WWI Digest 3249 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Robert Fabris by Todd Hayes 2) Re: a Q to the real pilots by "David C. Fletcher" 3) Re: a Q to the real pilots by Ernest Thomas 4) RE: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar by Brent Theobald 5) RE: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar by Brent Theobald 6) Re: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar by MAnde72343@aol.com 7) Brent's Jet Lag was counter-rotative model engines by Brent Theobald 8) Re: a Q to the real pilots by "Tom Solinski" 9) Re: a Q to the real pilots by CAUhlir@aol.com 10) Re: Windsock GA Drawings Accuracy by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 11) Re: Spad XII by "mdf@mars.ark.com" 12) Re: Nieuport IV by "Len Smith" 13) You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA Drawings Accuracy) by "Tom Solinski" 14) RE: You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA D by Shane Weier 15) RE: You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA by "Jay M. Thompson" 16) Re: You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA by Al Superczynski 17) Blow By Models? by Brent Theobald 18) RE: Blow By Models? by Shane Weier 19) Amish Computer Virus by Brent Theobald ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:59:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Robert Fabris Message-ID: <20010405005956.4214.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Lost another address! Bob, good news. The DF Specials finally arrived. Thanks. Todd __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:10:40 -0700 From: "David C. Fletcher" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: a Q to the real pilots Message-ID: <3ACBD420.10308@mars.ark.com> Gaston Graf wrote: "There's really no better medecine than beer ;o)." A professional aviator would never admit to having a beer - "debriefing fluid" is a much more subtle description. All aviation requires concentration, or else gravity takes over. It becomes easier with practice, but even experienced pilots go through the problems of 'time compression' if they are away from the cockpit for a while. I'm going through withdrawal symptoms as I still have my aeroplane (1:1 scale) scattered in pieces for a mid-life refit. Why did you have to bring up flying?!? Dave Fletcher Volmer Vj-22 C-GHTY -- Visit us at our Home Page: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:24:38 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: a Q to the real pilots Message-ID: <3ACBD766.22AB609A@bellsouth.net> Gaston, I also find myself a bit exhausted after flying. Jay and David both offered great advice. E. "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:26:06 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608EB7@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD77.C4F51D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy, The answer is simple. Actually making it less -----Original Message----- From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Argentina Brent! As you may have imagined I spent many boring reunions at work musing about this... And still boggles the mind to imagine a small mechanism to achieve this, hidden inside the stubby Siemens-Schukert fuselage. Of course, as I'm modeling an Albatros with a stationary Mercedes engine it has saved me from such deliriums. For now. The device for counter rotation must be a simple gear system, but who would be capable to do that from scratch. It would need of a clockwork machinery inside. Maybe when I decide to do the Toko SS D.III I'll have to become friend of a clockmaker. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent Theobald > "PS: Yesterday I had to accept the rules of life and I'll leave the Albatros > D.II propeller unable to spin." > > The hard part is getting the engine to counter-rotate :) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD77.C4F51D90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Argentina

Howdy,

The answer is simple. Actually making it less

-----Original Message-----
From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:37 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in
Argentina


Brent!
As you may have imagined I spent many boring reunions at work musing about
this... And still boggles the mind to imagine a small mechanism to achieve
this, hidden inside the stubby Siemens-Schukert fuselage. Of course, as I'm
modeling an Albatros with a stationary Mercedes engine it has saved me from
such deliriums. For now.
The device for counter rotation must be a simple gear system, but who would
be capable to do that from scratch. It would need of a clockwork machinery
inside. Maybe when I decide to do the Toko SS D.III I'll have to become
friend of a clockmaker.
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brent Theobald <btheobal@sta.samsung.com
>
> "PS: Yesterday I had to accept the rules of life and I'll leave the
Albatros
> D.II propeller unable to spin."
>
> The hard part is getting the engine to counter-rotate :)

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD77.C4F51D90-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:37:40 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608EB8@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD79.6263E420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy! The answer is simple. Actually making it less so. What you need is 2 gears and ring gear. The first gear is attached to the prop shaft. The ring gear is mounted to the back of the engine. The second gear is mounted in between the prop shaft gear and the ring gear. The problem with this is the ring gear might be visible. You can also to it with just three gears, but I am afraid you would run out of space. If you are going to do all that work you may as well install a watch motor and battery too. If you want I might could send you a sketch of these two ideas. Later! Brent -----Original Message----- From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Argentina Brent! As you may have imagined I spent many boring reunions at work musing about this... And still boggles the mind to imagine a small mechanism to achieve this, hidden inside the stubby Siemens-Schukert fuselage. Of course, as I'm modeling an Albatros with a stationary Mercedes engine it has saved me from such deliriums. For now. The device for counter rotation must be a simple gear system, but who would be capable to do that from scratch. It would need of a clockwork machinery inside. Maybe when I decide to do the Toko SS D.III I'll have to become friend of a clockmaker. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent Theobald > "PS: Yesterday I had to accept the rules of life and I'll leave the Albatros > D.II propeller unable to spin." > > The hard part is getting the engine to counter-rotate :) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD79.6263E420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in = Argentina

Howdy!

The answer is simple. Actually making it less so. = What you need is 2 gears and ring gear. The first gear is attached to = the prop shaft. The ring gear is mounted to the back of the engine. The = second gear is mounted in between the prop shaft gear and the ring = gear. The problem with this is the ring gear might be visible. You can = also to it with just three gears, but I am afraid you would run out of = space. If you are going to do all that work you may as well install a = watch motor and battery too.

If you want I might could send you a sketch of these = two ideas.

Later!

Brent

-----Original Message-----
From: dfernet0 [mailto:dfernet0@rosario.gov.ar]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:37 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long = weekend's down in
Argentina


Brent!
As you may have imagined I spent many boring = reunions at work musing about
this... And still boggles the mind to imagine a = small mechanism to achieve
this, hidden inside the stubby Siemens-Schukert = fuselage. Of course, as I'm
modeling an Albatros with a stationary Mercedes = engine it has saved me from
such deliriums. For now.
The device for counter rotation must be a simple = gear system, but who would
be capable to do that from scratch. It would need of = a clockwork machinery
inside. Maybe when I decide to do the Toko SS D.III = I'll have to become
friend of a clockmaker.
D.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brent Theobald = <btheobal@sta.samsung.com
>
> "PS: Yesterday I had to accept the rules = of life and I'll leave the
Albatros
> D.II propeller unable to spin."
>
> The hard part is getting the engine to = counter-rotate :)

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD79.6263E420-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:42:55 EDT From: MAnde72343@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: counter-rotative model engines WAS: long weekend's down in Ar Message-ID: <23.9cd8ffe.27fd35af@aol.com> --part1_23.9cd8ffe.27fd35af_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brent, you jet lagged yet? You must be in about the same time zone as Shane these days, for me tomorrow afternoon. Merrill --part1_23.9cd8ffe.27fd35af_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brent, you jet lagged yet? You must be in about the same time zone as Shane
these days, for me tomorrow afternoon.
Merrill --part1_23.9cd8ffe.27fd35af_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:54:49 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Brent's Jet Lag was counter-rotative model engines Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608EBA@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD7B.C7D55D50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey Merrill, I'm doin' pretty good. The clock here is 14 hours ahead of USA central time zone. So I get to be awake for business in Korea and then be available for business conference calls from USA. I sleep when I can, which is no problem. I can sleep almost anywhere and anytime. I should have brought a vac to sand or something. Today is Korean holiday (Arbor Day) and businesses are closed. So I only had to work the USA side today. >Brent, you jet lagged yet? You must be in about the same time zone as Shane >these days, for me tomorrow afternoon. Later! Brent PS: MIME encoding was on ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD7B.C7D55D50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brent's Jet Lag was counter-rotative model engines

Hey Merrill,

I'm doin' pretty good. The clock here is 14 hours = ahead of USA central time zone. So I get to be awake for business in = Korea and then be available for business conference calls from USA. I = sleep when I can, which is no problem. I can sleep almost anywhere and = anytime.

I should have brought a vac to sand or something. = Today is Korean holiday (Arbor Day) and businesses are closed. So I = only had to work the USA side today.

>Brent, you jet lagged yet? You must be in about = the same time zone as Shane
>these days, for me tomorrow afternoon.

Later!

Brent

PS: MIME encoding was on

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD7B.C7D55D50-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:40:08 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: Re: a Q to the real pilots Message-ID: <00c801c0bd82$1cd393c0$a6a20d41@okcnc1.ok.home.com> > > how did you feel after your first flying lessons? Actually after the first lesson I was dissappointed, I had been "riding" with my dad most of my life, and since I trimmed the airplane in cruise, the instructor said I was already up to lesson 10. >I noticed that I feel really happy but also I feel quite a bit exhausted when on the ground again. You are concentrating at a level higher than you have ever done before in an environment that doesn't let you relax. > Last time I flew for about 75 min (turns, basic handling, two touch and go's etc) and by the end of the lesson my instructor > said to me that I am growing tired - that guy really notices every little mistake :o). PSSST that's what you're paying him the big Dollars, Marks, Fennings, Euro's for! > After my last flying lesson I felt so exhausted that I really needed a cold > beer. That was like a recovery drink for my brain. There's really no better > medecine than beer ;o). It has been said that SR-71 crews were required to drink two beers after the flight to calm down and rehydrate. > > happy landings As soon as the kids are out of college Tom S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:52:45 EDT From: CAUhlir@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: a Q to the real pilots Message-ID: <8b.4b20202.27fd460d@aol.com> Gaston, learning to fly is very mentally tiring. Your description brings memories of my recent flying lessons. If you want to know what being really exhausting is, just wait to see how you feel after you pass your check ride. I was emotionally on top of the world, and pure exhausted!! All I did that night was take a very hot bath followed by an early night to bed. It is a great feeling!! Candice ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 00:43:35 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Windsock GA Drawings Accuracy Message-ID: <3ACBF7F7.19857055@mars.ark.com> There's several problems with doing drawings - first is unless you have a survivor it is very hard to do the drawings. I took several years to complete my Nieuport VI.H drawings and it wasn't until later when I realized how these are done so quickly by the people in the industry (and after I gave up on doing it for a living). The Windsock drawings are **tracings** of period drawings, many of which I have posted on my site (one the the reasons I post them actually), and when there are several good drawings available they often differ because the original artist probably had no more access to the real thing than we do today. I have seen measurments for length and wingspan differ by feet (on a single engined aircraft no less), and to make it even more interesting the individual aircraft vary so much that several machines need to be measured, compared to each other and then compared to photographs of others, just to determine which measurement looks to be the most common. The Germans were comparing the Nieuport scouts they had captured and their conlusion was that the Italian made ones were better built, while no two French ones seem to have come even from the same factory. This was before dozens of shadow factories even started building Nieuports - so imagine what happened then. Mike Fletcher nb: Nieuport 12 drawings done from measurements of two different machines :) Andreikor@aol.com wrote: > > Hi all, > Considering the recent discussion about the accuracy of GA drawings, I > thought I'd throw this out: I was speaking recently with a master model maker > (who shall remain nameless) who often uses the plans in Windsock to create > his masters. He also routinely compares the plans with actual dimensions > garnered from various sources and claims he has noticed discrepancies in said > drawings quite often... even to the degree that he questions whether this is > done intentionally to foil manufacturers. I'd hate to think so, as that would > make the drawings virtually useless, but I wonder how many of us take the > time and trouble to check these drawings' accuracy, as opposed to accepting > them as is because of their source. Either there is alot of conflicting data > around, or what has become accepted as the WWI modelers' Bible isn't always > 100% accurate, either. > Cheers, > Andrei > > Andrei Koribanics II > 8 Falcon Place > Wayne, NJ 07470 > Voice/Fax: 973-696-9378 > email: andreikor@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 00:48:41 -0400 From: "mdf@mars.ark.com" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Spad XII Message-ID: <3ACBF929.AA4D8D1E@mars.ark.com> What do you expect - no-one has actually managed to sort out the confusion that seems to exist between the 2 and the 4. If I get bored with Nieuports that is two I'd like to tackle. Mike F. Matt Bittner wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:08:09 -0400 (EDT), dfernet0 wrote: > > > True. However they are not perfect and they're far from definitive. Examples > > are the Albatros D.II drawings, wich are better on the original datafile > > than in the Albatros fighter Special (altough the newest version has a pair > > of details lacking in the first) Also, the Halberstadt Special has a wrong > > undercarriage in the drawings (Thanks RK!) and the FE8 drawings has all the > > views in different scales (thanks Len!)... > > Be careful... measure twice, scratchbuild once. > > And then there are the SPAD A.2/A.4 drawings. Totally and completly > wrong in the Mini-DF! > > Matt Bittner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:07:49 +0100 From: "Len Smith" To: Subject: Re: Nieuport IV Message-ID: <000c01c0bd8e$82b85ca0$6d5c08c3@mesh> Diego, > I found this! > http://www.mae.org/images/mae172.jpg > > Looks different, huh? > D. > > He also told me that the NiIV in the Paris Air Museum was also > > quite dark, but much more brown. > > /Neil It should look different, the Nieuport in Paris is a Type IIN, not a IV, built in 1919 by the Nieuport factory for the Museum. Regards Len. lensmith@clara.net http://home.clara.net/lensmith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:09:38 -0500 From: "Tom Solinski" To: Subject: You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA Drawings Accuracy) Message-ID: <000801c0bd8e$9d8022c0$a6a20d41@okcnc1.ok.home.com> Ya' know I stopped going to IPMS meetings because of the same track you folks are on. The seeds of AMS. Mistress Lorna's editorial on being buried in data, now in light of this thread is all questionable. Is there anyone else on this list that is an SOB Slammer like me? I sometime catch a glimpse of the joy of the masochism some of you get by spending days detailing a cockpit that will never be seen again, and cost you a ribbon because the colo(u)r police decided the south end of the compass needle was the wrong shade of @#(*$&!(!&# red and pointing in the wrong direction to boot. I recall a thread that someone wanted to do the Seven swaibins (sorry on the spelling) but was not satisfied that the decals represented the aircraft at Rhinebeck, wich is just ever so slightly off from the real thing. Come on folks chill out! You sound like you going to have a nervous breakdown if a wing panel on a model of an airplane that no longer exsits is one scale foot too long or too short depending on which inaccurate drawing you claim is correct, again without a single real example to measure off of. Of course it gets worse translating from the one true measure, regal body parts into logical metric. To Shane and the rest of the Aussies it's all upside down to boot! Sheeeeeesh!!!! Throw the references away for once, build the kit (not critisize) and HAVE FUN!!! Back to lurking under my green/yellow cowl Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:39:03 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA D Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748EB5@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Tom says: (a bunch, snipped) > > Throw the references away for once, build the kit (not > critisize) and HAVE FUN!!! Does this mean that the peole who are having fun trying to pin down *accuracy* to their own satisfaction should leave the list? Or that their fun isn't *real* fun? Did any of them ever suggest tossing out any of the OoB builders? I doubt it. Dicta Ira doesn't mean "Have fun *my* way" (and I'm damn sure that you know that anyway, but I'm sick of arguing with people elsewhere that it isn't a sin to be different in the way you do something) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 01:10:29 -0500 From: "Jay M. Thompson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: RE: You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA Message-ID: Tom, I think you've effectively expressed what's right for you. The thing is, modelers who go into insane detail (me among them, although I do the digital modeling now much more than "in the round"...the DVII image many of you saw recently, well that model has the entire cockpit built down to every nut and bolt and tube clip- I even scanned an image I had of the compass face, and texture mapped it to the compass object...I forget which way N pointed, but whatever way it was pointed was RIGHT dammit), well that's how THEY have fun. Arguing over and stressing whether the rudder outline on the Dr.I is off by 1.3 mm or 1.35mm. Digging obsessively through photographic references for hours because you know that you have that one somewhere that shows the throttle quadrant, even though you know bloody well that only people who come preinstalled with X-ray eyes will ever see it. YOU know it's there, and that it's right, and that's what counts. Making me work from known to be inaccurate drawings and not caring whether that rudder outline is right or not would drive me as crazy as forcing you to build a throttle quadrant that no one will ever see. Modeling is wonderful in that it provides as many ways to have fun as there are kinds of people. In other words, live and let live; if you enjoy building straight from the box, more power to you. If someone else wants to build a cockpit that has instrument dials assembled from individual styrene molecules, more power to them too. -----Original Message----- From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of Tom Solinski Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA Drawings Accuracy) Ya' know I stopped going to IPMS meetings because of the same track you folks are on. The seeds of AMS. Mistress Lorna's editorial on being buried in data, now in light of this thread is all questionable. Is there anyone else on this list that is an SOB Slammer like me? I sometime catch a glimpse of the joy of the masochism some of you get by spending days detailing a cockpit that will never be seen again, and cost you a ribbon because the colo(u)r police decided the south end of the compass needle was the wrong shade of @#(*$&!(!&# red and pointing in the wrong direction to boot. I recall a thread that someone wanted to do the Seven swaibins (sorry on the spelling) but was not satisfied that the decals represented the aircraft at Rhinebeck, wich is just ever so slightly off from the real thing. Come on folks chill out! You sound like you going to have a nervous breakdown if a wing panel on a model of an airplane that no longer exsits is one scale foot too long or too short depending on which inaccurate drawing you claim is correct, again without a single real example to measure off of. Of course it gets worse translating from the one true measure, regal body parts into logical metric. To Shane and the rest of the Aussies it's all upside down to boot! Sheeeeeesh!!!! Throw the references away for once, build the kit (not critisize) and HAVE FUN!!! Back to lurking under my green/yellow cowl Tom S OKC If you aren't making waves, you aren't making headway! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 01:14:23 -0500 From: Al Superczynski To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: You guyes are beginning to really scare me was( Windsock GA Message-ID: Dicta Ira....... Al ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:18:39 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Blow By Models? Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608EBD@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD98.4108D370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy! I don't know about ya'll but I as accumulating a number of "blow by" models. These are models that are started, usually with the fusealage assembled and wings on, that never get worked on again. Why is that? My number one reason (okay... excuse) is that the model has been neglected for so long that my modeling skills have really improved. I have no interest in completing a model that was started in such a shabby way. Perhaps there is a flaw I am waiting for the skills to correct. What about ya'll? Brent PS: How's the Caproni coming Shane? You can't let DB finish his Gotha before your Caproni. :-) I'm not interested in discussing either of my Capronies :-) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD98.4108D370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Blow By Models?

Howdy!

I don't know about ya'll but I as accumulating a = number of "blow by" models. These are models that are = started, usually with the fusealage assembled and wings on, that never = get worked on again.

Why is that?

My number one reason (okay... excuse) is that the = model has been neglected for so long that my modeling skills have = really improved. I have no interest in completing a model that was = started in such a shabby way. Perhaps there is a flaw I am waiting for = the skills to correct.

What about ya'll?

Brent

PS: How's the Caproni coming Shane? You can't let DB = finish his Gotha before your Caproni. :-) I'm not interested in = discussing either of my Capronies :-)

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD98.4108D370-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:35:40 +1000 From: Shane Weier To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: RE: Blow By Models? Message-ID: <7186131CB805D411A60E0090272F7C7101748EB8@mimhexch1.mim.com.au> Brent, > I don't know about ya'll but I as accumulating a number of > "blow by" models. > These are models that are started, usually with the fusealage > assembled and > wings on, that never get worked on again. > > Why is that? ALL my models are going to get worked on again. You believe that? Wanna buy this nice bridge? > Perhaps there > is a flaw I am waiting for the skills to correct. > > What about ya'll? Same situation, different excuse. I just "need more info" > PS: How's the Caproni coming Shane? You can't let DB finish > his Gotha before > your Caproni. :-) I'm not interested in discussing either of > my Capronies :-) Ahhh, errrr. Yeah, well I have to finish these two review kits first. Other than that and lack of time I have no excuse anyone would believe, especially DB, who is sacrificing himself to the greater good by trying to beat Eduard to the punch. Me, I'm right out of "selfless sacrifice" today :-) Shane ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). If you receive this e-mail in error, any use, distribution or copying of this e-mail is not permitted. You are requested to forward unwanted e-mail and address any problems to the MIM Holdings Limited Support Centre. e-mail: supportcentre@mim.com.au phone: Australia 1800500646 ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:39:02 -0500 From: Brent Theobald To: "'wwi@wwi-models.org'" Subject: Amish Computer Virus Message-ID: <4B9386E83999D411997100508BAF206A01608EC0@stamail.telecom.sna.samsung.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD9B.1A0BB7D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You have just received the Amish virus. As we don't have any technology or programming experience, this virus works on the honor system. Please delete all the files from your hard drive and manually forward this virus to everyone on your mailing list. Thank you for your cooperation. Amish Computer Engineering Dept. ============================================================================ = PS: This is a joke. For all of you who don't live in North America the Amish are a religious group here who shun all technology after about 1850. Brent ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD9B.1A0BB7D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amish Computer Virus

You  have just received the Amish virus. As we = don't have any technology or
programming experience, this virus works on the = honor system. Please delete
all the files from your hard drive and manually = forward this virus to
everyone on your mailing list. Thank you for = your  cooperation.
Amish Computer Engineering Dept.

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PS: This is a joke. For all of you who don't live in = North America the Amish are a religious group here who shun all = technology after about 1850.

Brent

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