WWI Digest 3237 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by NodalPoint@aol.com 2) Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "Hans Trauner" 3) The price of Datafiles by NodalPoint@aol.com 4) RE: The price of Datafiles by "Ray Boorman" 5) Re: The price of Datafiles by "Courtney Allen" 6) Re: bis by "Alberto Casirati" 7) Testors thinners by "Ken Zelnick" 8) Re: bis by philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be (Philippe Spriesterbach) 9) Re: Testors thinners by KarrArt@aol.com 10) Re: The price of Datafiles by "Brad & Merville" 11) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "TOM PLESHA" 12) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "John & Allison Cyganowski" 13) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "Bob Pearson" 14) Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by Ernest Thomas 15) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "Hans Trauner" 16) Hey Anglo-Saxons by Ernest Thomas 17) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "Lee J. Mensinger" 18) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "TOM PLESHA" 19) Re: Belgian N11 dope? was [RE: nieuport IV yellow dope] by "cameron rile" 20) Re: The price of Datafiles by Ernest Thomas 21) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "Hans Trauner" 22) Catagory at Austin Model Show by "Mark Shannon" 23) Re: Questions regarding Datafile Special:Fokker D-VII Anthology 1 by pugs99@att.net 24) Re: Hey Anglo-Saxons by "aa8." 25) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by Todd Hayes 26) Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a by "TOM PLESHA" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:49:56 EST From: NodalPoint@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <2d.99d5d5d.27f772c4@aol.com> The 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a on e-bay is at $560 with 5 hours to go on the auction. My questions; how much were these museum kits when they were still in production, how long ago was that, and, aside from how bad someone wants something, are these kits so good that they are worth that much? Any chance they will re-issue soemthing like this again. Steve > > Here it is: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=573946937 > > > > There it goes....SWMBO was not swayed by the "good > investment" argument. > :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:58:23 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <001501c0ba0c$2e231980$2aa372d4@FRITZweb> Shane wrote: > I have the 1/16 Albatros they did... No! Really? April 1st is still a few hours away... Did they really make a 1/16 scale Albatros WW 1 fighter?? I HAVE TO KNOW THAT! I am addicted to Albatrose ! Help me! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:58:41 EST From: NodalPoint@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: The price of Datafiles Message-ID: I'm trying to build a decent WWI avaiation reference library and am starting to get a few datafiles. I just can't seem to find them for what I would consider reasonable prices. How much are people paying for Datafiles that are out of print? $25 seems to be the going rate at the online book dealers that carry them. I couldn't buy too many at that price. I've seen list members sell or trade some here and the prices are a lot more agreeable, I just seem to always be late in checking my e-mail so they are gone by then. How come these are so pricey? Is it because they don't print many to begin with? Or do people not mind the $25 or so? Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:21:12 -0800 From: "Ray Boorman" To: Subject: RE: The price of Datafiles Message-ID: Steve, #'s 33 through to the present are still available from the publisher for around 15. USD each. All the mini datafiles and the specials are also available. So dont go paying the really high price until you check if the datafile is in print. They have a website I think. Also do a online search for Wise Owl or Hannants Hangar. They sell them or did at a reasonable price. Ray > -----Original Message----- > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > NodalPoint@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:06 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: The price of Datafiles > > > > I'm trying to build a decent WWI avaiation reference library and > am starting > to get a few datafiles. I just can't seem to find them for what I would > consider reasonable prices. > > How much are people paying for Datafiles that are out of print? > $25 seems to > be the going rate at the online book dealers that carry them. I > couldn't buy > too many at that price. > > I've seen list members sell or trade some here and the prices are > a lot more > agreeable, I just seem to always be late in checking my e-mail so > they are > gone by then. > > How come these are so pricey? Is it because they don't print many > to begin > with? Or do people not mind the $25 or so? > > Steve > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:56:11 -0800 From: "Courtney Allen" To: Subject: Re: The price of Datafiles Message-ID: <002501c0ba14$416627a0$1a43510c@worldnet.att.net> I picked up datafiles #1 thru #6 for $16 ea. a couple months ago form TENNANT'S AVIATION BOOKS. All in excellent condition. Check them out. Their address is below. Courtney TENNANT'S AVIATION BOOKS, P.O. BOX 1695, AUBURN, WA 98071-1695. TENNGB@aol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Boorman" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:30 AM Subject: RE: The price of Datafiles > Steve, > #'s 33 through to the present are still available from the publisher for > around 15. USD each. All the mini datafiles and the specials are also > available. > So dont go paying the really high price until you check if the datafile is > in print. They have a website I think. Also do a online search for Wise Owl > or Hannants Hangar. They sell them or did at a reasonable price. > > Ray > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wwi@wwi-models.org [mailto:wwi@wwi-models.org]On Behalf Of > > NodalPoint@aol.com > > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 10:06 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: The price of Datafiles > > > > > > > > I'm trying to build a decent WWI avaiation reference library and > > am starting > > to get a few datafiles. I just can't seem to find them for what I would > > consider reasonable prices. > > > > How much are people paying for Datafiles that are out of print? > > $25 seems to > > be the going rate at the online book dealers that carry them. I > > couldn't buy > > too many at that price. > > > > I've seen list members sell or trade some here and the prices are > > a lot more > > agreeable, I just seem to always be late in checking my e-mail so > > they are > > gone by then. > > > > How come these are so pricey? Is it because they don't print many > > to begin > > with? Or do people not mind the $25 or so? > > > > Steve > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:52:29 +0200 From: "Alberto Casirati" To: "WW1 Modeling List" Subject: Re: bis Message-ID: <001a01c0ba14$4f01bc80$e11e623e@s> "bis" is a Latin word, which literally means "two times" . It is also frequently used with the meaning of "second". It is of the same series as "ter", "quater", "quinques" etc. As has already been pointed out, those terms were frequently used to name successive variants of the same aircraft. Example: Fiat CR 32, CR32bis, CR32ter and CR32quater. All the very best, Alberto Casirati ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:18:01 -0600 From: "Ken Zelnick" To: Subject: Testors thinners Message-ID: <001c01c0ba17$4e2d9c40$1b67b4d0@tcac.net> Greetings, Do any of you chemologists out there know the difference between Testors brush cleaner, thinner, and airbrush thinner? Will common, everyday petroleum spirits do for any or all of these? My bank account thanks you in advance. Ken Zelnick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:39:06 GMT From: philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be (Philippe Spriesterbach) To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: bis Message-ID: <3ac62cc8.225050563@mail.pi.be> On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:15:24 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Hi Mack >You're quite correct. "bis" means second, as if "Mk 2" equivalent or "b" >There exist also a latin suffix for "Mk3" or "c" but I can't recall it right >now. >D. Latin suffix for second or "Mk2" = bis, for third or "Mk 3" = ter, for fourth or "Mk4" = quater, for fifth or "Mk5" = quinquies. Best regards -- Philippe Spriesterbach http://www.ping.be/phillipe_models/ philippe.spriesterbach@pi.be IPMS Belgium Member #F015 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:58:32 EST From: KarrArt@aol.com To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Testors thinners Message-ID: In a message dated 3/31/01 11:23:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, kzelnick@cox-internet.com writes: << Do any of you chemologists out there know the difference between Testors brush cleaner, thinner, and airbrush thinner? Will common, everyday petroleum spirits do for any or all of these? My bank account thanks you in advance. Ken Zelnick >> I've never had any problem using hardware-store paint thinner for any of these tasks! About twice a year I will give my airbrushes a good inside and out cleaning with laquer thinner, but for everyday stuff, good ol' fashioned thinner works fine for me. RK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:03:14 -0500 From: "Brad & Merville" To: Subject: Re: The price of Datafiles Message-ID: <001801c0ba1d$9fbaa0c0$c1885ad1@default> Steve Aviation World here in Toronto have a large quantity of back numbers in stock, including specials, ranging in price from $15 to $25 Canadian! Our dollar hit $0.63US this week and is well on the way to $0.62US. If ever there was an advantage to being American this is it! They are mail order specialists and postage shouldn't cost too much more. call toll free: 1-800-668-1987 or e-mail info@aviationworld.net see: www.aviationworld.net ask for Mark or Andy. I have no affiliation with Aviation World other than being a long time and satisfied customer. Brad Who's thinking about immigrating to Buffalo so I can cross border shop. PS Steve, if your not an American my apologies. ; ) -----Original Message----- From: NodalPoint@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: The price of Datafiles > >I'm trying to build a decent WWI avaiation reference library and am starting >to get a few datafiles. I just can't seem to find them for what I would >consider reasonable prices. > >How much are people paying for Datafiles that are out of print? $25 seems to >be the going rate at the online book dealers that carry them. I couldn't buy >too many at that price. > >I've seen list members sell or trade some here and the prices are a lot more >agreeable, I just seem to always be late in checking my e-mail so they are >gone by then. > >How come these are so pricey? Is it because they don't print many to begin >with? Or do people not mind the $25 or so? > >Steve > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:56:07 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <005901c0ba25$0295c560$38434c0c@tom> Hi Hans- I have a 1/16 alb kit, made by model airways, thought this would help the alb.addiction Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a > Shane wrote: > > > I have the 1/16 Albatros they did... > > No! Really? April 1st is still a few hours away... > Did they really make a 1/16 scale Albatros WW 1 fighter?? > I HAVE TO KNOW THAT! I am addicted to Albatrose ! Help me! > > Hans > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:51:17 -0500 From: "John & Allison Cyganowski" To: Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <003c01c0ba24$5658c0e0$7a38183f@cyrixp166> I think the 1/16 Albatros D.Va was not made by Hasegawa, but by Model Airways. When I last saw it it was ~$119 (US). I have seen a built up example that was beautiful. However there have been some complaints regarding fit. Another moan was over the fact that a spinner & metal cowl were not supplied. I think that there is nothing here that any of us could't handle. Ray Rimell did an extensive review of this kit in Windsock Vol. 14, No. 6, Nov/Dec 1998. Hasegawa made 4 Museum Quality kits that I am aware of. They made a Wright Flyer (I am not sure of the scale). They made the following WWI birds; 1/8 Fokker Triplane 1/8 Sopwith Camel 1/8 SE5a These kits are gorgeous. I have seen the Tripe & the Camel built up. I seem to recall seeing the SE5a in a hobbyshop high up on a pegboard. I have seen it unbuilt up close only once, in a certain WWI shrine in Toronto. Beautiful. I am not sure but my impression is that these kits date from the early to mid Eighties or so. By far the SE5a is the rarest of the breed. I have also heard that it is a difficult build. There was an old article on scratchbuilding an LVG C.VI by Ray in Finescale Modeler, where he used the basic Woodman techniques. The photo of the Author showed him working on the SE5a. These kits were multimedia and came with special tools plastic castings etc. You can sometimes see Hasegawa 1/8 Vickers or Spandau guns for sale on Ebay. I think that these were issued separately at one time. Squadron has the Camel & the Tripe from time to time. I think that these are not re-issues but "found stock". They are expensive $699 (US) or more. You almost never see the SE5a. I do not recall what the original list price was but I recall seeing them at $599 or so. I think you could get a discount when they were available, but not now. Regards, John Cyg. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Trauner To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:01 PM Subject: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a > Shane wrote: > > > I have the 1/16 Albatros they did... > > No! Really? April 1st is still a few hours away... > Did they really make a 1/16 scale Albatros WW 1 fighter?? > I HAVE TO KNOW THAT! I am addicted to Albatrose ! Help me! > > Hans > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:05:37 -0800 From: "Bob Pearson" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <200103311301.f2VD1sc94106@mail.rapidnet.net> Cyg says ... > There was an old article on > scratchbuilding an LVG C.VI by Ray in Finescale Modeler, where he used the > basic Woodman techniques. The photo of the Author showed him working on the > SE5a. In a later issue of Windsock, the SE5a is in the background and the caption says something to the effect of "yes he is still working on it" Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:11:12 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <3AC647F0.BEEB60F6@bellsouth.net> NodalPoint@aol.com wrote: > > The 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a on e-bay is at $560 with 5 hours to go on the auction. > My questions; how much were these museum kits when they were still in > production, how long ago was that, and, aside from how bad someone wants > something, are these kits so good that they are worth that much? They came out in the late 70's, early '80's, and went for either 3 or 400.oo US. E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:22:03 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <001701c0ba28$a18e7560$11a372d4@FRITZweb> > Hi Hans- > I have a 1/16 alb kit, made by model airways, thought this would help the > alb.addiction > Tom Thanks for the info. I never realised this kit, maybe it was not offered in europe. Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:23:20 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Hey Anglo-Saxons Message-ID: <3AC64AC8.96ECBD6@bellsouth.net> My friend misplaced the info we had already supplied him back in Feb. What's the name of the OOP plastics peddler who's shop is near Clapham Junction? Also, It sounds like he's only got about one day for doing OT stuff. What would be the best way for him to make Hannants, RAF Hendon, and this OOP guy in one day? Tia, E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:31:04 -0600 From: "Lee J. Mensinger" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <3AC64C97.B2A86A1D@x25.net> I believe the Hasegawa models came in the 70s. and they were over $200 even at that time. There is no comparison betrween the Hasegawa and the Model Airways models. You are correct as to current prices. Lee M. John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > I think the 1/16 Albatros D.Va was not made by Hasegawa, but by Model > Airways. When I last saw it it was ~$119 (US). I have seen a built up > example that was beautiful. However there have been some complaints > regarding fit. Another moan was over the fact that a spinner & metal cowl > were not supplied. I think that there is nothing here that any of us > could't handle. Ray Rimell did an extensive review of this kit in Windsock > Vol. 14, No. 6, Nov/Dec 1998. > > Hasegawa made 4 Museum Quality kits that I am aware of. They made a Wright > Flyer (I am not sure of the scale). They made the following WWI birds; > > 1/8 Fokker Triplane > 1/8 Sopwith Camel > 1/8 SE5a > > These kits are gorgeous. I have seen the Tripe & the Camel built up. I seem > to recall seeing the SE5a in a hobbyshop high up on a pegboard. I have seen > it unbuilt up close only once, in a certain WWI shrine in Toronto. > Beautiful. I am not sure but my impression is that these kits date from the > early to mid Eighties or so. By far the SE5a is the rarest of the breed. I > have also heard that it is a difficult build. There was an old article on > scratchbuilding an LVG C.VI by Ray in Finescale Modeler, where he used the > basic Woodman techniques. The photo of the Author showed him working on the > SE5a. These kits were multimedia and came with special tools plastic > castings etc. You can sometimes see Hasegawa 1/8 Vickers or Spandau guns > for sale on Ebay. I think that these were issued separately at one time. > Squadron has the Camel & the Tripe from time to time. I think that these > are not re-issues but "found stock". They are expensive $699 (US) or more. > You almost never see the SE5a. I do not recall what the original list price > was but I recall seeing them at $599 or so. I think you could get a > discount when they were available, but not now. > > Regards, > John Cyg. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hans Trauner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:01 PM > Subject: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a > > > Shane wrote: > > > > > I have the 1/16 Albatros they did... > > > > No! Really? April 1st is still a few hours away... > > Did they really make a 1/16 scale Albatros WW 1 fighter?? > > I HAVE TO KNOW THAT! I am addicted to Albatrose ! Help me! > > > > Hans > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:33:28 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <000d01c0ba2a$3a2267e0$38434c0c@tom> If you would like, I can find the company name , address, etc. for you. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a > > > Hi Hans- > > I have a 1/16 alb kit, made by model airways, thought this would help the > > alb.addiction > > Tom > > Thanks for the info. I never realised this kit, maybe it was not offered in > europe. > > Hans > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:41:42 -0500 From: "cameron rile" To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Belgian N11 dope? was [RE: nieuport IV yellow dope] Message-ID: <876B7946F0625D115A950005B80A9E19@cameron.prontomail.com> Matt wrote; >Is that using the Warbirds decals? Yep on an Eastern Express chassis. Mike wrote; >CDL is probably more correct for a Belgian N.11 >The last Nieuports that would have had the 'yelow' >appear to have been Nieuport 10's. How does French CDL differ in tonality to British CDL? cam AFC - http://members.nbci.com/pointcook/ ________________________________________ Get your email at http://www.prontomail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:43:14 -0600 From: Ernest Thomas To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: The price of Datafiles Message-ID: <3AC64F72.3356DD09@bellsouth.net> NodalPoint@aol.com wrote: > > I'm trying to build a decent WWI avaiation reference library and am starting > to get a few datafiles. I just can't seem to find them for what I would > consider reasonable prices. Interesting. I talked myself into getting internet access just so I wouldn't have to spend a lot of money building a WWI reference library. And it's been a worthwhile investment too. My first day out surfing, I found this list, which is a great substitute for a library. Only on very rare occassions to I ask a question that doesn't get answered right here. > > How much are people paying for Datafiles that are out of print? $25 seems to > be the going rate at the online book dealers that carry them. However, I do love Datafiles and do buy them on a semi regular basis. My favorite source is; www.aeroplanebooks.com Haven't bought any OOP files yet, but I do love their service. Hth.... E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:48:01 +0200 From: "Hans Trauner" To: Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <009001c0ba2c$424ddba0$11a372d4@FRITZweb> Yes, please! Great. Go ahead. Thank you! Hans ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:53:33 -0600 From: "Mark Shannon" To: "WWI Group" Subject: Catagory at Austin Model Show Message-ID: <009101c0ba35$6a710a40$90e0fea9@shark> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C0BA03.1F597B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to start getting the word out. I have decided to sponsor a = prize catagory at the Austin Model Show coming up at the end of the = summer. The catagory is "Best WWI subject" (all catagories) Sponsore by "Members of the WWI Modeling List, www.wwi-models.org" In this case the prize costs fifty dollars to sponsor, so I thought it = would be a good gift to the hobby and the list. .Mark. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C0BA03.1F597B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just wanted to start getting the word out.  I = have=20 decided to sponsor a prize catagory at the Austin Model Show coming up = at the=20 end of the summer.
 
The catagory is "Best WWI subject" (all=20 catagories)
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In this case the prize costs fifty dollars to = sponsor, so I=20 thought it would be a good gift to the hobby and the list.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C0BA03.1F597B00-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:53:27 +0000 From: pugs99@att.net To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Questions regarding Datafile Special:Fokker D-VII Anthology 1 Message-ID: <20010331225329.FNSU21649.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hi All, Thanks to everyone who answered on this question. I will be ordering the books this weekend! As I suspected, these all sound like "gotta haves". Regards, John Impenna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:09:00 +0200 From: "aa8." To: Subject: Re: Hey Anglo-Saxons Message-ID: <003901c0ba26$ebaed100$e4183c3e@tinypc> Ernest the name of the shop is 'Comet Miniatures/TJ Models' run and owned by one Tony James. Last time I was there the old kits were a couple of doorways down from the main shop which is mainly Sci-Fi. All the old stuff used to be in the basement of the main shop but as I said it had moved last time I went there. The address is Lavender hill no 561--I think. Get the train to Clapham junction and walk. Buy an A-Z. The area is safe enough during daylight hours. Before I went there I would ring and ask for what I was after. I haven't got the number but ring 192 and ask directories. Be prepared to pay--Uncle Tony isn't in the charity business!!! Hannants and the RAF Museum are close together in North West London (opposite end of town to TJ) get the Northern Line Tube--(Subway to you colonial types) to Colindale. Hannants is situated in the station building. Turn right out of main entrance and you are there. RAF Museum is five minutes walk and signposted. Again a perfectly safe area. I would allow myself a good half day for Hendon and a couple of hours to peruse Hannants. There is a tidy enough little cafe next door to Hannants owned by a Turkish family where you can pick up lunch and a cup of tea. There is also a restaurant at the museum--a little overpriced I always think. My advise would be make for Hendon/Hannants and ring TJ--only if there is something you really want go there as you will waste much time travelling otherwise. I hope some of the above is worthwhile. There is plenty of OT stuff at the RAF Museum. regards Andy Jones. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest Thomas" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 11:27 PM Subject: Hey Anglo-Saxons > My friend misplaced the info we had already supplied him back in Feb. > What's the name of the OOP plastics peddler who's shop is near Clapham > Junction? Also, It sounds like he's only got about one day for doing OT > stuff. What would be the best way for him to make Hannants, RAF Hendon, > and this OOP guy in one day? > Tia, > E. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:30:57 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Hayes To: wwi@wwi-models.org Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <20010331233057.92998.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> You don't want to buy them from Squadron. When they have them, they're nearly $1000! Todd --- John & Allison Cyganowski wrote: > I think the 1/16 Albatros D.Va was not made by > Hasegawa, but by Model > Airways. When I last saw it it was ~$119 (US). I > have seen a built up > example that was beautiful. However there have been > some complaints > regarding fit. Another moan was over the fact that a > spinner & metal cowl > were not supplied. I think that there is nothing > here that any of us > could't handle. Ray Rimell did an extensive review > of this kit in Windsock > Vol. 14, No. 6, Nov/Dec 1998. > > Hasegawa made 4 Museum Quality kits that I am aware > of. They made a Wright > Flyer (I am not sure of the scale). They made the > following WWI birds; > > 1/8 Fokker Triplane > 1/8 Sopwith Camel > 1/8 SE5a > > These kits are gorgeous. I have seen the Tripe & the > Camel built up. I seem > to recall seeing the SE5a in a hobbyshop high up on > a pegboard. I have seen > it unbuilt up close only once, in a certain WWI > shrine in Toronto. > Beautiful. I am not sure but my impression is that > these kits date from the > early to mid Eighties or so. By far the SE5a is the > rarest of the breed. I > have also heard that it is a difficult build. There > was an old article on > scratchbuilding an LVG C.VI by Ray in Finescale > Modeler, where he used the > basic Woodman techniques. The photo of the Author > showed him working on the > SE5a. These kits were multimedia and came with > special tools plastic > castings etc. You can sometimes see Hasegawa 1/8 > Vickers or Spandau guns > for sale on Ebay. I think that these were issued > separately at one time. > Squadron has the Camel & the Tripe from time to > time. I think that these > are not re-issues but "found stock". They are > expensive $699 (US) or more. > You almost never see the SE5a. I do not recall what > the original list price > was but I recall seeing them at $599 or so. I think > you could get a > discount when they were available, but not now. > > Regards, > John Cyg. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hans Trauner > To: Multiple recipients of list > Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:01 PM > Subject: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a > > > > Shane wrote: > > > > > I have the 1/16 Albatros they did... > > > > No! Really? April 1st is still a few hours away... > > Did they really make a 1/16 scale Albatros WW 1 > fighter?? > > I HAVE TO KNOW THAT! I am addicted to Albatrose ! > Help me! > > > > Hans > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:53:31 -0500 From: "TOM PLESHA" To: Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a Message-ID: <000d01c0ba3d$caf1f5c0$2b424c0c@tom> Hi Hans- The address is: Model Expo, Inc. P.O. Box 229140 Hollywood, Florida 33022 U.S.A. phone: 800-222-3876 fax: 800-742-7171 The kit is: Albatros D.VA 1/16 TH Scale Hope this helps Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Trauner" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Help! ALBATROS??? was Re: 1/8 Hasegawa SE5a > > Yes, please! Great. Go ahead. > > Thank you! > Hans > > ------------------------------ End of WWI Digest 3237 **********************