WWI Digest 3256 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1M=B7=7E=B7=7C=ADp?= by David Fleming 2) SPAM and MAPS by "Lee J. Mensinger" 3) Re: trust nothing by "Mike Dicianna" 4) Re: SPAM and MAPS by Allan Wright 5) Re: trust nothing by Mark Vaughan-Jackson 6) Re: Hans Trauner's Figures Comment by "Hans Trauner" 7) Re: SPAM and MAPS by "Lee J. Mensinger" 8) Re: Hans Trauner's Figures Comment by "Hans Trauner" 9) Modeling References was: A lot of other recent similar threads by "Steven M.Perry" 10) RE: Hans Trauner's Figures Comment by Crawford Neil 11) Re: SPAM and MAPS by Allan Wright 12) Re: A little something to break the fun we are having by "Hans Trauner" 13) Re: Sorta OT: North Carolina by "Brian Nicklas" 14) Re: SPAM and MAPS by "Lee J. Mensinger" 15) RE: Salmson floor (was: A bit of help on the Hi Tech Roland DII) by "dfernet0" 16) RE: Your own modeling style WAS: You guyes (...) by Crawford Neil 17) Re: Boxkite by "Hans Trauner" 18) RE: A little something to break the fun we are having by Volker Haeusler 19) Apology by "TOM PLESHA" 20) RE: Apology by Crawford Neil 21) RE: Gaston and the Amish by Mark Miller 22) Re: Apology by Allan Wright 23) Re: Your own modeling style WAS: You guyes (...) by "Muth and Zulick" 24) Re: Gaston and the Amish by Allan Wright 25) Gotha review by Dennis Ugulano 26) RE: Your own modeling style WAS: You guyes (...) by Crawford Neil 27) Re: A little something to break the fun we are having by "DAVID BURKE" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:47:02 +0100 From: David Fleming To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B1M=B7=7E=B7=7C=ADp?= Message-ID: <3ACDACB6.C197CA0@dial.pipex.com> TOM PLESHA wrote: > HUH? > Tom More Chinese spam, Hong Kong variety this time. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 07:22:46 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: APPMAN@worldnet.att.net, David Fleming , Subject: SPAM and MAPS Message-ID: <3ACDB516.3AEF5CB9@x25.net> Gentlemen. Just a word of warning. Do not hit reply and send SPAM messages back to the WWi servers. David deleted the original message and Tom did not.. So chances are that David will be okay but is is possible that the MAPS program at Univ. of New Hampshire caught the Spam message and will disconnect the Worldnet servers from their system and Tom along with it. If this happens Tom will have to change ISPs to get back on. Please do not thing I am interefering as I have watched this before and I do know what can happen Dale Beamish from up Toronto way can tell anyone how it got him and the problems it caused. If you are bothered by the SPAM delete it but under no circumstances send it back around the list . It is a waste of Intenet bandwidth and just as much a nusciance from a member as it is from a "faceless Taiwanese or Chineses business" Please do not do that. Allan can explain what has happened in the past and he can do nothing about it if it does. Consider this as good advice as intended, and, not a bother or interference in your business. I have seen what happens and you won't like it if it does. Lee M. New Braunfels, TX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:53:23 -0700 From: "Mike Dicianna" To: Subject: Re: trust nothing Message-ID: <007401c0be98$9158db80$1dadefd8@pavilion> I have to agree here. After just finished building a set for a play of "Streetcar Named Desire" the rule in live theater is that "it only needs to look good from 20 feet away" Hopefully my modelling efforts meet this criteria as well..... Back into lurk mode getting ready for opening night tonight! MikeDC "Der Rote Modellflugzeugbauer" > I am lurking and enjoying this discussion. As an example, have any of you > ever worked in live theater? Proper stage makeup looks nothing like it does > onestage if you see the person close up. Kind of the same with the building > of kits. There are techniques (many of which are beyond me) which work > well. I am an armor modeller and am astounded at the photo-like effects the > experts achieve, while I struggle to just get the damn thing together > without major problems! > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:02:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SPAM and MAPS Message-ID: <200104061302.JAA05271@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Just a word of warning. Do not hit reply and send SPAM messages back to > the WWi servers. > > David deleted the original message and Tom did not.. So chances are > that David will be okay but is is possible that the MAPS program at > Univ. of New Hampshire caught the Spam message and will disconnect the > Worldnet servers from their system and Tom along with it. > > If this happens Tom will have to change ISPs to get back on. > > Please do not thing I am interefering as I have watched this before and > I do know what can happen > > Dale Beamish from up Toronto way can tell anyone how it got him and the > problems it caused. If you are bothered by the SPAM delete it but under > no circumstances send it back around the list . > > It is a waste of Intenet bandwidth and just as much a nusciance from a > member as it is from a "faceless Taiwanese or Chineses business" Please > do not do that. > > Allan can explain what has happened in the past and he can do nothing > about it if it does. Consider this as good advice as intended, and, not > a bother or interference in your business. I have seen what happens and > you won't like it if it does. I actually use a service called RBL - Realtime Blackhole List. My mail 'daemons' check with a registry at RBL for any incoming mail that is on an ISP that has been registered as a 'SPAM' host. Mail from those hosts is ignored. As part of my participation my mail 'daemnons' also forward spam info to the RBL for POSSIBLE inclusion on their lists. If your ISP gets on the RBL (heck even wwi-models.org got on it once!) your ISP has to correct the problem in their mail services configuration and then ask RBL to poll their computers to see that they are safe. Once that is done your ISP gets removed from the 'Black Hole List'. So yes, if you forward spam to the list you MAY have ISP problems which, depending on your ISP may be hard or easy to get resolved. Anyways, simply delete any spam that happens to come from the list. I handle in the background here the efforts to prevent it's transmission to you. Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:37:17 +0100 From: Mark Vaughan-Jackson To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: trust nothing Message-ID: >I have to agree here. After just finished building a set for a play of >"Streetcar Named Desire" the rule in live theater is that "it only needs >to look good from 20 feet away" > >Hopefully my modelling efforts meet this criteria as well..... > >Back into lurk mode getting ready for opening night tonight! > >MikeDC Mike, get out there and break some legs! MVJ - BA (Hons) English and Drama. . .aka old theatre dog ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:07:32 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Hans Trauner's Figures Comment Message-ID: <001101c0be9a$8a978240$4ba372d4@FRITZweb> Andrei wrote: > Oh, I have to disagree with you there, Hans... if you look at enough figures > at enough shows, you can recognize different people's work! Maybe only a > handful, but those are the outstanding ones! Absolutely correct. But what's about the rest? We do have a 'tin figure club' here in Nuernberg, a club where 30mm flats are the subjects. And I can tell you the painter of each single figure. There is no 'common style' as it is for 54mm or larger now. Of course there are differences, but there is some way you 'have to' paint a figure. Do you know Steve Zaloga, who is writing tank articles for Military Modelling? I like his figures very much, no overdone shadows and highlights. But I am not sure if he has a chance on a contest ( with figures alone! His tanks and dioramas are perfect!) Hans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:09:30 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org, lemen@x25.net Subject: Re: SPAM and MAPS Message-ID: <3ACDC00A.D459AD16@x25.net> Thank you Allan. You and I both know what goes on but sometimes we have to tell about more than once in a while. I wish Dave good luck but one never knows for sure till it happens I did not know you had changed programs. I will have to remember it is now RBL. I suspect one is as good at it's job as the other. Lee M. Allan Wright wrote: > > Just a word of warning. Do not hit reply and send SPAM messages back to > > the WWi servers. > > > > David deleted the original message and Tom did not.. So chances are > > that David will be okay but is is possible that the MAPS program at > > Univ. of New Hampshire caught the Spam message and will disconnect the > > Worldnet servers from their system and Tom along with it. > > > > If this happens Tom will have to change ISPs to get back on. > > > > Please do not thing I am interefering as I have watched this before and > > I do know what can happen > > > > Dale Beamish from up Toronto way can tell anyone how it got him and the > > problems it caused. If you are bothered by the SPAM delete it but under > > no circumstances send it back around the list . > > > > It is a waste of Intenet bandwidth and just as much a nusciance from a > > member as it is from a "faceless Taiwanese or Chineses business" Please > > do not do that. > > > > Allan can explain what has happened in the past and he can do nothing > > about it if it does. Consider this as good advice as intended, and, not > > a bother or interference in your business. I have seen what happens and > > you won't like it if it does. > > I actually use a service called RBL - Realtime Blackhole List. My mail > 'daemons' check with a registry at RBL for any incoming mail that is on > an ISP that has been registered as a 'SPAM' host. Mail from those hosts is > ignored. As part of my participation my mail 'daemnons' also forward spam > info to the RBL for POSSIBLE inclusion on their lists. > > If your ISP gets on the RBL (heck even wwi-models.org got on it once!) your > ISP has to correct the problem in their mail services configuration and then > ask RBL to poll their computers to see that they are safe. Once that is done > your ISP gets removed from the 'Black Hole List'. So yes, if you forward spam > to the list you MAY have ISP problems which, depending on your ISP may be > hard or easy to get resolved. > > Anyways, simply delete any spam that happens to come from the list. I handle > in the background here the efforts to prevent it's transmission to you. > > Allan > > =============================================================================== > Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside > University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org > =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:14:07 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Hans Trauner's Figures Comment Message-ID: <001701c0be9b$760325e0$4ba372d4@FRITZweb> BTW did you see and or buy Hecker and Goros' 54mm German pilot and groundcrew figures? > Merrill Merrill, I did not even noticed that they are making 54mm pilots! What I have is a nearly complete collection of their 1/48 WWI sets and they are the very best to obtain. I do have others also, but Hecker & Goros are perfect. I do have limited scan resources this week, but if you want I could scan those figures next week. Contact me off-list. Hans I have to look for those 1/32 sets! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:12:05 -0400 From: "Steven M.Perry" To: Subject: Modeling References was: A lot of other recent similar threads Message-ID: <006001c0be9b$2e7b1340$7df9aec7@default> The "perfect" reference is rarely found. And it sure is frusterating to find solid proof that you did it wrong just after you've passed the point of no return. All is not lost though, you have sharpened your skills and possibly learned new ones in the process of building to the set of references you did use. A small but slowly growing personal collection of references is limited by financial constraints. I enjoy the process of building to a set of references and since I hate to stop a project, I take what I can get on the plane and build to that. I learn a lot about the plane as I go. When talking about a particular aircraft I have modeled, I am as apt to hold up the model and say, "This is how it wasn't on the real thing", as I am to say "This is how it was." I judge my models by how well they represent the references I did use. I guess that's accuracy in a different sense. Literal accuracy is fine where there is proof positive, but when the evidence is uncertian and opinions abound, this different sense of accuracy becomes a useful idea. sp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:18:11 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Hans Trauner's Figures Comment Message-ID: I have to agree with you here Hans, when looking at the models that win the figures competitions at our Nat's, I can't understand why. Only long-dead corpses look like that. I reckon I'm a layman, so I don't understand these things, and go back to the aircraft. /Neil > Absolutely correct. But what's about the rest? We do have a > 'tin figure > club' here in Nuernberg, a club where 30mm flats are the > subjects. And I can > tell you the painter of each single figure. There is no > 'common style' as it > is for 54mm or larger now. Of course there are differences, > but there is > some way you 'have to' paint a figure. Do you know Steve > Zaloga, who is > writing tank articles for Military Modelling? I like his > figures very much, > no overdone shadows and highlights. But I am not sure if he > has a chance on > a contest ( with figures alone! His tanks and dioramas are perfect!) > > Hans > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:26:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SPAM and MAPS Message-ID: <200104061326.JAA05637@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > Thank you Allan. You and I both know what goes on but sometimes we have to tell > about more than once in a while. I wish Dave good luck but one never knows for > sure till it happens > > I did not know you had changed programs. I will have to remember it is now RBL. I > suspect one is as good at it's job as the other. RBL is more of a community driven scheme - I find it easier to deal with. They much less often 'nuke' people for accidental offenses. That's why I went with them. Allan =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:31:22 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: A little something to break the fun we are having Message-ID: <003501c0be9d$df304780$4ba372d4@FRITZweb> Hmpf. Could not answer more than 10. Very,very U.S, I presume? What's about that? 1. In which direction does a Fokker DR 1 engine rotate ( form the pilots view)? 2. How many rounds does a standard Lewis drum hold? 3. Which brake system does a Roland C. II use? 4. How many WWI colours are available from Humbrol? 5. What was the first WWI a/c kit in plastic? 6. Was there ever a 1/100 scale Fokker DR I? Who did it make? 7. What is the smallest scale WWI a/c kits (injection moulded) was available? 8. What does your kids have for breakfast when the found a tiny Fokker D VIII in the package? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Huggins" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 8:06 AM Subject: A little something to break the fun we are having > My better half got this today. We had fun trying to figure out the > answers without cheating. The list it came from has an average of 18 > correct. Lets see how well we pay attention to the little details. > Remember, no cheating. > > 1. On a standard traffic light, is the green on the top or bottom? > 2. How many states are there? (Don't laugh,some people don't know) > 3. In which hand is the Statue of Liberty's torch? > 4. What 6 colors are on the classic Campbell's soup label? > 5. What 2 letters don't appear on the telephone dial? (No cheating!) > 6. What 2 numbers on the telephone dial don't have letters by them? > 7. When you walk does your left arm swing w/your right or left leg? > 8. How many matches are in a standard pack? > 9. On the United States flag is the top stripe red or white? > 10. What is the lowest number on the FM dial? > 11. Which way does water go down the drain, counter-or clockwise? > 12. Which way does a "no smoking" sign's slash run? > 13. How many channels on a VHF TV dial? > 14. Which side of a women's blouse are the buttons on? > 15. On a NY license plate, is New York on the top or bottom? > 16. Which way do fans rotate? > 17. Whose face is on a dime? > 18. How many sides does a stop sign have? > 19. Do books have even-numbered pages on the right or left side? > 20. How many lug nuts are on a standard car wheel? > 21. How many sides are there on a standard pencil? > 22. Sleepy, Happy, Sneezy, Grumpy, Dopey, Doc. Who's missing? > 23. How many hot dog buns are in a standard package? > 25. On which playing card is the cardmaker's trademark? > 26. On which side of a venetian blind is the cord that adjusts the > opening between the slats? > 27. On the back of a $1 bill, what is in the center? > 28. There are 12 buttons on a touch tone phone. What 2 symbols bear no digits? > 29. How many curves are there in the standard paper clip? > 30. Does a merry-go-round turn counter- or clockwise? > > Don't look at answers until you complete all the questions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Answers: > > 1. Bottom > 2. 50 (please tell me you at least got this one!) > 3. Right > 4. Blue, red, white, yellow, black, and gold > 5. Q, Z > 6. 1, 0 > 7. Right > 8. 20 > 9. Red > 10. 88 > 11. Counter (unless you happen to be south of the equator) > 12. Towards bottom right > 13. 12 (no #1) > 14. Left > 15. Top > 16. Clockwise as you look at it > 17. Roosevelt > 18. 8 > 19. Left > 20. 5 > 21. 6 > 22. Bashful > 23. 8 > 24. Did you notice there wasn't one ? > 25. Ace of spades > 26. Left > 27. ONE > 28. *, # > 29. 3 > 30. Counter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:30:52 -0400 From: "Brian Nicklas" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Sorta OT: North Carolina Message-ID: Chris, I don't know where you are, but in the mid-Atlantic area, the NC quarter is on the streets in general circulation. And Matt is right, one of the Ohio designs also has a Wright Flyer, but there are four choices for the Govenor to chose from. I recall that one of the others may have a Mercury spacecraft, the other an astronaut. Ohio claims the Wrights, John Glenn and Neil Armstrong. I guess this is close as the US will ever get to having biplanes on the coins... Brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:35:05 -0500 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: SPAM and MAPS Message-ID: <3ACDC609.462F046B@x25.net> I remember when they got Dale and you did try for some others as well with no luck. A little forgiving isn't bad. Lee Allan Wright wrote: > RBL is more of a community driven scheme - I find it easier to deal with. > They much less often 'nuke' people for accidental offenses. That's why I > went with them. > > Allan > > =============================================================================== > Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside > University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- > Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org > Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org > =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:04:15 -0300 From: "dfernet0" To: Subject: RE: Salmson floor (was: A bit of help on the Hi Tech Roland DII) Message-ID: <012001c0bea2$440791a0$4640a8c0@ssp.salud.rosario.gov.ar> Jim wrote: > I face the same question for my Salmson pilot's cockpit. No photos or > drawings I've seen give any clue. I hadn't posted a question because I > assumed nobody would know if "Mr. Salmson" (me) didn't. > Does anybody? Not me! :-( Have you checked any wreck picture of Salmsons? They prove to be very useful to discover innards and odds and pieces. D. dead horse rider ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:10:22 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Your own modeling style WAS: You guyes (...) Message-ID: Good example Dave, I used to build lots of Revell Spad XIII's, I thought they looked great. Then I started banging Airfix Spads together, and the Revell ones began to look more and more wrong. They're fine on their own, but overscale compared to Airfix. Now I don't think I could build another Revell Spad, they make me feel sad. /Neil Dave wrote: > > 4. shape or dimensions. > > > > 'Form' ! i.e shape and dimensions An example - The Revell > SPAD XIII (1/72) - it > looks like a SPAD, but I can't get round that it looks overscale. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:17:49 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Boxkite Message-ID: <007301c0bea4$5c07c160$4ba372d4@FRITZweb> Witold, tell hom he should built it OOB. All the reference I have is from Peter Lewis 'British Aircraft 1809 - 1914' , Putnam, 1962. ( 1809, that's correct: Caley's first attempt to construct a glider). Life-Like's kit represents a Bristol Military Boxkite which did have a larger span than the 'standard' Boxkite. Several engines where used, the kit looks like to have 50 h.p. or 70 h.p. Gnome, but I am not sure. Shuttleworth does still run the replica from 'Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines', take a look at http://www.op.dlr.de/FF-DR/dr_fs/staff/krueger/PICS/bristol_box.jpg Caution: Short wing! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:20:15 +0700 From: Volker Haeusler To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: A little something to break the fun we are having Message-ID: OK, I give it a try: Hans asked: 1. In which direction does a Fokker DR 1 engine rotate ( form the pilots view)? right/clockwise 2. How many rounds does a standard Lewis drum hold? 47 3. Which brake system does a Roland C. II use? claw type, mounted centrally on the spreader bar 4. How many WWI colours are available from Humbrol? None at this time, originally 6 (HB15/16, HG 7 to 10) 5. What was the first WWI a/c kit in plastic? Heck, I guess there was a Penguin "baked plastic WW I kit - was that the Camel. Definitely the original Penguin Camel was wood/metal... 6. Was there ever a 1/100 scale Fokker DR I? Who did it make? Faller (their only WW I kit), reissued recently by Deichmann 7. What is the smallest scale WWI a/c kits (injection moulded) was available? 1/200 Mercator (just guessing - the smallest I´ve ever seen) 8. What does your kids have for breakfast when the found a tiny Fokker D VIII in the package? Kellogs (Coco Pops, IIRC) - what else? Volker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:36:40 -0400 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Apology Message-ID: <002d01c0bea6$ff277b40$a4454c0c@tom> Hi Everyone- I apologize for sending the SPAM back. Thank you Lee, Allen, et al, for the words of warning and explanation. I will certainly be cautious about sending/re-sending. Again, I apologize. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:37:15 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Apology Message-ID: Well, the important thing is that you are obviously still with us, great! /Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: TOM PLESHA [mailto:APPMAN@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: den 6 april 2001 16:38 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Apology > > > Hi Everyone- > I apologize for sending the SPAM back. Thank you Lee, Allen, > et al, for the > words of warning and explanation. > I will certainly be cautious about sending/re-sending. > Again, I apologize. > Tom > ------------------------------ Date: 6 Apr 2001 07:38:56 -0700 From: Mark Miller To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: Gaston and the Amish Message-ID: <20010406143856.13723.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> On Fri, 06 April 2001, "Gaston Graf" wrote: > > Andrei, > > thanks a lot for the info. To me it is no question that I look at the Amish > people in great respect. I do not see them as some kind of a tourist > attraction one "must" see if visiting the US. I am only curious to meet them > if this could be possible. As long as your in Lancaster county - and if you like steam engines (my 2nd favorite machine) check out the Railroad museam of Pa in Strausberg It's got a huge selection of Pennsy locomotives, and a nice little tourist railroad right in the middle of Amish farm country. good stuff I don't think there's any OT attractions in the area well except for Rosemont Hobby Store - Mark Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:43:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Apology Message-ID: <200104061443.KAA06497@pease1.sr.unh.edu> Well said Neil! Ditto from me. Allan > Well, the important thing is that you are obviously > still with us, great! > /Neil > > > From: TOM PLESHA [mailto:APPMAN@worldnet.att.net] > > Subject: Apology > > > > Hi Everyone- > > I apologize for sending the SPAM back. Thank you Lee, Allen, > > et al, for the > > words of warning and explanation. > > I will certainly be cautious about sending/re-sending. > > Again, I apologize. > > Tom =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:45:15 -0400 From: "Muth and Zulick" To: Subject: Re: Your own modeling style WAS: You guyes (...) Message-ID: <020f01c0bea8$31d994a0$0100005a@ptd.net> > > 1. quantity or quality Er, I may be the only one to admit this so far, but I probably err more on the side of quantity. The idea of taking a year or so wouldn't be fun for me any more. I also aren't very good at conversions that require lots of sanding, cutting, etc. I try to make things look reasonably accurate, but don't go too far beyond ootb. > 2. best researched subject or best demanded subject Probably an Albatros > 3. detailing or painting Definitely painting. Those fiddly bits have gotten the best of me once too often. > 4. shape or dimensions. > I always prefer Nieuport looking like Nieuport, but never bother with > underscaling or too big span. Also I wouldn't sand all Eindecker ribs in > order to reduce or increase their number if it deteriorated overal quality > of the surface. On the other hand I would sand an edge of a cowling if it > looked too sharp. Nothing to add to this comment except Me Too > > 5. Fixed modeling standard of an "anarchy" I try to do both scales, but lately have been drifting away from 1/72 due to a stsrange problem. I alsways used to do both scales, but only rigged 1/48. Then I started rigging the tiny ones and decided that they must be rigged. However, the rigging is harder than my first few successful efforts. When I get a little bored/tired of WWI (hardly ever) I do a Wildcat. Mike Muth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:47:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Allan Wright To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Gaston and the Amish Message-ID: <200104061447.KAA06567@pease1.sr.unh.edu> > As long as your in Lancaster county - and if you like steam engines (my 2nd favorite machine) > check out the Railroad museam of Pa in Strausberg > It's got a huge selection of Pennsy locomotives, and a nice little tourist railroad > right in the middle of Amish farm country. good stuff > I don't think there's any OT attractions in the area > well except for Rosemont Hobby Store - Rosemont is a pilgrimage worth making. Barry is one of the most gracious hosts you could ever meet. The first time I went there he welcomed me into the store and immediately told me that no place was off limits: Behind the counter displays, files of decals, etc. He even showed me his vacuform and resin making machinery in 'the back room'. Left there with a trunkfull of stuff - LOL! He has a lot of misc. stuff there that doesn't make the website because it's low quantities, so if you go make sure you have some time.... Also of interest is the usual displays of built on-topic models which are superb as you would expect. Al =============================================================================== Allan Wright Jr. | Without love life's just a long fight - Southside University of New Hampshire +-------------------------------------------------- Research Computing Center | WWI Modeling mailing list: wwi@wwi-models.org Internet: aew@unh.edu | WWI Modeling WWW Page: http://www.wwi-models.org =============================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:42:40 -0500 From: Dennis Ugulano To: "INTERNET:wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu" Subject: Gotha review Message-ID: <200104060942_MC2-CB84-3A58@compuserve.com> Everyone, To all and especially those building or considering the Roden Gotha. If you have not gone over to the Roll Models web site ( www.rollmodels ) go check out Steve Hustad's excellent review of the kit. He goes tree by tree and the decals. The only thing he didn't review was the box itself. :-) I wish I had read it before I started mine. This is an excellent and well written review. Then as an added bonus, you get to see my Gotha build again. (Oh, my God no, not again!!!) Consider Brent offer of putting a build and review on their web site. Hey, untold fame and free stuff at the same time is not a bad offer. Well, free stuff anyway. I may be reaching a little on the untold fame. Dennis Ugulano email: Uggies@compuserve.com http://ronnieuggie.com/uggie/dju.htm Page Revised 3/10/01 "Each modeler will rise to their own level of masochism." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:49:48 +0200 From: Crawford Neil To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Your own modeling style WAS: You guyes (...) Message-ID: I love this last comment! /Neil > When I get a little bored/tired of WWI (hardly ever) I do a Wildcat. > Mike Muth > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:47:08 -0500 From: "DAVID BURKE" To: Subject: Re: A little something to break the fun we are having Message-ID: <006d01c0bea8$97583f20$b8a31e3f@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 8:35 AM Subject: Re: A little something to break the fun we are having > Hmpf. Could not answer more than 10. Very,very U.S, I presume? > What's about that? > > 1. In which direction does a Fokker DR 1 engine rotate ( form the pilots > view)? > 2. How many rounds does a standard Lewis drum hold? > 3. Which brake system does a Roland C. II use? > 4. How many WWI colours are available from Humbrol? > 5. What was the first WWI a/c kit in plastic? > 6. Was there ever a 1/100 scale Fokker DR I? Who did it make? > 7. What is the smallest scale WWI a/c kits (injection moulded) was > available? > 8. What does your kids have for breakfast when the found a tiny Fokker D > VIII in the package? > Damn Hans! You're making me feel like a retard! I didn't know a single one of them! DB ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3256 **********************