadla.html Mike Fletcher ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 01:01:46 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: trust nothing Message-ID: <3ACEAD4A.C6B0156A@bellsouth.net> Mike Dicianna wrote: > Back into lurk mode getting ready for opening night tonight! STELLAAAA!!!!! E. who didn't even place in the "Stell-off" at the T.Williams fest last week. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 02:29:42 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: trust nothing wasRe: Windsock GA Drawings Accuracy Message-ID: <3ACEB3D6.DEDDC3DF@mars.ark.com> speaking of drawings... provisional N.12 top wing drawing is now at: http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/N.12/N12_drawing_6_upper_wing_provisional.jpg SPAN is 9.- m, chord is 1.82 m the stars are 124cm apart in 1:1, 2.58cm in 1/48 and 1.72 cm apart in 1/72 Mike F. KarrArt@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4/5/01 9:22:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdf@mars.ark.com > writes: > > << t was more than just simple parallax error - the lines were all over > the place. I was thinking about that recently though and my question > is - how do you accurately measure a shape that is curved in three > dimensions, and does not use any circles? Apart from chopping the > original up into slices - it would be very difficult to be consistent. > I think I'll stick with my slab sided Nieuports...where all the curves > are really circles. > > Mike F. >> > > I think it's Bob Waugh- the guy who did the amazing Albatros drawings- who > made himself this bizarre looking frame/movable peg/gauge contraption to take > accurate cross sections from full size airplanes- the darn thing fits right > over a fuselage or other component...there was sketch of the thing in an old > WW I Aero. > RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:47:15 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Raised ribs under wings (was: trust nothing) Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748ED8@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Hans says: > a few weeks ago I made a survey through my photo collection of WWI > survivers. List members told me how a underside has to look > like after I > complaint Roden's Pfalz. What I saw was: > For around 50% the wings are flat, but tape is visible. For > the other 50% > the rib positions are cleary visible and marked as the fabric > is sucked in! This is one of the oldest annual discussions we have on the list - which is usually started by someone commenting on the way the underside of the DML Dr.I wing is represented. At first we pretty much all said "Yech - Bogus" but in fact the only thing wrong with them is that the indent effect is overdone for 1:48 The reason you see indents sometimes and nothing sometimes is directly related to the amount of undercamber and the chord of the wings, and also affected by whereabouts underneath the wing the shape changes from convex to concave (the deepest part of the indents is usually about half way across the concave surface - probably between 1/2 and 2/3 of the way back from the leading edge in most cases. I actually measured this on 5 different types at the AWM about 3 years ago, using a straight edge, small ruler and *very* onbliging assistant from their staff. IIRC the deepest indent was only about 15mm (1/2 inch) which is barely significant even in 1/48 though none of their originals has deeply cambered wings. Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:57:40 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: A little something to break the fun we are having Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748ED9@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> John, , > > > >Several of the answers are wrong > > > >;-) > > > > > Correct, if you are living outside of the Colonies, oops, forgot > where I was, the U.S. Feel free to make the necessary corrections. > What made me comment was that I got 8 wrong - but three should have been forgivable given that they were very location specific. It's entertaining though to see how many I could know only through familiarity with the US via TV, movies, books etc. since even stuff like Question 5 and Question 13 differ (no letters at all on our phones, VHF TV dials DO have channel 1 here, venetian blinds here have both cords on the same side) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 03:25:59 -0500 From: "Dave Watts" To: "\"W. W. I Group\" <", > Subject: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane Message-ID: Hi all, Check out this photo, it's really good if you're into German seaplane fighters. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1129606950 Also this Hannover in flight photo, is very nice. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1130270621 Also, can any one identify these aircraft remains? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1130006536 Best times viewing! Dave W. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 01:55:29 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane Message-ID: <200104070049.f370nfc43024@mail.rapidnet.net> Dunno what the aircraft was, but look at the lower left of the photo. ... or rather if you are squeamish, don't look - it appears to be burnt remains of the pilot. Bob ---------- >From: "Dave Watts" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane >Date: Sat, Apr 7, 2001, 1:31 am > > Also, can any one identify these aircraft remains? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1130006536 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 02:34:56 -0700 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane Message-ID: <200104070128.f371Ssc43806@mail.rapidnet.net> Interesting crosses on this one. The naval lozenge also shows up well. Bob ---------- >From: "Dave Watts" >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane >Date: Sat, Apr 7, 2001, 1:31 am > > Hi all, > > Check out this photo, it's really good if you're into German seaplane > fighters. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1129606950 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 13:59:26 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane Message-ID: Bob said: "Interesting crosses on this one. The naval lozenge also shows up well. Bob" on > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1129606950 Yes - a really great photo showing the upper wing lozenge - one of the best I´ve ever seens. The photo actually is most probably taken in Windau on the Baltic Sea, where this aircraft was stationed. There is another photo of it (in happier days) on page 10 of the WS Mini DF (it is the aircraft on the extreme right of the photo - the code can be read on a better print of this photo). It is interesting how many different schemes for the W 4 existed. It seems all late 2nd series W 4´s (second half of the 948-967 run) carried this scheme with the black only upper wing crosses, 2 guns and fuselage radiators. Volker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:49:31 -0400 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Re: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane Message-ID: <00c001c0bf50$6ddc0ac0$5ef0aec7@default> It is interesting how many different schemes for the W 4 existed. It > seems all late 2nd series W 4´s (second half of the 948-967 run) carried > this scheme with the black only upper wing crosses, 2 guns and fuselage > radiators. Volker: Have you any idea if this was the brownish or the blueish shade of naval hex? sp who is suddenly contemplating a third incarnation of his prize winning W.4 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:59:02 -0400 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: "Prime"mary lesson Message-ID: <00c801c0bf5a$23a2af40$5ef0aec7@default> I'm doing an oob build of the Smer Spad VII, that 1/40 scale thing. It's as a retirement gift for my boss, so the odd scale is perfect. It will be Bullard's plane. I wanted subtle indications of the structure under the French yellow fabric covering. Not so much as on a CDL finish, but just enough to let the eye know its there. So I'm using the same technique of overspraying penciled ribs & stringers. I don't usually prime my models, but this technique forces me to. Boy did I catch some blemishes. This kit takes a lot of filling in and filing down around the lower wing/fuselage/belly tank area. I guess seams are such a minimal problem with most WWI models that I have gotten lazy and renained lucky in that department. Funny how hard good habits are to get back into. BTW: Darker or lighter shade for the non fabric covered panels? What say the French experts? (I'll scale your answer up by the appropriate factor Matt) sp sp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:58:54 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608EF2@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BF5A.1E2AD7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy! Bob says: Interesting crosses on this one. The naval lozenge also shows up well. Yep! I can't wait until Lance weighs in on those rib tapes. The other photo was pretty gruesome. The pilot's remains looked easier to identify than the aircraft though :( Later! Brent ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BF5A.1E2AD7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane

Howdy!

Bob says:
Interesting crosses on this one. The naval lozenge also shows up well.

Yep! I can't wait until Lance weighs in on those rib tapes.

The other photo was pretty gruesome. The pilot's remains looked easier to identify than the aircraft though :(

Later!

Brent

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BF5A.1E2AD7E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:02:21 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608EF3@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BF5A.99A93920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy! There's a Taube in this one. It looks as if the crew survived unscathed. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1129602424 Later! Brent ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BF5A.99A93920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: One excellent photo of German fighter seaplane

Howdy!

There's a Taube in this one. It looks as if the crew = survived unscathed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item= =3D1129602424

Later!

Brent

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